Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *MISTRIAL*

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This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 
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For those who do not understand or simply don't want to take the time to think about the facts let me post this tweet that explains the data that does not lie! And in case you choose not to click the link then I'll help and post the entire contents for you to digest. Oh, and if you do open the link read the attachments that are from the CW case in chief where it states that they believe Karen Read hit Officer John O'Keefe at 12:25AM on January 29th, 2022. Happy reading ;)




Why did Investigators Michael Proctor & Nicholas Guarino in the #KarenRead case use SARTopo App, a consumer Search and Rescue App, NOT a gold standard forensic tool or software used or relied upon by LE, using UNSPECIFIED location data from #JohnOKeefe’s iPhone’s Cached Locations, to go out to the scene and physically map points to give their “interpretation” of #JohnOKeefe's iPhone's location data? Not only is this unheard of in the digital forensic investigative world, but their described methodology has overwhelming potential for a lot of user error, thereby removing its ability for scientific repeatability or reproducibility–ultimately rendering it neither credible nor reliable forensic evidence–two important standards & best practices for digital forensics.

If others are able to find any examples of murder prosecutions where the SARTopo App was used to physically map digital forensic location phone data of an individual involved, please let me know. I could not find any application of SARTopo App in a forensic setting.

Lead Investigator Michael Proctor & Digital Forensics “Expert” Nicholas Guarino waited over 15 months after arresting Karen Read to interpret this critical location data which the state so desperately relies upon as their justification for not so much as even bothering to ASK the homeowner, Brian Albert if they could search inside his house where the victim, John O’Keefe had been invited to & dropped off at for an after-party just 6 hours before being found brutally assaulted and left for dead on that same front lawn.

Nobody was stopping Michael Proctor from ASKING to search inside the house. Why didn’t he? Perhaps his conflict of interest being lifelong family friends with his potential suspects, the Alberts & the McCabes, clouded his judgment? Or perhaps the fact that he NEVER went to the crime scene for the investigation he was leading? Yet to be answered.

This means at the time of the investigation & arrest, the state had ZERO evidence proving John didn’t go inside the house he was invited to other than testimony largely coming from the very witness, Jen McCabe, whose inconsistent interviews make her unreliable in addition to the very incriminating evidence found on her phone further inculpating her. In addition to Jen, the only other witnesses who were actually present at 34 Fairview during the time John was believed to be killed who were interviewed before Karen Read’s arrest were Jen’s husband, Matt McCabe, and Jen’s brother-in-law/the homeowner, Brian Albert.

Law Enforcement know that relying on witnesses as definitive proof is of course absurd, because since when are murderers honest & forthcoming? Data don’t lie. People do.

BACK TO THE DATA: To understand what is wrong with Proctor’s & Guarino’s "interpretation" of John’s GPS data, let’s first look at the gold standard approach–how LE & prosecutions across this country obtain this type of information.

HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE
The forensic gold standard for determining one's precise geolocation during a specific time is:
1) Investigators obtain the mobile device itself & the records from the cellular provider.
2) A forensic imaging tool like GrayKey is used to forensically image the phone’s contents, or essentially create a copy of all the data contained therein.
3) The contents of the phone’s image are uploaded into a forensic data recovery & extraction tool like Cellebrite or Axiom for review.
4) Cellphone records (per cellular provider) and cellphone data, (exported from Cellebrite or Axiom), are loaded into a call detail records (CDRs) & native location data forensic parsing tool/software, like CellHawk.
5) CellHawk parses, analyzes & maps location data from several sources including: cellular location records (when phones connect to various towers as they move around), native phone location data (from its apps), datasets from cellular carrier records, location data stored in SQLite, and can even map “interpersonal connections”, with an ability to animate more than 20 phones at once and “see how they move relative to each other".

