LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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Especially when considered with what's now known, info from the former DA is fascinating.
I don't know precisely when this interview took place but it's a least several years old and I may have already posted it but I'm not sure.
 
Am I alone in thinking that RA is not who unalived these young girls? The FBI being forced to leave the investigation is troublesome. It's another poorly executed invesigation imo.
I think the investigation was a hot mess from day 1 until basically now. I'm embarrassed. I'll just blame the FBI. ;) I honestly did not see the entire mess until trial started.

However, I think based on the evidence presented in court, he is guilty. The van detail did it for me.

As an aside, I think Saturday's videos would be better used in an 8th amendment suit against the State of Indiana. Like I said, I'm embarrassed.
 
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Am I alone in thinking that RA is not who unalived these young girls? The FBI being forced to leave the investigation is troublesome. It's another poorly executed invesigation imo.
I lean that he did do it. But I don’t know if I could convict him based on what I’ve heard/read. At the same time, I haven’t been able to watch the trial so there could be some things going on in the courtroom that would’ve swayed me one way or the other.
 
I lean that he did do it. But I don’t know if I could convict him based on what I’ve heard/read. At the same time, I haven’t been able to watch the trial so there could be some things going on in the courtroom that would’ve swayed me one way or the other.

Even if you were in the courtroom you'd still be unable to figure it out. The prosecution is not being truthful about much, IMO.
 
I have always thought he did it ever since he was arrested. The only thing i would like to hear more about is the Peru
connection.

The voice, the clothes, the bullet, the witnesses, his own words and confessions have done it for me and i believe him guilty ATM. However, we have not yet heard his defence, so i am reserving judgement until i have heard that; (sorry, not going to hear it obviously, but i mean once i have read the reporting of the D witnesses) but TBH I don't believe my opinion is going to change at all. The D have an uphill battle to convince me and the jury, i believe.
 
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Apparently, RA is the victim. This made me mad as heck reading this. It is AAA - all about Allen.

This link has a summary of Saturday morning and this morning. The chronology is from the bottom upwards. I am wondering where the defence is going with all this. It looks to me like they are preparing a Mental Health defence. Apparently RA's daughter is outside the court so it looks like she may be waiting to testify this pm. Anyway here is the link and the reporting so far. Maybe someone more familiar with the US/Indiana Law can explain what is actually happening here. It seems like a load of BS to me. They want to paint RA as the victim, it seems to me, which is outrageous. He walked in carrying a bible.


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Delphi Murders trial: Day 15 live blog

A view inside the courtroom Nov. 2, 2024, of the Delphi Murders trial at the Carroll County Courthouse in Delphi, Indiana. (Provided Photo/Li Buszka)

A view inside the courtroom Nov. 2, 2024, of the Delphi Murders trial at the Carroll County Courthouse in Delphi, Indiana. (Provided Photo/Li Buszka)
by: Michaela Springer
Posted: Nov 4, 2024 / 07:32 AM EST / Updated: Nov 4, 2024 / 01:25 PM ES


NOTE: The times listed in the blog headers are the times which the entries were added. Specific times for courtroom events will be listed in the entries if available.
These notes are compiled from photographs of written notes provided by reporters in courtroom and emailed to the WISH-TV


12:44 p.m.: Jury views footage from inside Allen’s cell

12:44 pm
Court returned from break at 11:30 a.m. Judge Gull called for an immediate sidebar, noting the state’s objection to viewing videos of Allen while in Westville.

