JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
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The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
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RoundPeg said:
No. I watched some of Lori's last night. Been a hectic few weeks for me and as a result my attention span is nil.
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I get it, about the same here. No time and can't focus. I saw Lori's. A lot of it is her in the room alone after the interview. Started Tylee's and the first 1/2 hour of that is her in a room alone. She fidgets, hums, cracks her knuckles, etc. I would skip these parts but kind of want to see what they act like when no one is with them but I feel they are both aware there are cameras. Lori did little when alone, Tylee is more self conscious, fidgety or maybe self soothing... I am just running it five minutes here, ten minutes there between doing other things...
 
Kimster said:
Oh! I know what I’ll be doing tonight.
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A head's up that after Lori's interview, she is left alone and for a long time on the tape does nothing but sit in a chair cross legged looking as if she is sleeping, zoning, meditating or something... You can save that time if you want, she did nothing of note other than very unreactive and calm when alone. Eventually someone comes back in and you can pick it up there. I went through all those minutes in the event she had an expression, did something, etc. but nope. Sure she knows about cameras.

Now with Tylee's, hers starts for 1/2 an hour of that. She fidgets and hums, cracks knuckles, seems a bit bored and restless and maybe self conscious. If you just want to see her mannerisms, etc. you may want to watch that. If not, her interview starts 1/2 hour in or so. Then she is again left alone and that's where I am at in that one for the moment, will go back and watch a bit more later. Eventually I imagine someone will come back in again...

Interestingly, even though in separate rooms, I think Tylee can hear her mom's interview and answers and vice versa... The same lady interviews each separately. The viewer can hear it at times so it is pretty likely they can hear what the other is saying....
 
It is odd to me that both Tylee and Lori were barefoot when their feet were up in the chairs.

It also is almost haunting to me to hear Lori talk of her concern for the kids when Charles was "losing" his temper that day. And then to hear Tylee express concern about her uncle and mom when Charles was upset that morning. We know now her mom's love for her wasn't deep or true... Nor was her uncle's apparently...

And just how long later, these children Lori was so concerned about were dead...
 
Well I can save others some time. Tylee's tape is more than two hours. I watched all of her fidgeting, etc. and that is the majority of the tape. There is an interview, watch that. Before and after it she is alone for a long time, humming, bored, restless, etc. At about 35 minutes or a bit less before the end of the tape, they come get her and I think take her to Lori. After that there is nothing but an empty room with no one in it for a long time. Occasionally you can hear conversation in the hallway or in another room, I didn't try to turn it up or hear it. Anyhow the room remains empty and then about at 1:58 hours or 1:59, it stays empty but you can clearly hear them talking in the hallway for a few minutes and then it ends. You can save a LOT of time if you just watch the interview, maybe want to see a bit of Tylee alone, listen to the last few minutes and that's pretty much what matters on it.

Interestingly, in Lori's interview when she expressed concern of Tylee being upset and alone, the woman told her they were popping in and checking on her I think is what she said every so often. No one ever did that I saw so it was untrue. They may have been watching on monitor but that's not checking on her and comforting/talking to her to see she is okay...
 
GrandmaBear said:
This is the interview of Mel Gibb with Rexburg PD. I wonder why it is they released these all now, glad they did though. I only wish I had time to watch them all but don't right now. Going to have to be in bits and pieces for me. Pretty long this one.

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Took a while, but watched this one. It was worth listening to. 'Ned' was created by Chad, not Lori .. anyone surprised?
 
kdg411 said:
Took a while, but watched this one. It was worth listening to. 'Ned' was created by Chad, not Lori .. anyone surprised?
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Haven't watched it yet. Hope to get time to do so or at least start it. I'm not surprised Chad created "Ned", he was the one who allegedly did the dark and light list, ratings, etc...
 
GrandmaBear said:
A head's up that after Lori's interview, she is left alone and for a long time on the tape does nothing but sit in a chair cross legged looking as if she is sleeping, zoning, meditating or something... You can save that time if you want, she did nothing of note other than very unreactive and calm when alone. Eventually someone comes back in and you can pick it up there. I went through all those minutes in the event she had an expression, did something, etc. but nope. Sure she knows about cameras.

Now with Tylee's, hers starts for 1/2 an hour of that. She fidgets and hums, cracks knuckles, seems a bit bored and restless and maybe self conscious. If you just want to see her mannerisms, etc. you may want to watch that. If not, her interview starts 1/2 hour in or so. Then she is again left alone and that's where I am at in that one for the moment, will go back and watch a bit more later. Eventually I imagine someone will come back in again...

Interestingly, even though in separate rooms, I think Tylee can hear her mom's interview and answers and vice versa... The same lady interviews each separately. The viewer can hear it at times so it is pretty likely they can hear what the other is saying....
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That stinks! Tylee knew she had to be careful, then. Nothing went in her favor as far as saving her life, did it? :(
 
Kimster said:
That stinks! Tylee knew she had to be careful, then. Nothing went in her favor as far as saving her life, did it? :(
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It does stink. I think that poor girl was used to knowing and did know exactly what she was to do... Just as she did when she and Lori and Mel Gibb went to the PD about Charles and Charles complained about her...

I honestly hoped Tylee would show some emotion in talking of it, like maybe some trauma or tears over Charles but nothing... Just to see that she did care and was a shocked and traumatized normal teen having been sort of present at a death/murder basically... Nothing though. However, they weren't exactly on good terms and he was now kind of her mom's "ex-" and they were fighting.... So maybe there wouldn't be tears from any teen... I just wonder the years of living with Lori just had her obeying and doing as she knew she was supposed to at the police station...
 
kdg411 said:
It was worth watching. After Lori & Chad called Alex to let him know that Tammy was being exumed he told Zulema that he hoped he wasn't their 'fall guy'.
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Wow. Even though that would probably be considered hearsay possibly for trial purposes, that's pretty interesting. Everyone figured that but Alex suspected it...? It also indicates he knows Chad and Lori killed Tammy... He did mean fall guy for them right? Not the cops fall guy?

I am listening on and off to Mel Gibb right now. Alex and Zulema are probably going to be the last two I listen to if we have all of them now... Not sure if this is all?
 
GrandmaBear said:
Wow. Even though that would probably be considered hearsay possibly for trial purposes, that's pretty interesting. Everyone figured that but Alex suspected it...? It also indicates he knows Chad and Lori killed Tammy... He did mean fall guy for them right? Not the cops fall guy?

I am listening on and off to Mel Gibb right now. Alex and Zulema are probably going to be the last two I listen to if we have all of them now... Not sure if this is all?
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