JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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Yeah barefoot it seems until they bought shoes or a possibility. I just wonder if like many of their things if this was their original plan or it changed... Kind of dumb to take her dead ex's phone with her... She liked to call Alex an idiot and can't do anything right but I don't think Lori's any brainiac either. She can act for those who fall for a couple of certain things or fall by the head of their storm. But that's about all I see. I mean she did get some puzzles on the Wheel but she wasn't the big winner lol. Do you recall if she took Charles' car to take JJ to school? For some reason I think so OR was going to OR had to move it to get out or some such....
Yes I think Tylee took him out to Charles' car. There's a video of Lori and Tylee returning and being interviewed and the video of them at Burger King so we can see the car they are in.
 
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I believe so but I think it is because if you are guilty of conspiracy to commit you then are guilty of the murder. And murder get the DP in ID and these are aggravating factors:

Idaho: Idaho Statute 19-2515

(1) The defendant was previously convicted of another murder.
(2) At the time the murder was committed the defendant also committed another murder.
(3) The defendant knowingly created a great risk of death to many persons.
(4) The murder was committed for remuneration or the promise of remuneration or the defendant employed another to commit the murder for remuneration or the promise of remuneration.
(5) The murder was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel, manifesting exceptional depravity.
(6) By the murder, or circumstances surrounding its commission, the defendant exhibited utter disregard for human life.
(7) The murder was committed in the perpetration of, or attempt to perpetrate, arson, rape, robbery, burglary, kidnapping or mayhem and the defendant killed, intended a killing, or acted with reckless indifference to human life.
(8) The murder was committed in the perpetration of, or attempt to perpetrate, an infamous crime against nature, lewd and lascivious conduct with a minor, sexual abuse of a child under sixteen (16) years of age, ritualized abuse of a child, sexual exploitation of a child, sexual battery of a minor child sixteen (16) or seventeen (17) years of age, or forcible sexual penetration by use of a foreign object, and the defendant killed, intended a killing, or acted with reckless indifference to human life.
(9) The defendant, by his conduct, whether such conduct was before, during or after the commission of the murder at hand, has exhibited a propensity to commit murder which will probably constitute a continuing threat to society.
(10) The murder was committed against a former or present peace officer, executive officer, officer of the court, judicial officer or prosecuting attorney because of the exercise of official duty or because of the victim’s former or present official status.
(11) The murder was committed against a witness or potential witness in a criminal or civil legal proceeding because of such proceeding.


I think #4 particularly applies as does 5 big time. Even number 8 is interesting, ritualized abuse of a child...

I'll do this right and official in that I will give the link to the site I pulled this from

Nate weigh d in on this last night and it’s still clear as mud. You can get the death penalty for conspiracy under aggravating circumstances. And then there’s a list of aggravating circumstances. Personally, I think the death penalty will only come in clear when it comes to Tammy‘s death. Chad admits to being there when she died.
 
Yeah barefoot it seems until they bought shoes or a possibility. I just wonder if like many of their things if this was their original plan or it changed... Kind of dumb to take her dead ex's phone with her... She liked to call Alex an idiot and can't do anything right but I don't think Lori's any brainiac either. She can act for those who fall for a couple of certain things or fall by the head of their storm. But that's about all I see. I mean she did get some puzzles on the Wheel but she wasn't the big winner lol. Do you recall if she took Charles' car to take JJ to school? For some reason I think so OR was going to OR had to move it to get out or some such....
I don’t recall her having his car. I just remember her having his phone.
 
I love how they bring these witnesses up in the order that they have them. They don’t drone on day after day with scientific evidence, they pepper it with people who knew the victims. Yesterday they had three witnesses in a row that Tammy worked with and saw the day before she died. All of them said she was in excellent health. Why did Tammy’s children say she wasn’t? That’s what gets me.
 
I had to look it up because I was that curious. Looks like you can!

(1) Except as provided in section 19-2515A, Idaho Code, a person convicted of murder in the first degree shall be liable for the imposition of the penalty of death if such person killed, intended a killing, or acted with reckless indifference to human life, irrespective of whether such person directly committed the acts that caused death.
Hadn't read this far til now. Was done for last night but same thing I found in looking, different site but same info for most part.
 
I'm not convinced of that and they and the church certainly knew all the nonmurder stuff like about all the Julie Rowes, Melanie Gibbs, Chad Daybells, Preparing the People, Avow and a lot more that a ton more members were wrapped up into big time. Jmo.

As to his ward, his SIL sure knew and tried to sound the alarms. But she was disbelieved and thought to be the one in the wrong as if Chad was some prince. Maybe a male thing...? Certainly that does exist in the LDS to this day.... Jmo. Funny anyone should back him over here when they lived there first and he never had...

I agree though with the zombies and DEAD and it was a raccoon but there is plenty to hang Chad here and give him the DP and the trial is barely underway. Imo. HIs own mother and brother maybe didn't like go all out but testified against him brought by the prosecution and were prosecution witnesses as was his SIL Heather. His mother apologized to his SIL back when. His dad never did but again I guess we have that male LDS thing.

I've seen a LOT on all this way of things and not just in this case. Even a few here-- though most I've seen are outside of here but here, Elena Fisher for instance, do I have the name right. They always try to make it that it is fundamentalist or a breakoff group but I don't buy that for a minute. Just like this bunch in this case, they all met in and went to and continued to the temple and so on.

You are I believe at least my age, do you not remember the government huge come down on UT and the LDS and polygamy and more? I do.
They didn't stop anything they had to "appear to" and most went underground. And the anti government thing? Well all goes back to that and more. Lori's dad was anti governent. (Heck dont' get me wrong I think we should all take the same stacne these days) but we don't.

And another entire side to all of it just about THE CHURCH, the churches rivaling gold fixtures and pizzaz like Vegas casinos but beyond there have been huge scandals and HUGE money fraud things by the Chuch at the TOP. The story barely breaks and then goes out of the news. IN THIS LAST YEAR. It is ALL about power and mostly MONEY. Just like Chad and Lori.

Money is a huge thing even to their members and only certain jobs can be taken and more...

I'm a Christian. I'm a Lutheran. I can probably be okay with being nondemonitional but Christian to a point. I live under no such strictures, watch list, don't have to date only in my ward, only work certain jobs or have my life impeded. I could go on. It's a CULT. Like Scientology. It's a scheme. And on one hand they are trying to keep things from coming out and have a TON of power, AND MONEY, at the same time even having that power like in this case (and THEY DO imo) people are learning more and those even raised in it as more comes out in this day and age they have people LEAVING. Or trying to leave but then losing their children. Like I said Ian has went it sounds like NO belief in any religion or God, so has Lori's cousin. I think that's one extreme to the other personally but I can understand it. And these were people RAISED in IT.

They TRACK their people. THEY are in control of many things in their lives.

Okay. Been a week.

