Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

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This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 
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I can't think of a better way to have removed the top level of the snow.
and knowingly destroy possible evidence and blow everything that was on top of the ground away, too. Sounds like a positively awful idea unless your entire point was to destroy the scene.
 
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and knowingly destroy possible evidence and blow everything that was on top of the ground away, too. Sounds like a positively awful idea unless your entire point was to destroy the scene.
I'm both ways on this. Lightly uncovering is one thing but blasting with such is another. I think all picture someone like coming in blasting as one would do with debris and leaves and what are the facts here? And was it lightly done from a distance rather than hands, shovel, etc. ? I honestly don't know so asking and DO WE KNOW is another question? Blowing all was on top of the ground? Meaning stuff was seen on top of and he blew it away?

I'm not arguing, I can see this two entirely different ways depending on the facts of it.
 
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I'm both ways on this. Lightly uncovering is one thing but blasting with such is another. I think all picture someone like coming in blasting as one would do with debris and leaves and what are the facts here? And was it lightly done from a distance rather than hands, shovel, etc. ? I honestly don't know so asking and DO WE KNOW is another question? Blowing all was on top of the ground? Meaning stuff was seen on top of and he blew it away?

I'm not arguing, I can see this two entirely different ways depending on the facts of it.
You don't "lightly uncover" things with a leaf blower. They blow leaves out of the way, which means they would blow any fibers or absolutely any trace evidence away that sat on top of the ground, under the snow. How is that a good thing at all?
 
You don't "lightly uncover" things with a leaf blower. They blow leaves out of the way, which means they would blow any fibers or absolutely any trace evidence away that sat on top of the ground, under the snow. How is that a good thing at all?
Why would there be anything on the top of the ground with this coming down after? And that would all depend on distance and how pointed. If it is a fresh blanket and no prints etc, there would be NOTHING on top of ground imo. Undisturbed, etc. I work where we sell such. There are all sorts of power from cheap to pricey, low power to major. My bro carried one in his vehicle everywhere as well as a weed eater and some other things and would pull them out to help do this or that anywhere he went. Saw him use such a million times for one at our campsite. and no he did not go blasting all leaves into neighboring campsites. It's the height and level and power.

Some would be yelling as well if they used a shovel or their hands.

I said I don't know what I think with it about this and it depends.

As always, it is interesting that we agree in some and on some things but not in all or on others. Or cases.

I don't have a strong opinion on it. Yet. In this one. I have taken the other stance somewhat in this one for a number of reasons. First and foremost is how the most likely thing that happened is being ignored. Second, the fact that all just fall for a defense campaign. Third, that I see no real reason to believe a fight scenario at all and then involving the dog and more. I could go on. All that said, I don't know if they have enough to convict her or not but from what I've heard from the FEW who haven't jumped on the defense bandwagon out there, they do. Oh I could name a number of other reasons but I don't buy into how big of a conspiracy this would have to be with ever witness a liar.

What I do know is basically no prosecution side is being shared here. A couple are now but none were. Plenty of time before to share a ton of defense sided things but none now that trial is actually on and prosecution is up. No one has to and I don't mean it that way or that I shouldn't watch myself, etc., what I am saying is it is more likely due to opinions and bias. And believe me I have such in many cases, all know it. Doesn't mean though all isn't shared of both sides during a trial. As right now in Daybell.

Imo the likelihood Karen did not kill John is small. I wouldn't convict her though unless proven to me if a juror. I have no idea if they are proving it or not. And again no one has to do the work of providing all that but I have a feeling were defense up it would all be here.

Love ya all. Just saying...

I'm behind on Daybell which is one I followed throughout unlike this one. And behind on life and so with that, I'm out of here. I pray what is just results in this case, whatever that may be.

Door is open, a loud bird is happily chirping and I just finished the best homemade egg mcmuffin ever minus ham. Ooey, gooey, buttery, toasty.

Have a good one everyone!
 
