WY GABBY PETITO: Missing from Grand Teton National Park, WY - 25 August 2021 - Age 22 *Found Deceased*

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  • Gabby Petito was reported missing after she didn't return from a road trip with her fiancé.
  • The police opened an investigation after her mother filed a missing-person report on Saturday.
  • A news report said Petito's fiancé was not cooperating with authorities and had hired a lawyer.



Grand Teton National Park

Gabby Petito's family last heard from her when she arrived at Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming on August 25, her mother said. littleting/Shutterstock
  • Gabby Petito was reported missing after she didn't return from a road trip with her fiancé.
  • The police opened an investigation after her mother filed a missing-person report on Saturday.
  • A news report said Petito's fiancé was not cooperating with authorities and had hired a lawyer.
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A 22-year-old New York woman who documented her cross-country van road trip on social media was reported missing by her mother on Saturday after her fiancé returned to their home in Florida without her, reports said.

Gabby Petito and her fiancé, Brian Laundrie, embarked on their road trip on July 2 from Blue Point, New York, Newsday reported.
The two were living in a 2012 Ford Transit van and documenting their travels on Instagram and YouTube, often using the hashtag #vanlife.
Petito was last seen checking out of a hotel with Laundrie on August 24. She last spoke to her family on the phone the next day, telling them she had arrived at Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming, her mother, Nicole Schmidt, said.

Her mother told reporters on Monday that she FaceTimed with Petito around August 23 or 24.
Petito's most recent Instagram post was shared on August 25.

Schmidt told Fox News on Sunday that she was unsure whether her daughter had left Grand Teton. She said she exchanged texts with Petito's number twice after August 25.
"I did receive a text from her on the 27th and the 30th, but I don't know if it was technically her or not, because it was just a text," Schmidt said. "I didn't verbally speak to her."
Laundrie eventually returned to the couple's home in North Port, Florida, without Petito, though it was not clear when he arrived, the Daily Mail reported.
The police in New York's Suffolk County said Schmidt filed a missing-person report on Saturday.

"Petito, 22, of Blue Point, is described as a white female, approximately 5 feet 5 inches tall and 110 pounds," the press release said. "She has blonde hair and blue eyes, and several tattoos, including one on her finger and one on her forearm that reads 'let it be.'"

The press release said authorities had recovered the couple's van during their investigation.
Petito and Laundrie had been living in North Port together for two years before they set out on their road trip, the Daily Mail said. Petito announced their engagement on Instagram in July 2020.

(more at link)

She could be anywhere as they were traveling cross-country. I put the location as the last place her family could verify that she was still in communication.


MEDIA - GABBY PETITO: Missing from Grand Teton National Park, WY since 25 August 2021 - Age 22
 
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When they released what was it two body cam videos of two officers and hold the third, they of course are going to have the entire public thinking, as we do, there is something pretty significant on that female park ranger's video... I"m not surprised people are back to that...

It has been so full fledged hunting for Brian on the Florida end of this tragic case, that news and SM focused on the Laundrie end of things and kind of quit on the Wyoming end...

There are a lot of answers yet that need to come in all parts of this case(s).
 

Brian Laundrie's parents face potential legal consequences: Mark Geragos​

Brian Laundrie's family could face legal consequences under certain circumstances now that authorities have discovered the deceased 23-year-old's remains, famed criminal defense lawyer Mark Geragos said.

The FBI on Thursday confirmed remains recovered from the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park in North Port, Florida were indeed Laundrie's, after comparing dental records.

"Based on what we know so far… the only exposure, potential liability, would be either after the federal warrant was issued or if there was some assistance given while he was a fugitive," Geragos told Fox News, meaning Laundrie's parents would likely only be accused of a crime for actions committed after the U.S. District Court of Wyoming issued a federal arrest warrant for their son.

 
I just don't like defense attorneys in most cases I guess. I hear the name Geragos and the first thing that comes to mind is Scott Peterson.

You know the saying “There is no coincidence when it comes to murder?”

