FL MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13 *Found Deceased*

Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home​

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

Madeline ‘Maddie’ Soto was last seen on Monday, one day after she and her family celebrated her 13th birthday. Maddie’s mother, Jenn Soto, said surveillance video shows Maddie hanging out in a church parking lot on February 26 after being dropped off for school, but she never made it inside.

"I’m trying to hope for the best, but I’m scared for her," said Jenn Soto. "I want her to be okay; I want her to be safe… I don’t want her to come back harmed. I just want her back – whatever that means, I just want her back."

Jenn Soto said sheriff’s deputies are using K9s and a piece of Maddie’s clothing to try to track her scent near Town Loop Boulevard.

According to Jenn Soto, Maddie had never run away before. She said the teen had forgotten her cell phone at home that morning, but that was normal.

As of Wednesday morning, a variety of search teams are out searching for Maddie.


MEDIA - MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13

 

[Guess Who]

No, that was Chris Sterns who stated that. And when Jennifer spoke to detectives, she said he was gone when she woke up.
I think it's most likely that Jennifer thought she'd been up that long before she called his father.

I just think of it as another example of Sterns' weird way of talking.

Well, I only read that first sentence or two of her written statement but I find it truthful as to what she believed. In other words, it doesn't matter to me that it wasn't true because I understand that it's what she wanted to believe was true.
She believed that Sterns had indeed dropped off Madeline near the church and in a much later interview, shows that she still believed that when she asked detectives about that video. Even then, she still believed it was Madeline in the church video.

As for black shorts, Sterns knew it was jeans, yet allowed Jennifer to report that it was shorts!
Now, as to why Jennifer believed that, I used to think it was because of what the church video showed but since Jennifer's said that Madeline was to have chose her clotheing in advance, I think black shorts may have been what Madeline told her.

I believe she WANTED to believe it so badly that she convinced herself in her mind that's what happened and kept convincing herself. I do understand your brain just not being able to accept that info.

 

[GrandmaBear]

No, that was Chris Sterns who stated that. And when Jennifer spoke to detectives, she said he was gone when she woke up.
I think it's most likely that Jennifer thought she'd been up that long before she called his father.

I just think of it as another example of Sterns' weird way of talking.

Well, I only read that first sentence or two of her written statement but I find it truthful as to what she believed. In other words, it doesn't matter to me that it wasn't true because I understand that it's what she wanted to believe was true.
She believed that Sterns had indeed dropped off Madeline near the church and in a much later interview, shows that she still believed that when she asked detectives about that video. Even then, she still believed it was Madeline in the church video.

As for black shorts, Sterns knew it was jeans, yet allowed Jennifer to report that it was shorts!
Now, as to why Jennifer believed that, I used to think it was because of what the church video showed but since Jennifer's said that Madeline was to have chose her clotheing in advance, I think black shorts may have been what Madeline told her.

Okay. That is explaining a bit too many things or having to on the way I think but I can follow that. 'too many explanations needed does it in for me, or too many conincidences, etc.

You have explained each one separately but did have to give a reason for each. I don't mean you, I mean that's where in a case it's like noooo.... NOt so believable any longer.

 

[GrandmaBear]

No, that was Chris Sterns who stated that. And when Jennifer spoke to detectives, she said he was gone when she woke up.
I think it's most likely that Jennifer thought she'd been up that long before she called his father.

I just think of it as another example of Sterns' weird way of talking.

Well, I only read that first sentence or two of her written statement but I find it truthful as to what she believed. In other words, it doesn't matter to me that it wasn't true because I understand that it's what she wanted to believe was true.
She believed that Sterns had indeed dropped off Madeline near the church and in a much later interview, shows that she still believed that when she asked detectives about that video. Even then, she still believed it was Madeline in the church video.

As for black shorts, Sterns knew it was jeans, yet allowed Jennifer to report that it was shorts!
Now, as to why Jennifer believed that, I used to think it was because of what the church video showed but since Jennifer's said that Madeline was to have chose her clotheing in advance, I think black shorts may have been what Madeline told her.

I thought I saw another post from you I was going to respond to but now can't find it. This day is not going without major snags. Go figure.

I am still open about her, honestly. I am just not at zero point with her any longer in that she should have known, maybe did know or have hints, and even more. There is no way anyone can convince I or most people about sending a 13 year old to bed with a man who is not her father (that would even be questionable) to a single bed no less and all the years it went on she saw no signs. I think in the redacted stuff in the one interview, she HAD seen or known stuff and that's why she made a rule about sleepovers... There is just too much for me and then the Woody Allen remark and more.

