MO JOHN FORSYTH: Missing from Cassville, MO - 21 May 2023 - Age 49 *Found Deceased*

Brother: Authorities told family that body of missing Missouri ER doctor was found in Arkansas

The brother of a Missouri ER doctor who has been missing for more than a week says that his body has been found in Arkansas. Dr. John Forsyth was last heard from in text messages around 7 a.m. May 21. His brother, Richard Forsyth, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that authorities called the...

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Authorities search for Missouri doctor who has been missing more than a week​

Authorities in a small Missouri town are searching for an emergency room physician a week-and-a-half after his mysterious disappearance.

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was last heard from May 21. Police said he was reported missing when he failed to show up for work that day at Mercy Hospital in Cassville, a town of 3,100 residents deep in the Missouri Ozarks.

Forsyth’s black Infiniti was found in a remote area near an aquatic park in Cassville. The car was unlocked with his wallet, two phones and a laptop inside.

Several law enforcement agencies, including the Missouri State Highway Patrol, have joined in the search using people, dogs and drones. Forsyth’s family set up a Facebook page seeking information.

Richard Forsyth said his brother had been at the Cassville hospital for about 15 years. He described John Forsyth as a doting father who became engaged to his girlfriend just a couple of days before he disappeared.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Missouri HAS to go through probate, even with a will (to be able to contest it), if the estate is over a certain amount ($50k, I think?) for the things that might be just in his name. This usually takes near a year. If things are held jointly, they revert to the other owner in most cases.

Wisconsin is similar. It is probate regardless but very informal probate if under a certain dollar amount and FAR easier and quicker. However if you have put some assets on POD they don't have to go through it to get them. My folks did that and my mom had my brother do it when he had cancer. It means pay on death. No probate, decision made, named people get paid. Can be done on retirements, life insurance I believe, checking accounts for sure, etc.

Regardless of MO I think his having a will or not certainly plays in. In a will you can name who and it can be different than automatic legal heirs/next of kin if NO will.

I'm not sure about reverting to other owner. In a marriage here it goes to the spouse, the home, etc. checking, etc., if all joint. Automatically without any fight.

But like he and his brother owning a business, how would that work IF no written agreement?

 

[GrandmaBear]

To my knowledge, the autopsy report was completed in a timely manner, it's just hasn't been released due to the on-going investigation.

I'm glad he shared it.
Now I don't believe there actually was a kidnapping and so I think if they haven't already, investigators should try to find out what was going on with the brother prior to the kidnapping story.

I don't know. I don't even know what I am saying I don't know to.

Yeah the kidnapping was like a lie to him by his brother IF the brother is telling the truth himself. Who was the buddy whose house he showed up at, didn't he verify he did? Or not? I think he allegeldy verify to the brother that John showed up at his house or am I wrong? Can't recall.

If not, this could flat out be the brother making it up. If it was John yeah it could be some false story to get out of something in his life and where he really was. My first thought would be explaining to a female again. Is it true, did John lie or is the brother lying about the kidnapping story?

You are welcome to your opinion but there's a few here as you see who aren't sold on the brother. HE is the one making it seem as with Bitcoin and the things that surround it all this intrigue was going on, hackers, competitors, etc. It was he who brings up a kidnapping. Almost ALL of the thoughts come from him.

MOST cases when they come back down to earth are simple. And it isn't some darned out there novel. If one takes away all the brother has said, there isn't much other than a missing man with a lot of kids and maybe a few too many girlfriends who worked hard and had money and did Bitcoin. A man who went missing supposedly without a trace almost until found dead.

At its core it would appear to be he met someone he trusted or left with someone he trusted who had planned and plotted.

There are elements here to lead us to other things like Bitcoin, like divorce, like him having so many cell phones to think he had some other life or something going on, and then there are the ADDED things by the brother--the kidnapping, the casket of rocks, etc.

As @Kimster says LE is looking at him and has and probably still is. They don't get warrants for no reason. What was in the warrant to give enough cause???

I know in most cases you and I don't agree and in some we do. So with respect but I think you are all wet on this one to just believe the brother. I'm not saying he did it or was involved but there is absolutely NO REASON he shouldn't be on the radar and imo he put himself there as well.

 

[Regina]

Is it true, did John lie or is the brother lying about the kidnapping story?

I think John made up the kidnapping story.

As @Kimster says LE is looking at him and has and probably still is. They don't get warrants for no reason. What was in the warrant to give enough cause???