Why would there be anything on the top of the ground with this coming down after? And that would all depend on distance and how pointed. If it is a fresh blanket and no prints etc, there would be NOTHING on top of ground imo. Undisturbed, etc. I work where we sell such. There are all sorts of power from cheap to pricey, low power to major. My bro carried one in his vehicle everywhere as well as a weed eater and some other things and would pull them out to help do this or that anywhere he went. Saw him use such a million times for one at our campsite. and no he did not go blasting all leaves into neighboring campsites. It's the height and level and power.

Some would be yelling as well if they used a shovel or their hands.

I said I don't know what I think with it about this and it depends.

As always, it is interesting that we agree in some and on some things but not in all or on others. Or cases.

I don't have a strong opinion on it. Yet. In this one. I have taken the other stance somewhat in this one for a number of reasons. First and foremost is how the most likely thing that happened is being ignored. Second, the fact that all just fall for a defense campaign. Third, that I see no real reason to believe a fight scenario at all and then involving the dog and more. I could go on. All that said, I don't know if they have enough to convict her or not but from what I've heard from the FEW who haven't jumped on the defense bandwagon out there, they do. Oh I could name a number of other reasons but I don't buy into how big of a conspiracy this would have to be with ever witness a liar.

What I do know is basically no prosecution side is being shared here. A couple are now but none were. Plenty of time before to share a ton of defense sided things but none now that trial is actually on and prosecution is up. No one has to and I don't mean it that way or that I shouldn't watch myself, etc., what I am saying is it is more likely due to opinions and bias. And believe me I have such in many cases, all know it. Doesn't mean though all isn't shared of both sides during a trial. As right now in Daybell.

Imo the likelihood Karen did not kill John is small. I wouldn't convict her though unless proven to me if a juror. I have no idea if they are proving it or not. And again no one has to do the work of providing all that but I have a feeling were defense up it would all be here.

Love ya all. Just saying...

I'm behind on Daybell which is one I followed throughout unlike this one. And behind on life and so with that, I'm out of here. I pray what is just results in this case, whatever that may be.

Door is open, a loud bird is happily chirping and I just finished the best homemade egg mcmuffin ever minus ham. Ooey, gooey, buttery, toasty.

Have a good one everyone!
ummmm, lots of things. Fibers and other trace. Why blow away the snow at all if that is the reasoning?
 

By Marc Fortier, John Moroney and Munashe Kwangwari • Published 43 mins ago • Updated 13 mins ago​


Continued from previous post:

Julie Albert's testimony​

Julie Albert was the second witness of the day called by the defense.

Assistant District Attorney Adam Lally started by establishing her relationship with O'Keefe. She said they were friends and neighbors and she was friendly with O'Keefe's niece and nephew and met Read in 2021 and had socialized with her on numerous occasions.

She was also asked to talk about the evening of Jan. 28, the night before O'Keefe's death, including the gathering that night at the Waterfall.

Julie Albert testified she was at the Waterfall with husband, recalling Read arriving with a drink under her coat from another bar across the street, C.F. McCarthy's.

She said she spoke with Read. Much of her testimony was similar to her husband's, describing who was at the bar and when they arrived and departed.

She said she had a migraine and left fairly soon after arriving to go home. She said her youngest son was home. Her oldest son was in the Navy and living in California at the time and her middle son Colin was at Brian Albert's home on Fairview Road.

She said her husband returned home sometime after 12, possibly 12:10 a.m., got undressed and went straight to bed. Another 10-15 minutes later, she said her son Colin returned home.

Lally asked if Colin had any injuries, and Julie said he did not.

The next morning, Julie Albert said she woke up around 8 a.m. and went to Dunkin' to buy donuts for her nephew Brian Albert Jr. for his birthday. She noticed a missed call from her friend Jennifer McCabe on her phone from 5:55 a.m., but no voicemail or text message.

She drove to her nephew's home on Fairview Road and pulled into the driveway around 8:30 a.m. She said McCabe's car was in the driveway.

She went to leave the donuts and a birthday card in her nephew's car, but her brother-in-law, Brian Albert, told her to come inside for a second.

