JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events

• April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
• December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
• February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
• February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
• June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
• July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
• August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
• September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
• September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
• September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
• September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
• October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
• October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
• October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
• October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
• Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
• November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
• November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
• December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
• December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
• December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
• January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
• January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

www.eastidahonews.com

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[GrandmaBear]

That was the only defense I could think of.

Their case is so weak though. They had all of that discovery before we did so they knew about all the texts, etc. It was a blessing in disguise that Alex didn’t have an iPhone.

His case is weaker than its ever been with what we know now.

Can they state in is trial that his co-conspirator went to prison and was found guilty? I have a feeling they can't but unsure.

He should be sweating bullets as i think the case against him is stronger than against Lori.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Isn’t that interesting that we can imagine him throwing her under the bus and not her throwing him under the bus? Does that mean we believe she believes what she’s saying regarding her evil religious mantra ? And that he’s just a plain phoney being led by his storm?

Not for me. I don't believe she believes it for a minute. I guess it is POSSIBLE she believes in Chad but I don't think either of them believe their line of B.S.... I think as I have said before they are basically cons.

I guess it is possible Lori believes in the sh*t but I don't think so. I do NOT believe Chad does as HE is the one who makes it up. Maybe she did too...

 

[GrandmaBear]

Not anymore. I don’t think the text messages will support it.

What does he have for a defense? I think his defense is going to have a harder time defending him than Lori's had. HOWEVER, Prior will go harder by far I think at the witnesses and that MAY help some. As far as a defense all he can really do is blame Alex and Lori and maybe try to say they set him up. It won't work but what else is there...?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I do think she was bamboozled by him and his books. She wanted to believe she was an immortal goddess. I also think she has mental problems. Maybe even a schizophrenic personality disorder.

I'm not so sure. I think she did like saying he was an author, don't ask me why when she was married to a successful businessman and Chad sure was not a success.

I think she did like "playing" the goddess though to "their" people. And to Charles and Audrey when using her role to threaten them, etc.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I was gonna say. Chad isn't the one that ended up in a mental hospital.

I never bought it, sorry to say. She sure hasn't been back in one for a long time--maybe she didn't like it...

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well I can't let this one pass by. She looks awful, sorry to say. Face looks haggard, no makeup does show all doesn't it.

The hair in two braids well...

As for her expression, I think she is angry and glaring and full of attitude.

 

[GrandmaBear]

She has a very pointy nose doesn't she? Fitting for the witch she is.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Honestly, I'd be willing for him to just plead guilty in exchange for LWOP.

I want to see him go through trial but I wouldn't be happy unless he of course was convicted in that trial and they are never a sure thing.

I want to see if his kids have enough nerve to come to court for him and if they sit in support of him.

 

[GrandmaBear]

She looks like the evil witch in Hansel and Gretel. In fact she is the evil witch in Hansel and Gretel and poor JJ and Tylee could not escape her.

She does. And she is.

 

[RoundPeg]

I never bought it, sorry to say. She sure hasn't been back in one for a long time--maybe she didn't like it...

Well, I mean, the State of Idaho treated her. I guess we could go with the premise that anyone in a mental hospital is faking it. I wonder what the average time is between psych hospital visits. Do most people like being in them? I have no idea. I have faith in the justice system and mental health experts, I guess.

 

[RoundPeg]

I want to see him go through trial but I wouldn't be happy unless he of course was convicted in that trial and they are never a sure thing.

I want to see if his kids have enough nerve to come to court for him and if they sit in support of him.

I'm worried about Larry going through this again.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well, I mean, the State of Idaho treated her. I guess we could go with the premise that anyone in a mental hospital is faking it. I wonder what the average time is between psych hospital visits. Do most people like being in them? I have no idea. I have faith in the justice system and mental health experts, I guess.

I don't know, I felt it all hokey and Means involvement in it hokey too. I'm not saying it is common but many sure do fake it or try to and even Letecia Stauch's defense found a lawyer willing to say she was insane or at least that's what they claimed.

Means moved for Lori's being evaluated and it was granted. I'm sure they probably could have or did find maybe some bit of something and treated it and they probably could in most people. We didn'tt to hear of it so we really can't know that part either.

I certainly don't think she has anything that interfered in any way through most of her life or that excuses anything she did even a little bit, OR caused her to do it.

I'm not trying to argue with you, I just differ in opinion.

She's a narcissistic bitch I know that.

Every hearing she attended she was fully competent and then she I guess out of the blue wasn't and then after some weeks she was again or so I guess they'd say but for what reason? Not that I'd necessary buy it if I knew.