News 8’s Kyla Russell said Kathy Allen has not been in the courtroom all morning, but Allen’s daughter was seated outside the courtroom. His daughter has not been present throughout the trial.
After the jury entered, the defense recalled intern Max Baker to set up videos. He said the security camera video from inside Allen’s cell does have time stamps. The courtroom TV again was turned to face away from the gallery, only visible to the jury, Judge Gull, and witness stand.
Baker told the jury he created the video by piecing together smaller parts of the cell footage. Video #1 was from April 12, 2023, and included clips from a five-hour time period. Video #2 included clips taken from May 25, 2023, over a 12-hour time period.
Russell noted Video #1 was an hour and twenty minutes long, and that multiple jurors took notes while watching. An alternate juror, who Russell said has a high-school aged daughter, raised her eyebrows throughout.
State prosecutors and the defense gathered around the TV to watch. Richard Allen did not watch the footage.
Video #2 was 26 minutes long, defense attorney Brad Rozzi said. While watching the video, many jurors glanced at Allen.
After the videos ended, Rozzi continued questioning Baker. Baker said he looked through 18 – 20 hours of footage between April and July 2023.
State prosecutor Nick McLeland spoke up, asking if it was better for Allen to be in his cell alone. Rozzi objected, stating Baker couldn’t decide that. Gull sustained the objection.
McLeland then asked why Baker chose the camcorder videos shown on Saturday. Few of the camcorder videos included Allen being tased, showering, eating feces, receiving an x-ray, and interacting with his nurse. Baker said he picked the videos he did because they showed “Rick’s life in prison.”
McLeland commented that Baker showed “what he viewed as his worst condition in Westville” and that Baker “showed the jury (the video) to try to show that Richard Allen is the victim.”
A back-and-forth ensued between McLeland, Rozzi, and Baker. McLeland ended his questioning, and Rozzi jumped in to ask: “You picked what you picked to show them the truth?”
Baker said, “Yes.”
Russell said many objections were raised. Baker became snippy at one point.
Soon after, the jury asked if the attorneys asked Baker to choose the worst videos.
“I had my own discretion,” Baker said.
Court recessed for lunch at 12:22 p.m.


11:29 a.m.: Neuropsychologist who evaluated Allen testifies

Richard Allen entered the courtroom Monday morning wearing a blue-striped button-down shirt and khakis. He was carrying a Bible, News 8’s Kyla Russell noted. Allen apparently showed defense attorney Andrew Baldwin a verse when sitting with him.
Special Judge Fran Gull and the jury entered shortly after 9 a.m., and the defense called their first witness, Dr. Polly Westcott.
Westcott is a neuropsychologist based in Carmel. She told the court her specialty was in forensic psychology and neuropsychology. Baldwin and defense attorney Brad Rozzi hired Westcott in May 2023 to assess Allen’s mental, emotional, and physical health decline while he was in Westville.
Westcott was given access to Allen’s mental health treatment records, video footage from the prison, and access to his recorded calls. She told the jury she received more information about Allen than she had in any other criminal case she’s worked on before. Russell noted that Westcott stopped receiving videos of Allen in March 2024.
She met with Allen at Westville in August 2023 and performed the assessment over two days. Westcott said she also spoke with his wife, Kathy, for additional information on Richard Allen.
Her report, in total, ended up being 127 pages.
Through her assessment, she said she learned Allen had an “extensive mental health record,” saying he had severe anxiety through his childhood before starting anxiety medication in his twenties. She said Allen also struggled with depression, fears of failure, and suicidal ideation through young adulthood and adulthood. She also learned from Allen that his wife played a crucial role in “putting him back together.”
She also assessed Allen for a personality disorder and determined he had “dependent personality disorder,” which is a type of anxious personality disorder that leaves the patient feeling helpless, unable to make decisions, and incapable of taking care of themselves. Westcott said Allen relied on his wife, mother, and family for support to “feel like a whole person.”