Julie Albert said she went into the house, and Brian Albert, his wife Nicole Albert, their Brian Higgins and Jennifer McCabe and her husband Matt were already inside.

"Everyone was just sitting there and I was just looking around and everyone was visibly upset and I asked, 'What's going on?' and another maybe 30 seconds went by, and Jen said 'Something's happened to John' and I said 'John?' and she said 'John O'Keefe.' I said, 'Is he OK?' and she said, 'We don't know.'"

She said she then went home to wake her husband up and let him know what happened. They then both went back to Brian and Nicole Albert's home on Fairview Road.

Several days later, Julie Albert said she met with two state police troopers investigating O'Keefe's death.

During cross examination, Yannetti asked Julie Albert to clarify that the interview with the two state police troopers actually took place almost two weeks later instead of just several days later as Lally had said. She said that was the first time any investigators spoke to her and her husband.

Julie Albert also acknowledged that she knew one of the investigators, Proctor, who is the brother of one of her close friends. She said she has spent time at Michael Proctor's childhood home and has been to the pool at the Proctors' home.

She also said she texted regularly with Courtney Proctor, Michael Proctor's sister, but said she didn't recall how often she spoke with her on the phone.

Yannetti asked Julie Albert if she used Courtney Proctor as an intermediary to speak with Michael Proctor about the Read case. Cannone overruled the prosecution's objection, and Albert replied, "No, I did not."

Yannetti said Julie Albert and Courtney Proctor spoke on the phone 67 times, but Albert said she didn't recall the exact number of times.

The defense attorney also asked Albert if she remembered talking with Courtney Proctor on the phone for 12 minutes on Feb. 1, 2022, the date when Read was arrested in connection with O'Keefe's death. He showed her phone records, but Albert said that did not refresh her memory.

Yannetti asked Albert if she spoke with Courtney Proctor on Feb 1., 2022, and she said she did.

"What did you discuss?" Yannetti asked.

"I don't recall," Albert said.

The next day, when Read was arraigned, Yannetti said Albert spoke with Courtney Proctor thee times before the arraignment happened. After the arraignment, he said she spoke with Courtney Proctor for 27 minutes.

Albert acknowledged that she knew Read had been arrested on Feb. 1 and she was being arraigned the following day.

Court adjourned for the day just before 12:30 p.m., with Julie Albert still on the stand. A full day of testimony is expected on Friday, beginning at 9 a.m.

Proctor is under internal investigation on how he handled this case. Isn't he also the subject of an FBI investigation?

Also, it seems a lot of people are having a hard time remembering things.
 
ummmm, lots of things. Fibers and other trace. Why blow away the snow at all if that is the reasoning?
I don't have a reasoning. I'm just not taking anything at face value if I don't know more about it. I'm not even saying you're not right. I don't know. When I don't know I try to say so rather than assume or be set on the fact I do when I don't.

I mean at this point they are thinking what and knowng what? All that plays in. We ALL certainly know many an investigation is far from perfect especially at first at times.

Again, I don't know. For those who have been able to watch, is there testimony on this yet? I'd like to know.
 
Proctor is under internal investigation on how he handled this case. Isn't he also the subject of an FBI investigation?

Also, it seems a lot of people are having a hard time remembering things.
That's known but I read a source says or "it is RUMORED" it has to do with the Read case. That isn't enough for me as to whether it is and IF it is why would they allow this prosecution to go forward?

I've said before I don't have any problem seeing some abused their power for their benefit, etc. but that's a whole lot different than committing and covering a murder of a COP they KNEW.
 
Imo the likelihood Karen did not kill John is small. I wouldn't convict her though unless proven to me if a juror. I have no idea if they are proving it or not. And again no one has to do the work of providing all that but I have a feeling were defense up it would all be here.
I've watched every minute and have to yet hear any evidence for motive that is required for a second degree murder charge. There was no crime scene investigation done. Canton PD collected evidence in solo cups? First responder statements have all stated their testimony changed from when it was first documented. If there is evidence of KR hitting Officer O'Keefe I've yet to hear it.
 