I want to reiterate I don't mean anyone who is LDS is bad. We are raised in what we are raised in, we have brain cells, we get older. We question. I do. I maintain my faith. I don't necessarily believe every mankind change or interpretation of it and there are a thousand ways and people who do such or more but I know there is something way bigger than us. This I have basically never doubted. I have railed against why such power can't save a child etc. But this is no science thing this life. Science wouldn't exist nor would the things that create such without someone or something having created them. It's the chicken and the egg and what came first. Really truly think about that and drive yourself nuts. I started to at about the age of I don't know 2nd grade, 1st? I asked my Sunday School Teacher where God came from. And she was nonplussed. I think I got well he just IS she said. And I said but everything has to come from somewhere and everybody. How did HE come to be? ANd that started my lifelong no answers. Did we come from some sonic BOOM or earth did or life did? Okay, well who the heck or what the heck created the things that made that BOOM? The elements? The did not just exist. This is all mankind stuff. There is no END to any line of thinking. It is circular. Before there was nothing and then there was something but that had to come from something and somewhere. NOTHINGNESS is even a human thought. No one in my entire life and now I am how many decades old has every totally got what I mean. If there was NOTHING at one time non-existent or there was nothing well how could nothingness come up with anything. NO there is no this chemical or element because THEY HAD to be created or come from somewhere or someone. Nothing can come to be from something else and what was before that had to come to be from something. Oh it came from this chemical or this thing well no because that is mankind's limited brain--there will be no elements no things, as they had to come from somewhere or be exlained. Explain it, it cannot be explained. And that's why... And I know some will not get my point here. Nothingness is even just a concept, a human one. So is science.

Oh boy have I had a week. Reall wanting to defuse, talk, catch up.

It's like and some have new nieces, nephews, grandchildren younger than mine, etc. And any of us when kids were younger know that why, why, why of a two year old, sometimes into three. WEl that's what this is in its way.

You don't believe in God or a POWER BIGGER THAN US well you tell me what you believe and I will take it apart and dismantle it.

So we came from apes? Where did they come from? Oh from this? Where did that come from? Drive yourself nuts with it everyone, I have my entire life. From a very young age.

But I have seen and believe and no I am not being a Julie Rowe or Chad or Lori, there is something bigger than us. I don't try to SELL the fact, use the fact, expect anyone else to believe the fact, but I've had things that bring me great comfort when most needed. And imo show me there is something or someone (a human concept again) much bigger than us and some purpose.

I can also tell you even though I've had questions my entire life I believe because of things like this at the worst of times that I know I could never have gotten through my life if I didn't. I feel for anyone who does not believe there is something more because that's the ONLY thing that saves me and has my entire life at my lowest moments. And I'm not church going, acitive, nor overly any such way. I believe I will see my dad, my brothers and mk grandbaby again and I won't go into the countless aunts, uncles, grandparents, friends. With the closets ones and the most hurt, I have SEEN miracle signs to comfort and show they are okay. Not every single loss, but the ones that are the closest and hardest and most needed, they FIND a way or are allowed to with something just specific to what you would know. I also saw it with my ex and his dad and as there to witness it. You cannot explain this stuff.

Boy, sorry. Been quite the few weeks. But Chad, Lori and that church, Julie Rowe, etc. nope. Cons.

I was thinking recently that maybe Chad is fine with prison if it becomes that way because he wants to top Warren Jeffs who apparently still runs his group from prison and they go on and do his sh*t. NOW what is wrong with our system that such could even GO ON??

of course Google it and LDS says he is not a member and never was but he runs the fundamentalist if you dig deeper LDS thing. Bull.

They were ALL polygamists and more this church all founded on kind of what Chad did and Jeffs. Let's have a vision and then make rules to get what we most desire in life.

Some will probably say and of course I am long weeked and tired and have went on but that I am being whatever but I am older than many here and I REMEMBER what went on with this religion and how they had no CHOICE but to pretend to change or go underground. On the surface it changed. I was a MINOR and I RECALL it.

Okay okay. Have to get Snit off the balcony and shut the door.
They have sent Voyager 1 and 2 out into space and they have travelled billions of miles so far and have not even got to another solar system yet but have still not apparently found any other form of life out there. They are still travelling further out. Earth is unique so far.
 
Thursday 8th - afternoon update.

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Please excuse the typos. These are live updates from the courtroom.

1:49 p.m. Join me tonight on ‘Courtroom Insider’ tonight at 6:30 p.m. You can find it on my Facebook page and the EastIdahoNews.com YouTube channel.

1:47 p.m. Boyce wants to clarify something about exhibits. He raised a concern with counsel about markings when the trial started. Vallow was mentioned on the markings and Boyce wanted the name removed so jurors would not speculate about her involvement. Boyce says there doesn’t appear to be any cause for speculation with the exhibits so they can now be admitted without redactions.

1:46 p.m. Court is finished for the day as there is some maintenance being done on the courtroom tomorrow. Boyce says there is a brief issue that needs to be discussed outside the presence of the jury.

1:42 p.m. Prior has no questions. Pam is excused.

1:41 p.m. Pam says Tammy had lost some weight and “I was a little jealous of that. She looked good and was happy she felt better and had changed some of her habits.” Wixom has nothing further. Prior will now question the witness.

1:39 p.m. Pam was with Tammy on Thursday at recess duty speaking with her and watching her with the kids. “I saw nothing wrong with her so I was shocked” when she learned of Tammy’s death. Pam thought Tammy was quite healthy. She had been training for a race, according to Pam, and on the Thursday before her death, they spoke about it. “She had told me she felt she was in the best health of her life. She had been eating better and losing some weight and training. She said very good about her health.”

1:38 p.m. “She was a good friend as well as a co-worker,” Pam says. Tammy would engage with the children during play time and make sure they were ok. She was very involved with the kids. Pam learned about Tammy’s passing from another teacher.

1:37 p.m. Pam worked with Tammy for 2-3 years. She saw Tammy around the school every day because she was running around doing her library and computer stuff with the children. Pam was at recess duty twice a week with Tammy. “Tammy would be able to run around with them and interact with them. She knew each child by name – all of them in the school. She loved the children and they loved her very much,” Pam says through tears.

1:35 p.m. Pamela Peebles is the next witness. Rocky Wixom is questioning her. Pam lives in Rigby and works at Central Elementary in Sugar City. She is a Title One teacher – she helps children not on grade level in their reading.

1:34 p.m. Prior asks if there were preparations for the book fair the next week. Gee doesn’t remember. Prior asks if Tammy kept to herself about her personal life. “Not really. I wouldn’t say that,” Gee says. Prior has nothing further. No more questions from the prosecutor. Gee is excused from her subpoena.

1:33 p.m. Gee received a text message from the principal the next day that Tammy had died. “I was shocked. Shocked. I didn’t see any indication that she was sick,” Gee says. Batey has nothing further. Prior will now cross examine.

1:32 p.m. Gee spoke with Tammy between 3:20-3:30 p.m. the day before Tammy died. They spoke about one of Gee’s students. Tammy was very animated, friendly and kind. “I didn’t see any health issues. We talked just like I would on a regular day,” Gee says, describing Tammy’s energy level as “great.”

1:31 p.m. Gee and Tammy worked together for around three years. During this testimony, Chad is scrolling with his mouse on the computer in front of him.

1:29 p.m. Next witness is Tammy Gee. She works at Central Elementary in Sugar City and has worked there for 14 years. She teaches kindergarten. Ingrid Batey is questioning her.

