Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

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This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 
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The data will tell them if it was deleted and recovered or not. So yes, it's pretty obvious it was actually deleted.
Yeah I know and believe I did hear to which she answered "not by me".

I don't doubt it was deleted and intentionally so, I think I've said that. So did who I was watching but it still does not make Karen framed nor does it mean she didn't hit him nor there was some brawl in the home. It is NOT a good thing for the case of course and unfortunate.

The investigation was far from great.

I've said all of that.

I don't know that they will get a conviction. Hard to say although a lot of people have not been up yet, ME and more. A bit more awake now and that comes back to me.

It also isn't like McCabe is the perp and wiped her phone. All of that is yes, hard to believe was accidental. Please note, see, I said this. Lol.

Emma Daybell could actually help out here too and claim to be the one that did the Google search lol.

I'm under no illusions that she did not perhaps delete things not want seen but it does not make me think it was all about killing John and framing Karen for it for a moment.
 

By Alysha Palumbo, Kaitlin McKinley Becker and Marc Fortier • Published May 24, 2024 • Updated on May 24, 2024 at 8:27 pm​


<snip>

Court is only scheduled to be in session in the Read case for one day next week, on Tuesday.

Brian Higgins testifies​

Higgins was the first witness to take the stand on Friday, shortly before 9:15 a.m.

He is a friend of Albert and was present at the party at Albert's home on Fairview Road hours before O'Keefe was found dead outside, according to court filings and witness testimony. He had previously exchanged flirtatious text messages with Read, according to court filings from the prosecution.

He is one of three men that Read's defense team has said had motive, opportunity and means to attack O'Keefe that night.

Prosecutors have said the defense's statements about Higgins lack evidence and make for a "fanciful" story.

Assistant District Attorney Adam Lally started by asking Higgins about the events of Jan. 28-29, 2022.

Higgins spoke of how he, Brian Albert, Kevin Albert and another officer had been in New York City on Jan. 28 to attend a police officer's funeral and drove back to Massachusetts that day ahead of an impending blizzard.

He said upon returning to Canton that night, he went to the Hillside Pub, where he was scheduled to meet Brian Albert. He said he drove his Jeep, which had a plow attached, to the bar, arriving there sometime after dark.

Higgins said Albert arrived around the same time, but he couldn't recall whether it was before or after him.

He said he spent about an hour there, having something to eat and drink, and Albert left about 15 minutes before him to go to the Waterfall Bar & Grill to meet his wife and family and possibly some other people. Higgins said Albert invited him to join them, and he did, arriving sometime around 9 p.m.

Higgins said O'Keefe and Read, both of whom he considered friends, were among the people at the Waterfall that night.

Higgins said the group eventually left the bar, and he and others were invited back to Brian Albert's home, where people were gathering for Albert's son's birthday. He said he wound up leaving the Albert home between 12:30 and 1 a.m. on Jan. 29, and said he was one of the first people to leave the gathering.

He testified that he never saw O'Keefe or Read at the Albert home. He said at one point he texted O'Keefe, "Where are you?" but never received a response.

After leaving the Albert home, Higgins said he went to the Canton Police Department, where he had an office and stored his ATF vehicles. He said he went there to move his work vehicles to a different area of the parking lot so the lot could be plowed that night.

From there, he said he went home and had something to eat, had a couple of drinks and went to sleep.

Higgins said he woke up that morning around 6:30 to his work and personal phones going off. He said Canton Police Chief Kenneth Berkowitz and Brian Albert were both calling him. He said he blew off Berkowitz's call given the early hour but then became a bit concerned when he saw Albert calling so early after being up late the night before.

He said after learning that O'Keefe had been found on the Alberts' lawn, he went straight to the Alberts' home on Fairview Road. He also detailed his interview with state police investigators looking into O'Keefe's death, including how they looked through his past texts with O'Keefe.

Higgins also testified about the only time he visited O'Keefe's home, on Jan. 16, 2022, for the end of a New England Patriots' game. He said he arrived well into the second half, and O'Keefe and Read were both there.

"I felt bad I had never been over there," he said. "I had been asked repeatedly. I knew it was probably going to be the last game of the season."

While he was there, he said he played video games with O'Keefe's nephew.

Higgins became emotional during this portion of the testimony, tearing up as he recalled the encounter.

After the morning break, Higgins testified that on Jan. 12, 2022, he received a text from Read. It was the first time she had ever texted him, he said.

"Hey Brian, it's the weedwhacker," Read's text read.

Higgins responded with a question mark.

He said the text from Read was based on an interaction he had with her, "kind of a nickname that she adopted."

Higgins said one day when he was leaving his home in Canton, traveling down Pleasant Street, he saw Read along the side of O'Keefe's house, using a weed trimmer. He said he beeped the horn, and she gave him the finger, apparently not recognizing him. So he spun the vehicle around and pulled up to roll down the window.

He said she told him to "Get the (expletive) away from her," and that her boyfriend was a Boston cop. At that point, she then realized who it was, and Higgins said the "weedwhacker" comment became a running joke of sorts.

