Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Bryan Kohberger’s parents called to testify in front of grand jury

EYEWITNESS NEWS (WBRE/WYOU) — Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify before a grand jury in Pennsylvania in the case of Dana Smithers, a woman who was missing and found dead in…
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Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify before a grand jury in Pennsylvania in the case of Dana Smithers, a woman who was missing and found dead in Monroe County.

Eyewitness News has learned Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify in front of a grand jury in the case of Smithers, 45, who went missing in May of 2022.

A source close to the case says Kohberger has a solid alibi and is likely not connected to Smither’s disappearance, but the grand jury has not concluded their proceedings and the investigation is ongoing.

Smithers went missing in May of 2022 and her remains were recovered earlier this month in a wooded area in Stroudsburg.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
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Bryan Kohberger’s parents called to testify in front of grand jury

EYEWITNESS NEWS (WBRE/WYOU) — Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify before a grand jury in Pennsylvania in the case of Dana Smithers, a woman who was missing and found dead in…
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Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify before a grand jury in Pennsylvania in the case of Dana Smithers, a woman who was missing and found dead in Monroe County.

Eyewitness News has learned Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify in front of a grand jury in the case of Smithers, 45, who went missing in May of 2022.

A source close to the case says Kohberger has a solid alibi and is likely not connected to Smither’s disappearance, but the grand jury has not concluded their proceedings and the investigation is ongoing.

Smithers went missing in May of 2022 and her remains were recovered earlier this month in a wooded area in Stroudsburg.
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Any idea how she died?
 
It;s likely to be destruction of evidence or some such isn't it? What else could it be?

Not sure what to think of Kaylee's family's filing. if they have a claim within the statute of limitations they can file anyhow so why make some filing announcement? From all we have seen, all the LE agencies did an outstanding job on this case and had an arrest and a LOT OF INFO in weeks. I mean maybe they know something we don't or feel something happened prior where their daughter wasn't protected or something, hard to say. I find it odd and I can't help but think it is a bit insulting to the court and agencies seeking justice for them UNLESS there is something we are unaware of that they know.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
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Bryan Kohberger’s parents called to testify in front of grand jury

EYEWITNESS NEWS (WBRE/WYOU) — Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify before a grand jury in Pennsylvania in the case of Dana Smithers, a woman who was missing and found dead in…
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Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify before a grand jury in Pennsylvania in the case of Dana Smithers, a woman who was missing and found dead in Monroe County.

Eyewitness News has learned Bryan Kohberger’s parents have been called to testify in front of a grand jury in the case of Smithers, 45, who went missing in May of 2022.

A source close to the case says Kohberger has a solid alibi and is likely not connected to Smither’s disappearance, but the grand jury has not concluded their proceedings and the investigation is ongoing.

Smithers went missing in May of 2022 and her remains were recovered earlier this month in a wooded area in Stroudsburg.
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Oh boy I should have read ahead before posting.

His alibi isn't perfect or too solid or WHY would they have a GJ proceeding and his parents testifying...? Maybe that alibi is provided by a parent? Interesting...
 
Yeah the LE agencies have been very busy in a short period of time, with this GJ in PA now too. I'd say they seem to be doing a stellar job. And now the defense doesn't get a prelim in ID.
 
ASSUMING his parents are innocent of helping him (no idea), just LOOK what he has done to their lives. I gather money is an issue for the family and here they are having to have a lawyer, trying to quash the subpoenas (didn't work) and testify in front of a GJ. Sister(s) lost job(s). But who knows, this kind of creep may enjoy the trouble he has brought on his family as well...
 
This said basically what I wondered. If he has such an iron clad alibi then why a grand jury and why his parents, etc., etc. And yeah that she was just recently found...

 
Well there seems to now be reason or suspicion at least to lend more credence to the serial killer thing...
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Cause and manner are pending. They just recently found her.

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Monroe County coroner calls in extra help to identify missing Stroudsburg woman's remains

'We're working with limited visible attributes that would identify a person, so we have to go with things like dental records, and that is what we did in this case.'
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Boy something is up here. She was found in early May and this fast we have a grand jury that involves Kohberger's parents... SOMETHING connected him on finding her is all I can guess and the alibi is probably being questioned.

Here is another thing. IF he had an alibi it means HE was suspected or questioned or in other words, was seen with her, knew her, something. No?
 