1:28 p.m. Prior has nothing further. No re-direct. She is released from her subpoena.

1:27 p.m. Prior asks about the book fair Tammy was preparing for the day before she died. He asks if it was a significant endeavor to prepare for the fair. Janet says the book fair wasn’t until the next week so there wasn’t a lot of extra work that needed to be done on that Friday.

1:26 p.m. Prior asks if Janet agrees that Tammy’s one confident at the school was Emma. Janet says she doesn’t agree with that – she had lots of friends at the school and would chat with others. Prior asks if Tammy and Emma spent a lot of time together when they had down time. Janet says she doesn’t think they did.

1:25 p.m. Prior asks Janet if she remembers speaking with Officer Mattingly. She asks who that is. She explains an officer came by the office to take a report. Prior asks about Janet telling police that Tammy kept to herself. She explains that she kept to herself because she wanted to do her job and work. She never said personal things to Janet.

1:24 p.m. Wixom asks Janet if she noticed if Tammy gained or lost any weight. She doesn’t think so. She was always on the go where she needed to be. Wixom has nothing further. Prior will now cross examine.

1:23 p.m. Janet last saw Tammy at 3:45 p.m. the day before she died. Janet didn’t notice anything wrong with her and “she seemed like she had energy no matter what time of day it was. She was just always on the go.”

1:22 p.m. “I thought, ‘How could this be? I just barely saw her Friday at 3:45. She was laughing, she was happy, she was talking about putting up curtains in the computer lab. It was really quite a shock. I didn’t know how it could happen,” Janet says. Tammy and Emma stopped at the office on the way out to tell her about the curtains in the computer lab.

1:20 p.m. Tammy was never sick. She never had a cough or sniffle or limp – nothing that Janet noticed. Tammy never complained about her health. “She was the Energizer bunny. She was everywhere and did everything she needed to. She never quit and was always where she needed to be.” She did lunchroom duty, computer lab, recess duty.

1:19 p.m. Janet saw Tammy several times every day. Tammy would often visit the office. She says everybody loved Tammy. She was very friendly and nice to everyone.

1:16 p.m. Next witness is Janet Andersen. Rocky Wixom will question her. Janet lives in St. Charles, Idaho, by Bear Lake. She used to live in Lyman, near Rexburg. Janet was the secretary at Central Elementary in Sugar City.

1:15 p.m. Wood has nothing further. Dean is done but will remain under subpoena just in case he needs to be called again.

1:13 p.m. Prior has no further questions. Wood has some re-direct. Wood asks if Dean was provided with devices for the entire length of the Daybell marriage. Dean says he was not.

1:12 p.m. Prior asks Dean if he looked at other devices Tammy Daybell may have had. Dean says no. Prior asks if Dean was aware Tammy communicated with her children about locating and finding raccoons. Wood objects and says this misstates prior testimony. Boyce sustains objection.

1:10 p.m. Dean says the outgoing messages on Tammy’s phone ended Oct. 18, 2019. There were some ingoing messages afterward. Prior asks Dean how long Tammy and Chad were married. Dean doesn’t know the exact amount. Prior asks if Dean evaluated all the text messages from their entire marriage. Dean did not.

1:08 p.m. Prior asks Dean if the mention of animals in communication with Tammy was unusual. Dean says it happened a few times.

1:07 p.m. Prior begins by asking Dean if he reviewed Chad’s phone too. He did not – just Tammy’s. Prior asks if there were frequent discussions between Tammy and other members of her family. Dean says yes. There were three people living in the Daybell home – Tammy, Chad and Garth.

1:06 p.m. “Chad told Tammy he started a fire, shot a large animal and buried that large animal – he did those things on the day after Tylee Ryan was last seen alive,” Dean says. Wood has no further questions.

1:04 p.m. Dean says this message was the only one on the device where Chad wrote to Tammy “such a lengthy and detailed explanation of his days events.” The date caught Dean’s attention because his first assignment in the investigation was to review tips about JJ and Tylee. “After having reviewed hundreds of photographs and video files taken all across Yellowstone National Park on the 8th of September 2019, I was very much aware that date was the last day Tylee Ryan was seen alive.”

1:03 p.m. The first message stood out to Dean because it was longer and more detailed than any other messages that were exchanged between Tammy and Chad. “Messages sent between the two were relatively short and they dealt with routine matters, household matters, things of that nature,” Dean says.

1:02 p.m. Tammy sent a message to Chad at 1:47 p.m. “Good for you.” Chad sent a message to Tammy at 1:48 p.m. “I’m back home now.”

1:01 p.m. Chad sent a second message to Tammy the same day at 10:56 a.m. “Gonna shower now and then go write for a while at BYU. Love you.”

1 p.m. The message was sent on Sept. 9, 2019 at 10:53 a.m.

12:54 p.m. Dean looks at the exhibit and Wood asks to publish. It’s a message Chad sent to Tammy: “I’ve had an interesting morning! I felt I should burn all of the limb debris by the fire pit before it got too soaked by the coming storm. While I did so, I spotted a big raccoon along the fence. I hurried and got my gun, and he was still walking along. I got close enough that one shot did the trick. He is now in our pet cemetery. Fun times!”

12:50 p.m. Back in the courtroom. Dean remains on the stand. Wood continues to question.
Coworker after coworker saw Tammy the day before healthy, fine, not I'll and one says Tammy said she felt in the best health of her life. One after another just HOURS before her death. Speaks VOLUMES.

Yet Emma is likely to get on the stand and lie and say otherwise. You know what? She's right. She definitely is NOT Colby.

I am not or have not been a total Colby fan, I watched their channel back when throughout, but considering what he comes from and what he went through and what he lost and how he struck me at this trial, he will make it and has matured too. Emma and the Daybell bunch, well, I don't see it... Maybe some have, we shall have to see. Emma? Not even close imo. I hope she does some serious thinking before she testifies but I don't think that is going to happen. She's dad's helpmate no matter what. Yes, Emma, you are no COLBY as you said. OR you said "we" aren't meaning you and all siblings. You're right. You aren't. And that's NOT a compliment. Except to Colby.
 
Friday 10th - morning update.

Warning - some graphic testimony​

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Please excuse the typos. These are live updates from the courtroom.

11:55 a.m. Chad told Samantha that Tammy visited her at the cemetery and told him he needs to move on. Samantha replied, “When most women say that, they mean two years – not two weeks after they died.” Blake has no further questions. Boyce suggests we have lunch break until 1 p.m. Be back then.

11:53 a.m. Chad got married two weeks after Tammy was buried. Samantha learned about other names associated with Lori Vallow — JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan. Samantha called Chad and asked, “Please tell me about this woman that you’ve replaced my sister with.” Samantha asked about the name difference – Ryan versus Vallow. Chad said Lori had a complicated past and wanted to move on. Prior asks the judge for context of when the call took place and Samantha quickly says, “It took place Dec. 13.”

11:52 a.m. A month after Tammy died, Jason and Samantha reached out to Chad. They learned his new wife’s name was Lori Ryan (that’s what Chad said). Chad said Lori’s previous husband had died of a heart attack and that’s why they connected. “He told me they both had lost a spouse and that was why they met up,” Samantha says.