Higgins then went over several other text messages between he and Read, where Higgins asked how she got his phone number.

The text conversation continued, with the two of them talking about Higgins possibly joining Read and O'Keefe on a vacation to Florida, and Read and O'Keefe possibly joining Higgins on a trip to Nashville.

At one point, Read said to Higgins, "You're kind of a loner. Which I used to be."

"Not really, I have a ton of buddies but I only let a handful of friends in that I am tight with," Higgins said. "So you think you got me figured out?"

The text exchange continued, with Higgins and Read discussing how Higgins' dad died of cancer in 2020.

They also spoke about a former girlfriend of Higgins, and he told her they had broken up a while back.

At one point Read invited Higgins to hang out with her and O'Keefe, but he said he didn't want to intrude on their couples' night.

"Just stop being so anti-couples," Read responded. "Most couples don't even like each other."

"Name a few," Higgins said.

"Name a few? I don't know...all of them? They all want to hang out w single ppl," Read said.

At one point during the conversation, Read texted Higgins, "You're hot."

He responded. "Are you serious or messing with me?"

"No I'm serious," Read said.

"Feeling is mutual," Higgins said. "Is that bad? How long have you thought that???"

Read than asked if Higgins was OK driving, saying she'd rather he stay at the house where she and O'Keefe lived.

Higgins said that text exchange occurred on a night when he had visited the O'Keefe home. On that evening when he left the house, he said Read "planted a kiss" on his lips. He described it as a romantic kiss, "Not like a friend."

Going back to the text exchanges, Higgins said, "I wish. I think you're messing with me."

"Where did these feelings come from?" he asked Read.

Higgins said his entire text communication between he and Read took place between Jan. 12 and Jan. 29, 2022, the day O'Keefe died.

"I was basically trying to sus out what the intentions were of the defendant. Was the defendant interested in me, was she at the end of her relationship with John, was she trying to weaponize me against John and put me in the middle? There was numerous things going on... I was having a hard time accepting what was happening."

Read then asked if Higgins liked her, and he said he did.

"You think you can handle me? I thought you were happy," Higgins said.

"How do you know if I'm happy??" Read asked.

"I just assumed," Higgins replied.

He told Read he had always thought she was attractive, smart and witty, but he didn't think she was interested.

At one point, Read said, "Hey-- we're single and we don't have kids. We can do whatever we want."

Read then asked Higgins to come over to her house in Mansfield.

"What do you want Karen. You looked great tonight," Higgins said.

At one point in the text exchange, he asked if Read and O'Keefe were breaking up or staying together.

"I don't know. He hooked up w another girl on vacation. I am very close to his niece.. it is a very (expletive) up situation."

"We went away for New Years. The four of us. I put the kids to be and found him in the lobby of our hotel all over one of our friend. whatever. It doesn't matter," Read added.

Higgins said he continued to be suspect of whether Read was really interested in him, if her relationship with O'Keefe was over or what the status of the relationship was.

"What do you want from me?" Read asked Higgins at one point

"What's on the table?" he replied.

"What do you want ideally?" she asked.

"The real deal," he replied.

"Doesn't exist," Read said.

"I thought you were in this happy relationship," Higgins said later.

"Everyone is happy at the Hillside!" she replied, referring to the bar.

"It's just a very very complicated dynamic with the four of us. He isn't cut out for what he's doing. And the kids present constant issues," Read said.

Higgins talked about how he was once married to someone with a young child, but was now divorced.

"I try very hard but they are very spoiled. And they're not my family," Read said. And she said O'Keefe got "drunk and sloppy" on New Year's Eve while they were away, "and that has really affected me."

"He was a puddle all day and then disappeared," she added when Higgins asked her what O'Keefe had done. "Then I found him all over friend's sister in the lobby of our hotel. And she's gross, which I think may actually be worse. Not sure."

Read then asked Higgins if he wanted to meet for a drink. But he said he had his work truck with him and couldn't meet up. Higgins said Read extended similar invitations on other occasions as well.

Read also told Higgins that O'Keefe suspected that something might be going on between them, saying he had even showed her Ring camera footage of when Read walked Higgins out of the house.

Higgins also testified about how eventually, he and Read met up for a drink at his house in West Roxbury. He said she wasn't there long.

"It was, it was kind of more of this. It was kind of a... it wasn't an interrogation, it was a face to vace version of trying to sus out and vet like, what this was all about," Higgins testified. "I'm not proud of these text messages. It is what it is. I'll take responsibility for them, but John was a friend... If they were at the end of the relationship, they were at the end of the relationship, but I wasn't going to have someone utilize me, weaponize me against someone I liked. It was a weird experience."

Lally finished his questioning just before 12:30 p.m., and defense attorney Alan Jackson began cross-examining Higgins.

Jackson asked about the morning of Jan. 29, 2022, when O'Keefe's body was found on the Alberts' lawn on Fairview Road in Canton, and about his friendship with the Albert family and other powerful people in town.

"It's fair to say that you know the Albert family fairly well," Jackson said.