HOW IT WAS DONE FOR JOHN’S PHONE:
1) Investigators obtained John’s iPhone but curiously did not obtain/utilize John’s cellphone carrier records for this investigation (tracking his phone's location).
2) Investigators claim to have forensically imaged John’s phone using GrayKey (1/31/2022).
3) Investigators uploaded John’s phone’s forensic image to Axiom.
4) Investigators exported UNSPECIFIED location data points from the phone’s Cached Locations and loaded them into the SARTopo Search and Rescue App.
5) Investigators began “measuring the APPROXIMATE location from where O'Keefe's body was discovered. To do this [they] reviewed the Canton PD dash camera video and the photos that were taken by Sgt. Goode when they were searching in the snow”.

From Lead Investigator Michael Proctor & Trooper Guarino’s 15-months after the fact GPS analysis, AFTER the defense had produced compelling evidence implicating members of Proctor’s “second family” & lifelong friends who were inside the house, and AFTER Proctor had already made the bold decision to arrest Karen Read-is it all that surprising that he confirmed his bias in his erroneous & unreliable “interpretation” of unspecified location data, abandoning all forensic SOP, to ultimately determine that ACTUALLY some of those data points DO place John inside the house? Just not for time long enough for Proctor to acknowledge that reality?

Did Proctor & Guarino physically plot ALL of the hundreds to potentially thousands of location data points that'd be parsed from John's native location data, CDRs' location data & cellular provider records location data? And if so, why did they not show them all in their report? Which ones are we not seeing?

Did Proctor & Guarino consider the very real phenomenon of GPS drift? The difference between your actual location & the location recorded by your phone’s A-GPS. Did Proctor consider the fact that all GPS systems have some amount of drift (including GPS-enabled smartphones which can drift by 16 feet or more)? What about the prevalent location data issues with Waze delay or approximate location? Or the effects on the precision of GPS capability relative to the strength of one's network connection OR the significant effect on signal strength due to things like the substantial overcast of a bomb cyclone snowstorm that was brewing overhead that night? How did Proctor & Guarino measure the data points they plotted? How do we know Proctor & Guarino accurately input each data point into the SARTopo app? How accurate and precise is the SARTopo app–an app that is NOT intended for this purpose, NOT used in forensic criminal investigations, and NOT used for obtaining forensic evidence by either LE or prosecutions across this country?

Did Proctor or Guarino consider the overwhelming sources for user error? Did they consider the fact that LAND SURVEYORS use lasers & LiDAR among other advanced technologies solely to measure & plot land? Did they utilize the same level of reliable technology to ensure their “interpretation” was either credible or reliable?

Why didn’t they show us the actual location data points they utilized to determine John’s phone did not go inside 34 Fairview? In Guarino’s GPS report, he selectively only shows 6 data points–John’s phone’s location spanning across 6 seconds–to determine he did not go inside the house. Why just these 6 data points or these 6 seconds?

The state eagerly claims this non-forensic analysis is somehow proof John’s phone did not go inside 34 Fairview. What proof do they have that John HIMSELF did not go inside 34 Fairview? This unreliable “evidence”, based on A-GPS data also relies on cellular network connection or Wi-Fi. What proof do they have that John’s phone wasn’t placed into airplane mode or turned off?

And lastly, does it make any sense to you that these two seasoned investigators would abandon all forensic investigative protocol to opt for a non-forensic tool/software not intended for this purpose, but rather a Search and Rescue & recreational consumer use app, physically go to the scene to physically “plot” out data stored on their computer by plugging it into said app to map it out with yardsticks or something? Instead of using a forensic software where they can simply, at the press of a button, plug ALL the data in including John’s cellphone carrier records–something containing abundant sources of location data notably LEFT OUT of their homemade GPS analysis?

Who opts for the more laborious, more cumbersome, non-forensic, less reliable, accurate or precise option, as Michael Proctor & Nicholas Guarino did? And additionally, if they’re able to establish such precision for John O’Keefe’s phone’s location during the time in question, why didn’t they do the same and produce the same report for Karen Read’s?

What was the forensic tool/software that Brian Tully used when he initially plotted the locations and movements of Karen Read using her cellphone carrier (Verizon) records during her morning search for John (as first referenced in the Commonwealth’s Statement of Case)?