I've watched every minute and have to yet hear any evidence for motive that is required for a second degree murder charge. There was no crime scene investigation done. Canton PD collected evidence in solo cups? First responder statements have all stated their testimony changed from when it was first documented. If there is evidence of KR hitting Officer O'Keefe I've yet to hear it.
and why would anybody in that house have any reason to google how long it takes to freeze at that particular moment? It wasn't like it was record freezing that night for somebody to casually wonder. Why would any LE think using a snowblower to blow evidence all around be a good idea? So many questions on that side of things. People that should know better than to handle it themselves, unless they didn't want ANY outside investigation.
 

By Marc Fortier, Munashe Kwangwari and John Moroney • Published May 10, 2024 • Updated 18 mins ago​


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Nicole Albert testifies​

Nicole Albert, the wife of Boston Police Officer Brian Albert, took the stand around 11:15 a.m. Nicole and Brian Albert lived in the Fairview Road home where O'Keefe's body was found until they moved to Norwood recently.

Lally asked Nicole Albert about the date of Friday, Jan. 28, 2022, the day before her son Brian Albert Jr.'s birthday.

Because it was supposed to snow on Saturday, Jan. 29, 2022, the family had talked about having a small birthday gathering for family and friends on Friday night.

Albert also testified about the gathering with friends and family at the Waterfall.

She said her husband Brian was driving back to New York at the time, and she urged him to join the group at the Waterfall, which he did shortly after 10 p.m. She said shortly after 11 p.m., O'Keefe and Read arrived.

Albert also testified about how a group of friends and family members gathered at her family's house on Fairview Road after leaving the Waterfall. She said her daughter Caitlin was the last person to leave the gathering, around 2 a.m.

At that point, Nicole Albert said she was the only one still awake. Her son and husband had already gone to sleep.

Albert testified that the didn't hear or see anything unusual outside her house at any point that night.

A short time later, after cleaning up the house, she said she went to sleep around 2:30 a.m. She said her husband was still awake, lying in bed and watching television.

Between 6 and 6:30 the next morning, she said her sister Jennifer McCabe "came bursting into my bedroom."

"She's saying, 'He's out in the snow, we found him out in the snow, we don't know if he's OK,'" Julie Albert said.

"My immediate thought was just that I thought something had happened to one of my children, something had happened to one of her children. I couldn't imagine what she was doing in my bedroom at this time in the morning."

"She was hysterical," Albert said.

Albert said McCabe eventually told her that O'Keefe had been found outside on their lawn, and that investigators wanted to speak with her and her husband.

Lally also showed Nicole Albert photos of the exterior of her Fairview Road home from January of 2022. And he discussed the Alberts' dog, Chloe.

Nicole Albert said the dog had been up in their bedroom but Brian Albert let her out to go to the bathroom soon after arriving home. The backyard was fenced in, she said.

After that, she said Brian Albert brought the dog back upstairs.

Nicole Albert also testified that she and her husband moved from Canton to Norwood in April of 2023.

"We had always planned to move," she said. "The kids were starting to get older, we were looking to possibly downsize."

She said the decision to sell the home had nothing to do with O'Keefe's death.

During cross examination, defense attorney Elizabeth Little asked Nicole Albert if she observed any sort of tension between O'Keefe and Read at the Waterfall on the night before O'Keefe was found dead. Albert said she did not. She also said she saw no evidence that Read was under the influence of alcohol.

Albert also testified that she saw her husband and his friend Higgins "fooling around" at the Waterfall that night, which Little described as "practice fighting." She also confirmed under questioning that her husband does have training as a boxer.

Little also got Albert to testify that her dog, Chloe, on one instance injured two women who were trying to break up a fight with another dog.

Albert also said that four months after O'Keefe's death, the family rehomed their dog, which they had owned for six years.

Little also pressed Albert on an earlier police interview where she said her daughter, Caitlin Albert, left her house at 12:15 a.m. and not 2 a.m. on the morning O'Keefe was found dead.