Jackson also asked Higgins about the Jan. 16, 2022, date when Higgins went to O'Keefe's house to watch the Patriots game, the day that Read gave him a kiss as he left the home.

"After that incident, it's safe to say you exchanged flirtatious texts with Ms. Read, correct?" Jackson asked.

"I did," Higgins said.

Higgins said he never had any other physical, intimate contact with Read. Jackson asked if Higgins had romantic feelings for Read, but Higgins wouldn't agree to that.

"I was attracted to her. I thought she was an attractive woman," he said.

Higgins also acknolwedged that Read never expressed any hatred toward O'Keefe.

Court broke for lunch around 1 p.m., with Higgins expected to return to the stand after the break.

After the lunch break, Jackson zeroed in on a series of texts between Higgins and Read on Jan. 23, 2022, where Higgins was asking why he hadn't heard from her in a while.

After several texts back and forth that day, Higgins acknowledged that he didn't hear from Read again until he saw her at the Waterfall on Jan. 28, 2022. He also said he shared with a work supervisor that Read had once kissed him.

"What I shared with my boss was the fact that she kissed me, that was it," he said. But Higgins said he never discussed his interest in Read with Brian Albert.

"It's just something I wouldn't talk about," he said.

Jackson also asked Higgins about the night at the Waterfall, specifically whether Read greeted her when he walked in.

"In my opinion, she was working the room, saying hello, catching up," Higgins said. He acknowledged that Read didn't say hello to him but said it didn't upset him.

Higgins did say, however, that he texted Read that evening saying, "Um, well..." but she never responded.

The defense moved on to a line of questioning about Higgins time in the Albert home, including what spaces he’d been in and the layout of the house.

Jackson then pressed Higgins on previous testimony he made concerning the night of O’Keefe’s death, focusing in on testimony Higgins gave about a male who showed up at the house. Higgins maintained that he wasn’t sure if the male he saw – who he described as tall and dark haired – actually entered the house. The defense pushed this point, trying to get Higgins to give a yes or no answer about whether the man came inside, apparently trying to call his previous testimony into question. The judge eventually shut the line of questioning down.

Jackson then began asking questions about the time Higgins left the Albert house on Jan. 29. Higgins said he left between 12:30 a.m. and 1 a.m., and went to the Canton Police Department to move vehicles around. He said he never saw a body on the front lawn at 34 Fairview as he was driving off.

The defense then began a line of questioning concerning Brian Albert's activities when he returned home. Specifically, pointing to phone records that show a 1 second phone call made from Brian Albert to Higgins at 2:22 a.m. and a follow up call immediately afterward from Higgins to Albert, lasting about 22 seconds. Higgins testified that he did not recall making that phone call and claimed there was no conversation.

Jackson honed in on this point, saying that in previous testimony Higgins suggested it may have been a "butt dial."

“Did you ever previously testify that you did in fact make the call but you did not have a conversation during the call?”

“What I think I testified was something must have happened, but I didn’t make any phone call," Higgins said.

Jackson tried to paint this as an example of Higgins lying under oath, which he denied.

“I always tell the truth," Higgins said on the stand.

The cross-examination then continued in chronological order, with Higgins describing going over to the Albert household when he learned of what happened through a phone call from Brian Albert that morning. He described being at the house with Brian and Nicole Albert and Jennifer and Matthew McCabe, and said Julie Albert arrived after he did.

When questioned on whether they discussed the case, he said the group was trying to understand what happened.

“People were in shock at the table trying to figure out what happened. The math didn’t make sense. John and the defendant never showed up. People were in shock.”

Higgins said he left the Albert household at some point later that morning and wound up back at the Canton Police Department. At this point, Jackson brought out a series of card swipe access records from the building, asking Higgins to review various times and spaces his card was used. This was done to establish that Higgins spent hours at Canton PD that day, and had access to the sallyport where evidence from the case, including Karen Read's SUV, was eventually brought in.

Were you in the sallyport at 5:36 when the car was delivered?" Jackon asked.

“I don’t have any recollection of that, no," Higgins said.

Jackson also asked Higgins if he was speaking with Canton police investigators about the case that day and passing information along to Brian Albert, pointing to phone calls with Kevin Albert and Canton Police Chief Ken Berkowitz. Higgins did not deny the possibility that he spoke to the men, calling them friends, but he did deny funneling information about the case.

“I had conversations with Brian Albert. John was found on his lawn. Yes of course I had conversations with him.”

Court ended on the topic of Higgins' actions concerning his phone records. Higgins testified that he asked another ATF agent, who he described as his best friend, the best way to remove a string of text messages from his phone to provide the information to Massachusetts State Police. That friend has some expertise in computer forensics, Higgins said.

He claimed he was trying to help investigators with the information, though Jackson pointed out that he could have provided his entire phone instead of cherry-picking information. After the judge paused questioning to address potential concerns about Higgins' testimony on the subject with his attorney, the jury returned for a few minutes before court went into recess.

The day ended on a tense note, with Jackson drilling down on the point that Higgins ultimately threw away his phone. Higgins claimed there was nothing unusual about it and that he had "every right to do that."
 