Well, they never found the gun and as I understand it, John wasn't known to have one but the brother did and does and it's of the same caliber as the one that killed John and so I'm not sure they'd need any more than that to get a warrant.

I know in most cases you and I don't agree and in some we do. So with respect but I think you are all wet on this one to just believe the brother. I'm not saying he did it or was involved but there is absolutely NO REASON he shouldn't be on the radar and imo he put himself there as well.

It isn't that I "just believe the brother", although I have no reason not to, it's that I have yet to see that there was involvement of anyone else in the death.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I think John made up the kidnapping story.

Well, they never found the gun and as I understand it, John wasn't known to have one but the brother did and does and it's of the same caliber as the one that killed John and so I'm not sure they'd need any more than that to get a warrant.

It isn't that I "just believe the brother", although I have no reason not to, it's that I have yet to see that there was involvement of anyone else in the death.

I'm confused. You say you see no reason not to believe the brother but then say you think he made up the kidnapping? And I don't understand your last line either. Do you mean suicide and you see no involvement of ANYONE else including the brother?

As far as the gun, I don't think that's enough, if that was all it took then anyone John knew who owned a Glock wasn't it, they could get a warrant for and maybe anyone at all. I'm sure it would take more than that. He also claimed as you heard since you watched the interview that he offered them anything he could provide but they still went ahead by warrant so IF true he offered free access to all, I'm not so sure of that.

Also a warrant has to be pretty specific and if they only had the gun, they'd be allowed to likely only take the gun, maybe ammo and anything that related. And if he truly offered anything, they could simply ask for the gun no? Did he have more than one gun that was the right type?

They HAD to have something more than that I think. If it was registered, just ask him for the registered gun. If it was not registered, they woulnd't know about it. It doesn't add up that that was the cause on the search warrant. Imo. There has to be more.

 

[GrandmaBear]

So I have it in my head brother said John owned a Glock and so did he. NOT saying I am right or this is true but I thought so but to verify first before saying it I googled and came up with little except a Reddit link that had the brother's recent interview and maybe two or three comments.

One of the comments was that it sounded to them like John faked the kidnapping and his own death. It seemed ludicrous and I almost gave it no more thought but it would fit things we know BUT the problem is LE finding a body BUT they never let anyone else confirm it from family, etc. Such a thought would really fit perfectly, he staged it all IF they had not found a body that is allegedly him.

In fact if NOT for that, it would fit the best. Divorce, alimony, child support, two new children by two different women, heavy work hours, stress, the weight of the world and responsibility and money, money, money to go to women. Or maybe he made a plan with ONE woman that would let him out of payments to the others.. It wouldn't be the first time someone staged their own death using another victim.

I'm not saying I believe it, I am saying it got the thoughts going...

Does anyone remember that case where the guy looked for someone of similar build etc. at like Home Depot and offered him a job or something and a car came off the jack or whatever you call it and fell on him only it was thought to be and said to be the man faking his death who actually killed another guy? And his wife was in on it too? Wasn't there also some pastor that faked his death? It seems to me the cops bought hit in the first case. If I recall it was a life insurance scam and they may ahve been investigating or watching the wife or some such and then...

Problem is the cops or one or the ME or someone here would have to be in on it. Or have bought the fact this was John BUT the fact they didn't have family ID would say they'd have to be in on it.

I'm not saying I buy it, I am saying it made for some interesting thoughts and it made me realize if NOT for the body, it would make some sense to me for the reasons I gave here. The same reasons make me rethink suicide...The gun would have to be there though...

Whacky case, absolutely whacky.

 

[Kimster]

To my knowledge, the autopsy report was completed in a timely manner, it just hasn't been released due to the on-going investigation.

I'm glad he shared it.
Now I don't believe there actually was a kidnapping and so I think if they haven't already, investigators should try to find out what was going on with the brother prior to the kidnapping story.

I agree. The kidnapping story doesn’t hold water for me. I’m not even sure if I believe he said he’d been kidnapped.

 

[Guess Who]

I agree. The kidnapping story doesn’t hold water for me. I’m not even sure if I believe he said he’d been kidnapped.

That's just it about the brother that bothers me. I don't think I believe him in a lot of things so I'm not sure if I believe anything he's saying. I do hope it's just a personality thing and not a nefarious thing.

 

[Kimster]

That's just it about the brother that bothers me. I don't think I believe him in a lot of things so I'm not sure if I believe anything he's saying. I do hope it's just a personality thing and not a nefarious thing.

Or is there something hinky about the person that relayed the story?

 

[Guess Who]

Or is there something hinky about the person that relayed the story?