Westcott came to six conclusions in her assessment:

  • Allen has a long history of mental health issues
  • Allen was not faking or exaggerating his symptoms
  • Allen is slower to understand, process, and respond to things
  • Allen experienced a complete mental health decrease in Westville
  • Allen has major depressive disorder and slipped into psychosis due to stress
  • Allen’s brain chemistry was changed while in prison, due to no contact with wife and family

Rozzi handed Westcott Allen’s writing samples she previously reviewed, including a letter he wrote asking for assistance from the court in November 2022 and a letter he wrote to Kathy before incarceration.
The prosecution objected to admitting the handwritten letters, calling them hearsay. Judge Gull requested a sidebar and later admitted the writing samples after redacting a few words. Rozzi then asked for Westcott to evaluate the handwriting, not the words in the samples.
Westcott said the November 2022 sample was “organized” and “well thought out,” but the letter structure from a later sample was completely different and “fragmented.”
After reviewing the samples, Westcott continued discussing her evaluations of Richard Allen. She said she gave him a MCI, or mild cognitive impairment test, which is a comprehensive test for personality features and mental health disorders. The test also evaluated if Allen was faking his symptoms.
The state objected again, saying they asked for a copy of these results but did not receive them. Rozzi explained they could only be given to a mental health professional, and that the state “did not even take the time to take a deposition of Westcott.”
After back and forth between the defense, the state, and Judge Gull, Westcott reiterated that she did not believe Allen was faking his mental illness. In total, Westcott administered 25 tests on Allen, which came to the conclusions that Allen “was not very resilient” in the face of stress. She said he was prone to decompensation and could slip into psychosis, which was seen in his behavior from December 2022 to July 2023. She later said Allen’s brain chemistry changed due to sensory deprivation during solitary confinement.
Westcott also commented on Dr. Monica Wala’s reports of Allen. Wala, who was Allen’s psychologist at Westville, reported Allen’s murder confessions in a “story-like” manner, according to Westcott, but the videos of Allen at the same time “weren’t logical.”
She said Allen’s brain was like a “fun house” during solitary confinement, and admitted she was worried he had delirium.
Prosecution deputy Stacey Diener began her cross examination by stating Wala visited Allen every day, so he “was not completely deprived of social interaction.” She then asked if Westcott received all the DOC records, which Westcott said she believed so given there was information from every day Allen was in Westville.
Westcott told the jury at one point, Allen said “Satan killed the girls,” and she felt he was making “statements inconsistent with reality.” She added that Allen didn’t seem to know he was going to meet with him.
Diener asked if Allen’s dependence could have been transferred from his wife to Wala, to which Westcott said no, that Allen was only confiding in her. She said some of the videos she received of Allen weren’t timestamped, and added she took suicide companion notes a “certain amount of weight” in her overall assessment.
Westcott said people experiencing psychosis are “not in the same reality” as others, but can still say factual things.
Diener commented that two of Allen’s confessions weren’t in Westcott’s report, and asked if she didn’t find them significant. Westcott confirmed she did use those confessions and summarized them in the report.
Diener ended her cross, and the jury asked several questions about Allen’s mental health history.

  • If Mr. Allen has the common sense to be afraid to leave his cell, would he have the common sense to fake his symptoms? Westcott said Allen’s statement about being afraid was before his psychotic episode.
  • If he was depressed as a child, would that cause him to commit crimes as an adult? Westcott said not always and that it depends on the personality type.
  • Would depression as a child cause them to become a sex addict? Westcott said no.
  • Did you watch Allen’s police interview in October 2022? Westcott said yes.

Court recessed for a quick break.

9 a.m.: Court in session for Monday

7:30 a.m.

News 8’s chief photographer John LeSage is at the Carroll County courthouse and says people are lining up hoping to grab a public seat for Monday’s session.
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Brief summary of Day 14 in the Delphi Murders trial