"I don't believe I said that," Albert said, indicating that the police investigator might have gotten things misconstrued in her notes.

Albert also testified about a Feb. 3, 2022, conversation with Massachusetts State Police Michael Proctor. Little pressed her on several pieces of information she left out during that interview, including some of the key people who were at her house on the night before O'Keefe died, including her nephew Colin Albert.

"I didn't mention Colin because I didn't consider him as part of the group that we were hanging out with at the Waterfall because he left as soon as I walked in," Albert said. "I didn't even think of him."

Asked by Little about the first thing she remembers waking up to on the morning of Jan. 29, 2022, Albert said, "My sister bombing into my bedroom" between 6 and 6:30 a.m. She said she didn't see any flashing lights or hear any sirens that night, noting that her blinds were closed.

Little pointed out that surveillance footage shows it was actually closer to 6:45 a.m. The defense attorney then referenced two phone calls from Jennifer McCabe to Albert at 6:07 a.m. and 6:08 a.m. that records show were answered.

"I never answered any phone calls from my sister that morning," Albert said. "She may have placed those phone calls to me, but I never answered them... I never spoke to her that morning."
 

By Marc Fortier, Munashe Kwangwari and John Moroney • Published May 10, 2024 • Updated 18 mins ago​


Continued from previous post:

Should 'Turtleboy' be allowed in the courtroom?​

Testimony came to an abrupt halt shortly after 10 a.m. due to a motion from the prosecution seeking to have Aidan Kearney, the blogger better known as "Turtleboy," removed from the courtroom. Friday was the first day he was allowed into court in one of the media seats.

Court resumed around 10:45 a.m., with Kearney's attorney, Tim Bradl, arguing that his client should be allowed in the courtroom and the prosecution's motion should be denied. He said there had been no service whatsoever, and the prosecution is seeking to "trample all over" his client's First Amendment rights.

"There's some funny business going on here," Kearney's attorney said. "I don't appreciate that."

"This is more personalized retaliation from the Norfolk County DA's office," he added. "This was adjudicated fully."

Lally then described his motion, saying he isn't asking that Kearney not be allowed to cover the case or watch the trial, only that he not be allowed to attend in person.

"The substantial reason your honor being that Mr. Kearney has been indicted for intimidating witnesses... and specifically witnesses in this case," he said.

Lally said the witnesses have expressed concern and the prosecutors are concerned that Kearney's presence might impact their testimony.

Bradl, however, argued that the witnesses' concern has no legal standing.

"The answer that I have is, 'So what?' This matter has been adjudicated twice. Mr. Kearney has the right to speak on the case, he's gone through all the proper channels to be here... he's just trying to cover the case as best he can. This is just a personal vendetta that's been carried out by the Norfolk County DA's office against Mr. Kearney... there's no reason for this motion to be allowed."

Judge Beverly Cannone affirmed that Kearney has a right to be in the courtroom, but she also needs to make sure that Read has a right to a fair trial. She said that due to the "chilling effect" Kearney's presence will have on the witnesses' testimony, she is going to excuse him from the courtroom during the testimony of several witnesses named by the prosecution, including Julie Nagle, Christopher Albert, Colin Albert, Massachusetts State Police Trooper Michael Proctor, Jennifer McCabe, Matthew McCabe, Brian Albert, Brian Albert Jr., Nicole Albert and Massachusetts State Police Trooper Yuri Bukhenik.

But Cannone said she will not take away Kearney's seat in his absence and he will be allowed to return to court for other witnesses. Nicole Albert was the next witness called to testify after the judge's ruling, so Kearney was required to leave the courtroom prior to the start of her testimony.
 

By Marc Fortier, Munashe Kwangwari and John Moroney • Published May 10, 2024 • Updated 18 mins ago​


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Retired Boston Police Officer Brian Albert testifies​

Just before 2:30 p.m. Friday, just after his wife finished testifying, Brian Albert took the stand. He said he was in New York on Friday, Jan. 28, 2022, for a funeral of a New York City police officer who had been killed in the line of duty, and drove back to Canton that night.

