LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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As Emu clearly didnt want to give further details I checked it out myself. The perp who shot and killed Officer Greg Ferency was charged with his murder and is presently proceeding with an insanity defence. Found nothing about Odin connected to the case. The perp was an ex Terre Haute correctional officer. This is a red herring and nothing to do with the convicted murderer of the girls. So if anyone wants to look it up, just google the officer's name.
 
She articulated that so well.
I think so too. While all we have heard has been from the other side til now leaking and all else, it's a different day finally. Every statement I've heard has been exceptional. But yes, Kelsi's was VERY good. I'm so glad they and LE are now finally getting to tell THEIR side and the gag order is lifted. The one I linked with almost all the statements verbatim is pretty darned good too.
 
As Emu clearly didnt want to give further details I checked it out myself. The perp who shot and killed Officer Greg Ferency was charged with his murder and is presently proceeding with an insanity defence. Found nothing about Odin connected to the case. The perp was an ex Terre Haute correctional officer. This is a red herring and nothing to do with the convicted murderer of the girls. So if anyone wants to look it up, just google the officer's name.
It's been on here before I believe, maybe not that article but just saying it is not "new" news that this happened.

Yes I agree, it has nothing to do with this.

I'm not going down the O highway. I'm only interested right now in the side that's had to be too silent for too long.

I am doubtful of the reasons RA's family really did not attend. Am a bit curious about that. But also do not care at the moment.

It's the girls' time, the families' time and LE's time.

IMO RA is a total monster and I think that's been articulated pretty well.

And the D? Well, they're just saying to that what we've been saying all along.

None of them can repair the lives from what they've done. I'm not doing any O thing.

Just speaking for self but it's all so obvious, always has been.

The man is a monster.

Several also credited volunteer Shank and said they wouldn't have been here without her.

You know I've watched a couple of HTC's. And I have said many a time they aren't my fave and they are not. There are a few reasons for that, some I won't go into, but when she actually attends something, she gives very full and accurate coverage.

Her hub well, he's always quoting books and diagnosing and I do not always agree, and old works a lot of them. Pontificating. Not a fan.

But again the coverage is pretty "on" and she attends a lot of the things in some cases so in that regard, I will give kudos. Plenty of the families in some of these crimes trust them and so that's a reason I watch.

She puts in a lot of work honestly doing so.

Yet on one night recently the show was the killer of the CEO and it being some love thing gone wrong and it was more than I could take. But that's the hub thinking that. So two sides to their channel.

But I won't knock her coverage when she actually attends because she brings some pretty good fully covered things.
 
If anyone is interested, Gray has one where Lauren was on but it's like 3.5 hours. Just saw it when I am likely going to cooking. Haven't watched but perhaps some would be interested in that. Not for me at this time.
 
Can you summarize what the good/interesting points are? I am not going to read anything to do with Odin for a start. RA was there and admitted it.
If you want me to read something - could you please copy pasta the relevant bit? So many articles are not available to me anyway.

I went into this but it would not show any details of what you claimed. I tried several times and am just wasting my time on click bait.

No, you'll have to watch it.
 
The above was good. I just actually finished it. Like John Kelly.

Several good points in it. One of which is how Abby hid the phone, came from the guest not from him, but a lot of other good points too.

Like about who RA really is and also the conspiracy nuts, etc.

A good all around watch, his usually are.
 
No, you'll have to watch it.
There was nothing in there that came up for me to watch or to find any details. So i read my own sources. If you cannot post the video (if it is a video) or copy pasta the text (if it is an article) then it is not possible.

You are giving out wrong info. On the other thread you said he was convicted and that wasn't true. This is the latest info i have found so am posting it here too.

 
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Delphi murders: Jury reviewed 4 key pieces of evidence before finding Richard Allen guilty​

Jurors in the Delphi murders trial reviewed four key pieces of evidence while they deliberated the fate of Richard Allen.

According to previous reports, jurors took a second look at evidence during their deliberations on Saturday, Nov. 9, in the presence of Allen and his attorneys. At the time, it wasn’t clear which exhibits they wanted to review.

But according to court orders entered into the record this week, the jury saw exhibits 207, 246, 290 and 291.

Exhibit 207 was enhanced audio taken from the infamous “Bridge Guy” video Libby German recorded on her phone on Feb. 13, 2017—the day of the murders. The video was a key piece of evidence from the very start of the investigation.

Exhibit 246 was an enhanced version of the “Bridge Guy” video itself.

Exhibit 290 was video of Allen’s October 13, 2022, interview with Liggett and Steve Mullin, the former Delphi police chief who now works as a criminal investigator for the Carroll County Prosecutor’s Office.

