JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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What could she possibly say? She isn't going to throw Chad or Alex under the bus, we've already seen that. She isn't going to hurt Chad's chances (not that he has any imo). I guess she could claim she loved her children, say I didn't do this and sit down but that ain't going to have any impact and she wouldn't anyhow. I expect she'll stay silent as she pretty much has been.

If she does speak it will be some generalized bunch of b.s. Like I'm sorry my family is hurting, I'm grieving my children are gone, etc. but NOT that I am the cause or did it. I can't even see that happening.

But who knows? It is one of her last hurrahs, at least in this trial, maybe she'll go all out and put hexes on us all and tell us how the world will end and she will be in charge and we will all be sorry "tomorrow" when that happens.

Of course I work when this will be live streamed. That SUCKS since I have been all in since the beginning of this case.
I wish she would throw herself under a bus. 🎶 The wheels on the bus go...Bump, Thump, Thump. Bump, Thump, Thump. The wheels on the bus go, Thump. Bump. Bump. Getting dragged all through the town.🎶
 

They had a loving place to go to. Which makes it that much sadder. And no matter WHAT. They shouldn't have been killed. They should be happy young people. I just can't imagine what they went through. And the thought of your own mother killing you. That proves Lori has no feelings. IMO.
 
Woah!!!!!
So is Lori speaking now?




LIVE UPDATES​

12:11 p.m. Boyce explains the factors he considers in handing down a sentence including the likelihood to re-offend.

12:09 p.m. Boyce says he’s reviewed Idaho case law about whether Lori should go to prison and whether a long prison term would be appropriate.

12:07 p.m. Boyce says normally he would rely on other information from the PSI but she did not cooperate with the PSI investigator and intended to remain silence. She did not complete the packet or any court-ordered screenings. “That was your choice to not cooperate but it left me without additional information.”

12:05 p.m. Boyce says he has reviewed Lori’s criminal history. She has no prior criminal history but she has two additional charges pending in Arizona. “It is somewhat incredible in this case seeing you have gone from no criminal history in your life to first degree murder charges and additional counts in another state.”

12:04 p.m. Lori refers to Tamy as her “eternal” and “wonderful” friend.” She says they are resting in the arms of Jesus and looks forward to the day they are together in the arms of Jesus. Lori is dong speaking.

12:03 p.m. Lori says Tylee and JJ have visited her. They have told her she did nothing wrong and they know she loves them. She says JJ visited her and was an adult spirit and was very very tall. “He is busy, he is engaged and he is happy where he is. JJ’s life was short was it was meaningful.”

12:01 p.m. Lori says Tylee is free of pain now and her daughter experienced painful health often. “I am the only person on this earth who knows how much Tylee suffered in her life,” Lori says as she starts to cry. “She had pain every single day. She never felt good. Her body did not work right.”

12:00 p.m. Lori says she is homesick for heaven and it is more wonderful than we can possibly imagine. “I do not fear death but I look forward to it.” Lori says she did not want to return to her body when she died while in labor with Tylee. “As I stood in heaven, I did not want to go back because I was peaceful and happy and home. But then I was told by Jesus that I needed to go back that I had covenanted or promised to do before I was born.”

11:58 a.m. Lori says she died while in labor in Tylee. She says because of that, she’s had many angelic visitors and she can visit the spirit world. She says she knows her children are happy and busy in the spirit world. “Because of communication with my friend Tammy Daybell, I know she is very happy and extremely busy.”

11:56 a.m. Lori: “Jesus knows me. and Jesus Understands me. I mourn with all of you who mourn my children and Tammy. Jesus Christ knows the truth. Jesus Christ knows no one was murdered in this case. Accidental deaths happened. Suicides happened. Fatal side effects of medications happened.”

11:55 a.m. Judge asks Lori if she wants to address the court. Lori says she wants to speak. She begins by quoting John 8:7 “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast the stone.”

