I know what you mean. It is like he is resigned to something and I think you may be right.
I'm not sure. I do see what you mean but I also personally think the first emotion we've ever seen from him and then not even much emotion showing but some 'tude and he is flat out pis*ed imo. I don't think he's like all depressed and desperate and losing it or that kind of suicidal. Someone said when he refused to let mitigation go on by Prior in the first time he was going to play the martyr. I think that's one likelihood. I also don't think he believes for a minute the things he taught or played people with. I could MAYBE see him doing something to self just because he can't see a way off death row for years to come and there will be no sex, no power, no attention, no comforts bought from blood money...
So I don't know. The man is FULL of himself. The juror on I think it was Court TV today talked of that and his lack of emotion and said he did cry a bit one time and it was when he was watching or listening to something where he was crying, when he heard himself... The jurors have called him pretty accurately I'd say.
However anyone I guess an commit suicide once knowing their fate and life as they know it or wanted it is over. I mean look at Epstein, another totally evil, egocentric, skating free kind of person or always had been able to and bam. I'm not convinced on that one as to suicide BUT if it was then it did not fit the self loving guy he was so maybe the corner he was in...?
I forget who said it in this whirlwind of the end of this trial whether a juror, a family member or who but he believes none of the crap in their opinion and I agree. I don't even think he believes in he mainstream LDS teachings or beliefs or in God for that matter. They said it and I have always felt the same.
If he does kill self or attempts such, I will think it is for one of a few reasons and not because he is like the kind of mentally over the edge type of suicidal or that depressed, etc.
So I guess I don't disagree it could happen but the main reason would be seeing life on death row for the rest of his life or until executed as no life but even then I'm not so sure... I do think he will have one heck of a time adjusting imo, even Mr. Stoic. I personally think he has contempt for it all and if he could have he'd have spit at Boyce instead of answering that last curt NO. Without a sir, without another word. Prior just before him though keeping to the bare minimum of civility as they need to do was about as curt...
I dont' know. Maybe with what he is facing for life and death he will. But it won't be because he doesn't love self or wouldn't indulge self if he could, he is the most important person in his world, always has been.
He doesn't have normal emotion except what psychopaths or sociopaths or whatever buzz word fits. Anger? Yes. They all have the egocentric ones. Depression? HIGHLY doubt it, EVER. Not in the way any of us would. Lust? Greed? Those really aren't emotions but yeah, he has those.
And I agree with this, he can't from death row do what he could possibly do in incarceration in just prison for life and that would be to manipulate, control, try to come up with some new Chad followers (if he survived it with the tough ones, he is so soft and Lily like, to gain his own followers. He isn't going to have that kind of access or people contact with the DP sentence. He could though likely write books from prison, not sure. He wont' have the same call and tablet, etc. privileges that he had in county by a long shot.
I can't believe how fast Boyce signed the order and he was moved.
I don't really know honestly and have a point or opinion, just talking it out as I do after a long day as usual in first post that took on any major thought.
I think death by firing squad is fitting for him and a few as you joked of about a joke you heard should have paintball guns he can't tell apart from the real ones.... He put Alex up to shooting people many a time including his own wife and there is also his shooting a raccoon thing that was NOT a raccoon. Yeah, that way of execution would be very fitting in this case. I hope to live if not to see it personally, no desire to, to hear about it firsthand. From Nate. OR from family members of the victims that might attend. If THEY live long enough.
Still processing I guess the end to this, tried to the other night but of course it goes on with jurors now talking and such but It's still a bit hard to believe it is over, this part with both convicted and never getting out. Been such a trek and so many years and so much...
So a woman I work with I mentioned this case to a month or so ago and I told her the crime thing is kind of my main interest, she was talking of a missing semi driver. She knew a little about it but not a lot. Hadn't seen her to talk to in a few weeks. We both may be at work but doesn't mean you ever cross paths with a moment to talk. Today she had one and we did and she said did you see that Chad Daybell guy got the DP and I said YES. I told her I followed the case from day one (may have told her that before, unsure if I ever did). She then asked why Lori didn't and if it was tried in another state or something and that's why she couldn't get the DP and I started to fill her in that she WAS facing the DP but it had to be taken off the table but then a customer came along and I couldn't talk to her for long but enough that she thinks it is RIGHT he got it and that she deserves it too. I had no idea her leanings on the DP or in life so if we ever got time this is someone lol I'd connect with on the crime thing pretty well. She is also a football fan and we talked that first the very RARE minutes we get at work, so brief, will be weeks. A RIVAL one but I knew here favorite player in life and she knew mine, etc. and a lot about it all.
Anyhow this is someone who did not follow the case, tons don't do such, she knew a bit if I recall, not even sure if she did or if I mentioned it and then she saw this recent news and brought it up to me.
Kind of wandered off now but still a relevant thing to this case and the result--people who are NOT pro DP, many, think he deserved it and more so think they both do/did. She even in the short time mentioned her having mental issues or him playing her and I quickly told her before the customer was close, do you know that in the beginning for months if not years, most people thought Lori played HIM and he would be the next hub to die and have life insurance take out on and she got HIM to do HER bidding...This filling her in when I knew she knew of it lasted probably not a minute but I her as much info as I had time for even as the customer came up to us I was still ending a sentence about it to her lol. She's in my age range. I think she is the longest term employee at our store.
So that was kind of cool. In the talking we have done the bit of time we have had a minute, I am not sure she follows a bit of crime online or in any forum, I think it may be news OR if a local one she will search for news on it. My mom when I was there was kind of the same. I'd tell her about a case and then she'd see a blip about it, formerly knowing little nor caring, in some news she watched and then would tell me and I'd fill her in on the case.
Now I clearly am just yakking to destress the day before another. Home 9:30 last night and had to be back at 8 this morning. There is ONE like that in every week and they bite. Sometimes it is seven a.m. and we've had to stay an hour later. I've never been given a 5 or 6 a.m. and don't want them. If one were all nights or all days, it would help I think. Only part timers can do that and they can't count on their hours then either. Full timers have to run the gamut although SOME seem to never have to close...
Yep, I'm just yakkig now so I will stop.
Anyhow we coudln't have asked for more for the families and the deceased victims other than Lori also having faced the DP. That will NEVER not bother me.
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