CAN I believe she wanted to be in denial and ignore it? Sure. Perhaps. But other mothers have been charged for a lot less than what she has shown.

I think this woman needs to get a clue, get her life together and get some serious help. Do you disagree that both were slackers and never adulted? SS and JS?

Love talking to you. Lol. You know that.

 

[Regina]

Okay. That is explaining a bit too many things or having to on the way I think but I can follow that. 'too many explanations needed does it in for me, or too many conincidences, etc.

You have explained each one separately but did have to give a reason for each. I don't mean you, I mean that's where in a case it's like noooo.... NOt so believable any longer.

Well, you've said you don't understand why I don't see things the way you do and I'm just trying to help you have some sort of an understanding.
Now, you take issue where I don't. I never took issue with the '25 minute thing' but when you pointed it out, I tried to help make sense of it. And btw, I still don't get why you find that to be incriminating against Jennifer. I'd understand it a wee bit more (lol) if were the other way around, that is, if he called her but that isn't what happened!
Anyway, what "coincidences" are you referring to?

 

[Regina]

I am still open about her, honestly. I am just not at zero point with her any longer in that she should have known, maybe did know or have hints, and even more. There is no way anyone can convince I or most people about sending a 13 year old to bed with a man who is not her father (that would even be questionable) to a single bed no less and all the years it went on she saw no signs. I think in the redacted stuff in the one interview, she HAD seen or known stuff and that's why she made a rule about sleepovers... There is just too much for me and then the Woody Allen remark and more.

You know, I finally get to a point where all I'm interesting doing is to help to keep the facts straight (and sometimes, I lose interest in even that, lol!) and this might be it.
Since it apparently matters, my recall of the bed in room #4 is it was at least a full size and possibly queen.

 

[GrandmaBear]

You know, I finally get to a point where all I'm interesting doing is to help to keep the facts straight (and sometimes, I lose interest in even that, lol!) and this might be it.
Since it apparently matters, my recall of the bed in room #4 is it was at least a full size and possibly queen.

You know, I have no problem admitting if one has watched most, there seems to be some varying facts on that. I'm not sure what difference it makes, a 13 year old was still sent off to bed with a man not her father, and I'd have a problem with it even if it was her father.

However, I believe the pictures show the facts of the bed size. I'm oversaturated and of course other things as we all have in life but I believe the pictures show if I recall a small bed.

Either way, mom sent Maddie to bed with him, I don't think that's disputed, even by mom.

So in keeping facts straight, there are facts like those as well and not all align well for mom.

Hey, regardless. will be an interesting discussion no matter what as we actually do talk of it.

Mom at the very least is well aware of what she looks like and how she fell down on her job. And that's at minimum. At least imo and that of many.

I do agree though, there are facts to keep straight and some of them do not align with mom's innocence and show her changing stories and excuses.

As far as the bed, it is neither here nor there, she sent her 13 year old off with an adult male to spend the night together. More room in the bed or less with what had already been going on for years, what difference does that make?

Just saying...

 

[GrandmaBear]

I don't think I need to add it but to complete the point, king sized or single, when alone he was having sexual acts with her and/or having her perform them or perpetrating them on her, whether a small bed or big bed, what difference does that make with what had been going on ever since almost he entered the picture??

Seriously. Just asking how it even matters?

Jenn needed a rule about sleepovers with them for some reason and such should not even be a question. She had one it would appear for a reason, that's not even a QUESTION anyone should ask or have to wonder or put a rule up for. And then she broke it, if indeed there ever was one.

There's a ton here just in interviews and not in speculation, just from her own statements.

Let's say she was the most clueless woman on earth, she still failed in her duty. And most mom's would be guilting selves to no end.

JMO of course and as you know, enjoy our discussions.

Let's keep all facts straight and statements she has made, etc. too, not just on one side of the coin. if I had the time I used to have, I would her own up all against each other on the same questions in various interviews. And the very differing answers.

Gotta really get moving. Pushing it big time. However, as always, nice that someone likes to actually debate and discuss.

Have a beautiful day!

 

[Regina]

However, I believe the pictures show the facts of the bed size. I'm oversaturated and of course other things as we all have in life but I believe the pictures show if I recall

The bed in #4 was not a single size.
One of the roommates had a son, could it have been his bed?

 

[Regina]

I don't think I need to add it but to complete the point, king sized or single, when alone he was having sexual acts with her and/or having her perform them or perpetrating them on her, whether a small bed or big bed, what difference does that make with what had been going on ever since almost he entered the picture??

Seriously. Just asking how it even matters?

It doesn't matter to me, it's that you've said that now at least twice and I don't believe it's accurate.

