MO JOHN FORSYTH: Missing from Cassville, MO - 21 May 2023 - Age 49 *Found Deceased*

Brother: Authorities told family that body of missing Missouri ER doctor was found in Arkansas

The brother of a Missouri ER doctor who has been missing for more than a week says that his body has been found in Arkansas. Dr. John Forsyth was last heard from in text messages around 7 a.m. May 21. His brother, Richard Forsyth, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that authorities called the...

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Authorities search for Missouri doctor who has been missing more than a week​

Authorities in a small Missouri town are searching for an emergency room physician a week-and-a-half after his mysterious disappearance.

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was last heard from May 21. Police said he was reported missing when he failed to show up for work that day at Mercy Hospital in Cassville, a town of 3,100 residents deep in the Missouri Ozarks.

Forsyth’s black Infiniti was found in a remote area near an aquatic park in Cassville. The car was unlocked with his wallet, two phones and a laptop inside.

Several law enforcement agencies, including the Missouri State Highway Patrol, have joined in the search using people, dogs and drones. Forsyth’s family set up a Facebook page seeking information.

Richard Forsyth said his brother had been at the Cassville hospital for about 15 years. He described John Forsyth as a doting father who became engaged to his girlfriend just a couple of days before he disappeared.

 

[Regina]

You wouldn't hide a vehicle there at a city park with a swimming pool and it's days away from Memorial Day weekend, especially close to the dumpster. That would be one of the last places to hide anything at that time.

Well of course, it wouldn't have been hidden for long but it isn't as though it's out in the parking lot of the park, it was in a fenced, waste disposal area at the back end of the property.

 

[Guess Who]

Well of course, it wouldn't have been hidden for long but it isn't as though it's out in the parking lot of the park, it was in a fenced, waste disposal area at the back end of the property.

if his plan was to hide it, there are thousands more better places to do so that he would definitely have known of. That would be one of the busiest places that time of year.

My theory is that he was meeting someone, walked over to their vehicle and possibly either got in to talk/confrontation or for a transaction of some type or to ride with them somewhere or he got pulled into it. I don't think he meant to be apart from his vehicle for long with the way it was left and possibly didn't even think it would be out of his signt.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Like everything one can think either way on this. He or someone could have known there was a camera or they may not have. They may have wanted him seen leaving of his own accord under no duress or at the direction or someone else or he may have wanted that. On the other hand, they may have not known of a camera and thought nothing would show at all and his car would simply eventually be found there with no other answers...

EVERYTHING in this case is like that it seems.

I generally have an opinion but it is difficult to rule out much in this one.

Brother remains on my radar BUT that is largely because no one else has been weird or spoken or inserted themselves. There could be an ex gf who now dates a hitman but how would we know? There could be an ex bf of a gf that was irate John had a child with his gf, how would we know. There could be someone at the hospital who had it in for him, how would we know? It could relate to Bitcoin but how would we know?

I do know the brother doesn't hit right. I do know the Bitcoin business looks like a shady thing that they were taking other people's money for which apparently got "lost" and they were being investigated at one point and possibly still... Because of that, neither John nor Richard seem like moral above board people to me. That is all I know.

And he liked to make babies with various people or at least liked to do the act that made babies with a variety of partners. Sorry but seems to be the case.

Oh and we know one other fact, allegedly he is dead and we know where he was found but EVEN that now is allegedly per his BROTHER with the box of rocks stuff, etc... ANd no body ID by family...

 

[Guess Who]

Like everything one can think either way on this. He or someone could have known there was a camera or they may not have. They may have wanted him seen leaving of his own accord under no duress or at the direction or someone else or he may have wanted that. On the other hand, they may have not known of a camera and thought nothing would show at all and his car would simply eventually be found there with no other answers...

EVERYTHING in this case is like that it seems.

I generally have an opinion but it is difficult to rule out much in this one.