Exactly! I don't know who or what to believe or how much more or less the brother knows.

 

[GrandmaBear]

That's just it about the brother that bothers me. I don't think I believe him in a lot of things so I'm not sure if I believe anything he's saying. I do hope it's just a personality thing and not a nefarious thing.

I feel much the same as you know. It is hard to know what to put down to grief, to not sharing too much re the investigation, to personality or to possible untruths and covering something up.

The kidnapping story comes from and came from him ONLY unless John's friend corroborated it, I can't recall. If not for the brother however, we would have never heard such a tale.

IF true John said it, I'd have to lean towards he concocted a b.s. story of why he'd been gone for a day or however many it was and couldn't be reached. I'd lean towards needing a really good excuse for something but making up a far fetched one. Kind of like Carlee Russel did. It may seem there is no comparison but oh yes there would be. Both were victims, both escaped, are tough, heroes, etc.

Personally in reading between the lines, I feel there were at minimum problems with the women in his life. Even proposing recently could have been a pressure thing, the baby was coming. Maybe she threatened to leave him if he did not marry her, who knows. Maybe he promised to marry her when the divorce was final and it was the last thing he wanted to do and then you have woman with baby #8 over here too...

Brother said hadn't seen him happier in a long time but then it comes from the brother and/or maybe the happiness stemmed from he had made some kind of decision to change it all and just walk away from his life ONE way or another.

I did not lean that way initially but I am starting to wonder. I do though still have serious issues with the brother.

 

[Regina]

I agree. The kidnapping story doesn’t hold water for me. I’m not even sure if I believe he said he’d been kidnapped.

Yeah, it's entered my mind that maybe he didn't but there's actually no reason to doubt that he did and so until there is a reason, I think we should believe he did.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Yeah, it's entered my mind that maybe he didn't but there's actually no reason to doubt that it, and so until there is a reason, I think we should believe he did.

There's less reason to believe he did though so for me it makes more sense to believe he never said such a thing as he isn't here to say so and confirm it, it is total hearsay in what appears to be a criminal case and the man who claims he said it had his home searched, failed a polygraph, etc.

I agree with you that some things should not be doubted OR believed until we have reason but feel you are looking at this one backwards. There is no reason to believe this story or that John said this to his brother. None. Has anyone else confirmed it? Never told a fiance, a coworker, etc. Has the friend he went to after escaping confirmed it? I can't recall but I don't think so. IS there such a friend...?

 

[Regina]

There is no reason to believe this story or that John said this to his brother.

The info isn't that John said that to his brother, the info is that the brother was unaware of the kidnapping story until it was told to him shortly after John's disappearance.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The info isn't that John said that to his brother, the info is that the brother was unaware of the kidnapping story until it was told to him shortly after John's disappearance.

Oh that's right it came from a "friend" to the brother. John never told his brother. Odd since they were so close per his recent interview but did tell some friend.

I've asked a couple of times, has the friend ever been named or confirmed this? I know he hasn't been named and I am pretty certain cops have never confirmed friend confirmed what the brother said, cops have confirmed little that this man says.

For that reason, I'm putting no faith in it was even a story told to a friend, that that friend then told the brother or that there even necessarily is a friend.

 

[Regina]

Oh that's right it came from a "friend" to the brother. John never told his brother. Odd since they were so close per his recent interview but did tell some friend.

Not odd if it wasn't true, though, right?

 

[Guess Who]

Not odd if it wasn't true, though, right?

it's odd, especially if true. The brother claims they were so close, yet his brother told him nothing of it???

I am not saying it did or did not happen, just it's definitely odd because of the brother's story he has told us himself.

 

[Guess Who]

They definitely had some issues with their bitcoin. This or drugs would be my guess as to what happened to him. Here is something from 2017 where evidently they got hacked and a LOT of people lost money

Alitin Mint Coin Breach (bitcointalk.org)

 

[Guess Who]

Other thought is what about ex's (or not so ex???) in his kid's mother's lives?

 

[Regina]

it's odd, especially if true. The brother claims they were so close, yet his brother told him nothing of it???

I am not saying it did or did not happen, just it's definitely odd because of the brother's story he has told us himself.

If it were true, yeah, I think it'd be very odd that he didn't tell anyone but the one person.

 

[Guess Who]

If it were true, yeah, I think it'd be very odd that he didn't tell anyone but the one person.

That we know of... If it even happened.

It could be a made up story that either the DR made up to tell his friend for something else that happened or the friend is lying or the brother is lying. Any of those could have happened...or not.