 

[Regina]

I've just began reading records from the Orange Co. Sheriff Office.
Pages 4 and 5 are Sterns and Jennifer's written statements.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The bed in #4 was not a single size.
One of the roommates had a son, could it have been his bed?

It doesn't matter to me, it's that you've said that now at least twice and I don't believe it's accurate.

Okay. Doesn't matter to me either as I've said because either way she was sent to one bed with SS. I don't know re the roommates son's bed, doubt it was but then not worth the time.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I've just began reading records from the Orange Co. Sheriff Office.
Pages 4 and 5 are Sterns and Jennifer's written statements.

One thing interesting to me in the Orange Co. police reports, etc. is that most of what they collected that they say was in contact with MS when being SA'ed came from downstairs and from either the bedroom of JS or the makeshift bedroom of MS. Some was taken from #4 but says majority was from downstairs...

I'll have to take a look at her written statement and more later. I watched something on this last night as far as what I said in the first paragraph here and it simply fit as you also are talking about Orange Co. also so mentioned it before I forgot.

I'd also comment that apparently SS was SA'ing MS all over the home or no one every washed anything or things just ended up downstairs, and all over. No one else was ever home or present?

Sounds like it happened in every room that JS controlled"owned" for the three of them (that were not the roommates for instance). Her bedroom, Maddie's and #4 with majority again downstairs.

Taken in a fair amount this past few days on this case again. You too, sounds like.

I'm not late but I ended up up this morning with far from the amount of time I generally like to have before heading to work so having to amp up how fast I get a move on.

Otherwise, I'd take a look at her written statement and share a bit more. Ended up with quite a show on Daybell last night and went to bed way too late. Go figure lol.

Have a good one.

 

[Regina]

Okay. Doesn't matter to me either as I've said because either way she was sent to one bed with SS. I don't know re the roommates son's bed, doubt it was but then not worth the time.

Well I forgot about Madeline's, wasn't that a twin? Maybe that's the one you're thinking of.

 

[Regina]

One thing interesting to me in the Orange Co. police reports, etc. is that most of what they collected that they say was in contact with MS when being SA'ed came from downstairs and from either the bedroom of JS or the makeshift bedroom of MS. Some was taken from #4 but says majority was from downstairs...

I'll link to the batch of Kissimmee PD reports I've read so far.
The only items of any interest to me are the one Croc and black shorts.
Collected items begin on page 41.

 

[Regina]

I'll have to take a look at her written statement and more later. I watched something on this last night as far as what I said in the first paragraph here and it simply fit as you also are talking about Orange Co. also so mentioned it before I forgot.

Her statment that she didn't know when they departed supports what she told detectives about going right back to sleep after Sterns had woke her up re the dog- an incident that Sterns never mentioned and contradicts his claim that he'd periodically checked-in with her as they readied for school.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well I forgot about Madeline's, wasn't that a twin? Maybe that's the one you're thinking of.

Well it was said it was a single in room 4 but again I'd say it honestly doesn't matter, it could be right or wrong. There's so much stuff in this that I wouldn't even know any longer where to go back and find the pics even, at what point, in what show etc. I mean some of the shows of the document guy (drawing a blank right now on his show name, something re docs, but well known) were like six hours long. The only real point would be, if so, that JS knew she was sending two full grown (in size) people to sleep in a single bed together, not even a double. But with SA and a predator, what's the difference... It would only suggest she knew there wasn't even room for lack of close physical contact and proximity.

It just defies comprehension already to most parents you'd send your kid off with him to bed like this to begin with and the single bed, if so, just makes it even more incomprehensible. That's really the only point I'd say, in relation to how she had to know how absolutely insane it is to do that for lack of a better word.

The one in Maddie's room may have been a single. I have to say I am not as up on the pics, there are several shows on just the pics but it's been awhile since I watched one. At the time, all docs had not been dumped or gone through either as I recall it to see what is said in reports and such as to what was what and correlate such.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'll link to the batch of Kissimmee PD reports I've read so far.
The only items of any interest to me are the one Croc and black shorts.
Collected items begin on page 41.

Boy I hope I get a chance to review.

I can see why with the Croc and shorts.

If there truly were more articles in the bedroom of JS and the makeshift one of MS that the know were in contact during the SA of MS, I find that of significance. Also, he was not always in bedroom 4 over all these years yet was SAing her for years on end. Where was JS? Always asleep, zonked totally? Roommates and more? Did he do this even in the same bed they all shared? I mean it really tests the limits and defies odds no one ever would have noticed. And he filmed, etc. Or was room 4 always accessible to their "little family" since the time MS was little... That goes against her claimed carefulness though of MS ever being alone with him for the first years...