But now it is all of them involved in it. It's the exact same thing just with an opposite mission. It's the same about of people involved conspiring either way.
Only one way included Karen, she was one of them. Only when it didn't did there become a problem. She'd have been just fine had this all been shoved under the rug or a slap on the wrist with them all working together to do so to cover her, their own drinking and driving and more. And it would not be where it is at. WHO did SHE call that morning?
 
I expect you meant not long after. You mean of J McCabe? Surprised I know but that's what they were talking of last night. Sounded to me like she held her own and won the round.... I assume you mean it was fiery and a constant go round? I may have to try to find a minute to watch that one but on the other hand I don't need to be dizzy or sick and it may just irritate me lol.
Lol!
I was referring to the cross exam of Brian Higgins. (Btw, texts between him and Read would blow your mind!)
Anyway, yeah, the defense have used the same approach throughout the trial but yesterday, it really got to me. Lol!
Re Jen, I'm very impressed by her for so many reasons. Indeed, many reasons.
 
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@kdg411 What's say you?
The search was absolutely made at 2:27. The database would log that as it happened and will not be overwritten. Apple has structured the safeguarding around a db-wal file which is where this search would have been stored.

Reference

*(fyi .. my expertise is SQL database & C+ programming within software development)
 
Well I lost all my tabs yesterday and went to look to restore them and find history and not a single chance of doing so or finding such. And there was one tab I REALLY needed and two more I need badly enough. I don't know what happened other than it is a tiny keyboard and Chromebook versus laptop and windows and gone it was and done for. It has its benefits but it has serious drawbacks as well. Tiny screen. Etc.

And it depends also on your browser and the investigator's ability to determine the accuracy. If this was true why wasn't it used and case dismissed way back when?
The browser is key in this case because Safari has a very detailed database.
 

By Alysha Palumbo, Kaitlin McKinley Becker and Marc Fortier • Published May 24, 2024 • Updated on May 24, 2024 at 8:27 pm​


<snip>

Court is only scheduled to be in session in the Read case for one day next week, on Tuesday.

Brian Higgins testifies​

Higgins was the first witness to take the stand on Friday, shortly before 9:15 a.m.

He is a friend of Albert and was present at the party at Albert's home on Fairview Road hours before O'Keefe was found dead outside, according to court filings and witness testimony. He had previously exchanged flirtatious text messages with Read, according to court filings from the prosecution.

He is one of three men that Read's defense team has said had motive, opportunity and means to attack O'Keefe that night.

Prosecutors have said the defense's statements about Higgins lack evidence and make for a "fanciful" story.

Assistant District Attorney Adam Lally started by asking Higgins about the events of Jan. 28-29, 2022.

Higgins spoke of how he, Brian Albert, Kevin Albert and another officer had been in New York City on Jan. 28 to attend a police officer's funeral and drove back to Massachusetts that day ahead of an impending blizzard.

He said upon returning to Canton that night, he went to the Hillside Pub, where he was scheduled to meet Brian Albert. He said he drove his Jeep, which had a plow attached, to the bar, arriving there sometime after dark.

Higgins said Albert arrived around the same time, but he couldn't recall whether it was before or after him.

He said he spent about an hour there, having something to eat and drink, and Albert left about 15 minutes before him to go to the Waterfall Bar & Grill to meet his wife and family and possibly some other people. Higgins said Albert invited him to join them, and he did, arriving sometime around 9 p.m.

Higgins said O'Keefe and Read, both of whom he considered friends, were among the people at the Waterfall that night.

Higgins said the group eventually left the bar, and he and others were invited back to Brian Albert's home, where people were gathering for Albert's son's birthday. He said he wound up leaving the Albert home between 12:30 and 1 a.m. on Jan. 29, and said he was one of the first people to leave the gathering.

He testified that he never saw O'Keefe or Read at the Albert home. He said at one point he texted O'Keefe, "Where are you?" but never received a response.

After leaving the Albert home, Higgins said he went to the Canton Police Department, where he had an office and stored his ATF vehicles. He said he went there to move his work vehicles to a different area of the parking lot so the lot could be plowed that night.

From there, he said he went home and had something to eat, had a couple of drinks and went to sleep.

Higgins said he woke up that morning around 6:30 to his work and personal phones going off. He said Canton Police Chief Kenneth Berkowitz and Brian Albert were both calling him. He said he blew off Berkowitz's call given the early hour but then became a bit concerned when he saw Albert calling so early after being up late the night before.

He said after learning that O'Keefe had been found on the Alberts' lawn, he went straight to the Alberts' home on Fairview Road. He also detailed his interview with state police investigators looking into O'Keefe's death, including how they looked through his past texts with O'Keefe.

Higgins also testified about the only time he visited O'Keefe's home, on Jan. 16, 2022, for the end of a New England Patriots' game. He said he arrived well into the second half, and O'Keefe and Read were both there.

"I felt bad I had never been over there," he said. "I had been asked repeatedly. I knew it was probably going to be the last game of the season."

While he was there, he said he played video games with O'Keefe's nephew.

