LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]

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On Feb 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams & Liberty German were discovered in Delphi, #INDIANA. The suspect in their deaths is awaiting trial.

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant, though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." Even with a lot of media coverage, their murders remain unsolved.
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Tresir said:
This is an article detailing the witness testimonies from 29th and 30th October. I don't remember reading these before or i somehow missed the importance of them, which is very possible. They are from RA's suicide companions and the warden.

abc7chicago.com

Delphi murders suspect allegedly told psychologist he wanted to apologize to Abby, Libby's families

"I killed Abby and Libby. I am sorry." is what the suspect reportedly told a clinical psychologist while in jail.
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Delphi murders suspect allegedly told psychologist he wanted to apologize to Abby, Libby's families​

Allen reportedly told prison staff he killed the girls to give his family "more time to be free."
ByJeremy Edwards and Emily Shapiro, ABC News
Wednesday, October 30, 2024 9:33PM
Delphi murders suspect allegedly confessed multiple times in jail

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DELPHI, Ind. -- Richard Allen's alleged jail confessions continued as the main topic on Wednesday.
Libby, 14, and her best friend Abby Williams 13, were walking along a hiking trail in rural Delphi when their throats were cut and they were left in the woods on Feb. 13, 2017. Their bodies were found the next day.
Allen was arrested in 2022 and pleaded not guilty to murder. Allen was held at the Westville Correctional Facility for 13 months after his arrest.
A clinical psychologist who worked closely with Allen after his arrest in testified Wednesday morning.
Doctor Monica Wala was employed as the lead psychologist for the Indiana Department of Corrections.
Defense attorney Brad Rozzi established that Wala had long followed the Allen's case on podcasts, YouTube and Facebook, and had participated in true crime forums.
Wala shut down her social media accounts down after someone pointed out she was following the case so closely.
Wala said she first met Allen in November 2022, and he was frequently on suicide watch. Wala testified they didn't initially discuss the girls' murders, and she urged Allen not to talk to others about the case.
On April 5, 2023, Wala said Allen confessed to the crime by saying, " I killed Abby and Libby. I am sorry."
She said Allen also went on to say that he made sure the girls were dead, so they didn't suffer. Allen told her he also wanted to apologize to the girls' families.
Allen allegedly told the psychologist he had a sex addiction and his intentions with the eighth-grade girls were sexual.
The clinical psychologist testified that Allen claimed he molested his sister and experimented sexually with children his age when he was a kid.
The suspect said he saw the girls on the trail and followed them to the bridge. Allen said he did something to his gun and thought that was when the cartridge, which has been a key piece of evidence, came out.
That's when he ordered the girls "down the hill" and wanted to sexually abuse them. But he was startled by a person or van, and that's when Allen ordered the girls across the creek, allegedly slit their throats, and then covered their bodies with tree branches.
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Allen said after he killed the girls, he walked to his car and continued to live his life as normal until his arrest.
Wala noted that Allen appeared to be "relieved" after he gave his confession.
The last testimony of the morning was Wala talking in more detail about Allen's overall mental state, describing it as "fragile" when he arrived at Westville.
Court is set to continue on Wednesday afternoon for day 11 of the double-murder trial.