11:50 a.m. Samantha hosted a dinner for Chad and his kids before their mom’s viewing. They never showed up. Chad told Samantha he had more information about Tammy’s passing so she could have comfort about her death. They were supposed to talk after the funeral but Chad made himself unavailable.

11:49 a.m. Tammy was buried in Springville and that surprised Samantha because Chad and her kids lived in Rexburg. Samantha asked Chad why they were burying her in Springville. Chad said, “We are covered with snow and ice most of the year and you will take good care of her.” Chad requested that his name not be on Tammy’s headstone. “I found that odd for somebody that was heavily into family history to not do so. To leave that off would mean someone further down the line would not connect him to her.”

11:47 a.m. Samantha saw Tammy in April, June, July and October of 2019. Tammy never complained of any health issues other than her wrist hurting. She seemed fine and healthy. Samantha asked Chad in a phone call after Tammy died if he was going to do an autopsy. He said no and the coroner told him “she looked peaceful and it looked liked natural causes.” Chad also said it would cost him $1,500 and would hold things up. They wanted to get the funeral done quickly.

11:44 a.m. Tammy never gave any indication that Chad was having an affair. During an event in June 2019, Tammy and Chad stayed at Samantha’s home. Chad seemed like he didn’t want to talk and didn’t want to be there, which was unusual for him. In July, Tammy showed up at Samantha’s house about 10:30 p.m. two days before Samantha’s birthday with a present. It was odd because Tammy usually went to bed early and Chad stayed in the van the entire time Tammy was in the house. Samantha was not aware of any falling out.

11:43 a.m. Tammy traveled alone. That was not normal for Tammy. She didn’t like to drive the long distance by herself so normally someone came with her. Chad was usually with her and he had family still living in Springville. There was nothing about her health that would prevent her from driving long distances.

11:42 a.m. Samantha never saw Tammy have an adverse reaction to homeopathic medicines. Tammy would share her health challenges with Samantha and Samantha says Tammy took case of her health. “It was something she was very focused on.” The visit in October 2019 was last-minute. Tammy texted Samantha and asked if she would be around that weekend.

11:40 a.m. Tammy was 49 – “the same age that I am right now.” Samantha says Tammy wanted her sister to apply for a theater teaching job in Idaho so they could be near each other. They wanted to live near each other. “It was our joke that we would be old ladies together living side by side,” Samantha says through tears.

11:38 a.m. Samantha had seen Tammy two weeks earlier and was just fine. They had a small Facebook group where they would check in with each other to make sure they were healthy. Samantha says during that visit, Tammy was really happy and they did a mini-talent show for their parents. Tammy did her clogging and Samantha did some stage combat because she was teaching theater classes. Tammy was not short of breath or having any medical issues.

11:37 a.m. As part of Chad’s employment after he and Tammy got married, he was involved in digging graves. He became the sexton. Blake asks Samantha how she found out Tammy had died. “I received a phone call from Chad that morning,” Samantha says, holding back tears. Chad told Samantha that Tammy was really sick, had a coughing fit, threw up and then fell out of bed. This didn’t make sense to Samantha.

11:36 a.m. Chad told Samantha that he had a vision they should move to Idaho. Samantha thought about it because she didn’t want to be separated from her sister. Samantha read an email Chad sent saying she had evil spirits keeping her from moving to Idaho and that she should be up there. “It made me very unhappy.”

11:35 a.m. Tammy and Chad have five kids and they have grandkids. Samantha says Tammy did not want to move to Idaho at the beginning. Before moving to Idaho, she worked at Springville High School and at an elementary school before. As Samantha testifies, their brother wipes tears from his eyes.

11:34 a.m. Samantha remembers when Chad and Tammy started dating. Samantha liked Chad. He was a good husband and father. Chad and Jason were close. They all lived in the same neighborhood and at one time, across the street from each other.

11:32 a.m. Blake moves to admit a photo of her sister Tammy. It is shown to the jury and courtroom. Samantha says there are 5 kids – 2 girls and 3 boys. Tammy was the second oldest. There was four years between them but they were best friends. They were close into adulthood. They saw each other or talked almost every day.

11:31 a.m. Blake asks if it was common for Tammy to have a pet cemetery. Samantha says absolutely – they have had pets in their family for years and when they pass away, they would be buried on their property. Tammy continued to have pets into her adult life.

11:29 a.m. The first exhibit shows a photo of Chad’s property. Blake asks if Tammy had a pet cemetery. Samantha says she did and explains two posts in the middle of the picture. To the right is the fire pit and the barn is in the back of the photo. We see another closer image of the fire pit and pet cemetery.

11:27 a.m. Samantha has visited Tammy’s house. Blake moves to admit two exhibits.

11:25 a.m. Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy’s sister, is the next witness. Blake will be questioning her.

11:24 a.m. Prior asks about the recording and Chad saying “simple situation.” Prior suggests it was a custody matter and that may have been why Chad said that – that he thought it was a custody matter because they had a family law attorney. Wixom objects, Boyce sustains. Prior has nothing further.

11:23 a.m. Wixom asks if Tylee and JJ being buried in Chad’s backyard was a “simple situation.” Jason says, “That is far from a simple situation. Wixom has nothing further. Prior will now re-cross.

11:21 a.m. Wixom asks Jason if he ever had concerns about Chad’s book publishing company. Jason says he was worried about one particular author that Chad pushed. He does not say the author’s name.

11:19 a.m. Wixom asks if any law enforcement ever tried to influence what he would say. Jason says no. He says their primary concern was can we find some children. Jason says he never saw any desire from Chad and Lori to find the kids. Jason gave the phone number of the attorney to law enforcement.

11:17 a.m. Wixom asks Jason if he’s concerned that he wasn’t informed about Tammy’s exhumation. Jason says he would have liked to know but is not concerned he wasn’t. Wixom asks Jason how many law enforcement contacts he has had regarding Chad. Jason says 20ish – maybe more. He doesn’t know an exact number.

11:16 a.m. Prior has nothing further. Wixom is now back up for re-direct.

11:13 a.m. Prior asks about visions and the LDS faith. “I would say most people don’t have expressive visions. I think people have general inspiration in regards to their lives and what they might do. They probably might not express them as much,” Jason says.

11:11 a.m. Prior asks about the family prayer and Chad’s emotions. Jason is asked if he’s read Chad’s books. Jason has read a few. His understanding, when he first read them, is they were stories he had just made up. Chad later told him the books are based on events that will occur.

11:10 a.m. Prior asks about the visit Jason had with Chad at BYU-Idaho in Rexburg. Prior asks if they went to the library. Jason doesn’t recall. Prior asks if Chad went to the library on the regular basis. Jason doesn’t know his habits.

11:09 a.m. Prior asks if there is a familial relationship between Jason and Steve Schultz. Jason says they are not related. They have known each other about 12 years and Steve is a good man.

11:07 a.m. Prior asks Jason about Chad’s comment concerning the “simple situation.” Jason doesn’t know what Chad meant by that. Prior asks about the comment Chad made concerning an officer “harassing Leah.” Leah is Chad’s third child who lived in Idaho at the time.

