MO JOHN FORSYTH: Missing from Cassville, MO - 21 May 2023 - Age 49 *Found Deceased*

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Authorities search for Missouri doctor who has been missing more than a week​

Authorities in a small Missouri town are searching for an emergency room physician a week-and-a-half after his mysterious disappearance.

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was last heard from May 21. Police said he was reported missing when he failed to show up for work that day at Mercy Hospital in Cassville, a town of 3,100 residents deep in the Missouri Ozarks.

Forsyth’s black Infiniti was found in a remote area near an aquatic park in Cassville. The car was unlocked with his wallet, two phones and a laptop inside.

Several law enforcement agencies, including the Missouri State Highway Patrol, have joined in the search using people, dogs and drones. Forsyth’s family set up a Facebook page seeking information.

Richard Forsyth said his brother had been at the Cassville hospital for about 15 years. He described John Forsyth as a doting father who became engaged to his girlfriend just a couple of days before he disappeared.
 
Not odd if it wasn't true, though, right?
I had to think about what that meant lol, but yeah, not odd IF the brother never shared such a story with the buddy and the buddy is lying to John's brother.

If he did share it with the buddy but John was lying to the buddy then it is unusual he did not share it with the brother, the same false story, unless there was some reason he only needed the buddy to believe it and I can think of no reason for that. if a false story, the purpose would be, one would think, to get out of trouble of some kind by having an alibi and the alibi was kidnapping. Or I guess he could have done something like cheating on a gf and was gone a couple of days and used it for that. Or he was stealing or doing something within the company and needed these bad guys and some story re someone else is doing it or up to something. Who KNOWS. This is all so out there or ridiculous or something, and you know what, it probably will end up coming down to someone close to John or formerly close, or John himself as to who was/is up to something, things usually do.

Then the final possibility is the story is true. I find it more and more unlikely BUT if it is then yes, it is ODD he did not share it with his brother who claims to be close to him.

I guess there is one more and that is if the buddy is unknown, has never spoken up, LE knows of no such thing or buddy and the BROTHER made it all up himself.

Everything always seems to come back to the brother that gives hints of other weird things or things we should suspect. Now the "box of rocks". Everything comes from him pretty much as I've said before. And LE is not sharing all with family or so it sounds to me...
 
it's odd, especially if true. The brother claims they were so close, yet his brother told him nothing of it???

I am not saying it did or did not happen, just it's definitely odd because of the brother's story he has told us himself.
IF it is a TRUE STORY then it is DEFINITELY ODD he did not tell his brother.

If it is false, is it false from John or false from the buddy or false from the brother to the public and no one told him any such thing?
 
They definitely had some issues with their bitcoin. This or drugs would be my guess as to what happened to him. Here is something from 2017 where evidently they got hacked and a LOT of people lost money

Alitin Mint Coin Breach (bitcointalk.org)
Okayyyy. When you said this and linked it and I read your post, before I even went into the link I had a feeling i was going to see that they were thought to be responsible and of course owed people money. In the first paragraphs I was like okay, HERE WE GO. I was not even going to read he rest of a very long post or whatever by Richard but forced myself to skim it fast. I don't have time for such but I did it anyhow.

Where I didn't have a strong opinion, I DO NOW. Not necessarily on what happened to John but what is likely behind it and it isn't some investor imo. There have been many investors cheated in this world by the likes of names we can name and has a one killed the one that stole their portfolio and life savings, etc? None I can think of off the top of my head. Or kidnapped the one they invested with who failed them??? I'm not saying it couldn't HAPPEN but even if it did, it is because they felt they were scammed, stolen from and lied to.

The way he explains the lack of physical offices and claims they sold them or whatever makes me think they have been quesioned by investors about their entire operation, etc.

How he goes on about his experience and talking a some leader or whatever or this or that.

I don't have to know a thing about Bitcoin to smell a shi*ting scam when I read or see or hear one. Now which did it or did both? And oh yeah it would anger investors if they thought the brother(s) or one of them to be millionaires while they were not recompensed. I don't think though that is what happened and I'm now going to say the kidnapping story I entirely believe to be false.