Allen's alleged prison confessions​

On Tuesday, prison staff testified about Allen's multiple confessions and behavior while behind bars.
John Galipeau, a former warden of the Westville Correctional Facility, took the stand on Tuesday.
Allen's attorneys have repeatedly argued he was treated poorly there and called a "baby killer."
Galipeau testified Allen was allowed to shower three times a week, provided three sets of clothing, had access to tablets and was allowed recreation time five days a week in an indoor room.
It was also revealed that Allen was on suicide watch.
Galipeau told jurors on March 5, 2023, Allen wrote a request for an interview with him.
In the request it said he wanted to confess to killing Abby and Libby.
The written note said, "I am ready to officially for confess killing Abby and Libby. I hope I get the opportunity to tell the families I'm sorry."
Galipeau also told jurors that Allen confessed to disposing a box cutter in the dumpster behind the CVS where he worked in Delphi.
Allen said he worked at CVS since 2013, and before that for Walmart for 10 years.
Galipeau said Allen was quiet for the first month at the prison and began acting "erratic" after he got mail from his attorneys. He said Allen began washing his face in the toilet, using the bathroom in his cell, tearing up mail and eating paper.
Several other correctional officers at Westville also testified about the multiple times Allen confessed to the murders.
Correction Officer Michael Clemons told jurors he was a "suicide companion" for Allen. He was assigned to record everything Allen said and did while on suicide watch.
Clemons told the court on April 6, 2023, Allen confessed to killing the girls.
Clemons said he logged in his notes that Allen said, "I'm so glad no one gave up on me after I killed Abby and Libby." Clemons said Allen also said, "I, Richard Matthew Allen, killed Abby and Libby by myself. No one helped me."
Clemons said Allen would also shout to other inmates, "I'm not crazy, I'm only acting like I'm crazy."
During cross-examination, Clemons testified he never felt Allen's behavior was genuine.
Defense attorney Brad Rozzi asked Clemons, "Can prison get to a man?" Clemons admitted, "Yes it can."
Correction Officer Ethan Drang also took the stand and told jurors that Allen confessed to him on April 5, 2023.
Drang said Allen told him, "I think coming to prison cured me of my depression and anxiety."
Correctional Officer Michael Roberts was also a suicide companion assigned to Allen.
Roberts had a detailed log of the confessions he said he heard.
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On April 7, 2023, Roberts wrote at 12:34 p.m. Allen said, "Dear Lord, forgive me for molesting Abby, Libby, Kevin, and Chris. I want to confess. I know a lot more."
On April 23, 2023, Roberts wrote in his log that at 2:00 p.m. Allen said, " I killed Abby & Libby. My wife wasn't involved. I want to confess."
Then on April 26, 2023, Roberts wrote that Allen said, "Can I talk? Can you listen I killed Abby & Libby? How do I prove I'm insane?"
On June 18, 2023, Roberts noted that at 3:30 p.m. Allen said, "Why are you doing this? Do you know God? Do you know why I'm here? I killed Abby and Libby."
Roberts said he saw outrageous acts of misbehavior to get the attention of guards who were watching. He went on to say he believed Allen was acting up more than having a mental health crisis.
On cross-examination Roberts was pressed on Allen's behavior behind bars. Defense attorney Brad Rozzi asked if Roberts had any formal mental health training, in which Roberts replied only what the state provided.
Roberts revealed that Allen began smearing feces over his cell and would put it on his face.
Roberts also testified that he remembers Allen hit his head on the wall for a long time at one point making his face black and blue.
He also told the court that Allen would refuse food at points for long periods of time.
Roberts admitted that some of Allen's "suicide companions" were going back to the general population at the prison and spreading information about the murder suspect.
Correctional Officer John Miller also testified; Allen expressed his desire to "burn in hell" while confessing to the killings.
Miller testified how Allen said he molested his sister and may even touched his daughter.
Miller testified Allen had an erection while talking about all of this.
As Miller testified on Tuesday, Allen's mouth was wide open and his eyes looked surprised by these remarks.
Miller went on to say Allen said on April 9, 2023, at 6:56 a.m., " I only killed them to give my family more time to be free." Then at 7:58 a.m. Allen said, " I'm sorry I killed those kids... I may have touched my daughter, I can't remember."
The jury asked Miller if it would be normal to act like Allen while refusing medication. Miller responded, "It's possible."
Correctional Officer Brandon Fisher testified that on April 29, 2023, Allen not only confessed to the murders, but also provided some details into what happened.
Fisher said Allen wanted to rape the girls, but he panicked and ended up killing them. Allen allegedly told Fisher he killed the girls with a box cutter and threw it into a dumpster behind CVS.
After 13 months, Allen at Westville was transferred to Wabash Valley Correctional Facility. Jason Bedwell, a correctional officer there was called to the stand.
Bedwell testified on February 4, 2024, Allen again confessed to the murders while crying and talking to himself. Bedwell said "I am sorry for what I did. Sorry for killing them."
Also on Monday, Indiana State Police forensic scientist Stacy Bozinovski said no DNA tied Allen to the murder scene in Delphi, Indiana.
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This comes across, to me, as to being untrue:

Clemons said he logged in his notes that Allen said, "I'm so glad no one gave up on me after I killed Abby and Libby." Clemons said Allen also said, "I, Richard Matthew Allen, killed Abby and Libby by myself. No one helped me."

Really? That is just an odd thing to say. It sounds like it was made up by Clemons.
 
Regina said:
I don't know why the FBI was involved in the first place.
I think they'd have been helpful as far as a criminal behavioral profile- not sure that was ever done- but besides that, I don't know what the FBI could (or did) offer that the state police couldn't.
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Well any LE can ask them to help, unsure if that was why, but probably. There was no crossing of state lines or anything here so they didn't come in automatically imo or most likely not. And they are there at the discretion of local LE who also asked them to leave, well the ISP did I guess...
 
Cousin Dupree said:
This comes across, to me, as to being untrue:

Clemons said he logged in his notes that Allen said, "I'm so glad no one gave up on me after I killed Abby and Libby." Clemons said Allen also said, "I, Richard Matthew Allen, killed Abby and Libby by myself. No one helped me."

Really? That is just an odd thing to say. It sounds like it was made up by Clemons.
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What he said should be on the recordings so it should be easy for the D and the P to check.
 
Regina said:
I've always felt there were too many cooks in the kitchen.
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Very true and who knows who messed some of these things up either. There was a case in my state where they came in, and I assume were asked, was murder and kidnapping. At a point, they were asked to leave there too and rumors of problems between local and them were heard more than once... One thing I recall they were in charge of, or volunteered for or were given, was taking incoming tips, filing them, etc. in OUR case anyhow as I recall it...

The reason though they were let go imo or a key one was their Logan warrant, that embellished thing. I am going to say right now I am not doing down that road again and all I have to say about it can be found in full in this thread repeatedly if anyone wants to know my opinion and reasons.