GrandmaBear said:
Well there seems to now be reason or suspicion at least to lend more credence to the serial killer thing...

Boy something is up here. She was found in early May and this fast we have a grand jury that involves Kohberger's parents... SOMETHING connected him on finding her is all I can guess and the alibi is probably being questioned.

Here is another thing. IF he had an alibi it means HE was suspected or questioned or in other words, was seen with her, knew her, something. No?
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Maybe something was discovered when they were doing a deep dive into his phone records??
 
Guess Who said:
Maybe something was discovered when they were doing a deep dive into his phone records??
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Yeah I think it is likely something like that or maybe even talking further to his family after the ID case and something came up on the older one, combined with phone records or some such... The ID case allowed warrants with cause and then that probably opened the door to looking into him for previous crimes...? Back at the time they likely couldn't if he had such a solid alibi...

I also can't help but wonder if one or both parents didn't cover for him with an alibi and now with new deaths, his sister believing he did them, etc., both pressure and facing what their son is maybe had someone coming clean or perhaps not but LE sees a pattern, did one or both try to help him in this case...

I'm NOT saying one or both parents did anything but it was odd his father went to ID to drive back with him and it was also odd they didn't head in a direction to come directly back. The sister was putting the pieces together but supposedly dad in denial but not so sure... I mean they were pulled over twice on the way back too... Dad truly had no clue or even wondered possibly...?

OR they could just be clueless parents, totally. But parents who were called in on this PA case.... WHY unless they know something?

The thing is he must have been looked at back at the time of her disappearance right? That's why they know of his alibi? So what connection was there that they looked at him? Had he been with her that night? Bothered her prior? WHAT do his parents have to do with any of it? And BOTH parents.
 
This woman wasn't killed by knife. Kohberger also put up a questionnaire, IIRC about how someone would feel after committing a murder? If he had already committed one, why would he do that? I can see some reasons, but it seems he hadn't murdered anyone yet when he wrote it.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
This woman wasn't killed by knife. Kohberger also put up a questionnaire, IIRC about how someone would feel after committing a murder? If he had already committed one, why would he do that? I can see some reasons, but it seems he hadn't murdered anyone yet when he wrote it.
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How do you know she wasn't killed by a knife? That has not been released. Her remains were skeletal and certainly couldn't be determined immediately.

I'm not saying he did it. But even if she wasn't killed by a knife, that does not rule anyone out... Nor does putting out his little survey. Maybe he wanted to see if others felt the same way he did.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
How do you know she wasn't killed by a knife? That has not been released. Her remains were skeletal and certainly couldn't be determined immediately.

I'm not saying he did it. But even if she wasn't killed by a knife, that does not rule anyone out... Nor does putting out his little survey. Maybe he wanted to see if others felt the same way he did.
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When killed by a knife the bones of a person usually show some scraping. You're right, I don't know, but it seems the evidence doesn't point in that direction. It sounds to me like she may have been killed in a way that is hard to figure out with a year's worth of decomposition. You're right, it's just an assumption on my part.
 
If I understand the purpose of a grand jury correctly, prosecutors believe they have some level of evidence, and the jury must determine if there is enough evidence to bring charges / issue an indictment.

A grand jury would not be convened without some level of prior investigation and some level of potential evidence. They're not just going to bring them together to say "this guy lived near the area and was arrested for other murders". They have to have something more. Then the grand jury would decide if what they have amounts to charges, or if it's actually just a bunch of nothing or completely circumstantial.

There is also a slight possibility that his parents are witnesses to some other aspect of the crime and it has nothing to do with him (though unlikely).
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
If I understand the purpose of a grand jury correctly, prosecutors believe they have some level of evidence, and the jury must determine if there is enough evidence to bring charges / issue an indictment.

A grand jury would not be convened without some level of prior investigation and some level of potential evidence. They're not just going to bring them together to say "this guy lived near the area and was arrested for other murders". They have to have something more. Then the grand jury would decide if what they have amounts to charges, or if it's actually just a bunch of nothing or completely circumstantial.

There is also a slight possibility that his parents are witnesses to some other aspect of the crime and it has nothing to do with him (though unlikely).
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It's possible that Bryan was a friend of the guy they suspect killed the woman. They want more information on that before they ask to depose him.
 
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