The jury on Saturday viewed 10 camcorder videos taken of Richard Allen while he was in Westville Correctional Facility during April 2023. The videos were compiled by defense intern Max Baker, who also made a master spreadsheet categorizing the footage.
According to News 8’s Kyla Russell, four of the videos contained nudity and another of the videos showed Allen being transported and receiving medical treatment. No audio was played.
State prosecutor Nick McLeland objected to the videos’ being allowed in court, but Special Judge Fran Gull admitted them. The courtroom TV was turned away from the general public and media area during the viewing, so only the jury, Judge Gull, and the attorneys could see. Richard Allen was not able to see the footage.
Jury members were left shocked by the videos’ content, with many wearing wide-eyed expressions. Russell noted Allen’s defense attorney Jennifer Auger held her head in her hands, or watched with her hand over her mouth. At one point, Auger looked away.
Following a short recess, the videos were paused to allow Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter to testify. According to Russell, he was only on the stand for around 10 minutes. Carter explained his role in the Delphi Murders investigation, and confirmed that he released the FBI from the investigation in August 2021. He said it was his decision to do so, and requested the FBI return all evidence in their possession. Carter was then released from his subpoena.
After Carter left the stand, the jury watched five more videos taken of Allen from May 13 and June 20 of 2023. McLeland renewed his objection and the court viewed the footage anyway.
Multiple jurors sat uncomfortably during the videos, while others took notes. Auger and defense attorney Andrew Baldwin were seen looking away or shaking their heads. Baldwin was seen speaking with Allen with his arm around his shoulders, speaking to him quietly. Allen was taking notes and shaking his head.
The videos ended around 11:50 a.m. Saturday. Upon questioning from the defense, Max Becker said he created a similar spreadsheet and flash drive for videos of Allen taken from the security camera in his cell. McLeland said he would hold off on his cross-examination of Becker until all the videos were watched.
Court adjourned just before noon.
 
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This is an article detailing the witness testimonies from 29th and 30th October. I don't remember reading these before or i somehow missed the importance of them, which is very possible. They are from RA's suicide companions and the warden.


Delphi murders suspect allegedly told psychologist he wanted to apologize to Abby, Libby's families​

Allen reportedly told prison staff he killed the girls to give his family "more time to be free."
ByJeremy Edwards and Emily Shapiro, ABC News
Wednesday, October 30, 2024 9:33PM
Delphi murders suspect allegedly confessed multiple times in jail

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DELPHI, Ind. -- Richard Allen's alleged jail confessions continued as the main topic on Wednesday.
Libby, 14, and her best friend Abby Williams 13, were walking along a hiking trail in rural Delphi when their throats were cut and they were left in the woods on Feb. 13, 2017. Their bodies were found the next day.
Allen was arrested in 2022 and pleaded not guilty to murder. Allen was held at the Westville Correctional Facility for 13 months after his arrest.
A clinical psychologist who worked closely with Allen after his arrest in testified Wednesday morning.
Doctor Monica Wala was employed as the lead psychologist for the Indiana Department of Corrections.
Defense attorney Brad Rozzi established that Wala had long followed the Allen's case on podcasts, YouTube and Facebook, and had participated in true crime forums.
Wala shut down her social media accounts down after someone pointed out she was following the case so closely.
Wala said she first met Allen in November 2022, and he was frequently on suicide watch. Wala testified they didn't initially discuss the girls' murders, and she urged Allen not to talk to others about the case.
On April 5, 2023, Wala said Allen confessed to the crime by saying, " I killed Abby and Libby. I am sorry."
She said Allen also went on to say that he made sure the girls were dead, so they didn't suffer. Allen told her he also wanted to apologize to the girls' families.
Allen allegedly told the psychologist he had a sex addiction and his intentions with the eighth-grade girls were sexual.
The clinical psychologist testified that Allen claimed he molested his sister and experimented sexually with children his age when he was a kid.
The suspect said he saw the girls on the trail and followed them to the bridge. Allen said he did something to his gun and thought that was when the cartridge, which has been a key piece of evidence, came out.
That's when he ordered the girls "down the hill" and wanted to sexually abuse them. But he was startled by a person or van, and that's when Allen ordered the girls across the creek, allegedly slit their throats, and then covered their bodies with tree branches.
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Allen said after he killed the girls, he walked to his car and continued to live his life as normal until his arrest.
Wala noted that Allen appeared to be "relieved" after he gave his confession.
The last testimony of the morning was Wala talking in more detail about Allen's overall mental state, describing it as "fragile" when he arrived at Westville.
Court is set to continue on Wednesday afternoon for day 11 of the double-murder trial.