Richard is left here holding the bag, not sure if he is innocent of this or duped by his own bro or PART OF IT. My leaning right now is both brothers are corrupt but John left Richard to deal with it or Richard found out what John had done and he is trying to ensure he doesn't go down and loses all and offed John. OR John committed suicide and left Richard holding the bag.

Richard did make a remark in that interview of John having many secrets he seemed to almost be sad he'd come to realize...

I'm tired and can't think this through right now or spend more time sorting it and talking here on it but a couple of thoughts are coming to me and IF for any reason John isn't dead, it isn't because cops were in on it imo. Another is I wonder if Richard has actually made a deal... I will have to explain those two when I have more time and think it through a bit more. The others would be Richard killed him because of what he'd done and finally the last is that he committed suicide.

More unlikely thoughts come too but I doubt them now. One would be someone else at the company they had killed John BUT I don't know that I buy they really had other employees, a real office or much of one. Do you know the answer to this? Plenty of shady companies through the years masquerading as something physical don't have one, just an address, PO box, supposed real address, etc. Maybe the office was in a motorhome lol.

That's all I've got for now. Had I read this earlier on, my posts would have been a lot different.

Per Richard in this link, the F E D S were involved to explain to looking at the "hack" or was it the losses more truly or both? And I'd almost think they are involved here as well... Or in a connecting role for sure.
 
Richard called himself the former CEO in that post. In his interviews doesn’t he say he and his brother are current partners?

That post was written in 2017. Did they recover the bitcoin for their customers?

That post leaves me with even more questions.
 
Richard called himself the former CEO in that post. In his interviews doesn’t he say he and his brother are current partners?

That post was written in 2017. Did they recover the bitcoin for their customers?

That post leaves me with even more questions.
Yeah there's a lot to unpack there.

Just one thing--it sounds as if at that time they dissolved the business or the one by that name anyhow. more or less. And "former CEO". To listen to him today I'd get the impression John was more the leader of the business or the one with the knowledge, and the leader but maybe I am wrong on that. And the entire talk is like the Bitcoin business is still relevant in this case but IS there a business? Did they reorganize? Why would it be relevant to anything six years later if it doesn't exist?

He talks like the feds were investigating him and didn't he say he thinks it to appear to be an inside job? What did the feds determine? As you say, were people paid back? Was John even mentioned? I'd have to reread it but he mentioned someone not by name in the company giving the illusion there are others at least. He talks as if they shut down and sold physical offices.

Let's be honest, his post was the length of some of mine. He went on and on way too long bragging, reassuring, explaining. It sounds like a response to people who were maybe angry and trying to get in touch and get answers and to stem a problem. He talks like not that many were compromised and the breach wasn't too bad in size or minimizes somewhat.

To me I am left with the impression of theft more than some bitcoin not holding value, that seems to be more the explanation for the lack of funds or lower funds in accounts as best as I can tell by his response.

Again I don't understand Bitcoin and likely never will nor care to but the appearance of all this and tone of it is theft. Not necessarily just of personal info.

And again what would something that happened six years ago have to do with what happened this year to John? Unless a new company or reorganization OR MORE LIKELY he/they are still being investigated and pressure is building and finances are being looked at etc. and he/they are trying to cover trails?

If it ALL has NOTHING TO DO with it and this is long over then why is it brought up as if it is relevant at all? News is understandable to make something sensational just like like they will use things like "Pageant blonde kills husband" when someone was in a small town pageant 30 years ago, sarcastic example. "Bitcoin millionaire" makes for sensational headlines too.

But aside from the news, why is Richard talking Bitcoin, kidnappings and such thing TODAY. This isn't six years ago. What did they recently have going on with it if anything or as a business? And/or who were they dealing with? And IF actively having a bitcoin business what eventually happened with the results of the last one and the "hack" that was being investigated?

Not unheard of with those that have stolen money to go missing... Only this guy allegedly turned up dead or was it a box of rocks ;) There was that woman in what country I forget whose foot turned up who scammed investors and stole from them and her foot turned up. Allegedly. Many others. She was likely about to be arrested. Sometimes that takes some years...

