FL MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13 *Found Deceased*

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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home​

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

Madeline ‘Maddie’ Soto was last seen on Monday, one day after she and her family celebrated her 13th birthday. Maddie’s mother, Jenn Soto, said surveillance video shows Maddie hanging out in a church parking lot on February 26 after being dropped off for school, but she never made it inside.

"I’m trying to hope for the best, but I’m scared for her," said Jenn Soto. "I want her to be okay; I want her to be safe… I don’t want her to come back harmed. I just want her back – whatever that means, I just want her back."

Jenn Soto said sheriff’s deputies are using K9s and a piece of Maddie’s clothing to try to track her scent near Town Loop Boulevard.

According to Jenn Soto, Maddie had never run away before. She said the teen had forgotten her cell phone at home that morning, but that was normal.

As of Wednesday morning, a variety of search teams are out searching for Maddie.


MEDIA - MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13
 
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Well, to me, it isn't a big deal, I mean, you'd have to tell me why it's a big deal, lol!
And you lost me at "she would be fine with all if it was the three". Fine with what?

If Jenn knew, or even knew subconsciously, or was not okay with or jealous of this child her bf relationship and them just being closer than say she and him or she and M, fine with it as long as all three were part of the unit, etc. but if turning into a twosome and abandoning her... I don't see, no offense of course, how you don't see any red flags with her saying this was her biggest fear. What she is talking about is not someone going out for groceries.

I see absolutely no context in mentioning the Woody Allen thing that can be taken as some normal fear or anything anyone would even think of unless they know something about this illegal and unnatural and SA relationship.

You are always willing to talk and not take offense, I cannot understand how you think this is no huge red flag? For Jenn to say this? The Woody Allen thing is WELL known but actually probably not by as many of their generation. My daughters are about that age (jenn's, his) and I would be doubtful they'd know sh*t about it. I do. They likely would not.
 
I am curious as to what you mean by your last sentence. What is it you would like to know that was not released or determined? I mean of course we never know all that LE does, etc. but you seem to be talking of something specific you would like to know?
Well I think I'm most interested to know the extent of Sterns' participation on Telegraph.
And why he returned to the dumpsite....needless say, motive (of the murder, I mean).
In his last interview, he said he was in trouble before for which he was read his rights and I'd like to know more about that...
There are probably other things I'd like to know but those are the big ones.
 
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Indeed, it appears to me that the only reason he came back at 8:19 was to tend to the dog.
And yes, the only reason he admitted to going back is because he was confronted with the fact that his vehicle was seen on video at 8:19 headed back that way. And indeed, to get his clicker is not only an absurd excuse (seriously, that one takes the cake, lol!) but we know it's a lie because video shows that he didn't enter the front like he said he did, he entered the back!
I think it very well may have been about the dog but not convinced the clicker could not have played in. He did enter the back, true, but are you saying anyone can with no clicker, pass, etc.? The only gate they can get through to my knowledge without such, etc. is the front if the guard is on duty because then they can recognize, do the parking pass thing, etc...
Well, I think a clicker is needed to get in from the back which is why he lied about entering from the front.
 
All I know is that he had plenty of opportunity to discard both but didn't.

Your response re Croc. I have to find another way of doing this. I can do what you did with first response, with other person responding back not so much lol.

He had plenty of opportunity for all but how did he do with all? He left a trail, he is on video with a dead body, and a ton more. I wouldn't necessarily say he had plenty of time when he was free or not having to worry about someone coming in, being caught, etc. He is an idiot.

And did Jenn not get up and go oh my Maddie is in school with only one shoe on but maybe she did not notice. I mean would you admit arguably Jenn had a lot going on under her nose she missed? Like years of SA even when in a bed with a bf and her far too old daughter to be doing that with?

I mean the way I look at it, either she knew or like you maybe believe, she was in denial, naive and did not know for years on end but then that also applies to I guess she didn't notice the Croc and all this other stuff.... Didn't she go to put her own on and wonder why there was an extra? Who knows maybe she wore different shoes that day...

All I am saying is this kind of thing is far from dismissible at this point and there is a ton of it.

Then in the next breath JS acts like the most involved and attentive mother... Other than when she needs to send her 13 year old to a single bed with her bf etc. Or when time for Maddie to take her meds, etc. always supervised, etc. I don't buy most of that for a minute. But that's just me.

I'm sure we will learn more, a lot more, but back to the original point, there is no reason that Croc should be in Jenn's room based on the versions of the story both from him and from her, and for him to have to get rid of it from Jenn's room to begin with...