So many questions, so little answers. Does this seem like the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard to you?

P.S. What I forgot to mention? The digital forensic expert, Richard Green, used by the defense ACTUALLY did use a forensic tool, specifically CellHawk, to parse & analyze the phone location data in this case. Particularly of note is the fact that for Jen McCabe's phone location data, the accuracy improves SIGNIFICANTLY upon her leaving the house & subsequently leaving the area of Fairview.

Might this diminished cellular reception in that area play a role in why relying on GPS data down to the meter is simply unreliable?

Come trial, whose GPS report would you trust more?
 
And because this user is better at articulating I'll post this link. More food for thought.



That awkward moment when the phone data doesn’t lie, but contradicts the Commonwealth’s entire theory! #KarenRea

Who had Officer #JohnOKeefe’s cellphone at 12:59:36am? Because according to the state, they say he was already struck & killed by this point.

From its own documents, they state “a check of the location data in Axiom shows the last location at 34 Fairview Road…at 12:25:36 a.m.”.

They also say: “The phone finally stops in between 34 and 32 Fairview Road in the area of the flag pole and fire hydrant at 12:24:40AM. The final point plotted was at 12:25:36AM when the phone stops showing any movement until the morning at 6:15:36AM”.

The Commonwealth claims that Officer O’Keefe is struck and killed at 12:25:36am because, according to them, his phone shows no more movement until 6:15:36am.

Not only is this directly refuted by the fact that John’s phone answered Jen McCabe’s call at 12:29:44am, and showed subsequent movement via Apple Health movement data, including several steps taken around 12:32am, but it’s also in direct contraction to the entry of location movement data at 12:59:36am on John’s phone.

So, who do you think was looking at Officer O’Keefe’s phone at 12:59:36am? According to court documents, his phone was found underneath him in the morning at the scene.

So whoever was looking at John’s phone at 12:59:36am had to have put his phone underneath him—directly implicating that individual in his murder, especially given the fact that Karen Read had long been home at that point, as she was home by 12:41am.

Also, has anyone heard any updates from the Commonwealth on who was driving the Ford Edge, spotted by snowplow driver Lucky Loughran between 2:30-3:00am, parked directly in front of the fire hydrant near where Officer O’Keefes body was later found?

You’d think Massachusetts State Police would prioritize investigating the murderers of a fellow Police Officer over flying out to California to interview a random woman about her communications with a journalist. But alas, I guess not for Officer O’Keefe?
 
And here is the link to document of plow driver, even though it is embedded in TB post:


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I'm still trying to reconcile the autopsy photos with KR killed him by hitting him with the Lexus.

Asked if he observed O'Keefe's injuries when he arrived at the hospital, Rice said he did observe scratches and abrasions on his right arm and a laceration above his eyelid. He had no injuries to his shoulders, chest, torso, back, ribs, hips, knees, shins, ankles or feet.

"From the neck down he did not have a single broken bone, right? You certainly didn't notate in your report that he had any broken bones, correct?" Little asked
 
And because this user is better at articulating I'll post this link. More food for thought.



That awkward moment when the phone data doesn’t lie, but contradicts the Commonwealth’s entire theory! #KarenRea

Who had Officer #JohnOKeefe’s cellphone at 12:59:36am? Because according to the state, they say he was already struck & killed by this point.

From its own documents, they state “a check of the location data in Axiom shows the last location at 34 Fairview Road…at 12:25:36 a.m.”.

They also say: “The phone finally stops in between 34 and 32 Fairview Road in the area of the flag pole and fire hydrant at 12:24:40AM. The final point plotted was at 12:25:36AM when the phone stops showing any movement until the morning at 6:15:36AM”.

The Commonwealth claims that Officer O’Keefe is struck and killed at 12:25:36am because, according to them, his phone shows no more movement until 6:15:36am.

