"If...""
"If Miss Read drank alcohol after 12:45 a.m. and before her blood was drawn at 9:08 a.m., your entire calculation would be invalid," Little said. Roberts responded, "Yeah.""
Drive from Waterfall .. she was with a lot of cops including Officer John O'keefe. Every person who testified said Karen did not appear intoxicated.Which also leads to that if she was, why would cops allow her to drive away that night? You know, those that are supposed to be trained to notice that stuff and try at least to protect the public from them. Let alone invite hey to drive in your neighborhood and to your house in that state.
Karen & John left the Waterfall bar at approximately 12:10am on January 29th, 2022.At what time did cops let her drive away?
She was not tested by cops. She was at the bar partying with themI don't believe she was tested by cops. Cops just worked out the level she would have been at the time she dropped him off, based on the ER testing level at 9 a.m. ie approx 8.5 hours earlier.
And notice they did not say they asked her IF she had drank since with their answer. That seems like a very important variable in that answer doesn't it!"If..."
Plus, all the other cops they were at the bar with and meeting at the after party at a cops house.Drive from Waterfall .. she was with a lot of cops including Officer John O'keefe. Every person who testified said Karen did not appear intoxicated.
Karen & John left the Waterfall bar at approximately 12:10am on January 29th, 2022.
So what? That's not against the law AFAIK and especially as her partner was a cop.She was not tested by cops. She was at the bar partying with them
I'm not reading, only dropping and then leaving. I have asked before what his parents think and if the kids remember anything from that night and her getting "home" and never got an answer as I recall. So now I know the nephew was gone but the niece was home and had Read saying a thing or two to her...
s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-hXF3F9KLA
It is extremely one sided in here. Again that's okay but doesn't work when I'm looking to hear both sides. This fits right in with what I'd expect at 44 seconds in. I didn't even know but based on Karen's condition and reaction and all, I asked and wondered and now I know.
And if someone is going to tell me the niece lied well then you'd better explain why so sure she did and not Ms. Laughing Smirking Read. Jmo of course.
I also watched the brother's testimony, things that aren't talked of here, only one sided stuff is. And again that's fine but I finally had a chance to look at some of the other, not all but some. Wouldn't have probably lol if anything at all else had been on but it came up and so I did.
Karen didn't enter the party and noone seems to know whether the deceased did or not. I really don't see what all the cops at the bar have got to do with this. Unless they all went to the after party.Plus, all the other cops they were at the bar with and meeting at the after party at a cops house.
Driving drunk IS against the law no matter if you are s cup or not, isn't it?So what? That's not against the law AFAIK and especially as her partner was a cop.
They did! That's the entire point.Karen didn't enter the party and noone seems to know whether the deceased did or not. I really don't see what all the cops at the bar have got to do with this. Unless they all went to the after party.
While looking for the niece and nephew testimony I came across this. Very sad - he must have laid outside in the snow slowly dying while everyone partied on inside.ATF agent Brian Higgins to continue testimony in Karen Read trial: Watch live
The Karen Read murder trial will resume Tuesday after the long holiday weekend, and it will be the only day this week that court is scheduled to be in session in the case.www.necn.com
By Lauren Melendez, Sue O'Connell, Kaitlin McKinley Becker and Marc Fortier • Published May 28, 2024 • Updated on May 28, 2024 at 8:20 pm
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ER doctor who treated John O'Keefe testifies
After O'Keefe's niece and nephew concluded their testimony, Dr. Justin Rice, an emergency medicine physician at South Shore Health took the stand. He previously worked at Good Samaritan Hospital in Brockton for over a decade.
Rice treated O'Keefe when he was brought to Good Samaritan Hospital on Jan. 29, 2022, after he was found in the snow outside of the Albert home on Fairview Road.
"He was unresponsive and intubated, as in, with a breathing tube into his airway via his mouth," Rice said, describing O'Keefe's condition when he arrived at the hospital's emergency room. "He would have had CPR in progress, and also someone would have been ventilating his lungs..."
Rice said O'Keefe arrived in cardiac arrest, meaning his heart was not pumping blood and had no electrical activity of its own. He said his initial body temperature was low, about 80 degrees, which is consistent with hypothermia.
He said O'Keefe's time of death was 7:50 a.m.
Rice also said O'Keefe had abrasions or scratches on his right forearm.
The emergency room doctor said he also treated Read later that same morning.
She arrived at the hospital around 7:51 a.m. for a Section 12, an involuntary hospitalization for a mental health concern.
On cross-examination from defense attorney Elizabeth Little, Rice said he didn't recall treating Read or ordering her bloodwork.
He was asked if a firefighter ever approached him on Jan. 29, 2022, with information indicating that O'Keefe had been struck by a motor vehicle. Rice said he did not recall anyone telling him directly that the victim had been involved in a car accident.
"I think that on my note it says per EMS report, so one of the medics, as in one of the folks on the ambulance that brought Mr. O'Keefe in, as I recall it said something to the effect of 'Per EMS report, the patient may have been struck by a vehicle.'"
Little then showed Rice the report, which did not include any reference to the fact that O'Keefe might have been struck by a motor vehicle.
"In fact, there is no mention of a vehicle whatsoever, correct?" Little asked.
"That's correct," Rice replied.
Asked if he observed O'Keefe's injuries when he arrived at the hospital, Rice said he did observe scratches and abrasions on his right arm and a laceration above his eyelid. He had no injuries to his shoulders, chest, torso, back, ribs, hips, knees, shins, ankles or feet.
"From the neck down he did not have a single broken bone, right? You certainly didn't notate in your report that he had any broken bones, correct?" Little asked
"No, I did not," Rice replied.
But Rice said his focus at the time was in trying to revive O'Keefe, and not on every single detail of his injuries.
Court adjourned for lunch around 12:50 p.m. and is scheduled to resume at 1:30 p.m. Testimony is expected to continue until 4:30 p.m.
Yes of course it is but it hasn't been proved anyone was drunk driving so far has it? Partying in a bar, of itself, is not against the law.Driving drunk IS against the law no matter if you are s cup or not, isn't it?
This is all I have found so far....
WBZ reported that O’Keefe’s nephew testified that neither Read nor O’Keefe ever raised a hand at each other in anger. However, “there was a lot of disagreements and arguments,” the boy reportedly said.
According to WCVB, both children also described an incident where O’Keefe asked Read to leave his house and she refused.
“She said no. She was swearing. She got very loud,” O’Keefe’s niece said, per WCVB.
The couple’s relationship “was good at the beginning, but it was bad at the end,” the niece testified, according to WHDH....
Everyone except Karen and Brian evidently then right?They did! That's the entire point.
This is all I have found so far.