Geragos said because the parents found the evidence first, it may open the door to LE looking into the parents actions.

JMHO
fran
 
LE had cameras on Laundrie’ house.


Wow, lots of interesting tweets up there. They had cameras up before Brian went missing? And yet he ended up at the reserve dead? And they dispute Bertolino's timeline of when he told police Brian went missing...

I need to get back to following some Tweets I guess. Never did a lot of it but I did during the Patrick Frazee case when it was basically the only way to follow the trial.
 
That is very interesting... Yet Entin says North Port[?] says they think the parents finding the items was coincidence...

I think sometimes we get so righteously indignant, and for good cause, that we develop confirmation bias.

The "protesters" are a good example. They needed someone to bear the brunt of their perceived pain, or anger. Brian wasn't there so they turned their attention to his parents.

Brian did this. Brian killed Gabby. Brian chose to take off. Brian's actions are the reason he is dead, whatever the manner.

Just my opinion.
 
I think sometimes we get so righteously indignant, and for good cause, that we develop confirmation bias.

The "protesters" are a good example. They needed someone to bear the brunt of their perceived pain, or anger. Brian wasn't there so they turned their attention to his parents.

Brian did this. Brian killed Gabby. Brian chose to take off. Brian's actions are the reason he is dead, whatever the manner.

Just my opinion.
I agree. Followed enough cases over time and so many cases that I recognize the emotions (even in myself) and what is almost a "path" throughout the "average" case... I try like heck to never be 100 percent on anything but I do as a case goes on weigh one way or another but I try to change that as info is learned and not "make" it fit my belief or hope I try to.

First stage I would say by most is outrage someone could do such a thing, an attempt to get a sense of who one thinks did it and who the victim was.... Parents? Spouse? Stranger (the perp)? Can we believe the family? Can we believe the neighbor? Then a rush to find out all one can (some more this way than others like some FB sites and other SM) looking up their profiles, the family, etc... and making judgments based on what they find... I think most have a sincere concern and care for the victim and what happened.... At first anyhow... Most people...

But then some get overboard or very carried away and I can get wrapped up somewhat in the early phase but I hit a point where it becomes too dirty and too out there usually. This case is sure an example out there on even mainstream media, etc. and how far they have taken some things... And if things seem to be screwed up by LE questions come in and people even rightfully wonder what is going on and is something not kosher... Happens in many cases when LE keeps details to themselves. And etc., etc.

Then for me at least, I hit a point of where the most far out there theories or attacks start seeming so ridiculous and some people take it so far... And it starts to feel wrong to even want to hear some of the flat out "juicy" speculation... And in this case, I was no fan of the Laundries, I still don't like a lot about the case and things that went on but their son now we can "probably" assume is dead... Protestors in the beginning maybe felt they were defending the Petito family or Gabby and I could even understand it to a point EARLY ON but not any longer...

And honestly, how many here thought a thousand times like I did, duh, protestors and media go home and away from the Laundries...? Duh, if they are helping Brian let them think no one is watching any longer and maybe he will try to sneak home or make contact or they will try???? I thought that repeatedly. I never wanted to say it online as gee, why alert the family who probably knew LE would be watching anyhow but who knows, maybe if things got quiet, he would move or they would make a move... Now we know they had cameras up probably in the very event that the Laundries tried to help their son or he reach them but protestors I am sure stopped that... Well, not really, now that we know he was likely dead and probably not being helped but if he was not at that point, they HELPED nothing and they would have HINDERED IT. How does LE do their job when supposedly well meaning people are making it so the people they are watching know they better not dare make a move... Because the protesters are always there??!!! And media was renting space! I mean as it continued well past any point of it ever dying down, I kept thinking how dimwitted are some people...? Again, I get the outrage at the outset but it was not long in when I caught something of the drone watching the parents in the back yard when all the bunker stuff started on a live that I hit a point of total disgust... I clicked out of that video and refused to watch any more of it or read the comments. They were downright nasty.