11:04 a.m. Prior asks Jason if he knew how long the exhumation took. Jason says he currently believes it took around 24 hours. He didn’t know back when the exhumation occurred. Jason says he doesn’t think anyone in the Douglas family knew about the exhumation.

11:02 a.m. Jason says the only person who stood out in the group was the person who said he was with the FBI. Jason thought that was unusual because you don’t usually deal with the FBI. Prior asks about the comment Lori made about having a family attorney. Jason got the impression there was a civil situation going on with the missing kids because they gave the attorney’s name.

11:01 a.m. Prior asks what police officers were at the Springville Police Department when Jason went and spoke with law enforcement on Dec. 18, 2019. Prior asks if Rob Wood “the gentleman in the red tie” attended the interview. Jason doesn’t know.

10:59 a.m. Jason says he did not see Chad and his family as much in 2019. Prior asks Jason what Tammy’s involvement was in relation to the publishing company. He was in Springville but not in Idaho.

10:56 a.m. In 2015, the Gwilliams did not go to Idaho but Chad and his family traveled down to Utah for medical appointments, etc. In 2016, Jason got the “censure” letter from Chad so they visited Idaho 3-4 times. The Daybells would also drive down to Utah. In 2017, similar patterns. In 2018, mission farewells, weddings and other events brought the family together.

10:55 a.m. Chad continued to write his books after moving to Rexburg, Gwilliam says. Gwilliam says Chad and Lori had a normal marital relationship. Gwilliam didn’t observe them as much in Idaho as he did in Utah.

10:53 a.m. Prior begins by asking about the close relationships Jason had with Chad. They both attended the same LDS ward. Prior asks if they held positions of authority. Jason doesn’t recall. Chad served as a counselor in the bishopric and in the Elders Quorum presidency. Chad began writing the books in 2006 through 2015. At the time, Jason said he had no concerns with Chad’s books.

10:51 a.m. Jason never had any missed calls, texts or emails from Chad. Jason eventually learned where JJ and Tylee were found. Wixom has no further questions. Prior will now conduct cross.

10:50 a.m. Jason seems to have lost the phone signal with Chad and Lori and the call disconnects. That was the last communication Chad and Jason ever had. Jason tried to call Chad again after the first of the year but was unsuccessful.

10:46 a.m. Jason asks if Chad’s kids have plans for Christmas. Jason and Chad discuss their plans. Chad asks Jason if he heard about Tammy’s autopsy. Chad said they did the autopsy on one day last Wednesday – a week ago. “I have not heard a thing,” Chad says. Jason said someone told him to check out the cemetery the previous week. Jason asks Chad and Lori if they have anything planned for Christmas. Chad says they are not going to Idaho.

10:45 a.m. Lori says she isn’t sure if the detective is being paid off. Lori says to tell officers, “We’ve been instructed by our family attorney not to talk to police.” Jason had no concerns about talking to police. Ron and Phyllis are Tammy’s parents.

10:44 a.m. Chad says if the police bother Ron and Phyllis, give them their attorneys number. Sean Bartholick was their lawyer. Lori says Det. Hope never calls them to ask them any questions but calls everyone else and bothers them. Chad says, “It’s like he’s circling us instead of talking to us directly.”

10:41 a.m. Jason felt, at that point, that it possibly was a smaller situation. Chad brings up Heather again and says he will text Jason the name of their attorney who is in Rexburg. Lori says Heather’s in-law, who is a detective, is bugging everyone. Jason says the police caught him off guard. Chad says this is different issue.

10:39 a.m. Jason wasn’t sure what Chad meant by the “Tammy situation.” Jason did not know of anything related to Tammy’s investigation at that point. Chad says “they are grasping at straws. I still feel Heather Daybell is behind this. She is an evil woman.” Jason doesn’t recall having a conversation with Heather at that point. Lori says Det. Hope is causing problems. Chad says “it’s a simple situation but we just can’t tell you because then you’d be involved.”

10:37 a.m. Jason wanted to get the name of the attorney to give to law enforcement. Jason asks about the kids. Lori says if the police show up, give them the attorneys name. Lori says it’s a bunch of people starting trouble for no reason. Chad says it’s separate from the Tammy situation.

10:35 a.m. Jason tells Chad people are asking questions about some kids. Jason says he doesn’t know anything. Chad says the police went to Leah’s house and tried to threaten her. Chad says they aren’t sure what they are trying to accomplish – it’s mainly one detective in Rexburg. Chad says they finally got a hold of an attorney in Rexburg.

10:34 a.m. Wixom plays a small portion of the call for Gwilliam to authenticate.

10:32 a.m. Gwilliam says he asked law enforcement to record the call because there might be information that might help find the missing kids. Gwilliam, Chad and Lori were on the call.

10:30 a.m. Back in the courtroom. Jurors are being brought in.

10:02 a.m. Morning recess now. Will be back in 25 minutes.

10:01 a.m. Law enforcement from the FBI, Madison County Sheriff’s Office, Fremont County Sheriff’s Office and Rexburg Police were there. Jason told police he would call Chad and asked officers to record the call. Chad answered. Wixom moves to admit the call.

10 a.m. Police told Jason they could not find the children. Jason was concerned because Chad had told him that Lori had older children, but there were minor children missing. Jason was also concerned that police could not get in touch with Chad and Lori.

9:58 a.m. Chad mentioned that on the day of Tammy’s funeral, his wife appeared to him and said it was time to move on – meaning get remarried. On Dec. 18, 2019, Jason received a call from law enforcement and met them at the Springville Police Department. Jason learned there were two missing kids affiliated with Lori and Chad.

9:56 a.m. The next contact Jason had with Chad was the day Tammy got exhumed. Chad texted and said he needed to talk with them. Samantha was on the phone, and it was on speaker. Chad asked Samantha and Jason if they knew Tammy had been exhumed and if they were responsible for it. Jason and Samantha did not know anything about it.

9:55 a.m. Chad told Jason that his kids knew he was going to be getting married before he went to Hawaii. Jason asked how they kept it a secret. Chad said, “My kids are good at keeping secrets.” He did not explain what he meant by that. Several jurors are taking notes.

9:54 a.m. A day or so later, Jason called Chad again. He wanted to know when Chad got married. Chad said he got married on Nov. 5. During their first call, Chad asked Jason not to tell anyone that he had been married. Jason said he needed to call Tammy’s parents and let them know.

9:52 a.m. Jason didn’t know what to say. He said, “Who is she?” Chad said her name was Lori Ryan, and she was 5’6″, 120 pounds, physically fit, worked out and an amazing person. Chad said Lori’s husband had died of a heart attack in 2019. Jason asked if she had kids. Chad said Lori had some grown children. At that point, Jason had never heard of JJ and Tylee. Jason wanted to know when Chad got married, but he did not share that.

9:51 a.m. Jason said no and Chad said Heather was spreading rumors about him in Rexburg. Click here to read Heather’s testimony from day 15 of the trial. Chad said it wasn’t important, but while he was in Hawaii, he got married. Jason was “very” surprised to hear Chad had gotten married. “It is not common to marry someone within a month – maybe – of a wife passing when he was as close as he was with his spouse.”