Brother remains on my radar BUT that is largely because no one else has been weird or spoken or inserted themselves. There could be an ex gf who now dates a hitman but how would we know? There could be an ex bf of a gf that was irate John had a child with his gf, how would we know. There could be someone at the hospital who had it in for him, how would we know? It could relate to Bitcoin but how would we know?

I do know the brother doesn't hit right. I do know the Bitcoin business looks like a shady thing that they were taking other people's money for which apparently got "lost" and they were being investigated at one point and possibly still... Because of that, neither John nor Richard seem like moral above board people to me. That is all I know.

And he liked to make babies with various people or at least liked to do the act that made babies with a variety of partners. Sorry but seems to be the case.

Oh and we know one other fact, allegedly he is dead and we know where he was found but EVEN that now is allegedly per his BROTHER with the box of rocks stuff, etc... ANd no body ID by family...

All I know is suicide is the last on my list of possibilities, but not off the list. A LOT of theories further up with none any higher than the other and it will probably end up being something totally different

 

[GrandmaBear]

All I know is suicide is the last on my list of possibilities, but not off the list. A LOT of theories further up with none any higher than the other and it will probably end up being something totally different

This "case" is irritating me. It is probably my mood in general with everything but still, it is an irritating case.

I was where suicide was OFF my list and the last thing I thought but am starting to feel it makes the MOST sense BUT cops put a screw in that as did the fact it is so far away from where he was last seen and his car is elsewhere.

EVERYTHING even with the statement I just made re suicide brings me back to the brother. HE is the one of saying he put him in control and said this and that and HONESTY HE is the one sending us and likely hoping to send LE in various directions... I get away from thinking it is him or trying to but then here again, I end up right back to him.

I should trust my initial instinct I think.

 

[Regina]

if his plan was to hide it, there are thousands more better places to do so that he would definitely have known of. That would be one of the busiest places that time of year.

My theory is that he was meeting someone, walked over to their vehicle and possibly either got in to talk/confrontation or for a transaction of some type or to ride with them somewhere or he got pulled into it. I don't think he meant to be apart from his vehicle for long with the way it was left and possibly didn't even think it would be out of his signt.

I recall info that the pool wasn't yet open but to me, it wouldn't matter if it had been.
Indeed, I fully appreciate your theory, that (needless to say) it'd explain how he ended up where and how he did.

 

[Guess Who]

I recall info that the pool wasn't yet open but to me, it wouldn't matter if it had been.
Indeed, I fully appreciate your theory, that (needless to say) it'd explain how he ended up where and how he did.

It was to open in a few days and they would be getting it ready and doing the cleanup at the park for the holiday weekend, plus it was baseball season and the diamonds are right there. That dumpster would be a busy area with the cleanup and prep for memorial Day festivities held there at that park by itself, then add the baseball diamonds in the evenings.

 

[GrandmaBear]

if his plan was to hide it, there are thousands more better places to do so that he would definitely have known of. That would be one of the busiest places that time of year.

My theory is that he was meeting someone, walked over to their vehicle and possibly either got in to talk/confrontation or for a transaction of some type or to ride with them somewhere or he got pulled into it. I don't think he meant to be apart from his vehicle for long with the way it was left and possibly didn't even think it would be out of his signt.

How is it I go to catch up on threads and miss posts? I missed this one and only found it by backing up from Regina's reply.

I agree. I think he was meeting someone and got out of his vehicle to head to them or theirs or wait for them/stretch his legs. It could have been something nefarious or something not like meeting for lunch, to talk child support, seeing a baby mama/child (he thinks), or dealing drugs or dealing with someone he owed money to or anything, who knows. I don't know the area like you do but you could have hidden your car far better places if that was your intent. Even with what you say of locking, his things were in it and it was not at home and I don't think he intended to leave the things there for hours (IF this was murder).