Allen's alleged prison confessions​

On Tuesday, prison staff testified about Allen's multiple confessions and behavior while behind bars.
John Galipeau, a former warden of the Westville Correctional Facility, took the stand on Tuesday.
Allen's attorneys have repeatedly argued he was treated poorly there and called a "baby killer."
Galipeau testified Allen was allowed to shower three times a week, provided three sets of clothing, had access to tablets and was allowed recreation time five days a week in an indoor room.
It was also revealed that Allen was on suicide watch.
Galipeau told jurors on March 5, 2023, Allen wrote a request for an interview with him.
In the request it said he wanted to confess to killing Abby and Libby.
The written note said, "I am ready to officially for confess killing Abby and Libby. I hope I get the opportunity to tell the families I'm sorry."
Galipeau also told jurors that Allen confessed to disposing a box cutter in the dumpster behind the CVS where he worked in Delphi.
Allen said he worked at CVS since 2013, and before that for Walmart for 10 years.
Galipeau said Allen was quiet for the first month at the prison and began acting "erratic" after he got mail from his attorneys. He said Allen began washing his face in the toilet, using the bathroom in his cell, tearing up mail and eating paper.
Several other correctional officers at Westville also testified about the multiple times Allen confessed to the murders.
Correction Officer Michael Clemons told jurors he was a "suicide companion" for Allen. He was assigned to record everything Allen said and did while on suicide watch.
Clemons told the court on April 6, 2023, Allen confessed to killing the girls.
Clemons said he logged in his notes that Allen said, "I'm so glad no one gave up on me after I killed Abby and Libby." Clemons said Allen also said, "I, Richard Matthew Allen, killed Abby and Libby by myself. No one helped me."
Clemons said Allen would also shout to other inmates, "I'm not crazy, I'm only acting like I'm crazy."
During cross-examination, Clemons testified he never felt Allen's behavior was genuine.
Defense attorney Brad Rozzi asked Clemons, "Can prison get to a man?" Clemons admitted, "Yes it can."
Correction Officer Ethan Drang also took the stand and told jurors that Allen confessed to him on April 5, 2023.
Drang said Allen told him, "I think coming to prison cured me of my depression and anxiety."
Correctional Officer Michael Roberts was also a suicide companion assigned to Allen.
Roberts had a detailed log of the confessions he said he heard.
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On April 7, 2023, Roberts wrote at 12:34 p.m. Allen said, "Dear Lord, forgive me for molesting Abby, Libby, Kevin, and Chris. I want to confess. I know a lot more."
On April 23, 2023, Roberts wrote in his log that at 2:00 p.m. Allen said, " I killed Abby & Libby. My wife wasn't involved. I want to confess."
Then on April 26, 2023, Roberts wrote that Allen said, "Can I talk? Can you listen I killed Abby & Libby? How do I prove I'm insane?"
On June 18, 2023, Roberts noted that at 3:30 p.m. Allen said, "Why are you doing this? Do you know God? Do you know why I'm here? I killed Abby and Libby."
Roberts said he saw outrageous acts of misbehavior to get the attention of guards who were watching. He went on to say he believed Allen was acting up more than having a mental health crisis.
On cross-examination Roberts was pressed on Allen's behavior behind bars. Defense attorney Brad Rozzi asked if Roberts had any formal mental health training, in which Roberts replied only what the state provided.
Roberts revealed that Allen began smearing feces over his cell and would put it on his face.
Roberts also testified that he remembers Allen hit his head on the wall for a long time at one point making his face black and blue.
He also told the court that Allen would refuse food at points for long periods of time.
Roberts admitted that some of Allen's "suicide companions" were going back to the general population at the prison and spreading information about the murder suspect.
Correctional Officer John Miller also testified; Allen expressed his desire to "burn in hell" while confessing to the killings.
Miller testified how Allen said he molested his sister and may even touched his daughter.
Miller testified Allen had an erection while talking about all of this.
As Miller testified on Tuesday, Allen's mouth was wide open and his eyes looked surprised by these remarks.
Miller went on to say Allen said on April 9, 2023, at 6:56 a.m., " I only killed them to give my family more time to be free." Then at 7:58 a.m. Allen said, " I'm sorry I killed those kids... I may have touched my daughter, I can't remember."
The jury asked Miller if it would be normal to act like Allen while refusing medication. Miller responded, "It's possible."
Correctional Officer Brandon Fisher testified that on April 29, 2023, Allen not only confessed to the murders, but also provided some details into what happened.
Fisher said Allen wanted to rape the girls, but he panicked and ended up killing them. Allen allegedly told Fisher he killed the girls with a box cutter and threw it into a dumpster behind CVS.
After 13 months, Allen at Westville was transferred to Wabash Valley Correctional Facility. Jason Bedwell, a correctional officer there was called to the stand.
Bedwell testified on February 4, 2024, Allen again confessed to the murders while crying and talking to himself. Bedwell said "I am sorry for what I did. Sorry for killing them."
Also on Monday, Indiana State Police forensic scientist Stacy Bozinovski said no DNA tied Allen to the murder scene in Delphi, Indiana.
 