He spoke about arriving back to town, stopping at the Waterfall Bar & Grill following a conversation with his wife Nicole. He said his brother Chris, his wife, and several other friends, including Jennifer and Matthew McCabe were already there when he arrived. He said O'Keefe and Read arrived later.

Over the course of the evening, Albert said he hung out with O'Keefe and had several conversations.

He described the atmosphere at the bar as being fun.

"Everybody was in a great mood. People were getting along. It was friends and family. It just seemed like a great night."

Albert said he and his wife Nicole and their daughter Caitlin were among the first people in their group to leave the bar, along with his friend, Brian Higgins.

Upon leaving the bar, he returned home, where his wife had invited members of the group to join them, as they were celebrating their son's 23rd birthday.

Assistant District Attorney Adam Lally again showed surveillance video from the Waterfall, which has been shown to numerous witnesses throughout the second week of the trial.

Lally's questions turned to what Albert remembered from when he got home: letting their dog, Chloe, out into the backyard before bringing her upstairs, and a relaxed party for his son, Brian Jr.

"We were wishing Brian a happy birthday and everything was going great," he said.

He said he may have taken Higgins upstairs for a few minutes to show him pictures of his other son, John, who, like Higgins, is a Marine, Albert recalled.

Higgins remembered leaving the party around 1:30 a.m., around which time Albert went upstairs to watch TV and decompress from a long day.

"I think I popped back down at one point, just to see how long people were gonna be there," he said, noting that a group was still there, including his daughter and Jennifer and Matthew McCabe, among others.

Asked if he was aware of O'Keefe or Read coming over, Albert said, "John O'Keefe and Karen Read never entered my house."

His wife came upstairs around 2 a.m. to watch TV and hang out, Albert said, with Chloe there as well. He was awoken by his sister bursting into the room saying "something to the effect of, 'John is dead.'"
 
and why would anybody in that house have any reason to google how long it takes to freeze at that particular moment? It wasn't like it was record freezing that night for somebody to casually wonder. Why would any LE think using a snowblower to blow evidence all around be a good idea? So many questions on that side of things. People that should know better than to handle it themselves, unless they didn't want ANY outside investigation.
Well, the person who googled that didn't actually live there. It was the sister of the homeowner who invited her 'friend' John to the house. He wasn't friends with anyone else in that home.

John did have issues with the nephew of the homeowner however for throwing beer cans and trash in his yard and had reported this to Canton PD many times. However, since this nephew's uncle is a Canton police officer the reports were sidelined.

If others want to try to spin this their way then go for it. This officer deserves justice and IMOO the wrong person is on trial.
 
Well, the person who googled that didn't actually live there. It was the sister of the homeowner who invited her 'friend' John to the house. He wasn't friends with anyone else in that home.

John did have issues with the nephew of the homeowner however for throwing beer cans and trash in his yard and had reported this to Canton PD many times. However, since this nephew's uncle is a Canton police officer the reports were sidelined.

If others want to try to spin this their way then go for it. This officer deserves justice and IMOO the wrong person is on trial.
There is, at the very least, way too much reasonable doubt. There is no way I could convict her.
 
I've watched every minute and have to yet hear any evidence for motive that is required for a second degree murder charge. There was no crime scene investigation done. Canton PD collected evidence in solo cups? First responder statements have all stated their testimony changed from when it was first documented. If there is evidence of KR hitting Officer O'Keefe I've yet to hear it.
A bit confused there as we always here prosecution does not have to prove motive. Juries like such but isn't required. And if it was, well the theme seems to be a drunken argument and she thought him to be cheating. Or just drunken argument.

Perhaps there is not enough evidence, I don't know. Yeah as far as solo cups, the entire bunch included defendant and victim were partying no?

Unfortunately no way can I watch it but I can't with Daybell either but am reading all Tweets shared and nightly recaps. Haven't seen that here. Nor do I see nightly recaps "out there". That seems to me that either the interest isn't there or most are on this protestor Read is innocent train and aren't going to share the prosecution side.

