JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
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The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
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GrandmaBear said:
Lori was so mad at Alex messing up with his shooting of Tammy but did she get mad at Chad for messing up? Nope, she goes off and marries him. Of course at that time she was I suppose happy is wife was dead (so he succeeded) and at that time he had gotten away with it...

What does she think of the bumblehead now?
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Plus, went and got married with the wedding rings purchased prior to her death. Send like she's part of the bumbling, too.
 
Guess Who said:
Plus, went and got married with the wedding rings purchased prior to her death. Send like she's part of the bumbling, too.
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I thought that as I was commenting but figured I'd do another post as to her idiocy lol. I wanted to leave it where she thinks the men are the idiots and then touch on her next and how she can't really judge either. Then got sidetracked.

Yeah and even before that, their ridiculous story re Charles and the lead up to that whole PLANNED murder and getting him to come over, etc. was stupid. Or it was stupid but the responding stupid cops bought it apparently... But so did the responding cops buy Chad's story re Tammy I guess.

Sad to say but LE left them feeling they were smart and LE looks pretty dumb too in those cases when one thinks about it and the county coroner...
 
Guess Who said:
And a body in rigor isn't going to just fall off the bed without help
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Maybe if the body was that which was inhabited by one of Chad and Lori's zombies it would? Lol. My apologies to Tammy for saying that but that's about how dumb the evil murderers are, he probably just couldn't remember the real world any more from teaching all his manipulative, b.s. zombie etc. crap.
 
Kimster said:
They should be able to tell by the state her body was in when they got there and how long it had been since she had passed. Didn’t someone say something about rigor mortis was present? Don’t quote me on that one. I think there’s going to be more testimony on her autopsy.
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Yes rigor had set in and lividity showed that she died on her back. Chad said he woke and found her half out of bed head down. Then made up some cock and bull story that she must have fallen out of bed, dead when he turned over and pulled on the sheets. Dead bodies do not fall out of bed.
 
Tresir said:
Yes rigor had set in and lividity showed that she died on her back. Chad said he woke and found her half out of bed head down. Then made up some cock and bull story that she must have fallen out of bed, dead when he turned over and pulled on the sheets. Dead bodies do not fall out of bed.
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I think they have Lori pretty dead to rights, I think there is plenty/more than enough especially on conspiracy but Chad is the one really going down the tubes in Lori's trial. Maybe more so than even Alex. Of course Summer, Zulema and Mel G. have a lot to do with that with what they claim but so do these other things like his lies re Tammy's death, change of story, the racoon text, the checking with him if a casting worked, his light and dark scale of those close to Lori, the fact the kids were on his property with DNA on his tools, texts and far more. Every time one turns around, there is evidence re Chad.

That doesn't take away from her guilt as that is plenty evident as well. PLENTY EVIDENT. Charles, rings, wedding dresses, texts, claiming things about JJ, Tylee being dark, pattern and so much more. Fleeing, lying about the kids repeatedly and their whereabouts. Etc.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I think they have Lori pretty dead to rights, I think there is plenty/more than enough especially on conspiracy but Chad is the one really going down the tubes in Lori's trial. Maybe more so than even Alex. Of course Summer, Zulema and Mel G. have a lot to do with that with what they claim but so do these other things like his lies re Tammy's death, change of story, the racoon text, the checking with him if a casting worked, his light and dark scale of those close to Lori, the fact the kids were on his property with DNA on his tools, texts and far more. Every time one turns around, there is evidence re Chad.

That doesn't take away from her guilt as that is plenty evident as well. PLENTY EVIDENT. Charles, rings, wedding dresses, texts, claiming things about JJ, Tylee being dark, pattern and so much more. Fleeing, lying about the kids repeatedly and their whereabouts. Etc.
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John Prior is probably hyperventilating. :)
 
RoundPeg said:
John Prior is probably hyperventilating. :)
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You're right I imagine he is :D They have an advantage being able to see how the case is presented, what witnesses say and much more time to prepare but not the best prep is going to overcome all of this imo or even half of it lol. I hope he has relayed this in full and truthfully to Chad Toad and that Chad is also hyperventilating.

I feel a bit nasty/mean as I write that and yet why? They are well beyond nasty and did terrible things to children and adults alike. Evil personified as they say. Imo.
 
GrandmaBear said:
You're right I imagine he is :D They have an advantage being able to see how the case is presented, what witnesses say and much more time to prepare but not the best prep is going to overcome all of this imo or even half of it lol. I hope he has relayed this in full and truthfully to Chad Toad and that Chad is also hyperventilating.

I feel a bit nasty/mean as I write that and yet why? They are well beyond nasty and did terrible things to children and adults alike. Evil personified as they say. Imo.
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They have had plenty of time to do a deal. Now they don't deserve any sympathy.
 
Tresir said:
They have had plenty of time to do a deal. Now they don't deserve any sympathy.
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I don't feel a bit of sympathy for them, it is simply when I say nasty things, which I do quite often against perps that are clearly guilty, every so often I feel a bit vindictive, nasty and mean and I have to stop and question myself. Believe me, I could never be a Pollyanna sort towards them and be like oh my let them out, I don't care what they did, Lori had weird parents or Chad had effects from all those graves he dug...