I can't think of any case where an investor who had his money stolen or it disappeared killed the company owner, etc. I'd say if it has anything to do with it at all, it would be more likely where one business partner killed another to get the business, shut up or steal from the other business partner his share or get the life insurance that partners often hold on the other, etc. Or the thief himself disappeared, tried to, etc. to cover their tracks OR where one business partner killed the other to make it appear he was the guilty party to misdirect something.

Does Bitcoin and the business have anything to do with this? Or does his personal life? And that depends too on if this is even a homicide and if he is really dead. It's pretty far fetched to think cops would lie about that and it's pretty far fetched to think witness protection, I mean these guys in the realm of things are small potatoes aren't they? I guess cops could lie and say he is dead to see what people around him then do with his assets and other things, etc. but again, far fetched.

Seems more likely to me to be someone trying to cover their tracks, either John himself or someone who wants to misdirect something or wants John gone for some gain for themselves, etc.

This is way too much for me for first early morning thinking. But I get little time.
 
This is even more confusing. It appears the company is defunct. And according to this article, the Forsyths were not the founders.

 
That we know of... If it even happened.

It could be a made up story that either the DR made up to tell his friend for something else that happened or the friend is lying or the brother is lying. Any of those could have happened...or not.
Right, but you know, I'm taking it that John made up the story and so from there, I wonder what was going on in his life up until then (Feb, 2022).
 
This is even more confusing. It appears the company is defunct. And according to this article, the Forsyths were not the founders.

That's all Greek to me as is Bitcoin. Sounds a lot like selling anything purported to have value that will increase, etc. like a gold bar with the face of Mother Teresa on it (totally made up by me to say sounds like b.s.).

This in all I couldn't understand strikes me the most:

Although the coins were placed in a “tamper-proof casing,” the keys were prefilled and engraved on the edge of the coin. Users could seal the coin away in a secure place, but they wouldn’t be able to know if the provider had taken a copy beforehand.

The provider being the Forsyths...?

I didn't go into all the extra links, no time plus it is all Greek to me anyhow but for the real talk like what I highlighted around all the b.s. they try to surround it and bitcoin with. These bits and pieces are quite clear.
 
Right, but you know, I'm taking it that John made up the story and so from there, I wonder what was going on in his life up until then (Feb, 2022).
IF John's story never went any further than this "friend" then of what use was it to him? Unless he needed it to get out of some trouble with THIS friend. It only explains or covers something he needs to cover or an alibi for IF the person he needs to explain to knows of the story.

For instance, if he was away cheating on the wife and came home and told the wife he was kidnapped, there is reason for it, he needs to get out of trouble, gain sympathy, turn the table and get out of the suspicion of that he was missing and cheating.

I don't have clear recall but ONLY this friend knew this tale right? So what did it accomplish for John? Was he in trouble with the friend who was wondering where he was or why he didn't do something he should have? It gains him nothing unless it is to do with the friend IF no one else ever hears the story...
 
IF John's story never went any further than this "friend" then of what use was it to him? Unless he needed it to get out of some trouble with THIS friend. It only explains or covers something he needs to cover or an alibi for IF the person he needs to explain to knows of the story.

For instance, if he was away cheating on the wife and came home and told the wife he was kidnapped, there is reason for it, he needs to get out of trouble, gain sympathy, turn the table and get out of the suspicion of that he was missing and cheating.

I don't have clear recall but ONLY this friend knew this tale right? So what did it accomplish for John? Was he in trouble with the friend who was wondering where he was or why he didn't do something he should have? It gains him nothing unless it is to do with the friend IF no one else ever hears the story...
That's exactly where I am with the story. Was it a bad attempt to cover for something else he didn't want somebody to know about? Or was he really into bad stuff with bad actors involved? That would seem like something you might let your brother that you are so close to know about. Drugs? Money? Affairs? IF it really happened, he definitely pizzed somebody off. If it didn't, somebody sure thought that story was better than what he was really up to.

My bet is that he might have gotten involved with a married, or otherwise taken, mistress. He sure likes making kids.
 
That's exactly where I am with the story. Was it a bad attempt to cover for something else he didn't want somebody to know about? Or was he really into bad stuff with bad actors involved? That would seem like something you might let your brother that you are so close to know about. Drugs? Money? Affairs? IF it really happened, he definitely pizzed somebody off. If it didn't, somebody sure thought that story was better than what he was really up to.