Now it's interesting they never once asked Carter about the reason for letting them go or much at all. My guess is that they don't him voicing that reason, they just wanted him up there to say he let them go. I'm surprised NM didn't bring it out on cross BUT perhaps he can if rebuttal is allowed... The reason I think this is they have the woman F B I agent lined up as a witness don't they? So it will come out there about that warrant I am guessing although it may be objected to. They don't want an opinion from Carter, they want the jury only to see he let them go, and then hear that from them imo... Or something on that order, or will recall Carter, hard to say... I could say more but I think that's the basics of the plan most likely.

Going to likely skip posts, and skip ahead or go back later to read them, if a chance. Listening to HTC about all of the fireworks today etc...And boy, people better stop saying this judge never rules with the defense. My God that's so not true.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Well any LE can ask them to help, unsure if that was why, but probably. There was no crossing of state lines or anything here so they didn't come in automatically imo or most likely not. And they are there at the discretion of local LE who also asked them to leave, well the ISP did I guess...
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There was an FBI agent helping locally in the area at the time IIRC and i think that was how they got involved initially.
 
Sunburst said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Defense accused of trying to 'curry sympathy' for Delphi 'killer'

Defense attorneys have been accused of trying to paint the man accused of murdering Delphi teenagers Liberty German and Abigail Williams as the victim.
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The ONLY victims are Abby and Libby. This tactic by the defense absolutely reeks of desperation.
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I completely agree with you. I don't see the point of it either unless they are pursuing some sort of MH defence or looking ahead for appeal grounds.
 
Tresir said:
I completely agree with you. I don't see the point of it either unless they are pursuing some sort of MH defence or looking ahead for appeal grounds.
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Ditto. agree. I saw a fair amount today so not entirely not up to speed and been listening to some since getting home. Pretty disgusting some of it.

Right now listening to the Qs and As of Weber and what I find ridiculous questioning of Weber, but not done yet... Listening still.
 
RoundPeg said:
Probably because the evidence isn't exactly overwhelming IMO.
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Well i think it is. Over 60 confessions for starters. Video and audio of the perp and his vehicle, knowledge of evidence and events only the perp would know, his bullet at the scene. I dont see that much more is needed.

He is desperate for his confessions to be heard and acknowledged. He carried a bible into court today - he is looking for forgiveness and desperately hoping for salvation in the next life IMO. I hope it is over as soon as possible for all concerned. It's torture for the families.
 
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Well i think it is. Over 60 confessions for starters. Video and audio of the perp and his vehicle, knowledge of evidence only the perp would know, his bullet at the scene. I dont see that much more is needed.
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Out of those 60 how many are real?
 

Delphi murders: Jurors see additional videos of Richard Allen in custody​

Jurors saw additional videos of Richard Allen’s time in custody.

On Saturday, jurors watched more than a dozen camcorder videos of Allen at Westville Correctional Facility where he was held awaiting trial. The videos were shown only to the jury, with the screen pointed away from the gallery. The defense said this was “out of respect” for Allen.

The videos were intended to show his mental decline. A defense expert testified about that decline during Monday’s session.

After that, the jury saw additional footage. The state objected again, which Special Judge Fran Gull overruled. As it had been on Saturday, the monitor was pointed away from the gallery.
 

Delphi murders: Richard Allen’s family takes the stand for first time​

For the first time in the Delphi murders trial, family members of Richard Allen were called to the witness stand.

Day 15 of testimony in the high-profile murder case began with the defense attempting to cast doubt on Allen’s multiple prison confessions by having a neuropsychologist speak on Allen’s mental decline while in Westville Correctional Facility.

t has been well documented that Allen made upward of 60 or more confessions while confined in prison. Some of these “confessions” included Allen confessing to crimes other than what he stands trial for – including molesting his family members.

The defense has argued Allen’s “confessions” into the killings of Abby and Libby hold little water due to his mental distress. The prosecution contends that Allen’s unstable behavior and confessions to other crimes were an act to muddy his other confessions.

Allen’s daughter, half-sister speak​

On Monday, Allen’s attorneys called two members of Allen’s family to the stand: his half-sister, Jaimie Jones and Allen’s daughter, Brittney Zapanta.

A key witness returns​


Brad Weber returned to the witness stand as defense attorney Andrew Baldwin worked to poke holes in Weber’s key testimony.


Previously, Weber took the stand and told jurors that on Feb. 13, 2017, he left work at 2:02 p.m. and estimated to arrive at his home on North 625 West around 2:30 p.m. Weber lives near the stretch of Deer Creek where the girls’ bodies were discovered.
 
I don't think the defense is trying to get sympathy. I think they are trying to show the jurors that RA was not mentally capable of confessing and in his frame of mind he would pretty much say anything.

I don't know how its going to go over with the jury but in my opinion that is what the defense is trying to do and who knows maybe they've done that. Since no one other than the jury has seen it I guess we'll have to see how it goes over.

Is it true that they took him off of his medicine? (Prozac is it?) I mean would they have done that just take him off of it and not wean him off of it?
 
I think the confessions are very damaging for RA. The defense would have to show that he was in a state of mind where he would say anything. I think that's what they are trying to do by showing these videos.
 
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