You know, Jenn is also on record saying of course she had Maddie getting her clothes picked and ready the night before, etc... And in very short order she kicked them out of her room and sent them to bed "together". Lots accomplished in 1/2 hour by the way... So did Maddie go upstairs with one shoe on or only take one to put with her clothing, etc... But who knows, maybe there are ten pairs of Crocs in the home..

You know, she talks as if they always slept together when together, we know they tried to at his parents too and talks as if she only let Maddie and him sleep together less than five times, what she could count on one hand pretty sure she said, but then she goes on to say things at different times that sound a whole lot more than that..

I am wandering some and respect your opinion but I don't see how you cant' have questions where she is concerned. She has flat out admitted to when her daughter was missing, false statements. As in seeing her get dressed. Oh I wanted to believe I saw her. That is one of the poorest excuses I have ever heard. And it fell very flat with me.

So I am curious though, what would you say about her? Do you at least think this woman needs some very serious help? Do you think she could have done better? Do you think she fell down in her role? I'm not judging her, but am asking, I don't really see her even guilting herself, boy I would be...

You know she was not even helping her daughter to learn to sleep alone or mature and yet her daughter was doing far more mature things since the age of seven or whatever than her mother supposedly ever knew...

I'm getting strong at the case, I KNOW you understand taht... The whole Disney thing too... Who are these people...


One last thing, would you agree JS and SS never fully adulted in their own lives?
 
I just know that he was tracked very near to his parent's home and subsequent to that, the harddrive was missing from the computer he'd used just that prior Sun morn.
Btw, it was dashcam video of a police vehicle at the scene of an accident that caught his vehicle go by!

Makes total sense agree. I can believe also he was down there connecting to their wifi to try to eliminate online accounts, etc. on top of it... This is another thing that Jen was not truthful about. You can't say you know when he left if you did not know. She covers for him constantly. Or assumes. Her CHILD is missing, you want to give accurate info and she does things like this day after day.
 
Well, there's no evidence against her and I see no reason to think there might still be some sort of evidence against her that wouldn't have already been found.

I think there is but we aren't going to hear it right now. He is the big fish and a BIG one to get off and keep off the streets first and foremost. Jenn is small potatoes in comparison right now. Followed a ton of child cases where the mother is charged on far, far less than this. She isn't clear by a long shot in my opinion.

So tell me, as a bit of a new part or conversation, your opinion of her overall at this point...

I can tell you I'm not convinced she was involved in the murder or coverup but also can tell you I could easily believe it based on everything. I'm still open on some things.

So she trusted him, was in denial, was a doped up, had mental issues, not prefectly attentive mother? However, it seems denial or ignorance has worked for her throughout but she almost insisted to detectives like three times on seeing his face her face and mouth on his you know what, etc. So now she wants to not bury her head but needs to SEE it?

I am discussing, debating and I feel you get that and always have, some don't understand that one bit.

Would you agree she needs some serious help, did fail and most mothers would be seriously guilting themselves if they did not know?

Do you believe she ever fully adulted any more than Stephan?

Do you believe her a negligent mom? Do you think her intelligent or untillegent? I think some of these things will make for good conversation.

I mean someone can be very intelligent yet have not a lick of common sense and trusts naively

There's just so many things with her though. For me I can't have too many before it tips the scales and with JS it is beyond too many...

So MANY... Who lied when they want their child found?? That shows at minimum she is worried more about self or him than her daughter. Repeatedly.

Not sure how much further I will get here, already put off a lot of time and am going to be scrambling. I look FORWARD though to more discussion on it. It's the reason I am around...
 
I don't know where they found the Croc and so at this point, my only observation is that Sterns must not have realized he hadn't discarded it along with the other one.
Okay. And true. IF I come across it again, I will try to share and give a time stamp. Unlikely I will unless comes up in new things because I can't go back and rewatch voluminous stuff lo. I get little time too but if I do and can find someone who has organized pics and videos, etc., maybe one day who knows...
 
I can believe also he was down there connecting to their wifi to try to eliminate online accounts, etc. on top of it... This is another thing that Jen was not truthful about. You can't say you know when he left if you did not know.
How does it make any sense to you that she'd call Sterns' father looking for Sterns and then lie about how long he'd been gone?
 
How does it make any sense to you that she'd call Sterns' father looking for Sterns and then lie about how long he'd been gone?
It doesn't. That's my point. And how can she even say how long gone to the dad when clearly she didn't know and she knew she did not know? it's just like her seeing Maddie getting dressed or claiming a time Stearns was in her bedroom, if she did not know, you SAY you do not know. You don't lie or assume in a police investigation or when you child is missing.

Speaking of missing, I think we may be missing each other on this one. She keeps doing things like this and has throughout. To me they are lies but at minimum she is claiming to know something she doesn't and giving times and more and misleading. No?
 