9:50 a.m. Around a month after the funeral, Jason reached out to Chad to see how he was doing. Chad asked Jason if he had been speaking to Heather Daybell, his sister-in-law (married to Matt Daybell, his brother). Jason was not close to Heather and was calling to check on Chad – not to talk about Heather.

9:48 a.m. Chad finally arrived and said he and the kids needed to get back to Rexburg for the memorial the next day. Jason said given his history with Chad, it was very unusual.

9:46 a.m. During the funeral, Jason was watching one of Chad’s grandchildren in the back. Jason didn’t get to observe as much as he would have liked. After the funeral, the family went to the cemetery and they were there for a while. Then the luncheon was held at the church. Everyone arrived and waited 25-30 minutes for Chad to arrive. Chad called and said to have the lunch start without him. Chad didn’t arrive for another 15 minutes. Chad was around 45 minutes late for the luncheon.

9:44 a.m. There was a viewing on Monday night and one on Tuesday morning. On Monday, Chad was busy greeting people so he and Jason didn’t have much time to interact. On Tuesday, there was a family prayer and Jason said it seemed “different and off.” Chad was rocking back and forth, side to side, and was “not crying but trying to cry.”

9:42 a.m. Jason says Chad just seemed “off.” “I didn’t feel like it was normal when someone lost a spouse but everybody does things different so I didn’t think anymore about it.” Jason and Steve Schultz picked up the body from the funeral home in Rexburg and drove Tammy to Utah.

9:41 a.m. Jason went with Steve Schultz, the mortician, from Springville to Rexburg to pick up Tammy’s body. Chad and his kids were at the house. Chad seemed relatively normal and there was not a lot of mourning. Jason asked Chad if he was ok and Chad said, “I’m fine. I’m all cried out.”

9:40 a.m. Jason asked Chad how Tammy died. Chad said Tammy rolled out of bed and he found her dead.

9:37 a.m. Tammy was healthy and happy, Jason says. He did not feel she had gained or lost any weight. Jason went home and hugged his wife after learning Tammy died. “I was devastated. You don’t know what you can do at that time but you want to do something.” Around 11 a.m. – noon on the day Tammy died, Jason and Chad spoke. They discussed getting in touch with a mortician, the head of the church congregation, the basic things you needed for a funeral. Chad said he wanted the funeral on Tuesday and Jason was surprised – he felt it was very quick.

9:36 a.m. Jason was running errands when he learned Tammy had died. Samantha calls him and Jason says he was “stunned.” “I had seen Tammy two weeks prior and it didn’t seem that somebody of her age in her condition should have passed.” Tammy came to Jason’s house and stayed. She came down to visit family and parents.

9:33 a.m. Jason says Tammy and Chad were a loving couple. Their interactions were fine and appropriate, Jason says. During the last year of Tammy’s life, Jason says they saw each other at a Christmas party in 2018. At one time, Chad and his family went to Utah. Chad, Tammy, Samantha and Jason were sitting in a hot tub. They were not engaging in the conversation with the group. Jason says it was different. Jason didn’t bring it up with Chad but said something to Samantha.

9:32 a.m. Jason says Tammy was not thrilled about going to Idaho. Tammy loved being around her family and had a good relationship with Samantha. She was happy in Springville and she had cousins, aunts, nieces and nephews. The majority of the family was there and they had a lot of interaction with each other.

9:31 a.m. After that visit, Jason had a gut feeling he was not supposed to be there. Jason told Chad he would not be coming up. Jason thought Tammy was a sweetheart. “She was a kind, gentle person. She had a lot of people’s best interest.”

9:29 a.m. Jason felt Chad was trying to control his family. When Jason and his family came to visit Chad in Idaho, Chad talked about how nice it was. In 2016, Chad showed Jason around Rexburg and BYU-Idaho. “He was showing me that this would be a place as a city of light and there would be a refuge for people to come. There would be tent cities and areas where he would expand his property and turn it into a tent city.”

9:27 a.m. Chad wrote Jason a letter in 2016 and told him that he needed to be in Idaho. He said there would be a huge earthquake within three years and Jason’s house would be destroyed. Chad told Jason that the dark spirits would allow Samantha to go south but she could not come to Idaho. Jason wasn’t thrilled when Chad said that. “I have a responsibility and stewardship over my family – that’s not Chad’s responsibility.”

9:26 a.m. Jason was curious and originally believed some of Chad’s visions. Jason didn’t feel it was right to move to Idaho. “There were things going on that, to me, it didn’t feel right.” Jason visited Idaho but it wasn’t a place where he wanted to move. Jason told Chad he wasn’t going to move. Chad asked them again to move. Jason would visit Idaho for family functions.

9:24 a.m. Jason said this was a fear tactic – “I know more than you and you should listen to me.” He says wars and rumors of wars create fears. Chad and his family moved to Idaho in 2015. Chad invited Jason and his family to move with him. Chad felt it would be good to have Jason and his family move to escape the earthquake and desolation that was going to happen in Utah. Chad said Rexburg would be a city of light and a place of refuge.

9:21 a.m. Wixom asks about Chad’s near-death experiences. Jason says the stories changed and became more elaborate. Jason was concerned that the stories were not consistent and became more of a narrative. Around 2013-2014, Chad told Jason there would be earthquakes, destruction in America, invading troops from different countries that would come into the Americas.

9:20 a.m. Jason says Chad’s religious views changed around 2006-2007 and he became hyper focused on preparing for end of times. It became an obsession and more than normal, Jason says. Chad told Jason he was experiencing visions around 2010-2011 about how things would play out in the last days.

9:18 a.m. Jason says Chad shared an experience one time about being in water in La Jolla, California where he was beat up with some rocks. Chad shared another experience about jumping off cliffs in Flaming Gorge, Utah where he felt like his spirit left his body. This conversation happened in the early 2000s.

9:17 a.m. Wixom asks if there was anything specific in his discussions with Chad where Chad shared concerned about his relationship with Tammy. “Just that it was a little vanilla. He said they had a lot of general routine that they go through,” Jason says.

9:16 a.m. Jason says he and Chad would talk about different issues about family, religion, just about anything. “I feel like we had some really deep conversations in regards to a number things as two friends and brothers-in-law would.”

9:14 a.m. Jason and his family would see Chad and his family at least once or twice a week. Jason and Chad saw each other up to four or five times a week. They went to the same church and Jason and Chad shared shops. Chad and Jason worked together for six months before Chad moved up to Idaho. “I feel Chad and I were very close.”

9:13 a.m. Jason worked with Chad and they lived near each other for years. They were pretty close before this case. Jason married Samantha in 1995.

9:12 a.m. Next witness is Jason Gwilliam – Tammy’s brother-in-law. Jason is married to Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy’s sister. Rocky Wixom will be questioning him.

9:11 a.m. Blake asks if asphyxiation could cause foam. Willmore says yes. There are no further questions and Willmore is released from the subpoena.

9:10 a.m. Blake asks Willmore if she looked at prescription medication. Willmore doesn’t recall seeing any. Willmore did not have the benefit of reviewing medical records and was going off information only provided by Chad. Willmore says she can’t be 100% sure of determining whether a bruise is new or old simply by looking at it – that would be determined during an autopsy.