Based on what has been provided as evidence this week, is it possible for the jury to return a verdict of guilty due to insanity themselves? What is the guidance for them regarding this, does anyone know? He clearly did it based on all his confessions and unique knowledge of their injuries. In one instance he said Satan did it. He has confessed to molesting his sister and thinks he molested his daughter too. Where the heck is this going?

Another thing was mentioned was that he was fine initially and did not go off the rails until he saw his lawyers. Is he swinging the lead ?
 
Based on what has been provided as evidence this week, is it possible for the jury to return a verdict of guilty due to insanity themselves? What is the guidance for them regarding this, does anyone know? He clearly did it based on all his confessions and unique knowledge of their injuries. In one instance he said Satan did it. He has confessed to molesting his sister and thinks he molested his daughter too. Where the heck is this going?

Another thing was mentioned was that he was fine initially and did not go off the rails until he saw his lawyers. Is he swinging the lead ?
I don’t see how. Nothing he has been diagnosed with really fits the definition of insanity.

Even if he is found guilty but mentally ill at the time, he would get the same sentence.

IMO, as I've said they're using an 8th amendment violation as a defense. That isn't going to work.
 
I don’t see how. Nothing he has been diagnosed with really fits the definition of insanity.

Even if he is found guilty but mentally ill at the time, he would get the same sentence.

IMO, as I've said they're using an 8th amendment violation as a defense. That isn't going to work.
So why aren't his lawyers recommending him to plead guilty?
 
Continuation of link in post 9033.

4:04 P.M.