It is more that in all other realms of life for the most part, I rarely feel something almost akin to hatred so it can feel a bit alien to me at times and makes me stop and think about it and touch baseto check if I should check it.

It is far from unusual though, most feel that way I think when it comes especially to murder. And even more so murder of innocents or of one's own children!

It's kind of like all the obsession about how Lori looks each day, whether she curled her hair or not, etc. I don't think most who are all into asking about that or commenting are probably generally that way or judgmental on that stuff but we become that way with a murderer who thought she was all that brought down a peg when we haven't seen her convicted yet when she wears clown lipstick to court (in Hawaii I think it was) and has her brown roots showing...

I'm okay lol, back to not judging myself for it lol as it is normal I think. By the way she must be using better bleach or lemon or something now as on that occasion not only were long strands of brown hair present in the back etc. but what was blonde was a very orange-brassy color. All ate that up as did I.

Clearly her normal color was never blonde. I think Summer stays closer to her natural color than either their mother or Lori does.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I don't feel a bit of sympathy for them, it is simply when I say nasty things, which I do quite often against perps that are clearly guilty, every so often I feel a bit vindictive, nasty and mean and I have to stop and question myself. Believe me, I could never be a Pollyanna sort towards them and be like oh my let them out, I don't care what they did, Lori had weird parents or Chad had effects from all those graves he dug...

It is more that in all other realms of life for the most part, I rarely feel something almost akin to hatred so it can feel a bit alien to me at times and makes me stop and think about it and touch baseto check if I should check it.

It is far from unusual though, most feel that way I think when it comes especially to murder. And even more so murder of innocents or of one's own children!

It's kind of like all the obsession about how Lori looks each day, whether she curled her hair or not, etc. I don't think most who are all into asking about that or commenting are probably generally that way or judgmental on that stuff but we become that way with a murderer who thought she was all that brought down a peg when we haven't seen her convicted yet when she wears clown lipstick to court (in Hawaii I think it was) and has her brown roots showing...

I'm okay lol, back to not judging myself for it lol as it is normal I think. By the way she must be using better bleach or lemon or something now as on that occasion not only were long strands of brown hair present in the back etc. but what was blonde was a very orange-brassy color. All ate that up as did I.

Clearly her normal color was never blonde. I think Summer stays closer to her natural color than either their mother or Lori does.
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I just want to see justice done for this evil pair. I don't care about her hair or her eyebrows but I am interested in things like the shackles and her demeanour in court but of course we are not able to see that unfortunately.

I would like to see the LDS church leaders address these beliefs (about the leading of the 144k and the prepping and all that stuff) which led to these murders in the first place.
 
Tresir said:
Yes rigor had set in and lividity showed that she died on her back. Chad said he woke and found her half out of bed head down. Then made up some cock and bull story that she must have fallen out of bed, dead when he turned over and pulled on the sheets. Dead bodies do not fall out of bed.
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To be fair, she was a zombie.
 
Tresir said:
I just want to see justice done for this evil pair. I don't care about her hair or her eyebrows but I am interested in things like the shackles and her demeanour in court but of course we are not able to see that unfortunately.

I would like to see the LDS church leaders address these beliefs (about the leading of the 144k and the prepping and all that stuff) which led to these murders in the first place.
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We don't know the 144k thing never happened. 144k people could have been called up to the kingdom of heaven. Just because they weren't, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
Tresir said:
I just want to see justice done for this evil pair. I don't care about her hair or her eyebrows but I am interested in things like the shackles and her demeanour in court but of course we are not able to see that unfortunately.

I would like to see the LDS church leaders address these beliefs (about the leading of the 144k and the prepping and all that stuff) which led to these murders in the first place.
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I'm not interested in her hair etc. nor do I ever ask either but I am not above enjoying it when she doesn't look great or judging anyone else who asks what she looked like that day. I agree, it is minor in comparison but I understand it.

I agree with the LDS comment. They need to speak up instead of being the silent elephant in the room. And not all of Chad and Lori's beliefs were alien to the church and most of the group were active in the church, it isn't like they broke away or were ex-communicated or whatever the LDS word is for it. I know Alex was but most weren't.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
We don't know the 144k thing never happened. 144k people could have been called up to the kingdom of heaven. Just because they weren't, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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I don't think the rest of us continue on on earth when that happens is the way it goes or is believed to go... So arguably it hasn't happened yet. If it did, I clearly missed out as did you...
 
There has been so much in this case that it is easy to forget some, and I may have seen this but I'm pretty darned positive I didn't. I may have seen part one, not even sure of that but think perhaps... Give this 7 minutes and you'll know if you want to keep watching or not.

Tammy and Chad were no longer sitting together in church. There were some family events, one after Charles died, where things were odd between them, etc. And more....

This interview was five months ago and considering all I've had going on and how little time I had, I'm pretty sure I never saw it prior.

 
Also the way Chad was bringing Lori right in meeting not just the kids but church people etc. Yeah, the church. She let I think Chad's brother know and he called his parents who hadn't known but had just met her (Lori)... He told them he met someone and thought he was going to marry her (they were already married)...

Etc.
 
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