9:09 a.m. Prior asks if someone has a heavy lung, could there be foaming at the mouth. Willmore knew about heart issues might cause foaming but she didn’t know enough about what could cause it. Prior is finished. Blake will now re-direct.

9:07 a.m. Prior asks about the bruises on Tammy’s arms. She says there maybe 2-3 total bruises – not enough to consider anything suspicious. They looked older.

9:05 a.m. Chad mentioned Tammy had not been feeling well for about a month or so. He mentioned she had some light-headedness. Prior asks about the towel used to wipe away the foam and if she looked at it before wiping the mouth. Willmore says she didn’t use the towel – Brenda Dye did. Willmore did not look at the towel prior to it being used.

9:03 a.m. Prior asks if another family member may have suggested not having an autopsy. Willmore doesn’t recall. Prior asks if it’s possible Chad told Willmore that Tammy didn’t see any doctors about her illness. Willmore says all she recalls is Chad saying Tammy doesn’t really see doctors much.

9:01 a.m. Prior asks about the book on Tammy’s nightstand. The title was about essential oils, herbs, homeopathic remedies. Willmore says there were a few homeopathic medicines in the cabinet. Prior asks if any other members of the Daybell family were present when she and Dye spoke with him about having an autopsy.

9 a.m. Prior asks Willmore about Chad mentioning Tammy had been clumsy. She says Chad said Tammy had been lightheaded and clumsy. Prior asks Willmore about her interview with the FBI.

8:59 a.m. Willmore had never heard the names of JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Lori Vallow or Alex Cox. She has since heard those names. Blake has nothing further. Prior will now cross examine.

8:57 a.m. No medications inside the home stood out to Willmore. Willmore provided information she gathered to Dye when Dye arrived. Willmore deferred to Dye when Dye showed up. Willmore and Dye spoke about whether an autopsy should be done. Dye determined one should not happen. Willmore remembers asking Chad if he wanted an autopsy and he said no.

8:55 a.m. Chad never mentioned seizures or fainting spells to Willmore. Chad told her that Tammy didn’t go to doctors. Willmore noticed a book on the nightstand about natural healing. She thought maybe that’s why Tammy passed away – she was sick and wasn’t seeing a doctor but trying to treat herself.

8:54 a.m. Willmore did not see any indication on Tammy’s head that she fell out of bed and hit the night stand.

8:52 a.m. Willmore says the foam bugged her so she pulled out her phone and looked up poisoning because it was an unusual looking amount of foam. She didn’t find anything about poisoning online.

8:52 a.m. Blake shows a photo of the bedroom again and there is a small white towel on the floor. That was the towel used to wipe away the foam.

8:50 a.m. There was not a lot of bruises. A medical examiner would determine the age of bruises – not a coroner, Willmore says. When Coroner Brenda Dye arrived, Willmore inspected Tammy’s body again. Dye wiped the foam off Tammy’s mouth and more came out. “I remember feeling like that was weird. I hadn’t really seen that before.”

8:48 a.m. Willmore arrived at the house around 6:35-6:40 a.m. The Daybell home was about six miles away from Willmore’s home. She says it was clear there was no need for emergency services because Tammy was dead. Because Tammy was stiff, Willmore knew Tammy had been dead for at least a few hours – not just recently.

8:48 a.m. Willmore noticed foam coming out of Tammy’s mouth. She had never seen something like this before and was surprised. Willmore knew the coroner was coming so she didn’t want to do anything with the body until she arrived.

8:46 a.m. Blake shows a photo of the bedroom. Willmore noticed Tammy’s legs were stiff and figured she had been dead for a while. Willmore took the sheet down and looked at her face and neck. She noticed some bruises on her bicep but she thought maybe Tammy had bumped into something. She said it looked like an older bruise – not fresh.

8:42 a.m. Chad said Tammy had been vomiting in the bathroom during the night but after she threw up, they went back to sleep. Chad said Tammy was menopausal and she liked to sleep with one leg outside of the covers. Chad said Tammy fell out of the bed. “She kind of slipped out and one leg was entangled in a blanket or sheet.” Tammy assumed part of her body was on the ground with one leg entangled in the sheets.

8:41 a.m. Willmore spoke with Chad about Tammy’s health history and what he thought happened. She asked if he had any medical issues and Chad said she had not but in the past month or so she had hypotension and lightheadedness. Chad said Tammy had been a bit clumsy.

8:40 a.m. Fremont County Deputy Greenhalgh was at the home when Willmore arrived. So was Chad. “He was distraught, crying, stating his wife has passed away,” Willmore says. Chad’s son Garth Daybell then came into the bedroom later. He was very quiet and did not say much.

8:39 a.m. Willmore responded to Tammy Daybell’s death on Oct. 19, 2019. She had only responded to 5-6 unattended deaths up to that point because she was new in her position. Willmore did not know Chad or Tammy Daybell.

8:37 a.m. Willmore has been an EMT for 15 years. She became deputy coroner in February/March 2019 and worked with Brenda Dye. Willmore is no longer a deputy coroner. Blake asks what an unattended death. It’s when someone dies and they aren’t under the care of hospice or a doctor at the time.

8:35 a.m. Jurors are in their seats. First witness today will be former Deputy Coroner Cammy Willmore. Lindsey Blake will question her.

8:29 a.m. Chad Daybell is in a blue checkered shirt and red tie. Defense attorney John Prior is sitting next to him. Lindsey Blake, Rob Wood, Ingrid Batey and Rocky Wixom at the prosecution table. Larry Woodcock and Vicki Hoban, Tammy’s aunt, are also here.

8:15 a.m. It’s day 21 of Chad Daybell’s murder trial. Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy Daybell’s sister, is here with her husband, Jason Gwilliam. Michael and Benjamin Douglas, Tammy and Samantha’s brothers, are also here.
 
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I believe he is guilty but proving it is necessary. I think he is done for with Tammy but the kids, especially JJ are harder to prove if no DNA linking him directly. Phone evidence ties him to the burials but nothing so far ties him to the murders. How did Lori get tied to the murders, for example?

I really think it was dumb burying them on the property - but for that they could have got away with it.
I think there's plenty. He does not have to be tied physically. Plus he is I'm with his tools and blood of Tylee. A body does stop bleeding after death... His property, his tools. That's Tylee but there's also the overall obvious plan. Kidless. She had no kids. Money, life insurance, social security, etc. The grand plan. I think there's enough. I think there is plenty just as there was with Lori. You are looking for a physical act it seems, there does not have to be one by him or proof of such. Just as there did not have to be with her.

VERY dumb and full of it to bury them at home. AGREE 100%. I suspect Tylee may well have been killed there as well... Perhaps even JJ. Hard to say and we will likely never know.
 
Yes I think Tylee took him out to Charles' car. There's a video of Lori and Tylee returning and being interviewed and the video of them at Burger King so we can see the car they are in.
I think so too. Just came back to me in talking of all this. I don't know what Lori drove routinely. I know Charles was visiting and in a hotel and I believe had a rental car and I am thinking that's what Lori took and his phone... It just makes me wonder if the initial plan was different... His phone would have been shown traveling as well as his car taking JJ to breakfast and school as if still alive... I'm not saying it was but wouldn't be the first time Alex and her messed up a plan... Just interesting she had his car (I think) and his phone going to exactly where he was to go to... Maybe not a planned on shoe stop of course...
 