At 1:34 p.m. Judge Gull has entered court room and court is back in session without the jury. She says that the report from Wescott fits into “totem pole hearsay” and explains that unless the state can cite specific hearsay, she will admit it.
The jury is back in the court room at 1:37 p.m. Defense attorney Jennifer Auger calls Jamie Jones, Richard Allen’s half-sister. She tells the jury that Allen is 5 years older than her and that they lived together all through childhood. She says Allen got married right after getting back from being in the military.
Jones tells the jury that Allen “did not ever molest her or touch her inappropriately.” Auger asks her, “do you love your brother?” Jones responds “yes.” Auger asks, “would you lie for him?” Jones says no. Auger concludes her direct examination.
At 1:42 p.m. prosecutor James Luttrell begins his cross-examination. He asks Jones, “does the name Chris ring a bell?” Auger objects as they were discussing neighborhood kids while Allen and Jones were growing up. The objection is sustained and Luttrell moved on.
At 1:43 The defense called Brittany Zapanta, Richard Allen’s daughter. Allen is reportedly nodding his head as she takes the stand. Zapanta tells the jury she moved out in 2015 for a job. She says she works in urgent care. She attended Ball State and then went to Indianapolis, she says.
Auger asks, “did your father molest you?” Zapanta says “no.” Auger asks “would you lie for him?” Zapanta says “no.” The defense finishes direct examination of her.
At 1:44 p.m. Luttrell begins his cross-examination. He asks Zapanta, “did you and your father go on the trail a lot?” and “Did you and your father go on the Monon High Bridge?” Auger objects to both questions.
Luttrell asks Zapanta if Allen changed his appearance after she left for Ball State. She says no.
He asks her another question about Allen’s height and weight. Auger objects. He shows Zapanta photos of Allen. Auger asks to approach the bench.
News 8’s Kyla Russell notes that Allen is smiling at Zapanta, but she does not make eye contact with him.
After the sidebar ends, Luttrell shows Zapanta more photos and asks if certain photos look like her dad in February 2017. She says yes. The gallery did not see the photos.
Auger objects and says the photos are outside the scope of questioning and there is another sidebar. Judge Gull sustains the objections.
At 1:56 p.m. the jury asks questions to Zapanta. She tells the jury she visited the bridge in her teens and crossed the high bridge with her dad and only crossed it one or two times total. Allen is seen smiling as Zapanta leaves.
At 1:56 p.m. the defense called Shelby Hicks. Hicks says she is a realtor and was 23 years old in 2017. She tells the jury on Feb. 13, 2017, she took her car in for repair and went for a hike with her boyfriend. She says they got to the trails around 2:30 p.m. and parked in connector lot. Defense attorney Andrew Baldwin is trying to get her to say Mears Entrance.
Baldwin asks her if there was anyone parked there other than her, she says there were other cars. Hicks says they walked toward the highway for five minutes and then went toward the high bridge. She tells the jury it takes 10-15 minutes to get to the bridge, she said they saw an “older gentleman,” two girls from school and “a few other kids.”
Hicks says she saw an older gentleman with a camera and saw Cheyanne and Shelby Duncan from school. She tells the jury she was “there first on the bridge’s platform.” She says she said hi to the friends from high school.
Hicks tells the jury she was on the platform for 15-20 minutes and went back to her car with her boyfriend. She tells the jury she does not remember if other cars were there when she left.
Hicks says the next day her boyfriend Daniel wanted to tell law enforcement what they had seen. She says they went to police but were asked to come back at another time and they went back that evening.
Hicks tells the jury she did not hear anything on the bridge. She says she met with law enforcement twice, first on Feb. 14, 2017 and then again in March of 2017. She says the police never took her phone to extract data.
At 2:23 p.m. prosecution attorney Stacey Diener begins her cross-examination. Hicks says her cellular provider in 2017 was Sprint. She tells the jury she’s never walked across the high bridge. She says on that day she left the platform before her friends returned.
The jury asks questions:
  1. Was the man with the camera old? Hicks says yes.
  2. Did you arrive at the bridge at 2:55? Hicks says “could have been.”
At 2:29 p.m. the defense calls Steve Mullins. The defense shows Mullins a list of Ford Focus SEs in white registered in Cass, Carroll and Tippecanoe counties between 2011 and 2017.
Baldwin says he only focused on cars that were similar to Allen’s Prosecutor McLeland objects to the exhibit, saying it was not certified.
Baldwin asks how many people owned similar hatch back models in Carroll county or surrounding areas in 2017. Mullins says he does not know.
Baldwin says Mullins created a log of missing interviews. He says on March 18 that Mullins did not say that at the hearings in March. Baldwin raises his voice then apologizes to the judge.
Mullins looks at the transcript from the March hearing, he admits that at the time, there was no log. He tells the jury that there is a log in the filing cabinets from early on and says he has gone through the cabinet and found it since he testified in March.
Baldwin then asks about Libby’s phone.
 

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