11:53 a.m. Thomas: “What do we have to do by giving a woman in her 70s to go before a parole board and ask to be released? There’s not a guarantee she will be released but that hope will drive progress in this case. In summation, we need to heal in order to have peace. Peace comes through love. We ask the court to show mercy and look to the future. We ask the court for a 20 years fixed term plus life indeterminate for all five counts concurrent.”

11:51 a.m. Thomas says Lori can help other inmates, change her habits and have hope if he gives her the sentence they recommend. “We can’t bring JJ back. We can’t bring Tylee back. We can’t bring Tammy back. We can try and bring others up who go to prison to a higher level then they are when they went in. I think that’s important. I think that’s a testament to JJ and to Tylee and to Tammy. I think that gives them something to carry on in the future.”

11:50 a.m. Thomas says Lori’s hope will benefit society. “In our opinion, if you give her fixed life you will essentially throw her away. She has no incentive to rehabilitate. There is no incentive to her or anyone else. The punishment is final and all encompassing. If you give her hope, we protect society by keeping her behind bars well into her 70s.”

11:49 a.m. Thomas explains the options the court has in issuing the sentence. “We would ask the court to sentence Ms. Vallow Daybell to a 20 years fixed term with an interminate term of life.”

11:48 a.m. “We have saved the life of the defendant,” Thomas says before saying nobody should take credit or be blamed for that. “We saved her life and that is a win for all humanity.”

11:46 a.m. Thomas talking about hope before pivoting to the items the judge keeps in mind while issuing a sentence. “First degree murder is first degree murder and conspiracy carries the same punishment,” Thomas says. “How are we going to heal the pain and devastation of this case to hope?”

11:45 a.m. “She has redeeming values. Kay Woodcock sang her praises today – that Lori was a great mom,” Thomas says. “There’s a lot of confusion and misunderstanding about how this ultimately came to pass and that’s probably not going to change any time soon. There will be a lot confusion and misunderstanding for a while.”

11:43 a.m. Thomas says Lori’s message is one of love and she’s a very misunderstood person. “People who truly know her know she’s about love. We didn’t always get along and our team has had a lot misunderstandings. But Lori’s overarching theme is about love. She is very different than who she plays on tv. She’s smart, insightful, witty.”

11:42 a.m. Thomas talks about knowing what would have happened with JJ and Tylee and Tammy’s students. “But we need peace through the hurt and that peace will only come through love and compassion. I hope each person touched by this case can heal and find some semblance of peace again because this world needs peace.”

11:40 a.m. Thomas admits there is devastation and destruction surrounding this case. “My heart aches – as does the rest of our team – for the victims. People are hurt. That hurt can sometimes be manifested as hate. I think Lori Daybell is the most hated woman in America right now and maybe in the world. That hate will never bring closure to the victims.”

11:39 a.m. Thomas says one day he went to his wife after talking about being a public defender. His wife said: “I don’t think Jesus Christ was a prosecutor. He is our greatest advocate. And now I sit next to Lori Vallow.” Thomas says his message is one of peace, love, joy and hope.

11:37 a.m. John Thomas says 20 years he was sworn into the bar and took an oath to uphold the Constitution. He says the state needs to prove the burden of proof in cases. He says he used to be a prosecutor and is now a public defender.

11:31 a.m. We are back in the courtroom. Lori just walked in with the sound of her ankle shackles heard across the courtroom. Her defense team will now give their recommendations and then Lori could speak.

10:54 a.m. We will now take a morning break for 30 minutes.

10:52 a.m. Wood: “What does justice for JJ, Tylee and Tammy require? It requires this defendant never has a chance for freedom because her victims never had that. What is the value of a life? Thank you.” Wood is done.

10:51 a.m. Wood asks for $50,000 fines on each murder count – total $250,000. Wood says the state has essentially asked for the maximum sentence under law.