I'm sure I may seem as if I'm playing devil's advocate and maybe I am although nothing about me ever would be tied to the evil devil but I was waiting for this and to see what they have and what said and just am not seeing anything despite a trial going on. It's like Delphi when it can't be about the defense it is silent. I'm just not going to jump or buy in to one side.

But am open but not seeing two sides to this even with trial going on. Part of that is that I cannot watch it of course. Coverage though, maybe it is algorithms but I see little.

They may not have enough to convict her I don't know. All I know is a trial is going on but there is little about it.

I've seen basically nothing before or during to buy the fight and dog thing.

It could be algorithms as I shared here and used to see like Melanie Little's shows on this and STS even and none are showing up for me these days. I don't get time to go looking plus this isn't my firs/top case as it is for you. I barely keep up with the ones that are for me.

Yeah solo cups and leaf blowers sure sound sensationally outrageous. No one though sharing tidbits or all of testimony? Again, all I mean is it is not my top case but I know it is to some others here.

AND :hugs:
 

By Marc Fortier, Munashe Kwangwari and John Moroney • Published May 10, 2024 • Updated 18 mins ago​


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Nicole Albert testifies​

Nicole Albert, the wife of Boston Police Officer Brian Albert, took the stand around 11:15 a.m. Nicole and Brian Albert lived in the Fairview Road home where O'Keefe's body was found until they moved to Norwood recently.

Lally asked Nicole Albert about the date of Friday, Jan. 28, 2022, the day before her son Brian Albert Jr.'s birthday.

Because it was supposed to snow on Saturday, Jan. 29, 2022, the family had talked about having a small birthday gathering for family and friends on Friday night.

Albert also testified about the gathering with friends and family at the Waterfall.

She said her husband Brian was driving back to New York at the time, and she urged him to join the group at the Waterfall, which he did shortly after 10 p.m. She said shortly after 11 p.m., O'Keefe and Read arrived.

Albert also testified about how a group of friends and family members gathered at her family's house on Fairview Road after leaving the Waterfall. She said her daughter Caitlin was the last person to leave the gathering, around 2 a.m.

At that point, Nicole Albert said she was the only one still awake. Her son and husband had already gone to sleep.

Albert testified that the didn't hear or see anything unusual outside her house at any point that night.

A short time later, after cleaning up the house, she said she went to sleep around 2:30 a.m. She said her husband was still awake, lying in bed and watching television.

Between 6 and 6:30 the next morning, she said her sister Jennifer McCabe "came bursting into my bedroom."

"She's saying, 'He's out in the snow, we found him out in the snow, we don't know if he's OK,'" Julie Albert said.

"My immediate thought was just that I thought something had happened to one of my children, something had happened to one of her children. I couldn't imagine what she was doing in my bedroom at this time in the morning."

"She was hysterical," Albert said.

Albert said McCabe eventually told her that O'Keefe had been found outside on their lawn, and that investigators wanted to speak with her and her husband.

Lally also showed Nicole Albert photos of the exterior of her Fairview Road home from January of 2022. And he discussed the Alberts' dog, Chloe.

Nicole Albert said the dog had been up in their bedroom but Brian Albert let her out to go to the bathroom soon after arriving home. The backyard was fenced in, she said.

After that, she said Brian Albert brought the dog back upstairs.

Nicole Albert also testified that she and her husband moved from Canton to Norwood in April of 2023.

"We had always planned to move," she said. "The kids were starting to get older, we were looking to possibly downsize."

She said the decision to sell the home had nothing to do with O'Keefe's death.

During cross examination, defense attorney Elizabeth Little asked Nicole Albert if she observed any sort of tension between O'Keefe and Read at the Waterfall on the night before O'Keefe was found dead. Albert said she did not. She also said she saw no evidence that Read was under the influence of alcohol.

Albert also testified that she saw her husband and his friend Higgins "fooling around" at the Waterfall that night, which Little described as "practice fighting." She also confirmed under questioning that her husband does have training as a boxer.