Irritated as I am and frustrated, we know NOTHING in this case, it is more so than most, I think we need to key in on this part. This is where or near where something happened. HE could have been there to pay someone off, settle something, talk, or even for a light purpose like lunch. I think he he willingly perhaps climbs in the car of another to talk, etc. and can see his vehicle so he isn't concerned. Then all changes, the other person/people have a plan. This could be one person or another in the back seat hidden or nearby even. He is likely not shot in the car but marched to the water after driving there, likely at gun point and there ya go. No real crime scene, etc. Pretty easy, no evidence to speak of and so on. I mean they could try to get data/cam of passing cars in certain areas and so forth or access cell data trying to determine a plan and so forth but other than that I wouldn't say it's the perfect crime but so far there is little here to go on... For us anyhow...

 

[Regina]

I think he was meeting someone and got out of his vehicle to head to them or theirs or wait for them/stretch his legs.

Irritated as I am and frustrated, we know NOTHING in this case, it is more so than most, I think we need to key in on this part. This is where or near where something happened.

For me, it's the circumstances leading up to his disappearance that point to suicide.

 

[Guess Who]

For me, it's the circumstances leading up to his disappearance that point to suicide.

I definitely can't rule that out, but would need a whole lot more info before I am convinced of anything on this one. More info that doesn't come from the brother would be wonderful, but sadly, he's about all we have right now..

 

[GrandmaBear]

For me, it's the circumstances leading up to his disappearance that point to suicide.

I haven't ruled it out but unlike you, in this case, I really don't have reason to rule much at all out, the former kidnap story and who is lying or was lying, how he died, who did it, etc. With all our discussion throughout and more so recently, and that Bitcoin thing and email, even though years ago, shows a side that struck me of the brother. And likely of John.

I would have to say if forced to that the brother remains foremost to me. And where I felt it was NOT suicide, I now wonder BUT cops sure haven't went there or said that and I'd think they would know if it could even be PHYSICALLY possible. Third guess would play into baby mamas and exes and $$ motive, etc. The thing is though we don't know the other people in his life or much about any of that. Not coworkers. Not business partners or employees. Not even what he'd been up to or his real financial state, etc. So the guess of any of us isn't very informed imo. Correct me if I am wrong, but almost all info we use has come from the brother no?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I definitely can't rule that out, but would need a whole lot more info before I am convinced of anything on this one. More info that doesn't come from the brother would be wonderful, but sadly, he's about all we have right now..

Lol I just said about the same before I went onto this next post, yours. LE has shared little. They may well know this couldn't be a suicide OR know it likely is one. Richard is pretty much our source for all and that alone is a big issue.

 

[Regina]

I definitely can't rule that out, but would need a whole lot more info before I am convinced of anything on this one. More info that doesn't come from the brother would be wonderful, but sadly, he's about all we have right now..

Well, obviously, a lot of why I'm of the opinion I am is because I believe the brother and despite that he's refused to even consider that his brother committed suicide, I think a lot of what he's described of his brother's behaviors point that way.
There was an article in which their mother told of about a year prior, John told her that he didn't feel like he'd live very long. She said she asked him what he was talking about and he said "Oh, it's nothing."

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well, obviously, a lot of why I'm of the opinion I am is because I believe the brother and despite that he's refused to even consider that his brother committed suicide, I think a lot of what he's described of his brother's behaviors point that way.
There was an article in which their mother told of about a year prior, John told her that he didn't feel like he'd live very long. She said she asked him what he was talking about and he said "Oh, it's nothing."

I do agree that behaviors talked of sound like he planned to "go away"/suicide type talk, vague maybe but hint at such. But it ALSO all comes from the brother. I don't like that he is our singular source almost for ALL.

Not familiar with the mother's comment but do note you say about a "year" prior John said that to her.

It is the cops who are silent here. Is there a leaning or proof of suicide? If so, maybe it is time to say it appears to be that. If they KNOW it is not, then that would explain why this still sits and goes on and brother's home was searched, etc.

Cop activities would seem to indicate it isn't a suicide.

Brother's statements would and do and have had us all over the place as to what it could be.