10:49 a.m. Wood asks that Lori pay a $5,000 fine to the next-of-kin of the victims. He asks for restitution to be paid to the Department of Treasury – the money stolen in Social Security from the US Government.
 
So she didn't want to participate in any court-ordered screenings in order to help get her a lesser sentence? Once again, her self-imposed "deity" didn't do her any favors!

This summed up my thoughts on all her religious comments:
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Boyce says Lori destroyed family relationships, took people away who were loved, cared for and needed. "You may not believe to this day that you've done anything wrong but I don't believe a God in any religion would want to have this happened what happened here."
 
12:35 p.m. Judge tells Lori can appeal the sentence to the Idaho Supreme Court but it must be done within 42 days.

12:34 p.m. Lori also ordered to pay restitution and fines.

12:33 p.m. Three of the life sentences will run consecutively – meaning one after the other. The other two will be consurrent. Lori Vallow Daybell will never walk free again.

12:31 p.m. Grand theft charge – 5 years fixed, 5 years indeterminate.

12:30 p.m. All three conspiracy charges – life no parole on each.

12:29 p.m. Tylee murder – life no parole. JJ murder – life no parole.

12:28 p.m. Boyce ready to pronounce sentence. Lori and her attorneys rise.

12:27 p.m. Boyce says Lori destroyed family relationships, took people away who were loved, cared for and needed. “You may not believe to this day that you’ve done anything wrong but I don’t believe a God in any religion would want to have this happened what happened here.”

12:25 p.m. “JJ and Tylee’s lives were cut way too short because of you…It is a loss for everyone that you took them away from this world. It is the most shocking things I can imagine that a mother killed their own children and you simply have no remorse for it. There is no remorse for what you did.”

12:24 p.m. “Tammy Daybell was murdered as a result of your conspiracy. She was by all accounts a happy, healthy mother and wife and you were out shopping for wedding rings to marry her husband while she was still alive. You were planning a wedding. You haven’t shown any remorse for any of your actions.”

12:23 p.m. Boyce notes that during the trial when photos were shown of Lori and Chad in Hawaii while the kids were buried at Chad’s house, jurors showed disgust on their faces. Boyce says there are images he will never get out of his mind “and I was just looking at the pictures.”

12:22 p.m. Boyce tells Lori she used “blood money” to fund her lifestyle in Hawaii as police and the public were searching for her children. “You wanted to be excused and not have to watch the evidence and were find to let everyone else in the courtroom – including the jurors – sit through that.”

12:20 p.m. “You came here from east Idaho where I’ve spent my life and came here from somewhere else to make your children disappears. You removed your children, alienated them from friends and family. You moved to Rexburg – a community where you could find 1,000 random families to take your children – and you brought them here to murder them. You had so many other options. You chose the most evil and destructive path possible. You killed those children to remove them as obstacles and profit financially. You justified all this to go down a bizarre religious rabbit hole and clearly you are still there.”

12:18 p.m. Boyce says he learned and saw all the facts with the jurors during Lori’s trial. “Having considered all the evidence I saw at trial, it’s been a difficult task for me to narrow down and articulate all the aggravating factors because there are so many here.”

12:16 p.m. Boyce says he will not comment on Chad as his trial has not happened yet. Boyce says typically people without a criminal history are often given probation or a chance to prove themselves. “You’ve been convicted of and committed the more serious crimes possible and those crimes deserve the most serious punishment.”

12:13 p.m. Boyce commends Lori for being a good inmate in the Madison County Jail. She has served over 1,000 days. He tells her she has been respectful of the court. “You do have mental health issues. I’ve dealt with those throughout the context of this case. I have reviewed those reports. The most current diagnosis the court has is from February of this year, which shows she suffers from delusion disorder with hyper religiosity and personality disorder.

12:11 p.m. Boyce explains the factors he considers in handing down a sentence including the likelihood to re-offend.

12:09 p.m. Boyce says he’s reviewed Idaho case law about whether Lori should go to prison and whether a long prison term would be appropriate.