I love how they bring these witnesses up in the order that they have them. They don’t drone on day after day with scientific evidence, they pepper it with people who knew the victims. Yesterday they had three witnesses in a row that Tammy worked with and saw the day before she died. All of them said she was in excellent health. Why did Tammy’s children say she wasn’t? That’s what gets me.
I've noticed that too and it keeps it interesting for the jury (and us). I know the detectives and experts matter a great deal but it can get dry and long. And the human interest part is always a bit more interesting and tells its own thing about who the victim really was and what they were like.

I am beyond with Tammy's children and I am not going to guilt self for it any longer. Maybe I should say Chad's children. I don't care if he convinced them Tamm was in bad health while she was alive or after or if they are lying to save dad, any one of them that gets up there and say such are liars imo. She was at work that day. Tons saw her. She was fine. Even energetic. HOURS before she died. Chad is an IDIOT. He'd have been smarter to do such after her missing a few days or even on a SUnday night instead of just havig been seen by every other teacher, office aide, student just hours before in FINE health. Think about what Heather said though, everyone thought her instigating and to her amazement all fell for Chad. I think Chad was so sure he'd be believed. AND he WAS.
 
They have sent Voyager 1 and 2 out into space and they have travelled billions of miles so far and have not even got to another solar system yet but have still not apparently found any other form of life out there. They are still travelling further out. Earth is unique so far.
I read something not too long ago and can't recall it but showing evidence of something... Not human life but something... Probably on my phone at a break... It may have been water or some such previous and not life, I forget of course lol.

I don't necessarily think of "heaven" as a place as in human thinking of physical place. WE always and I do too point above our out there but I leave that open. Of course we believe HE77 is down and heaven up.

Chad though talked of former lives on another planet or too did he not?
 
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Please excuse the typos. These are live updates from the courtroom.

8:50 a.m. There was not a lot of bruises. A medical examiner would determine the age of bruises – not a coroner, Willmore says. When Coroner Brenda Dye arrived, Willmore inspected Tammy’s body again. Dye wiped the foam off Tammy’s mouth and more came out. “I remember feeling like that was weird. I hadn’t really seen that before.”

8:48 a.m. Willmore arrived at the house around 6:35-6:40 a.m. The Daybell home was about six miles away from Willmore’s home. She says it was clear there was no need for emergency services because Tammy was dead. Because Tammy was stiff, Willmore knew Tammy had been dead for at least a few hours – not just recently.

8:48 a.m. Willmore noticed foam coming out of Tammy’s mouth. She had never seen something like this before and was surprised. Willmore knew the coroner was coming so she didn’t want to do anything with the body until she arrived.

8:46 a.m. Blake shows a photo of the bedroom. Willmore noticed Tammy’s legs were stiff and figured she had been dead for a while. Willmore took the sheet down and looked at her face and neck. She noticed some bruises on her bicep but she thought maybe Tammy had bumped into something. She said it looked like an older bruise – not fresh.

8:42 a.m. Chad said Tammy had been vomiting in the bathroom during the night but after she threw up, they went back to sleep. Chad said Tammy was menopausal and she liked to sleep with one leg outside of the covers. Chad said Tammy fell out of the bed. “She kind of slipped out and one leg was entangled in a blanket or sheet.” Tammy assumed part of her body was on the ground with one leg entangled in the sheets.

8:41 a.m. Willmore spoke with Chad about Tammy’s health history and what he thought happened. She asked if he had any medical issues and Chad said she had not but in the past month or so she had hypotension and lightheadedness. Chad said Tammy had been a bit clumsy.

8:40 a.m. Fremont County Deputy Greenhalgh was at the home when Willmore arrived. So was Chad. “He was distraught, crying, stating his wife has passed away,” Willmore says. Chad’s son Garth Daybell then came into the bedroom later. He was very quiet and did not say much.

8:39 a.m. Willmore responded to Tammy Daybell’s death on Oct. 19, 2019. She had only responded to 5-6 unattended deaths up to that point because she was new in her position. Willmore did not know Chad or Tammy Daybell.

8:37 a.m. Willmore has been an EMT for 15 years. She became deputy coroner in February/March 2019 and worked with Brenda Dye. Willmore is no longer a deputy coroner. Blake asks what an unattended death. It’s when someone dies and they aren’t under the care of hospice or a doctor at the time.

8:35 a.m. Jurors are in their seats. First witness today will be former Deputy Coroner Cammy Willmore. Lindsey Blake will question her.

8:29 a.m. Chad Daybell is in a blue checkered shirt and red tie. Defense attorney John Prior is sitting next to him. Lindsey Blake, Rob Wood, Ingrid Batey and Rocky Wixom at the prosecution table. Larry Woodcock and Vicki Hoban, Tammy’s aunt, are also here.

8:15 a.m. It’s day 21 of Chad Daybell’s murder trial. Samantha Gwilliam, Tammy Daybell’s sister, is here with her husband, Jason Gwilliam. Michael and Benjamin Douglas, Tammy and Samantha’s brothers, are also here.
She is long dead, she wipeid foam away and more came out. That seems very odd to me. She said as much as well... Doesn't matter since there is a cause of death but curious...
 
I read something not too long ago and can't recall it but showing evidence of something... Not human life but something... Probably on my phone at a break... It may have been water or some such previous and not life, I forget of course lol.

I don't necessarily think of "heaven" as a place as in human thinking of physical place. WE always and I do too point above our out there but I leave that open. Of course we believe HE77 is down and heaven up.

Chad though talked of former lives on another planet or too did he not?
I think it was water or carbon dioxide or some such, yes. So Chad was maybe right about something?
 
She is long dead, she wipeid foam away and more came out. That seems very odd to me. She said as much as well... Doesn't matter since there is a cause of death but curious...
Maybe because she was moved and he lay her back on the bed? Although we don't know what actually happened. I think she was possibly suffocated on the floor maybe then put in the bed. It is weird though because rigor had set in too and lividity IIRC. Did Chad then get in the bed and sleep next to his murdered wife till the early hours? Then push the body out of the bed so Garth would hear it?
 
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Maybe because she was moved and he lay her back on the bed? Although we don't know what actually happened. I think she was possibly suffocated on the floor maybe then put in the bed. It is weird though because rigor had set in too and lividity IIRC. Did Chad then get in the bed and sleep next to his murdered wife till the early hours? Then push the body out of the bed so Garth would hear it?
So you get what I mean. What would expel it at that point? I guess she could mean she wiped it and more dripped out...

I'm listening now on Linda's and he wanted his name not on Tammy's headstone!!
 
That really angered me. I even said something about it on X.com.
No sh*t. He did all he could do to remove her from any connection to him and as Samantha said this is a THING in LDS that you can do the genealogy and such through headstones and more.

Chad is going to prison if not even in front of a firing squad. Imo.
 
No sh*t. He did all he could do to remove her from any connection to him and as Samantha said this is a THING in LDS that you can do the genealogy and such through headstones and more.

Chad is going to prison if not even in front of a firing squad. Imo.
It is a thing in that religion! I know because my mom's family is LDS and I have excellent records of my family ancestry.
 

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