Little also got Albert to testify that her dog, Chloe, on one instance injured two women who were trying to break up a fight with another dog.

Albert also said that four months after O'Keefe's death, the family rehomed their dog, which they had owned for six years.

Little also pressed Albert on an earlier police interview where she said her daughter, Caitlin Albert, left her house at 12:15 a.m. and not 2 a.m. on the morning O'Keefe was found dead.

"I don't believe I said that," Albert said, indicating that the police investigator might have gotten things misconstrued in her notes.

Albert also testified about a Feb. 3, 2022, conversation with Massachusetts State Police Michael Proctor. Little pressed her on several pieces of information she left out during that interview, including some of the key people who were at her house on the night before O'Keefe died, including her nephew Colin Albert.

"I didn't mention Colin because I didn't consider him as part of the group that we were hanging out with at the Waterfall because he left as soon as I walked in," Albert said. "I didn't even think of him."

Asked by Little about the first thing she remembers waking up to on the morning of Jan. 29, 2022, Albert said, "My sister bombing into my bedroom" between 6 and 6:30 a.m. She said she didn't see any flashing lights or hear any sirens that night, noting that her blinds were closed.

Little pointed out that surveillance footage shows it was actually closer to 6:45 a.m. The defense attorney then referenced two phone calls from Jennifer McCabe to Albert at 6:07 a.m. and 6:08 a.m. that records show were answered.

"I never answered any phone calls from my sister that morning," Albert said. "She may have placed those phone calls to me, but I never answered them... I never spoke to her that morning."
I don't find any of this odd and in fact it sadly reminds me of one of the worst nights and mornings of my life. Not a match at all but when tragedy strikes. The ONLY night I did not have my phone next to me it in another room. A rare NIGHT I had gotten home later than I normally would. Again, no comparison really but I can see all this of not answering the phone, sister bursting in, etc. I just can get that.

I don't know what is deserved here or can be proven. I do know it has turned into a sh*t show.

And I've said it before and will again, I don't like almost anyone in it. Privilege. Or they thought so. So J & K got to the Waterfall like at 11??? P.M.?? On a night with weather where his brother and SIL if I have it right canceled plans??
 
Lightly uncovering is one thing but blasting with such is another. I think all picture someone like coming in blasting as one would do with debris and leaves and what are the facts here? And was it lightly done from a distance rather than hands, shovel, etc. ? I honestly don't know so asking and DO WE KNOW is another question? Blowing all was on top of the ground? Meaning stuff was seen on top of and he blew it away?
Nothing was seen on top but they could see blood beneath the snow and they wanted to collect it and so they "improvised" by using the leaf blower and because they were improvising, they videoed the process and the video was shown in court (Day 5).
Btw, I think it was while using the leaf blower that they also uncovered the broken cocktail glass.
 
Nothing was seen on top but they could see blood beneath the snow and they wanted to collect it and so they "improvised" by using the leaf blower and because they were improvising, they videoed the process and the video was shown in court (Day 5).
Btw, I think it was while using the leaf blower that they also uncovered the broken cocktail glass.
and what else was blown away besides the snow? That is the problem.
 
and why would anybody in that house have any reason to google how long it takes to freeze at that particular moment? It wasn't like it was record freezing that night for somebody to casually wonder. Why would any LE think using a snowblower to blow evidence all around be a good idea? So many questions on that side of things. People that should know better than to handle it themselves, unless they didn't want ANY outside investigation.
Now it is a sn*wblower? I thought it was a leaf blower?

And i've seen people who don't live in the coldest states think you freeze to death at 30 degrees etc. which we consider warm in the winter. Of course that's different whether you are alive and moving versus lying unconscious in it.

of course no outside investigation was wanted. they almost all were partying and drinking and people of "note". you talk of it all the time, I do plenty as well.

why is it this Google search with time has not dismissed the case???

I think it was cuz pages ago that said something on that order (someone did) that IF the time of it is such and not such OH BOY. WELL why isn't that already known? Probably because it isn't would be my guess. If there was that kind of hot potato would it not be used by now???
 

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