My bet is that he might have gotten involved with a married, or otherwise taken, mistress. He sure likes making kids.
You and @GrandmaBear have made great points, IF John even said he’d been kidnapped at all.
 
Well, I'd certainly need more info before I could even try to make sense of why John would make-up such a story.
All I know about that time period in his life is that it was two months later that his wife filed for divorce.
Other than that, I know he had at least 7 children by that time and that at the time of his death, he'd had another child with another woman and was expecting his 9th child with yet third woman.
 
That's exactly where I am with the story. Was it a bad attempt to cover for something else he didn't want somebody to know about? Or was he really into bad stuff with bad actors involved? That would seem like something you might let your brother that you are so close to know about. Drugs? Money? Affairs? IF it really happened, he definitely pizzed somebody off. If it didn't, somebody sure thought that story was better than what he was really up to.

My bet is that he might have gotten involved with a married, or otherwise taken, mistress. He sure likes making kids.
Yeah I lose count but there are like at least three possibilities with this story and one is that John never said any such thing as well.

That would either mean the brother is lying or the friend that told the brother is lying or there IS no friend that told the brother. With my life which I don't need to again go on about my lack of time but yeah, it is hard to know which is the case but even with more time, it would be hard to know which is the case.

Drugs I don't talk much of, you do more, but it doesn't mean I don't think they are a possibility. He was at a hospital and had a motorhome (we don't need to agree if living there or not) with allegedly a number of cell phones in it. I think affairs are not a big leap and he certainly made babies with various women and I don't have time (don't mean to point it out again lol) but there were remarks by the bro back when or by someone (he is pretty much the only person talking so I think him) that John would be humorous or whatever with other employees and it was all in fun but it was said different than that, i can't recall, but I recall thinking yeah, he is hitting on nurses or women, etc....) But he didn't mean it all in fun and due to stress in the hospital or surgery, making jokes. I am VERY much paraphrasing and probably have it a bit wrong but my mind went to cheating spouse even way back before we knew of baby 8, etc.

I don't know if he wants babies so much as he likes the act that makes babies. "And that brings a lot of financial pressure itself especially with three different families... That we KNOW Of. He may have been the salt of the earth but I don['t think he was perfection and who knows other than first wife with some years and many kids, number 8 and 9's mom may have seen what they thought was a wealthy man and there may have been intentional pregnancies or in number 9's case, pressure to marry...

This man had a WHOLE lot going on. And on top of it long hours at the hospital, enemies, a kidnapping, both brothers a Bitcoin business failure and investigation albeit awhile back such can take years and apparently the feds looking into it, a least at the time of Richard's post...

He has enough going on to give anyone a headache in what could have happened here.

The |LAST thing I believe is some defrauded or hacked investors killed him. The last thing I think is some Bitcoin enemies or competitors did so. These kind of things though do seem to be what the brother gets us or would like to get people thinking... You aren't sold on him/sure of him and neither am I. He could be I guess trying to help LE smoke someone else out or make them feel secure in that they aren't being looked at so they get bold and do something BUT that's stuff for the movies too, I kind of doubt it. However, if he made some deal to do with the business hack, drugs, enemies/Bitcoin, I guess he could be "wired" and doing what LE has asked him to put out there. But again, far fetched. Very.

On the personal front, I'd like to know when Baby 8 was born... And when he was first with or committed to number 9's mother and how long he was with her or was seeing her and the same with number 8. Number 8 has to do paternity or DNA where number 9 seems to be accepted. I'm sorry but it makes it sound to me like he was more invested in number 9 and number 8 was maybe a one night stand or even a sex worker or just someone casual. BUT they could be a year or more apart, how would we know?

This man had a LOT of pressure rand yet bro said never seen him happier or at least not in a long time...

I can see this man bailing on his life and faking his own death. However, then how do the cops have or had his body...
 