Not only is this directly refuted by the fact that John’s phone answered Jen McCabe’s call at 12:29:44am, and showed subsequent movement via Apple Health movement data, including several steps taken around 12:32am, but it’s also in direct contraction to the entry of location movement data at 12:59:36am on John’s phone.

So, who do you think was looking at Officer O’Keefe’s phone at 12:59:36am? According to court documents, his phone was found underneath him in the morning at the scene.

So whoever was looking at John’s phone at 12:59:36am had to have put his phone underneath him—directly implicating that individual in his murder, especially given the fact that Karen Read had long been home at that point, as she was home by 12:41am.

Also, has anyone heard any updates from the Commonwealth on who was driving the Ford Edge, spotted by snowplow driver Lucky Loughran between 2:30-3:00am, parked directly in front of the fire hydrant near where Officer O’Keefes body was later found?

You’d think Massachusetts State Police would prioritize investigating the murderers of a fellow Police Officer over flying out to California to interview a random woman about her communications with a journalist. But alas, I guess not for Officer O’Keefe?

And this is what has screamed to me the loudest! I'm glad more are seeing this as a major problem in this case

"You’d think Massachusetts State Police would prioritize investigating the murderers of a fellow Police Officer over flying out to California to interview a random woman about her communications with a journalist. But alas, I guess not for Officer O’Keefe?"
 
And because this user is better at articulating I'll post this link. More food for thought.



That awkward moment when the phone data doesn’t lie, but contradicts the Commonwealth’s entire theory! #KarenRea

Who had Officer #JohnOKeefe’s cellphone at 12:59:36am? Because according to the state, they say he was already struck & killed by this point.

From its own documents, they state “a check of the location data in Axiom shows the last location at 34 Fairview Road…at 12:25:36 a.m.”.

They also say: “The phone finally stops in between 34 and 32 Fairview Road in the area of the flag pole and fire hydrant at 12:24:40AM. The final point plotted was at 12:25:36AM when the phone stops showing any movement until the morning at 6:15:36AM”.

The Commonwealth claims that Officer O’Keefe is struck and killed at 12:25:36am because, according to them, his phone shows no more movement until 6:15:36am.

Not only is this directly refuted by the fact that John’s phone answered Jen McCabe’s call at 12:29:44am, and showed subsequent movement via Apple Health movement data, including several steps taken around 12:32am, but it’s also in direct contraction to the entry of location movement data at 12:59:36am on John’s phone.

So, who do you think was looking at Officer O’Keefe’s phone at 12:59:36am? According to court documents, his phone was found underneath him in the morning at the scene.

So whoever was looking at John’s phone at 12:59:36am had to have put his phone underneath him—directly implicating that individual in his murder, especially given the fact that Karen Read had long been home at that point, as she was home by 12:41am.

Also, has anyone heard any updates from the Commonwealth on who was driving the Ford Edge, spotted by snowplow driver Lucky Loughran between 2:30-3:00am, parked directly in front of the fire hydrant near where Officer O’Keefes body was later found?

You’d think Massachusetts State Police would prioritize investigating the murderers of a fellow Police Officer over flying out to California to interview a random woman about her communications with a journalist. But alas, I guess not for Officer O’Keefe?


And here is the link to document of plow driver, even though it is embedded in TB post:


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Specifically, # 6 and 7.
 
Specifically, # 6 and 7.
Also
Michael Proctor is on record in an official police report stating that Canton DPW Director Michael Trotta told him that the GPS on plow trucks was broken on January 24, and not fixed in time for the blizzard on the January 29. This is at odds with Loughran’s testimony to me, because he said that the FBI confronted him with GPS data from January 29, indicating that it was not broken.

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Like you, it's different for each case but I think those that grab me the most are probably those in which I believe innocent people are accused.
Not for me, not that I couldn't but rarely do I see one I believe someone wrongly accused I guess. Most I follow I believe them guilty and want to see justice done but again they don't always start out that way, the often start out as children or a woman missing. Sometimes anyhow. Although I follow quite a range of cases and types of cases.
 
There's no dispute as to who but when.