During the interview, it dawned on Allen that police considered him a suspect in the case. Liggett and Mullin confronted him with evidence they’d gathered and asked him if he was “Bridge Guy.”

Exhibit 291 was video of Allen’s October 26, 2022, interview with Jerry Holeman, an Indiana State Police investigator who worked on the case. Allen repeatedly denied any involvement in the murders during questioning.

At the end of the interview, Allen told Holeman to arrest him. Holeman obliged.
These are the details of the two police interviews with RA that the jury watched, as shown in the links from the article posted above by SheWho. First time i have read these.

"Arrest me or take me home"


"The damage is done"

 
All of the German family statements are in this link. This one i have copied is from Libby's mum.

Carrie Timmins Impact statement.

Your Honor,

I’ve struggled for weeks over writing this. Because, I honestly am not sure how to explain the path of destruction left in the wake of the decisions made by Richard Allen on February 13, 2017. That day changed all of our lives, in so many ways, forever. Libby was always my go to for advice. She somehow would have known exactly what to say in this situation. And I have no doubt that she is currently holding my pen. I had no problem getting the word out when he was just “bridge guy” and had not been identified. But I honestly don’t know how to process the fact that a husband and father is capable of the horrendous acts of brutality inflicted upon our beautiful children! I was totally blind to the fact that such evil actually existed. I don’t know which is worse, knowing or not knowing.

The last 2,867 days (as of 12/20) have been absolute hell for Libby and Abby’s friends and family! Next week, we should be celebrating our birthdays together (12/25 and 12/27). Libby would be 22. She should be here! I quit celebrating after her 14th and my 39th. I can’t help but to see her grin at that. Understanding the anxiety that she knew I had about turning the dreaded 40…

As Libby’s mom, I am left with so many what ifs? I’m left without memories of her growing up.

Getting her driver’s license and first car. Her first job. She didn’t get to graduate and go on to college. We were cheated out of seeing her be the best auntie. She doesn’t get to fall in love, get married and have babies! She was robbed of the opportunity to experience life and fulfill all of the dreams and aspirations she already had at such a young age.


I can’t even put into words what it feels like to see other parents and their children get those things. For their lives to go on, makes no sense to me. I shouldn’t be jealous of them, but I am. I can’t understand how life managed to go on for everyone else, while mine stopped.

Instead of those memories and milestones, I am left with this massive grief. A literal hole in my soul. Broken relationships, shattered hearts and broken dreams. I struggle daily with guilt, crippling anxiety, complex PTSD and severe depression. But, I have continued to persevere in a world that I don’t want to live in without her.

My daughters were robbed of their big sister, their childhood, their innocence and life as they knew it. They had to grow up through so much turmoil. Alexis turned 11 just three days after her sister’s body was found, on my grandmother’s birthday, Birthdays are hard around here.

I’ll never understand how he was able to get away with it for so long. How can such evil hide in plain sight? Continuing to walk down streets lined with his picture. Making a mockery of law enforcement, the families, the community and especially Libby and Abby for nearly six years!!

Only Richard Allen has those answers. He has claimed remorse and a need to apologize. I won’t hold my breath waiting, but I do deserve those answers! Libby and Abby deserve the whole truth to come out. And I am all ears.

While there will never really be justice or closure, and nothing will bring my daughter back, I am so very proud of her for not only exposing her and Abby’s killer, but also bringing much needed attention to so many cases near and far. This tragedy hasn’t completely stopped Libby from accomplishing at least one dream from beyond the grave. Her courage and strength will live on as she guides us through this lifetime. Until we meet again, she is my sunshine.

 
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More victim impact statements here.


DELPHI, Ind. (WXIN) – Richard Allen, the man convicted in the Delphi murders, learned his punishment Friday.

Special Judge Fran Gull sentenced Allen to 130 years for the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German, whose bodies were found in February 2017. Friday’s proceedings also included victim impact statements.

Allen had faced between 45 years and 130 years in prison. He was given two 65-year sentences to be served consecutively, for a total of 130 years.

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The sentencing hearing comes more than a month after a jury found Allen guilty on four counts of murder. The verdict followed 17 days of testimony in the high-profile case.

Prosecutors said Allen put himself on the Monon High Bridge — near where the girls’ bodies were found — on Feb. 13, 2017, the day of the murders. They also said they linked him to the murders through an unspent cartridge found at the crime scene. A forensic firearms expert testified the cartridge had been cycled through Allen’s Sig Sauer P226, a firearm recovered by police during an October 2022 search of Allen’s home.

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The line outside the Carroll County Courthouse before the sentencing hearing on Dec. 20, 2024. (WXIN)

While in custody, Allen confessed to the murders dozens of times. Gull allowed the confessions — and the bullet evidence — to be admitted at trial over the objections of Allen’s defense lawyers, Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi. The attorneys argued Allen’s confessions were the result of mental duress he suffered while being held in isolation for months.