Higgins became emotional during this portion of the testimony, tearing up as he recalled the encounter.

After the morning break, Higgins testified that on Jan. 12, 2022, he received a text from Read. It was the first time she had ever texted him, he said.

"Hey Brian, it's the weedwhacker," Read's text read.

Higgins responded with a question mark.

He said the text from Read was based on an interaction he had with her, "kind of a nickname that she adopted."

Higgins said one day when he was leaving his home in Canton, traveling down Pleasant Street, he saw Read along the side of O'Keefe's house, using a weed trimmer. He said he beeped the horn, and she gave him the finger, apparently not recognizing him. So he spun the vehicle around and pulled up to roll down the window.

He said she told him to "Get the (expletive) away from her," and that her boyfriend was a Boston cop. At that point, she then realized who it was, and Higgins said the "weedwhacker" comment became a running joke of sorts.

Higgins then went over several other text messages between he and Read, where Higgins asked how she got his phone number.

The text conversation continued, with the two of them talking about Higgins possibly joining Read and O'Keefe on a vacation to Florida, and Read and O'Keefe possibly joining Higgins on a trip to Nashville.

At one point, Read said to Higgins, "You're kind of a loner. Which I used to be."

"Not really, I have a ton of buddies but I only let a handful of friends in that I am tight with," Higgins said. "So you think you got me figured out?"

The text exchange continued, with Higgins and Read discussing how Higgins' dad died of cancer in 2020.

They also spoke about a former girlfriend of Higgins, and he told her they had broken up a while back.

At one point Read invited Higgins to hang out with her and O'Keefe, but he said he didn't want to intrude on their couples' night.

"Just stop being so anti-couples," Read responded. "Most couples don't even like each other."

"Name a few," Higgins said.

"Name a few? I don't know...all of them? They all want to hang out w single ppl," Read said.

At one point during the conversation, Read texted Higgins, "You're hot."

He responded. "Are you serious or messing with me?"

"No I'm serious," Read said.

"Feeling is mutual," Higgins said. "Is that bad? How long have you thought that???"

Read than asked if Higgins was OK driving, saying she'd rather he stay at the house where she and O'Keefe lived.

Higgins said that text exchange occurred on a night when he had visited the O'Keefe home. On that evening when he left the house, he said Read "planted a kiss" on his lips. He described it as a romantic kiss, "Not like a friend."

Going back to the text exchanges, Higgins said, "I wish. I think you're messing with me."

"Where did these feelings come from?" he asked Read.

Higgins said his entire text communication between he and Read took place between Jan. 12 and Jan. 29, 2022, the day O'Keefe died.

"I was basically trying to sus out what the intentions were of the defendant. Was the defendant interested in me, was she at the end of her relationship with John, was she trying to weaponize me against John and put me in the middle? There was numerous things going on... I was having a hard time accepting what was happening."

Read then asked if Higgins liked her, and he said he did.

"You think you can handle me? I thought you were happy," Higgins said.

"How do you know if I'm happy??" Read asked.

"I just assumed," Higgins replied.

He told Read he had always thought she was attractive, smart and witty, but he didn't think she was interested.

At one point, Read said, "Hey-- we're single and we don't have kids. We can do whatever we want."

Read then asked Higgins to come over to her house in Mansfield.

"What do you want Karen. You looked great tonight," Higgins said.

At one point in the text exchange, he asked if Read and O'Keefe were breaking up or staying together.

"I don't know. He hooked up w another girl on vacation. I am very close to his niece.. it is a very (expletive) up situation."

"We went away for New Years. The four of us. I put the kids to be and found him in the lobby of our hotel all over one of our friend. whatever. It doesn't matter," Read added.

Higgins said he continued to be suspect of whether Read was really interested in him, if her relationship with O'Keefe was over or what the status of the relationship was.

"What do you want from me?" Read asked Higgins at one point

"What's on the table?" he replied.

"What do you want ideally?" she asked.

"The real deal," he replied.

"Doesn't exist," Read said.

"I thought you were in this happy relationship," Higgins said later.

"Everyone is happy at the Hillside!" she replied, referring to the bar.

"It's just a very very complicated dynamic with the four of us. He isn't cut out for what he's doing. And the kids present constant issues," Read said.

Higgins talked about how he was once married to someone with a young child, but was now divorced.

"I try very hard but they are very spoiled. And they're not my family," Read said. And she said O'Keefe got "drunk and sloppy" on New Year's Eve while they were away, "and that has really affected me."

"He was a puddle all day and then disappeared," she added when Higgins asked her what O'Keefe had done. "Then I found him all over friend's sister in the lobby of our hotel. And she's gross, which I think may actually be worse. Not sure."

Read then asked Higgins if he wanted to meet for a drink. But he said he had his work truck with him and couldn't meet up. Higgins said Read extended similar invitations on other occasions as well.

Read also told Higgins that O'Keefe suspected that something might be going on between them, saying he had even showed her Ring camera footage of when Read walked Higgins out of the house.

Higgins also testified about how eventually, he and Read met up for a drink at his house in West Roxbury. He said she wasn't there long.