12:07 p.m. Boyce says normally he would rely on other information from the PSI but she did not cooperate with the PSI investigator and intended to remain silence. She did not complete the packet or any court-ordered screenings. “That was your choice to not cooperate but it left me without additional information.”
 
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12:35 p.m. Judge tells Lori can appeal the sentence to the Idaho Supreme Court but it must be done within 42 days.

12:34 p.m. Lori also ordered to pay restitution and fines.

12:33 p.m. Three of the life sentences will run consecutively – meaning one after the other. The other two will be consurrent. Lori Vallow Daybell will never walk free again.

12:31 p.m. Grand theft charge – 5 years fixed, 5 years indeterminate.

12:30 p.m. All three conspiracy charges – life no parole on each.

12:29 p.m. Tylee murder – life no parole. JJ murder – life no parole.

12:28 p.m. Boyce ready to pronounce sentence. Lori and her attorneys rise.

12:27 p.m. Boyce says Lori destroyed family relationships, took people away who were loved, cared for and needed. “You may not believe to this day that you’ve done anything wrong but I don’t believe a God in any religion would want to have this happened what happened here.”

12:25 p.m. “JJ and Tylee’s lives were cut way too short because of you…It is a loss for everyone that you took them away from this world. It is the most shocking things I can imagine that a mother killed their own children and you simply have no remorse for it. There is no remorse for what you did.”

12:24 p.m. “Tammy Daybell was murdered as a result of your conspiracy. She was by all accounts a happy, healthy mother and wife and you were out shopping for wedding rings to marry her husband while she was still alive. You were planning a wedding. You haven’t shown any remorse for any of your actions.”

12:23 p.m. Boyce notes that during the trial when photos were shown of Lori and Chad in Hawaii while the kids were buried at Chad’s house, jurors showed disgust on their faces. Boyce says there are images he will never get out of his mind “and I was just looking at the pictures.”

12:22 p.m. Boyce tells Lori she used “blood money” to fund her lifestyle in Hawaii as police and the public were searching for her children. “You wanted to be excused and not have to watch the evidence and were find to let everyone else in the courtroom – including the jurors – sit through that.”

12:20 p.m. “You came here from east Idaho where I’ve spent my life and came here from somewhere else to make your children disappears. You removed your children, alienated them from friends and family. You moved to Rexburg – a community where you could find 1,000 random families to take your children – and you brought them here to murder them. You had so many other options. You chose the most evil and destructive path possible. You killed those children to remove them as obstacles and profit financially. You justified all this to go down a bizarre religious rabbit hole and clearly you are still there.”

12:18 p.m. Boyce says he learned and saw all the facts with the jurors during Lori’s trial. “Having considered all the evidence I saw at trial, it’s been a difficult task for me to narrow down and articulate all the aggravating factors because there are so many here.”

12:16 p.m. Boyce says he will not comment on Chad as his trial has not happened yet. Boyce says typically people without a criminal history are often given probation or a chance to prove themselves. “You’ve been convicted of and committed the more serious crimes possible and those crimes deserve the most serious punishment.”

12:13 p.m. Boyce commends Lori for being a good inmate in the Madison County Jail. She has served over 1,000 days. He tells her she has been respectful of the court. “You do have mental health issues. I’ve dealt with those throughout the context of this case. I have reviewed those reports. The most current diagnosis the court has is from February of this year, which shows she suffers from delusion disorder with hyper religiosity and personality disorder.

12:11 p.m. Boyce explains the factors he considers in handing down a sentence including the likelihood to re-offend.

12:09 p.m. Boyce says he’s reviewed Idaho case law about whether Lori should go to prison and whether a long prison term would be appropriate.

12:07 p.m. Boyce says normally he would rely on other information from the PSI but she did not cooperate with the PSI investigator and intended to remain silence. She did not complete the packet or any court-ordered screenings. “That was your choice to not cooperate but it left me without additional information.”
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