I am not wording this right at all, I guess just voicing frustration, but I do know in myself that there seems to be a cycle in most cases... Starts with outrage, finding out more, then I wind down a bit... We wait for answers...

Some of these cases though people are going so overboard, Petito is now a well known example... The Summer Wells case... Oh boy... The little black boys, Orson and Orrin (in that case they were all at the grandparents' house and evidence of burning garbage meant something, etc., walking the dogs meant something, having the dogs meant something (long after the fact, I am sure they just kept evidence in their back yard months after)... They couldn't find the parents easily so they focused on the grandparents... Protestors. Day after day. I got sickened in that one too.

Sorry this is not really responding to your post, I started to and then went off on my own tangent. I guess what I mean is I reach a line... Logic rules with me but when an investigation seems odd or whatever, I can start to wonder a lot of things like anyone but my goodness, there are people talking about how you can order human bones off the internet and the parents planted them and people saying the Laundries shot their own son, etc. SMDH. I could go on. Plastic surgery, dental plates, on and on... People can't let go of it and that's where this does respond, they get something in there head and then when things refute it they can't let it go... They have to make it fit even if they have to resort to the most ridiculous outlandish things... I can go down a road for awhile, to a point, but there just is a point where something kicks in...

There have been some very odd things in this case admittedly which did not help but all I need yet is to know there is actually a jaw bone with teeth just to be sure, not separate... DNA which we will have to wait for. What all the partial remains are and if they all match up with DNA etc... I, like most, do admit I find it very odd the parents found items and on the day they did find them and LE too after all of the searching prior, and the areas searched first versus others, etc., but still, as to it being Brian, all I need is just the follow up with the DNA and knowing it is not just a tooth or two and some scattered bones that may not match (DNA needed again) and I am fine with believing this is Brian. That will close out that part of this for me, although it does not close out Gabby's murder.

I think most likely and I have said it before boyfriend snaps and kills girlfriend, boyfriend panics and even though she was a victim of DV he realizes she is gone and he did it and even an abuser misses the victim (sick but I think true quite often). He scrambles, he panics. He covers up or tries to. He runs home. It all starts coming down. His world is shattered (his own fault). He is grieving. He leaves and he kills himself. I truly believe this is most likely the simple story here.

But the stuff that went on around it and even the other murder of the two women, the body cams from LE about the other domestic incident, what seemed like screw ups by Florida police.... Dog coming in and John Walsh. And yes, the Laundries lawyering up and lawyering up Brian played in and caused a LOT of questions. I had them too. I still have many.

In a total 180 from all I just said and in another direction, I am pretty sure, not 100 percent that Bertolino should not have been representing the Laundries AND Brian... Maybe things have changed or states are different but I'm pretty sure it is at least highly advised against if not unethical. If Brian was a minor that would be different but he wasn't...

Apologies to all for longwindedness. :(
 

Autopsy of Brian Laundrie: No cause, manner of death able to be determined​


TAMPA, Fla. - The attorney for Brian Laundrie's parents says an autopsy on their son's remains, which were described as "bones" by North Port police, did not reveal a cause or manner of his death.

Laundrie's autopsy was completed Friday and his remains will be sent to an anthropologist for further examination, according to reporting from FOX 5's Jodi Goldberg.


 

Autopsy of Brian Laundrie: No cause, manner of death able to be determined​


TAMPA, Fla. - The attorney for Brian Laundrie's parents says an autopsy on their son's remains, which were described as "bones" by North Port police, did not reveal a cause or manner of his death.

Laundrie's autopsy was completed Friday and his remains will be sent to an anthropologist for further examination, according to reporting from FOX 5's Jodi Goldberg.


Not liking that. It seems awful quick... Does that indicate I wonder that they don't have "much"...?

Of course it does come from Bertolino... And they are being sent to an anthropologist...
 

Autopsy of Brian Laundrie: No cause, manner of death able to be determined​


TAMPA, Fla. - The attorney for Brian Laundrie's parents says an autopsy on their son's remains, which were described as "bones" by North Port police, did not reveal a cause or manner of his death.