"It was, it was kind of more of this. It was kind of a... it wasn't an interrogation, it was a face to vace version of trying to sus out and vet like, what this was all about," Higgins testified. "I'm not proud of these text messages. It is what it is. I'll take responsibility for them, but John was a friend... If they were at the end of the relationship, they were at the end of the relationship, but I wasn't going to have someone utilize me, weaponize me against someone I liked. It was a weird experience."

Lally finished his questioning just before 12:30 p.m., and defense attorney Alan Jackson began cross-examining Higgins.

Jackson asked about the morning of Jan. 29, 2022, when O'Keefe's body was found on the Alberts' lawn on Fairview Road in Canton, and about his friendship with the Albert family and other powerful people in town.

"It's fair to say that you know the Albert family fairly well," Jackson said.

Jackson also asked Higgins about the Jan. 16, 2022, date when Higgins went to O'Keefe's house to watch the Patriots game, the day that Read gave him a kiss as he left the home.

"After that incident, it's safe to say you exchanged flirtatious texts with Ms. Read, correct?" Jackson asked.

"I did," Higgins said.

Higgins said he never had any other physical, intimate contact with Read. Jackson asked if Higgins had romantic feelings for Read, but Higgins wouldn't agree to that.

"I was attracted to her. I thought she was an attractive woman," he said.

Higgins also acknolwedged that Read never expressed any hatred toward O'Keefe.

Court broke for lunch around 1 p.m., with Higgins expected to return to the stand after the break.

After the lunch break, Jackson zeroed in on a series of texts between Higgins and Read on Jan. 23, 2022, where Higgins was asking why he hadn't heard from her in a while.

After several texts back and forth that day, Higgins acknowledged that he didn't hear from Read again until he saw her at the Waterfall on Jan. 28, 2022. He also said he shared with a work supervisor that Read had once kissed him.

"What I shared with my boss was the fact that she kissed me, that was it," he said. But Higgins said he never discussed his interest in Read with Brian Albert.

"It's just something I wouldn't talk about," he said.

Jackson also asked Higgins about the night at the Waterfall, specifically whether Read greeted her when he walked in.

"In my opinion, she was working the room, saying hello, catching up," Higgins said. He acknowledged that Read didn't say hello to him but said it didn't upset him.

Higgins did say, however, that he texted Read that evening saying, "Um, well..." but she never responded.

The defense moved on to a line of questioning about Higgins time in the Albert home, including what spaces he’d been in and the layout of the house.

Jackson then pressed Higgins on previous testimony he made concerning the night of O’Keefe’s death, focusing in on testimony Higgins gave about a male who showed up at the house. Higgins maintained that he wasn’t sure if the male he saw – who he described as tall and dark haired – actually entered the house. The defense pushed this point, trying to get Higgins to give a yes or no answer about whether the man came inside, apparently trying to call his previous testimony into question. The judge eventually shut the line of questioning down.

Jackson then began asking questions about the time Higgins left the Albert house on Jan. 29. Higgins said he left between 12:30 a.m. and 1 a.m., and went to the Canton Police Department to move vehicles around. He said he never saw a body on the front lawn at 34 Fairview as he was driving off.

The defense then began a line of questioning concerning Brian Albert's activities when he returned home. Specifically, pointing to phone records that show a 1 second phone call made from Brian Albert to Higgins at 2:22 a.m. and a follow up call immediately afterward from Higgins to Albert, lasting about 22 seconds. Higgins testified that he did not recall making that phone call and claimed there was no conversation.

Jackson honed in on this point, saying that in previous testimony Higgins suggested it may have been a "butt dial."

“Did you ever previously testify that you did in fact make the call but you did not have a conversation during the call?”

“What I think I testified was something must have happened, but I didn’t make any phone call," Higgins said.

Jackson tried to paint this as an example of Higgins lying under oath, which he denied.

“I always tell the truth," Higgins said on the stand.

The cross-examination then continued in chronological order, with Higgins describing going over to the Albert household when he learned of what happened through a phone call from Brian Albert that morning. He described being at the house with Brian and Nicole Albert and Jennifer and Matthew McCabe, and said Julie Albert arrived after he did.

When questioned on whether they discussed the case, he said the group was trying to understand what happened.

“People were in shock at the table trying to figure out what happened. The math didn’t make sense. John and the defendant never showed up. People were in shock.”

Higgins said he left the Albert household at some point later that morning and wound up back at the Canton Police Department. At this point, Jackson brought out a series of card swipe access records from the building, asking Higgins to review various times and spaces his card was used. This was done to establish that Higgins spent hours at Canton PD that day, and had access to the sallyport where evidence from the case, including Karen Read's SUV, was eventually brought in.

Were you in the sallyport at 5:36 when the car was delivered?" Jackon asked.

“I don’t have any recollection of that, no," Higgins said.

Jackson also asked Higgins if he was speaking with Canton police investigators about the case that day and passing information along to Brian Albert, pointing to phone calls with Kevin Albert and Canton Police Chief Ken Berkowitz. Higgins did not deny the possibility that he spoke to the men, calling them friends, but he did deny funneling information about the case.