I don't know. What I do know is this one is not like bad ones where every night say the mom is at work on a night shift and stepdad is home with the kid/s alone. Again there are roommates. JS never held a job for long if at all the way it sounds and would have been home. This isn't a single family household. And before they lived here they were in some apartment weren't they nearer to his folks' area? Not in the very same town but near...

I am well aware lol you don't hold the same questions but I am just kind of talking out loud to work through where I will land here re JS. For me, there are just too many things to give her a pass and come to a solid conclusion one way or the other and it leans these days not in her favor but my meter still moves up and down depending on... Mostly not in her favor though most often.

I can't even find much good to say about her as a mother overall. Seems like she passed her daughter off a lot. She definitely is all about self, other than when she is about SS.

Of course I don't expect you to agree, we know that we don't lol, but we do such with no problems, or there'd be no discussion at all.

I need time to find and read actual docs too, not sure that will happen soon. The part about most things being downstairs as to contact with MS when being SAed comes from Orange County.

I used to do all that but sadly with lack of time in life these days, I have to mostly rely on shows that bring it all together and have reviewed such things or I wouldn't keep up in cases like this where there are (versus many sealed, little shared) open records and doc dumps and so on.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Her statment that she didn't know when they departed supports what she told detectives about going right back to sleep after Sterns had woke her up re the dog- an incident that Sterns never mentioned and contradicts his claim that he'd periodically checked-in with her as they readied for school.

I don't think I was talking of that re Orange Co. but more the things collected.

However, yeah, there are a couple of possibilities there, that he came back to let the dog out and more, it almost coincides with the time he was seen on camera at the complex.

She has though, to her detriment, at minimum a very bad habit of giving times when she doesn't know the actual times. At minimum that's what she does, and that's if it is not intentional. Hard for me to understand when talking to investigators and an investigation is going on re your daughter. She is not stupid. Any adult mostly imo would know better than to do that, you want to give as accurate of info as you can. There's an awful lot of things to "buy" with her... Such is when my scale starts to tip. Way too many.

And then we could add all the "we" stuff...

She was misleading as all get out at minimum.

Even when she said in the one interview when I think she knew it was caught out, I didn't take her to school, my partner did... Even that, now he was her partner again and they weren't broken up as she also said many a time....

It's whatever works for her at the moment or to make it look best, or is that what she is doing? It sure isn't about MS and I think that's a hard one to accept too from a mother.

Just giving my honest thoughts. A bit later start time today, so had a little time.

Hope all is well with you. I'm having trouble remembering that I am quitting the "like" thing on all posts. Or any. LOL. Trying though. If you're around this morn and on here, I may pop back in but if not, I hope you have a great day! I've got two back to back shifts to go before a day off.

 

[Regina]

Well it was said it was a single in room 4 but again I'd say it honestly doesn't matter, it could be right or wrong.

I've only read the one batch of Kissimmee PD reports consisting of 80 pages. There'a another batch from Kissimmee that's 52 pages that I haven't read.
In the Orange Co Sheriff Office batch- 896 pages- I've only read the written statements of Sterns and Jennifer, which are pages 4 and 5.
Anyway, I haven't come across anything re bed sizes, except Jennifer saying her's was a king, which, yeah, looks like a king to me. Lol!

It just defies comprehension already to most parents you'd send your kid off with him to bed like this to begin with and the single bed, if so, just makes it even more incomprehensible. That's really the only point I'd say, in relation to how she had to know how absolutely insane it is to do that for lack of a better word.

Jennifer's comprehension was that Sterns "loved and cared for Madeline like (she) did". (Her exact words.)
And she didn't hide the fact that she'd sent them to sleep upstairs, to the contrary, she told detectives that's how it went and did so in a very casual, matter of fact kind of way.
So I don't know what that tells you but it tells me that- bottomline-she trusted him.

 

[Regina]

I can see why with the Croc and shorts.

If there truly were more articles in the bedroom of JS and the makeshift one of MS that the know were in contact during the SA of MS, I find that of significance.

I need to correct my post #744 that info re collection of items from the apartment begins on page 39. (blk shorts pg 39; Croc pg 40)
Most were from Madeline's "bedroom area of the living room", followed by bdrm. #4.

You know, I'm still not positive where the Croc was found and I need to be sure so I can better theorize why as it wasn't discarded along with it's mate.
Re the black shorts, it's very interesting that they were collected from Madeline's room. Btw, I don't recall seeing a photo of the black shorts, do you?