JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
www.eastidahonews.com

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
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I don't know if it is the court reporter's keyboard or the reporters but during opening statements I hear the clicking constantly of a keyboard clacking. I heard something earlier today of a complaint by a juror as to noise of keyboards, was it this case or Stauch? I think it was this one. I find it irritating and I'm not even in the courtroom. Judge said to keep it down on this complaint, again if I have right case and I think I do. WELL were it televised,, they wouldn't need to TWEET etc. now would they?
 
And I'm focused on listening like I suspect the jurors were or tried to be and it is now stopping me from paying attention once I picked up on it.
 
Telling friends etc. that Tylee was dark. Same with JJ. Messages etc. about all of that but no word or actions re kids when they went missing. No looking for them, no talking of them, etc. Talked to others that JJ must not be JJ any more as evil spirit took him over, etc. Told April Raymond that on divorce, JJ would have to go with Charles so he could take care of him and Charles would have to learn to take care of him because she was here on a mission on earth to take care of the 144,000, what she does on earth doesn't matter or count for her or against her, etc., etc. blah blah blah. she was convincing and people around them believed it/her, etc. She had more important things to do than take care of her child.

Of course she was a translated being and convinced others they were in the translation process. She and Chad used their proposed beliefs and teachings to manipulate others into not questioning their actions and to support their actions. However, those teachings changed over time when their actions didn't match their teachings so they changed to support their actions, etc...

Gag. For me, they have always KNOWN exactly what they were doing and I agree wholeheartedly. Whatever excuses their own actions, manipulates or cons others and supports their own actions and changing it as they need to...
 
Defense's opening. He is carefully not being antagonistic nor attacking, etc. but the closest remark to having something jurors or one could infer is that Kay asked Lori and Charles to take JJ on because apparently Kay couldn't deal with him or be bothered or they would have kept him as they had him (paraphrasing)... His point was clear without really saying it... Some or much of what he says sounds like Lori talking... She was vivacious, people wanted to be around her, etc., etc. Both openings have their points but are delivered pretty low key imo.
 
Her attorney actually says in his opening about her alibi when the kids died that she was in her apartment with Melanie G, David W. and/or Chad. He says it that way and/or. WHAT is that supposed to mean? Covering in case it was a moment he wasn't there but maybe off helping Alex? Covering in case he DENIES it. An either/or?? It is a worthless alibi anyhow imo.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Ordered wedding items before Tammy was dead. As to the kids, if she didn't kill them why lie about it and lie about their whereabouts, claim they were with Mel Gibb, refuse to tell, take off when the welfare check was done, etc. Yeah, I think there is a LOT and I can't even come up with the half of it right now. Definitely depends on proesecution stringing all together for the jury to form a complete picture in a very convoluted case with many players and events and victims.

Labeling the kids dark and possessed or whatever I think is huge too. And gee, Alex just kills both Tylee and JJ next door while Lori is home and she just never bats an eye, looks for them, calls cops, grieves, attacks Alex, etc.?

EVEN IF Alex did the acts, there still is major evidence of a plan and conspiracy imo. Who was he killing them for and why????
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She was busy! She had a podcast to get out! :rolleyes:
 
GrandmaBear said:
Her attorney actually says in his opening about her alibi when the kids died that she was in her apartment with Melanie G, David W. and/or Chad. He says it that way and/or. WHAT is that supposed to mean? Covering in case it was a moment he wasn't there but maybe off helping Alex? Covering in case he DENIES it. An either/or?? It is a worthless alibi anyhow imo.
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Sure is! Especially since she told MG and her BF DW that Tylee was at college!!!!
 
It is interesting in listening to Kay's testimony that she was worried about JJ after Charles died and contacted LE etc. and how it isn't mentioned how Charles died. More than once Charles' death has been referred to but it never is said HOW he died so I can only surmise that they can't say in this trial that Alex shot him or Lori was involved, etc...

@Kimster Did you notice this in listening to Kay's testimony?
 
GrandmaBear said:
Last time Tylee was seen was like the 8th or was it 9th of September. JJ was last seen on the 22nd of September. That is TWO weeks in between. Lori's alibi claims Alex killed them both on such and such a date in his apartment and she has an alibi as she was in her apartment with others. Funny though isn't it that Mel G and David W etc. never saw Tylee on that weekend they were there... Did Alex have Tylee tied up and gagged or something? And Lori never noticed her missing for two weeks etc.? Yah right. David and Mel never saw her all weekend but did see Alex, etc. Yah right.
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I think Tylee was dead before JJ and the visit to Yellowstone was the last record of her. Chad calling Tammy and saying he had killed and buried a possum was him burying Tylee I think. Then, with no Tylee to watch and help with JJ, they killed him next. Then came the shooting attempt at both Brandon and Tammy and her death in October. After the life insurance had been increased though of course. I am just waiting for all these dates to be confirmed in court testimonies.
 
Tresir said:
I think Tylee was dead before JJ and the visit to Yellowstone was the last record of her. Chad calling Tammy and saying he had killed and buried a possum was him burying Tylee I think. Then, with no Tylee to watch and help with JJ, they killed him next. Then came the shooting attempt at both Brandon and Tammy and her death in October. After the life insurance had been increased though of course. I am just waiting for all these dates to be confirmed in court testimonies.
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I agree they were not killed at the same time and that Tylee was first. I think another reason for that is she wouldn't have stood for JJ being killed or disappearing I don't think...
 
GrandmaBear said:
EXACTLY. If she was dead and Alex killed her or she didn't know where she was, you wouldn't lie right? Tylee was never even enrolled at BYU from all I've ever heard in this case from day one.
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As far as I know, she never even set foot on the campus.

I have to believe that Lori really did think she was leaving this earth, can't remember the date but I think it was supposed to be in June of 2020? How else would it work that no one would wonder what happened to the kids!
 
GrandmaBear said:
It is interesting in listening to Kay's testimony that she was worried about JJ after Charles died and contacted LE etc. and how it isn't mentioned how Charles died. More than once Charles' death has been referred to but it never is said HOW he died so I can only surmise that they can't say in this trial that Alex shot him or Lori was involved, etc...

@Kimster Did you notice this in listening to Kay's testimony?
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Yes and I think it's because it would "taint" the murder case in Charles' case.
 
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