There is no dispute as to when at all. It's time stamped as to when.

Have to chuckle at the clear disagreement.

It says in the article RP posted about the Trooper that LE and the State do not agree with the defense on that search so I guess it remains to be seen.

The article reminded me just how many feet Karen reversed at that time too and that comes from car data... A few other quite incriminating things as well.

I haven't watched the trial to have an opinion as to each witness's honesty or the evidence though.
 
Like you, it's different for each case but I think those that grab me the most are probably those in which I believe innocent people are accused.
So since those grab you the most, do you feel KR is wrongly accused in this one or undecided or not wrongly accused?
 
Yeah and raw data from where and whom and is it full and who interpreted it? Etc. I only glanced at it for a minute, not much more. No time to dive into something like that.
It takes less time to glance at it like I did than to post no time to look at it. Just saying. Quite a few things that stand out in it. I haven't delved into it at all. It states where the data came from, too
 
Well, I believe the defense can call him to testify??? Will be interesting if the defense does, and the Prosecution does not.
So did you determine if it was just a rumor or a fact?

If a fact and they feel he may be impeached, it would make sense not to call him. If true and seems likely, his looking for naked pictures and his remarks about KR are highly unprofessional at best.

I will say that officers can certainly have opinions of people and of their guilt or innocence and most do. The detective in our case made no bones about the belief in his guilt even before the results they needed were back because they knew what happened, it was just a matter of whether the results sadly (hard to talk about) were bad enough to show it beyond doubt. They were.

They have opinions of many a person in many a case, at a point anyhow. However, they did their job and did it fairly and a complete investigation.

This goes a bit beyond sharing thoughts with the victim's family and is extremely unprofessional though.

And before anyone says it, yes I know that this and other things then lead to other suspicions... And a huge arse conspiracy as that article ALSO said, the one about the opinion of him or what was said about his texts, etc. about her that were not nice.
 
I'll catch up later here as it just happened to be the thread I left it on but I need to see if Daybell is in jury watch, don't want to miss a verdict AND I want to listen to closings.
 
So did you determine if it was just a rumor or a fact?

If a fact and they feel he may be impeached, it would make sense not to call him. If true and seems likely, his looking for naked pictures and his remarks about KR are highly unprofessional at best.

I will say that officers can certainly have opinions of people and of their guilt or innocence and most do. The detective in our case made no bones about the belief in his guilt even before the results they needed were back because they knew what happened, it was just a matter of whether the results sadly (hard to talk about) were bad enough to show it beyond doubt. They were.

They have opinions of many a person in many a case, at a point anyhow. However, they did their job and did it fairly and a complete investigation.

This goes a bit beyond sharing thoughts with the victim's family and is extremely unprofessional though.

And before anyone says it, yes I know that this and other things then lead to other suspicions... And a huge arse conspiracy as that article ALSO said, the one about the opinion of him or what was said about his texts, etc. about her that were not nice.
They 100% did NOT do their job
 
@Cousin Dupree I swear I saw on break today you made a remark about JO's 36 steps. I was going to respond to it tonight and now cannot find it. Did you delete or I am just tired and can't find? Very well could be.

I saw it though and so at end of break from my car to store I counted my steps as I walked to head back in. And it was nothing significant for distance, etc. at all and quickly reached such. I suspect maybe you did the same and deleted your post or I'm wrong and just in skimming last couple of pages now can't find it.

It wasn't me that posted it, or I don't remember. I've been taking some ambien to help me sleep through these stressful times, so maybe I wrote it in an ambien haze?

I did mention that the same technology being used here, was used in the Alex Murdaugh case as well.
 
It wasn't me that posted it, or I don't remember. I've been taking some ambien to help me sleep through these stressful times, so maybe I wrote it in an ambien haze?

I did mention that the same technology being used here, was used in the Alex Murdaugh case as well.
Cellebrite and/or AXOM are the best at extracting and plotting detailed location data. In Murdaugh's trial the FBI used Cellebrite.
 

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