I think she was saying how long she'd been up, not how long he'd been gone.
Maybe so, but Stephans dad asked her and then say, well he's been gone since I got up, about this time, that's all I know. Instead she names the time he has been gone since. Do you see what I am saying? She does this kind of thing all of the time and it causes her more trouble and it is not true, just say you don't know, or I was sleeping, or I know only this much, he was gone when I awoke.

if she wants to navigate this and is NOT lying, she needs to stop that. Imo. I forget what she said, that he'd been gone about an hour or something? She coudln't know that, or would claim so I'm sure anyhow. He didn't ask her how long she'd been up, he asked how long he had been missing.

When she is interviewing and such, she seems to track just fine and have above average intelligence so I have a hard time when she does things like this, buying into she doesn't know any better to answer the QUESTION.

And you know if she is ever charged, this kind of thing a jury is not going to buy into either. She is assuming or as you saying at minimum saying when she got up rather than when he went missing but she does not make that clear by any means.

There's many reasons people doubt her and this is one of them and she has done this kind of stuff repeatedly, and it seems also then that she is covering for him, oh he hasn't been gone long at all... When he has.... She needs to get that, and stop that. IMO of course.

Gotta fly out the door pretty soon.

I really have missed talking with you on this one.
 
Maybe so, but Stephans dad asked her and then say, well he's been gone since I got up, about this time, that's all I know. Instead she names the time he has been gone since. Do you see what I am saying? She does this kind of thing all of the time and it causes her more trouble and it is not true, just say you don't know, or I was sleeping, or I know only this much, he was gone when I awoke.
She is assuming or as you saying at minimum saying when she got up rather than when he went missing but she does not make that clear by any means.
Well, I know that's what he said- that he asked her how long he'd been gone and that she said 25 minutes but what did she say about when she woke up? I remember her telling detectives about the phone call but I don't remember precisely her version of the dialogue.
Bear in mind, too, that the father was convinced that he'd seen an illicit photo on Jennifer's phone and when the detective (essentially) told him that was impossible he said well, he must have "envisioned" it. My point is that we're relying on their memory of the conversation and so we can't take either to the bank, we can only go with what makes sense. (And since my way is the ony way that makes sense, I think we should just go with that, lol!)
 
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Re post above, I've found the interview in which Jennifer said she woke up at 9am.
Now, re the father's "25 minutes", he said it was "10:45-ish" when she called and so I don't know whether he's mistaken about the time or Jennifer was mistaken about when she woke up or mistaken about how long she'd been up before she called but it appears to me that it must be one of those three.
 
Well, I know that's what he said- that he asked her how long he'd been gone and that she said 25 minutes but what did she say about when she woke up? I remember her telling detectives about the phone call but I don't remember precisely her version of the dialogue.
Bear in mind, too, that the father was convinced that he'd seen an illicit photo on Jennifer's phone and when the detective (essentially) told him that was impossible he said well, he must have "envisioned" it. My point is that we're relying on their memory of the conversation and so we can't take either to the bank, we can only go with what makes sense. (And since my way is the ony way that makes sense, I think we should just go with that, lol!)
I know about the photo remark yes.

I watched something hours ago and it was the entire part where people get where she said what Stephan did was not evil. She did say that more or less. There are just too many things with her for me. Too many things like here (not you) that have to be explained. I had seen the interview already but maybe I never finished it because I do have some opened ones iet I saw most of but never finished out. I actually had put on a new one, hours ago when I couldn't sleep, from The Behavior Panel who I know you don't watch, but if I recall you will watch Dr. G. They were using clips from her harder interview with LE where she is sitting on the couch. I have seen that but maybe I did not finish the last bit, if not, it is still open for me to do so. I have a bit with one more of more minor interviews with The Docket still open too. Of friends, etc.

Anyhow, my point is, how much has to be explained away with her right now and to date? I mean you keep giving reasons for this or that on many things. Numbers of them.

This part of this couch interview and more of it around that time in it is pretty damning. She also talks as if she knew something, had to have a rule which she eventually broke about them not ever having sleepover and when pressed on that, or why you even would need one, should not even be a question, imo she fails there big time. I think shek knew something had happened at some point and she let it go, absorbed it, whatever... There's too much with her, I'm sorry.

As far as Stephan's dad, yeah, it's what he says but she also has done this kind of thing with LE more than once. Gives a time. On seeing her get dressed and many things. And far later has to explain and even admit she lied or never knew on a multitude of things is the problem.

I don't know re the murder but I tell you nothing would surprise me at this point, but I am convinced she knew re the SA and she calls that not evil basically, I was actually going to put what I watched earlier on and give a time stamp. He is only evil if he killed her. THe SA I guess does not matter... Is how she comes across. Totally.