Well, I'd certainly need more info before I could even try to make sense of why John would make-up such a story.
All I know about that time period in his life is that it was two months later that his wife filed for divorce.
Other than that, I know he had at least 7 children by that time and that at the time of his death, he'd had another child with another woman and was expecting his 9th child with yet third woman.
No offense you kind of crack me up (a good thing, I can use it) since any of the scenarios of what the kidnapping story was or who made it up is something we need more info on to determine which scenario is true? You do have a stance at the moment, a few posts back said you are taking it that John made up the story. I just have to ask how do you lean that way more than the other possibilities? I sure don't have one as they are all plausible. Not that I have any problem with just an opinion, stance or feeling as I am guilty of that all of the time but you come across as if you wait for proof, however, again any of these scenarios are possible. And not outlandishly so, any person could be responsible for this outlandish story or of course it could be rue. The brother, John, or the friend.

I think John having made it up is as or more likely than any scenario but I don't see what it helped him with or gained by only telling it to this friend and asking it not be told to anyone else, not even telling his brother. That would lead one to believe it is true or the friend is making it up or he needed a story to assuage something with the friend as to why he didn't do something, where he claims he was when he should have been elsewhere, etc.

I think from back when we know this friend is male right or did I just assume that...? I think it was a mutual male acquaintance of Richard and John wasn't it? Was it said? Because if the friend was female that changes EVERYthing.
 
No offense you kind of crack me up (a good thing, I can use it) since any of the scenarios of what the kidnapping story was or who made it up is something we need more info on to determine which scenario is true? You do have a stance at the moment, a few posts back said you are taking it that John made up the story. I just have to ask how do you lean that way more than the other possibilities? I sure don't have one as they are all plausible. Not that I have any problem with just an opinion, stance or feeling as I am guilty of that all of the time but you come across as if you wait for proof, however, again any of these scenarios are possible. And not outlandishly so, any person could be responsible for this outlandish story or of course it could be rue. The brother, John, or the friend.

I think John having made it up is as or more likely than any scenario but I don't see what it helped him with or gained by only telling it to this friend and asking it not be told to anyone else, not even telling his brother. That would lead one to believe it is true or the friend is making it up or he needed a story to assuage something with the friend as to why he didn't do something, where he claims he was when he should have been elsewhere, etc.

I think from back when we know this friend is male right or did I just assume that...? I think it was a mutual male acquaintance of Richard and John wasn't it? Was it said? Because if the friend was female that changes EVERYthing.
I just take the info as it is, I mean, I believe the brother and the friend, why wouldn't I?
What I don't believe is that John was kidnapped, why would I?
 
I just take the info as it is, I mean, I believe the brother and the friend, why wouldn't I?
What I don't believe is that John was kidnapped, why would I?
I don't think I buy the kidnapping story either, but have no idea who started that story. If it really was John that started it, then I believe he might have been beat up by somebody (if it explaining possible injuries) or absence. . Either a spurned other half... Somebody he owed money/drugs to .. something totally unrelated to anything we know about...???
 
I don't think I buy the kidnapping story either, but have no idea who started that story. If it really was John that started it, then I believe he might have been beat up by somebody (if it explaining possible injuries) or absence. . Either a spurned other half... Somebody he owed money/drugs to .. something totally unrelated to anything we know about...???
Well we're told John "started" it, you just choose not to believe it but I think the reason for the story was of a personal nature possibly known only to John.
 
I just take the info as it is, I mean, I believe the brother and the friend, why wouldn't I?
What I don't believe is that John was kidnapped, why would I?
On that way of thinking, John said he was kidnapped and so why not take that info as it is? Why wouldn't you? As you put it and say it per he brother and friend. Same thing isn't it? We don't know that the "victim" is to blame here by a long shot.

Not picking at you, just saying. We all have our ways we lean in cases and I respect that. But why don't you apply the same to John as you apply to the brother and friend? Not saying he said it, as we all are saying who knows,there are three or more possibilities here.

And I'm sure not saying that it wasn't a lie by John, I consider it a distinct possibility but it could also very easily be a lie by the friend or the brother to throw shade on someone else in this case. That is a very real and logical possibility so why wouldn't you think that/we think that? It is as much a likelihood so as you say with the brother and friend where you say why wouldn't you? Well why wouldn't you give John and this possibility the same benefit of the doubt?

If it is just your instinct and opinion I get it but if it is a basis for judging or criteria you use, then it should apply to all and John as well no?
 

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