“I had conversations with Brian Albert. John was found on his lawn. Yes of course I had conversations with him.”

Court ended on the topic of Higgins' actions concerning his phone records. Higgins testified that he asked another ATF agent, who he described as his best friend, the best way to remove a string of text messages from his phone to provide the information to Massachusetts State Police. That friend has some expertise in computer forensics, Higgins said.

He claimed he was trying to help investigators with the information, though Jackson pointed out that he could have provided his entire phone instead of cherry-picking information. After the judge paused questioning to address potential concerns about Higgins' testimony on the subject with his attorney, the jury returned for a few minutes before court went into recess.

The day ended on a tense note, with Jackson drilling down on the point that Higgins ultimately threw away his phone. Higgins claimed there was nothing unusual about it and that he had "every right to do that."
Boy she's a real winner. Already knew a bit but what a game player. I don't doubt he wasn't faithful but she clearly was not or wouldn't have been in a heartbeat either. Definitely trying to stir trouble. And the time frame is sure the HE77 interesting as well. This is just reading it and not hearing it but strikes me as a pretty darned strong witness.

She's trouble and pretty dam*Ed full of herself. I already had that impression and things just keep confirming it. And game playing and vindictive as well.
 
Lol!
I was referring to the cross exam of Brian Higgins. (Btw, texts between him and Read would blow your mind!)
Anyway, yeah, the defense have used the same approach throughout the trial but yesterday, it really got to me. Lol!
Re Jen, I'm very impressed by her for so many reasons. Indeed, many reasons.
I just NOW finished the long posts about his testimony. I had not seen it yet when I responded to yours here. Yeah, saw a lot about all the posts. She's a real loyal, faithful gf to John there isn't she... Not. Doesn't even sound like she LIKES him at that point. Yeah I heard J McCabe was very strong and not sure I will ever get time but if do, may have to watch that one.

Question, did John have his niece and nephew when he and Karen first started dating or did that happen after? Assuming he had them as she was referred to as a nanny or babysitter with benefits...
 
I could do a whole conversation about phone stories. Like sitting across the room seeing it light up and start dialing someone just for starters. I could tell a LOT of things about such, not mine but people who use them and all apps and such routinely which I DO NOT.

That said, it doesn't mean I believe that's necessarily what happened here and things weren't deleted, they maybe were. It though on its own does not make me believe the defense story. Going to take a whole picture and I'm not seeing such.
We don't know the defense 'story' yet though. The Commonwealth is still presenting its case in chief.
 
The search was absolutely made at 2:27. The database would log that as it happened and will not be overwritten. Apple has structured the safeguarding around a db-wal file which is where this search would have been stored.

Reference

*(fyi .. my expertise is SQL database & C+ programming within software development)
Hi you! That's all Greek to me no surprise lol.

Clearly that search is not indicative of enough of anything or proven or this case would have been dismissed. I also can see some scenarios for it that do not mean he was killed in the home by someone else. One of the biggest problems for me in this case is the defense's alternate theory. And that people are wildly one way and embrace it all or the other way where more logically it all comes to somewhere in between. And a lot of it stems from the fact they or most were all drinking, driving, partying and one of their own died.

The HIggins thing is quite interesting and she initiated it, he didn't.

There's a real lack of moral adults in this case, maybe a few, hard to say.

Karen and John clearly had a rocky, far from solid, tumultuous relationship. I see a few remarks in testimony referring to "their" house and yet they did not live together. Both cheating or more than willing to cheat and playing games and her trying clearly to hurt by going after someone he knew and was friends with. Sounds like he did something similar.

All of it, every bit of it and more is why this case just doesn't take over me, I don't like most of the people overall and the entire scene and their own hypocrisy and self specialness. Such always turns me off.

Yet here I am but mostly because little time, back to freaking work today, so tired, WHEN will I get a real vacation and like week off I don't know but anyhow, it is the thread that's active this morning or I would not probably be in this one over another. I could go YT but just started here on Daybell and such and where I've stayed since getting up and TRYING to face a new week of long hours.

It sounds to me (did not see of course) that Jen was a strong witness and seems Higgins was too. Would you disagree? I'm NOT saying her phone deletions and things go in her favor but overall.

Happy to "see" you. Haven't seen you even in here in a bit. I somehow end up in here on and off, probably because like I said it is where I find activity and then respond to who has responded to me although overall during the week and such, Daybell is the busy one I can barely keep up with. And I touch others as the get new posts that I follow when I get time. This past week I had little and could hardly keep up with the main one as my time was non-existent.

Hope all is well with you and all here. I'm sorry I'm not on the bus of Karen is innocent. However, I'm not enamored with many or the investigation and not sure the verdict that will result or that there won't be one. Far from over though and waiting to see IF I follow all or have time to, not my first interest as all know.

I suppose you are dealing with all school year end stuff, just dawned on me it is about that time isn't it. I do appreciate that this case is a pet one to a few of you, largely how I ever ended up in it. I get that. :hugs:
 
The search was absolutely made at 2:27. The database would log that as it happened and will not be overwritten. Apple has structured the safeguarding around a db-wal file which is where this search would have been stored.