His recent interview left me feeling more solid about him and believing him BUT my gut instinct says why is that and why now is he coming across halfway normal and even in that one he threw the box of rocks info into.

We aren't on a jury and so you can believe him but you nor none of us have a legitimate reason to. His email alone to investors was odd as all get out and longer than my longest post which is quite long.

We honestly know nothing which is why, rare for me, I can't light hard on or against anything.

The brother is my leaning but even that doesn't reach 75 percent surety. And I recognize it is only because he has been out there where other people in John's life haven't been plus we can['t hear from John.

They would both be odd ducks in any world I have ever lived in and I've been in many.

 

[Regina]

It is the cops who are silent here. Is there a leaning or proof of suicide? If so, maybe it is time to say it appears to be that. If they KNOW it is not, then that would explain why this still sits and goes on and brother's home was searched, etc.

Cop activities would seem to indicate it isn't a suicide.

My thought about the cops serving the warrant- and using a polygraph- is just that until that was done, their investigation wasn't thorough.
But I think they're stuck; I think they simply don't know how he got from here to there and (apparently) they didn't find the gun and if there's also no evidence of involvement of anyone else, then I understand why they'd be stuck.

 

[GrandmaBear]

My thought about the cops serving the warrant- and using a polygraph- is just that until that was done, their investigation wasn't thorough.
But I think they're stuck; I think they simply don't know how he got from here to there and (apparently) they didn't find the gun and if there's also no evidence of involvement of anyone else, then I understand why they'd be stuck.

I think it would be key to know what depth of water he was found in. Was it near shore, no depth and no flow? If so, one would think if suicide, the gun would be there.

I think it is just as possible evidence shows this is a murder and not suicide but they can't get anywhere yet on that or nail who.

Since there is a distance, it makes the most sense someone else took him there and killed him/dumped him. Because there is no realistic or logical thing I can come up with that doesn't involve a ride at least from another person.

So I get what you are saying and have similar thoughts BUT it makes more sense they believe it to be a murder and that someone else was responsible for John being there/getting there. He was seen on camera outside of his car right? What did he have on him? How dressed? Carrying anything?

 

[Guess Who]

Well, obviously, a lot of why I'm of the opinion I am is because I believe the brother and despite that he's refused to even consider that his brother committed suicide, I think a lot of what he's described of his brother's behaviors point that way.
There was an article in which their mother told of about a year prior, John told her that he didn't feel like he'd live very long. She said she asked him what he was talking about and he said "Oh, it's nothing."

but that could also just as easily include that he was afraid of somebody, too. Plus, if you believe the brother, why wouldn't you believe the kidnapping story and not think he might be scared of somebody?

 

[Guess Who]

My thought about the cops serving the warrant- and using a polygraph- is just that until that was done, their investigation wasn't thorough.
But I think they're stuck; I think they simply don't know how he got from here to there and (apparently) they didn't find the gun and if there's also no evidence of involvement of anyone else, then I understand why they'd be stuck.

I'm pretty sure they aren't as stuck as they have let on. If they are, they are definitely in over their heads.

 

[Regina]

I think it would be key to know what depth of water he was found in. Was it near shore, no depth and no flow? If so, one would think if suicide, the gun would be there.

Yeah, but if they didn't find it, I wouldn't conclude that it's not there.

He was seen on camera outside of his car right? What did he have on him? How dressed? Carrying anything?

My understanding is that he sat in his vehicle for a little while before getting out and walking away.
I don't think it could be made out whether he was carrying anything but he appeared to be wearing the same clothes he was wearing when he left the hospital.

 

[Regina]

but that could also just as easily include that he was afraid of somebody, too. Plus, if you believe the brother, why wouldn't you believe the kidnapping story and not think he might be scared of somebody?

I guess I just don't have the impression that he was scared of anybody.
You know, I do think we can agree that something was brewing with John and that what ever it was, it had been since at least the year prior.