Laundrie's autopsy was completed Friday and his remains will be sent to an anthropologist for further examination, according to reporting from FOX 5's Jodi Goldberg.


no tox screen ran? Im sure there was some tissue left. He wasn't there that long.
 
no tox screen ran? Im sure there was some tissue left. He wasn't there that long.
I suspect they are just talking about the physical autopsy when completed that fast. And it did come from Bertolino... But I doubt the way they talk there is much for organ samples and things like that...

People are back and forth on what would be left. Some say there would be nothing but bone left and others say in no way would a body be that far gone in 30 days.

All I know is if there is no cause of death for him and there are not "adequate" remains that were tested and positive for Brian, I doubt this case will ever be put to "bed"...
 
no tox screen ran? Im sure there was some tissue left. He wasn't there that long.

I personally think he could have been in the type of environment that could have reduced him to a pile of bones.

He was gone for what, almost a month? No idea when he died, though.

He was in an environment of:

Water
Heat
Alligators
Smaller animals
Birds
Insects

Perfect storm for a body.
 
That is what a lot of people think, with the elements there would be nothing left... I don't know... I agree in time that would be the case... Not sure how much time though... And as you say, it depends on how long he was dead...

I fail to understand the appeal of anyone even wanting to go to a reserve like this with such conditions... I get trying to preserve nature and the ecological bit but I don't get wanting to hike in such areas, camp there, etc. Snakes, gators, humidity, water, etc...
 
I personally think he could have been in the type of environment that could have reduced him to a pile of bones.

He was gone for what, almost a month? No idea when he died, though.

He was in an environment of:

Water
Heat
Alligators
Smaller animals
Birds
Insects

Perfect storm for a body.
It wasn't raining when he went into the park and the area where they found the remains couldn't have been under water at that time or he couldn't have even sat down. He took the notebook and we'll never know if that was to continue writing in it or keep what he had written already from prying eyes. IF he stayed where he was found, he was probably deceased shortly before it started raining and the area filled up. A "normal" person would have gone to higher ground when it began to rain and there's been no mention of him having a tent with him. His body was underwater (or so it's said) so I wouldn't think animals would wade through waist deep water to get a body so IMO, his body just decomposed where it was and wasn't scattered or eaten by critters. IMO the heat and water and bacteria worked fast. I do believe he murdered himself as opposed to being struck by lightening or killed by snake bite or alligator attack. His parents told LE they were afraid he would hurt himself so it seems the possibility was already there that he didn't plan on ever coming back.

All of this is just me thinking out loud. I do agree with you that the environment was a big factor in what remained.
 

EXCLUSIVE: Gabby Petito's family fear discovery of Brian Laundrie's body in Florida swamp means they'll never find out why she was murdered​

  • Family friend says Petitos are stricken at news Brian Laundrie is dead
  • They now fear they'll never discover why Gabby was killed
  • FBI confirmed Thursday body found in Florida swap Wednesday is Laundrie
  • Gabby was found dead in Wyoming last month, and had been strangled


I would feel the same way they do. At the same time, even when the killer lives, they usually don’t tell anybody why they did it.
 
I think sometimes we get so righteously indignant, and for good cause, that we develop confirmation bias.

The "protesters" are a good example. They needed someone to bear the brunt of their perceived pain, or anger. Brian wasn't there so they turned their attention to his parents.

Brian did this. Brian killed Gabby. Brian chose to take off. Brian's actions are the reason he is dead, whatever the manner.

Just my opinion.
That’s how I see it, too. I think the parents could’ve handled it a lot better and their son might still be alive, but I think that they have suffered the ultimate price by losing their son. Personally, I think they should be left alone now.
 
I would feel the same way they do. At the same time, even when the killer lives, they usually don’t tell anybody why they did it.
I'm pretty sure the answer as to "why" is that he just plain lost it for whatever reason. I think I might be better off not knowing the exact reason. If I found out exactly how petty it might have been, it would just make me even more angry.
 

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