What I do remember is it allowed if I recall Woods to be with her I think and I believe it was in the hospital where the church's lawyer managed to contact her if I recall correctly. STuff was up if you ask me. And it's been some time ago but seems to me her lawyer wasn't supposed to be visiting her either... Funny how it sounds like people got far more private contact than they do in jail... Not that attorney/client isn't privileged but the church lawyer wasn't her lawyer. Long time ago, I can't remember it all clearly.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm worried about Larry going through this again.

Yeah it's not fair, that's for sure. While the prosecution did a very great job imo in the trial, they and the judge caused the trials to be split imo. Just think if they had been tried together, Chad too would likely be looking at prison right now. I mean it might have not gone the same with two defenses and two defense lawyers but I think it likely would have with this jury.

It won't be easier necessarily but perhaps it will be SOME easier. I mean they will know what to expect in Chad's, they already know of the details and autopsy results, etc. They may not want to hear it all again but maybe it won't hit them quite as much as the first time but it likely will cause fresh grief at times. The waiting and worrying each defendant will get off has to be bad too. Sure was on us. We only had a few hours and thankfully they didn't have much more than that either.

 

[Kimster]

His case is weaker than its ever been with what we know now.

Can they state in is trial that his co-conspirator went to prison and was found guilty? I have a feeling they can't but unsure.

He should be sweating bullets as i think the case against him is stronger than against Lori.

I’m not sure what the rule is in Idaho? They might not be able to just because it’s a death penalty case.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I’m not sure what the rule is in Idaho? They might not be able to just because it’s a death penalty case.

I'm not sure it can ever be said... For some reason I think that but just not sure.

 

[Tresir]

Well, I mean, the State of Idaho treated her. I guess we could go with the premise that anyone in a mental hospital is faking it. I wonder what the average time is between psych hospital visits. Do most people like being in them? I have no idea. I have faith in the justice system and mental health experts, I guess.

She also had a mental eval in Arizona too. Maybe we will hear more about that in the Charles' murder conspiracy case.

 

[Tresir]

Arizona are also planning to charge Lori in the attempt on Brandon's life.

I just wish they had acted sooner in both of those AZ cases, especially when Charles reported his wife's plans to murder him. Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy would all still be alive if they had listened to him.

Lori Vallow nephew-in-law speaks as she faces new charges for his attempted murder

Brandon Boudreaux called for ‘forgiveness’ for the doomsday cult mom who was found guilty of murdering her two children Tylee Ryan, 16, and Joshua “JJ” Vallow and conspiring to murder Tammy Daybell

www.independent.co.uk

 

[RoundPeg]

I don't know, I felt it all hokey and Woods involvement in it hokey too. I'm not saying it is common but many sure do fake it or try to and even Letecia Stauch's defense found a lawyer willing to say she was insane or at least that's what they claimed.

Woods moved for Lori's being evaluated and it was granted. I'm sure they probably could have or did find maybe some bit of something and treated it and they probably could in most people. We didn't get to hear of it so we really can't know that part either.

I certainly don't think she has anything that interfered in any way through most of her life or that excuses anything she did even a little bit, OR caused her to do it.

I'm not trying to argue with you, I just differ in opinion.

She's a narcissistic bitch I know that.

Every hearing she attended she was fully competent and then she I guess out of the blue wasn't and then after some weeks she was again or so I guess they'd say but for what reason? Not that I'd necessary buy it if I knew.

What I do remember is it allowed if I recall Woods to be with her I think and I believe it was in the hospital where the church's lawyer managed to contact her if I recall correctly. STuff was up if you ask me. And it's been some time ago but seems to me her lawyer wasn't supposed to be visiting her either... Funny how it sounds like people got far more private contact than they do in jail... Not that attorney/client isn't privileged but the church lawyer wasn't her lawyer. Long time ago, I can't remember it all clearly.

I thought Woods and team did a good job of prosecuting her and obviously got the verdicts. Are you thinking he's dirty, too?

 

[RoundPeg]

 

[Kimster]

Arizona are also planning to charge Lori in the attempt on Brandon's life.

I just wish they had acted sooner in both of those AZ cases, especially when Charles reported his wife's plans to murder him. Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy would all still be alive if they had listened to him.

Lori Vallow nephew-in-law speaks as she faces new charges for his attempted murder

Brandon Boudreaux called for ‘forgiveness’ for the doomsday cult mom who was found guilty of murdering her two children Tylee Ryan, 16, and Joshua “JJ” Vallow and conspiring to murder Tammy Daybell

www.independent.co.uk

People scream all kinds of things in divorce cases all the time. That’s why they don’t act on every single accusation. My ex used to fight with his ex over their kids constantly. They would call the police on each other often. It was ridiculous. There’s so much of that going on so that when there is a real threat, it can be easily missed.