The special judge, appointed to the case by the Indiana Supreme Court after the original judge recused himself, stymied the defense’s efforts to present its alternative murder theory in court. Allen’s attorneys blamed Odinists, members of a Norse pagan group, for killing the girls as part of a ritual.

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Richard Allen is seen in an Oct. 2024 photo provided by the Indiana State Police. (Indiana State Police)

Allen’s attorneys filed a motion this week maintaining his innocence and saying they would not present evidence at Friday’s sentencing hearing. They plan to move forward with an appeal.

The trial began with jury selection in Fort Wayne on Oct. 14 before the proceedings shifted to Delphi on Oct. 18. The state and defense delivered closing arguments on Nov. 7, putting the case in the jury’s hands. Jurors delivered their verdict on Nov. 11.

During the sentencing hearing, Allen responded to a handful of questions from Gull. It was the first time he’d spoken in court. He provided his name, answered a few questions and declined to speak on his own behalf. Gull advised him he had the right to appeal.

Friday’s proceedings

Six family members described the impact of the girls’ murders on their lives and admonished the defense for its handling of the case. They were upset about the release of crime scene photos that stemmed from an evidence leak in 2023. The photos forced them to relive their nightmare over and over, they told the court.


Lt. Jerry Holeman, an Indiana State Police investigator who handled the case for years, said police “poured our hearts and souls” into the case for nearly eight years and called the murders “very brutal.” He said no one can imagine the fear the girls encountered that day and noted that Allen went on to live a normal life like nothing had happened.

Holeman interrogated Allen in October 2022. The interview ended with Allen daring Holeman to arrest him. Holeman obliged.

Kerry Timmons, Libby German’s mother, couldn’t adequately explain the “path of destruction” Allen left in his wake. She told the court she couldn’t process how Allen, a husband and father, could’ve done something so heinous.

German would be 22 years old and should be here, Timmons said, and the family was “cheated” out of her life, leaving them with “massive grief” and a “hole in my soul.”

“I’ll never understand how you were able to get away with this for so long,” she told the court.

“Please put me on your visitors’ list. I’ll listen,” she said, alluding to Allen’s desire to apologize to the girls’ families from one of his confessions.

Josh Lank, a cousin of German’s, said she was one-of-a-kind, and that Allen took “so much away from those girls.”

He said God had no place for him but “the devil has a place for him.”

“This man has made my family’s life a living hell,” he said. “Now it’s time for your life to be a living hell.”

He suggested Allen was a “dead man walking.”

Abby Williams’ grandmother, Diana Erskin, called the sentencing hearing a “day of great sadness.”

Williams brought so much joy to the family, she said. She wondered how she would ever erase the memories of the autopsy and crime scene photos.

“Sleep is not an escape,” she said, adding she seldom sleeps through the night without waking up.

“I will never be the same person I was before Abigail’s murder,” she said. “[Allen] took Abby’s life on earth but she had already given her heart to God.”

Williams’ grandfather, Eric Erskin, also took the stand. Like other family members, he said the murders were difficult to process and likened Abby’s death to “losing a limb that will never grow back.”

He called the murders a “horrific and senseless” act. What he saw at the trial only “affirmed he worst nightmares” about what his granddaughter and her friend went through.

“You will never take away our memories and their legacy,” he said.

He criticized Allen for failing to set the record straight when he had the chance.

Becky Patty, German’s grandmother, appeared angry on the stand. She had previously delivered emotional testimony during the trial. She said Allen was lying in wait and drank beer for “liquid courage” before he “viciously and heartlessly” killed the girls.

She called him a coward and noted he’d developed photos for German’s funeral as part of his job as a pharmacy technician at the local CVS. This proved he showed no remorse, she told the court.

“He robbed us all,” she said. “The world was robbed.”

Patty then set her sights on Allen’s defense attorneys. Their actions, she said, had twisted the knife over and over, with crime scene photos still being shared online to this day, victimizing the families and the girls.

She described the “deafening silence” at home and the grandchildren who would never come into their lives.

“Their lives mattered,” she said. “He is the one responsible for all of this. This sentence needs to reflect the murders and each day [the girls] would have lived.”

She told the court she hoped he ended up in the general prison population so he could have the “human interaction he desperately craves.”

Patty also said she hoped Allen’s “relationship with God” will compel him to stop the case from going forward.

“I live with my choice to let them go to the trails that day,” Patty said. “What about you, Richard Allen?”

Mike Patty, German’s grandfather, also addressed the court. He called out the podcasters and YouTubers who suggested the family and police were corrupt. He reminded the court that the family received crime scene photos and noted Allen had showed no remorse and no regret.