And so it is not just about Stephan's dad or what the fact is there because she kept doing this kind of thing.

And when that detective boxed her in as to why she needed a rule (she later broke) she pretty much shows the truth imo. Something had happened imo and she knew of it. It is jmo and I know you are not going to agree.

I have seen so many parents charged on less than this. Less than sending their kid to bed with an adult male. And more.

I have lost almost all sympathy for her. And watching the Behavior Panel too, whether one likes them or not, pointed out a few things that are obvious as well. Everything is about how it affects her. Everything. None of it is about her daughter or what she went through or suffered, and even when alive, about Jenn's sleep, about everything. THey talked lack of empathy and more and how people like that relate to what is best for them, etc.

It was interesting but even if not into that, the parts of that interview....

These detectives are doing an outstanding job and they have all this. I am reaching a point where she disgusts me.

No matter what the deal was when he took her car to North Port and her claiming whatever supposedly to his dad, this was far from her first time of claiming something like this and naming a time.

I have to tell ya one other thing I have to wonder is what does Stephan have on her... Fraud, something else? Because whether it is the murder, the SA or just something else in life, she seems to have some concern of not turning on him...

When this exchange of a few things, probably most interest part of the interview, like when the detective asked her why she would need a RULE for them not sleeping together, who needs that and why, man it became something and the BP said too, and oh why she would get an attorney or insist on one for someone having assaulted her daughter, the detective asked!, and this is when all the not evil stuff came up and so on, I mean that is impossible to ignore.... I don't need them either to show me, I have been seeing it all for myself... It is just confirming what I have been seeing...

IMO there was a rule for one thing because something had happened she knew about...

I asked before and know you are decided but will say I don't get that at all, and have been since even before we knew how much. I'm not and my tide is changing.

There are so MANY things for her to explain and even when she does, they are things no parent would do or acquiesce to.

Anyhow, my week is going to be something else with a big thing going on and hopefully as of next week, it is something off my plate for good.

As always, I enjoy this discussion big time, and wish I had more time to pinpoint the things I am talking of.

I will also say this, she is not off the hook imo. It just is not paramount to them right now but they have boxed a lot in and documented it...Again imo.
 
Re post above, I've found the interview in which Jennifer said she woke up at 9am.
Now, re the father's "25 minutes", he said it was "10:45-ish" when she called and so I don't know whether he's mistaken about the time or Jennifer was mistaken about when she woke up or mistaken about how long she'd been up before she called but it appears to me that it must be one of those three.
She is always like this. Because imo it is never the truth.

I am sure phone records and doc the time she called his dad.

So she's mistaken again? She always is it seems, to explain everything, no?

And she keeps having so much to explain....

I have to get moving some but you do see this no? I mean I guess it could be put down to as she says for all of them that time warp ADD, etc. thing... But if you don't know, don't say. Especially when you have a missing child imo?

She is way beyond the number of things for me to accept. And I think she knew of the SA or sometihing prior with it... If not all of it throughout. I am not sure on the murder, etc...but I certainly do not have her in the clear.
 
I've never heard her say anything like that.
The SA apparently was not evil, she does not want to think he is evil and only if he killed her is he evil more or less, etc. I will find it and link it if I get a chance with a time stamp. Right now it is doubtful, I could have earlier. But I am dealing with a situation that I think is going to make for a week from HE77 because supposed professionals CANNOT do their freaking JOB.

Sorry. I think I am in for a heckuva week with some things I was on top of last week but no one else is. Now getting to last minute they are thinking they are attending to but they have sh*t all wrong.
And I have no time to get it corrected without probably having to talk to work and take time off at this rate.

Grrrr.

Anyhow, if don't respond, that will be a large part of the reason why. Will try later though if get a chance. Believe me I won't be able to reach any professional at night anyhow... Or even weekdays. Does anyone do their job these days??

Anyhow, there is a big segment that is very dam*ING to Jenn imo. Of that interview.
 
Or Chris Sterns was envisioning again. Lol!
he wasn't part of all her lies and claimed times and knowledge though. Not sure which thing you are referring to here of her many. I'd have to go back to see what I was referring to and I am about out of time.

have a great day, pretty sure I am in for one heckuva week. I'll survive. It is sure far from the first time. now my phone is blowing up, probably because it is Monday and they are realizing they don't have any of their ducks in a row. grrrr, grrr, grrrr.

Anyhow, OT, just saying one reason I may not be around. There goes the phone again. Not even looking at it until I get time as I tried and now have to go to work and I imagine they want answers to what they should have been already taking care of.
 

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