Reference

*(fyi .. my expertise is SQL database & C+ programming within software development)
Thank you for this info @kdg411. To clarify for myself, the WAL container file records the individual searches time stamp within the file, separate from the WAL file container creation time stamp (Creation of the WAL file through some automated process when one gets "full", I assume)
 
Only one way included Karen, she was one of them. Only when it didn't did there become a problem. She'd have been just fine had this all been shoved under the rug or a slap on the wrist with them all working together to do so to cover her, their own drinking and driving and more. And it would not be where it is at. WHO did SHE call that morning?
(Right? Let's have a look at Read's phone records, lol!)
Anyway, the way I see it is that the officers on the scene gathered info as best they could. I say best they could because Read- the last known person to be with John- was of no help in that regard, indeed, she was a hinderance- but anyway, no one- most importantly, the officers, jumped to conclusions as to what happened.
In other words, they did what I'd expect, which is to gather info and not jump to any conclusions.
(I remember that early on, you'd asked about this next part.) What followed is that once officers had basic info from Read and Kerry, Kerry left the scene with Read to pick-up John's parents and while in Kerry's vehicle, Read was on the phone with her parents threatening to kill herself and so her father called the police and asked that Read be held for a psychiatric evaluation and Kerry then received a call from an officer at the scene to bring her back and from there, Read was taken to the hospital in an ambulance.
In the meantime, officers gathered info from those in the house.
 
The browser is key in this case because Safari has a very detailed database.
And so, meaning what though?

If it is so damning and so clear and proves something or everything, then why is it still in question and the entire case not dismissed? Seriously asking.
 
Thank you for this info @kdg411. To clarify for myself, the WAL container file records the individual searches time stamp within the file, separate from the WAL file container creation time stamp (Creation of the WAL file through some automated process when one gets "full", I assume)
This is 100% correct. There is no way to dispute that the search was made at that time.
 
Thank you for this info @kdg411. To clarify for myself, the WAL container file records the individual searches time stamp within the file, separate from the WAL file container creation time stamp (Creation of the WAL file through some automated process when one gets "full", I assume)
Two Greeks in here lol talking Greek. I want to read the link but not sure I'd understand it and not taking the time at the moment. Already I have not started doing what I should before a ten hour plus day and new week.

SQL, WAL ,etc. is twilight zone for me. Lol. I thought of Sasquatch Lake and Wall Drug on reading both. Seriously.

Seriously though, if the time is absolutely true, then it still doesn't support the defense theory or answer it all. It may in fact mean something else all together, not good for the searcher, but certainly not clearing Karen either.
 
Two Greeks in here lol talking Greek. I want to read the link but not sure I'd understand it and not taking the time at the moment. Already I have not started doing what I should before a ten hour plus day and new week.

SQL, WAL ,etc. is twilight zone for me. Lol. I thought of Sasquatch Lake and Wall Drug on reading both. Seriously.

Seriously though, if the time is absolutely true, then it still doesn't support the defense theory or answer it all. It may in fact mean something else all together, not good for the searcher, but certainly not clearing Karen either.
Nothing has to clear Karen; reasonable doubt though?
 
(Right? Let's have a look at Read's phone records, lol!)
Anyway, the way I see it is that the officers on the scene gathered info as best they could. I say best they could because Read- the last known person to be with John- was of no help in that regard, indeed, she was a hinderance- but anyway, no one- most importantly, the officers, jumped to conclusions as to what happened.
In other words, they did what I'd expect, which is to gather info and not jump to any conclusions.
(I remember that early on, you'd asked about this next part.) What followed is that once officers had basic info from Read and Kerry, Kerry left the scene with Read to pick-up John's parents and while in Kerry's vehicle, Read was on the phone with her parents threatening to kill herself and so her father called the police and asked that Read be held for a psychiatric evaluation and Kerry then received a call from an officer at the scene to bring her back and from there, Read was taken to the hospital in an ambulance.
In the meantime, officers gathered info from those in the house.
Actually I am wondering about Read's phone records... Do we have them?

Yes she was a hysterical hindrance. Ended up in psych eval.

I should know but I really need to get moving, I haven't, and at least starting to get ready, and just a bit much stuffed in on Daybell and life and this one isn't primary to me. Do they have her records and do WE? I'd almost doubt we do because it is always defense that puts on the PR show out on SM etc. and they aren't going to share those and prosecutions keep mum... I just have some thoughts on those and what they MIGHT show or at least I wonder...

I'm sorry to say this but she sounds like quite the _________-. I can't come up with the term I want that would describe what I feel I see. Not one word either, a term, phrase. I mean Karen. I can think of several individual adjectives and phrases, not all of which are the same.

She has to live with herself and what she did but I'm not sure that's hard for her. At that time she was freaking out of course, for self and worry imo. Jmo, she has not been convicted and may not be, no idea.

I can't disagree that this investigation was not perfect. I don't though think intentionally necessarily. I think there are several factors for that.
 

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