Like other family members, he said he couldn’t imagine the fear the girls felt once they encountered Allen on Feb. 13, 2017. He asked for a harsh sentence.

“This is a man who, if allowed out, will kill again,” he said. “He’s a dangerous man.”

Once the victim impact statements were over, Gull asked Allen if he wanted to address the court.

“No, your honor,” Allen answered.

Gull said she has been a judge for a long time and presided over some hideous cases. The Delphi murders ranked “right up there,” she said. The impact on the families was “astonishing” and they had to deal with Allen’s “carnage.”

Gull then addressed Allen directly.

“You sit here and roll your eyes at me as you have rolled your eyes at me throughout this trial,” Gull said. It was a telling moment, given that media and court observers couldn’t see Allen from their vantage point to gauge his reaction to various happenings in court.

With her role in the case at its end, Gull lifted the gag order that had been in place for more than two years. The proceedings concluded with a contentious exchange between defense attorney Jennifer Auger and McLeland.
 
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So they are going to appeal. I cannot see any grounds. He admitted he was there and admitted the murders. They made up a defence because they didn't actually have one. The only defence i could see is an insanity one. In fact i think he is insane and it has just occurred to me he could have kept copies of the funeral pics for his own depraved reasons that he did for free for the families. The thought of that makes me sick. Rolling his eyes at the judge also confirms to me that he very well might be insane.

While i have not agreed with everything Judge Gull has done, she certainly did her job well in this terrible case.
 
I've seen all the statements and watched the presser and ALL should do at least that.

It's past TIME people start seeing the other side of this rather than listening to the D bullsheet, who did not abide by the gag order.

He IS an absolute MONSTER.

The presser too has a LOT of impactful stuff in it.

I for one am not going to go down any sideways paths here. It's all very clear he did this and the impact it had. If some can't see that, then imo they are watching very selective things because it's all there.

He was always right under their noses which only adds to the evil he is. Went right on with his life. Etc. Tries not to talk as that is HIS voice.

It is the time for the families now and the ridiculous stuff out there to stop. The anger they feel over what the D did imo is very justified, the very intentional leak and pics that could not be pulled back. I have a feeling this is not over in things to come and it shouldn't be because all of that was totally wrong.

Almost all talked of that. And slammed them and well should have. The D and him.

Jmo but I've never not been able to see it and all the sideways stuff has never once shown me anything.

And if anyone else was ever involved, which I don't believe, it's up for RA to tell of that because no one can remove him from being ther and having been the one that did this so it would only mean he had knowledge or help from someone else, NOT that he is not guilty because he is and that's been proven. None of it not one time took him away from being the one.

His D attys were outright named and should have been, and that they did such, and should have been.

Imo they are disgusting, and he's beyond that. He should NEVER be on the streets again.

Now there is a former coworker telling of something which would relate to his "sex addiction". They have held off til the gag order was lifted. That's such a nice label for an absolute pig.

I need to stop so am. People need to stop falling for the spin and look at the facts.
 
So they are going to appeal. I cannot see any grounds. He admitted he was there and admitted the murders. They made up a defence because they didn't actually have one. The only defence i could see is an insanity one. In fact i think he is insane and it has just occurred to me he could have kept copies of the funeral pics for his own depraved reasons that he did for free for the families. The thought of that makes me sick. Rolling his eyes at the judge also confirms to me that he very well might be insane.

While i have not agreed with everything Judge Gull has done, she certainly did her job well in this terrible case.
Everyone I've heard from doesn't believe the appeals will go anywhere but who knows, we have seen some crazy stuff nowadays.

I differ with you on him being insane, apologies. He is manipulative and cunning.

I've always thought that of the pics he developed by the way, would have been right up his alley to keep some or at least view them.

I guess what insanity actually is is the thing.

I also have not always agreed with Gull but the other judge couldn't make it at all. She did do her job and basically all who attended said as much to on her rulings during trial, etc. She made it through despite a ton of b.s. TONS of it actually.
 
Ok i searched for the officer's name and Kimster posted on the fallen officers thread 2021 and this was also discussed earlier this year on this thread too, so pretty sure everything has all been covered about this before.

Post in thread 'Tributes ~ Fallen Officers 2021' Tributes ~ Fallen Officers 2021
 
I don't think i have seen Abby's mum's statement. Saw and posted reports of her grandparents' statements. Will post it if i can find it.
 
I don't think i have seen Abby's mum's statement. Saw and posted reports of her grandparents' statements. Will post it if i can find it.
I heard it but not sure from where. I think HTC, don't think she had it but she took tons of notes on the ones she did not have. I could be wrong though.
 

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