FL MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13 *Found Deceased*

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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home​

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

Madeline ‘Maddie’ Soto was last seen on Monday, one day after she and her family celebrated her 13th birthday. Maddie’s mother, Jenn Soto, said surveillance video shows Maddie hanging out in a church parking lot on February 26 after being dropped off for school, but she never made it inside.

"I’m trying to hope for the best, but I’m scared for her," said Jenn Soto. "I want her to be okay; I want her to be safe… I don’t want her to come back harmed. I just want her back – whatever that means, I just want her back."

Jenn Soto said sheriff’s deputies are using K9s and a piece of Maddie’s clothing to try to track her scent near Town Loop Boulevard.

According to Jenn Soto, Maddie had never run away before. She said the teen had forgotten her cell phone at home that morning, but that was normal.

As of Wednesday morning, a variety of search teams are out searching for Maddie.


MEDIA - MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13
 
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When do you think she was killed? I am somewhat undecided because the time frame and events are not clear and I don't think we have all of it.
I do think he may be rid the backpack and laptop while Maddie was waking up or getting ready for school and mom sleeping or some such BUT wouldn't Maddie have a fit when she had to leave for school and have either and get in trouble at school for not having what she needed?
Still odd though...
I mean a person could get further out there on the thought--he returned as he realized he needed a shovel, needed her hone, to report to mom, to get some cash or a bank card...
I think she was dead before he discarded her belongings and my thoughts about his return to the apartment are that he didn't know where and/or have time to hide the body, and/or so that the mother would think he'd indeed dropped her off.
 
I think she was dead before he discarded her belongings and my thoughts about his return to the apartment are that he didn't know where and/or have time to hide the body, and/or so that the mother would think he'd indeed dropped her off.
I'm pretty sure she was already gone by then too.
 
I think she was dead before he discarded her belongings and my thoughts about his return to the apartment are that he didn't know where and/or have time to hide the body, and/or so that the mother would think he'd indeed dropped her off.
That makes sense and I can see that as one possibility for sure.

So you lean towards he killed her in the apt when mom was gone or even asleep? Then though he did have to carry a dead body out which I have thought about and I can't quite see but perhaps. These are not typical "apartments" but more like town homes.

It is long but I did finish watching it last night and I highly recommend to all watching the Behavior guys on this one. They don't often or always opine but they brought up a ton of things to notice. I tried not to let it influence me but it did. One huge thing is the same language of both bf and mom.... There are four guys and with some serious types of backgrounds. They even don't always agree. Also mentioned was FEAR. Seen in her. It was long but I found not a moment of it dull.

I have tried and am trying to give her the benefit of the doubt but I did and still do feel after the fact at least she knew something or was fed something... I still do. At minimum.

They have a lot about her being a longer interview but also cover him not that I think a ONE of us don't see him as the biggest fake thing we have ever seen in any case. Seriously. They said the same. In EVERYTHING they have ever covered he like takes the cake on fake. I felt that way before watching it and think most do. If he were auditioning in Hollywood, I if a producer would laugh him out of the place and tell him to go drive semi or work at Walmart. Such FAKE bullsh*t. The eyes, the drama, the eyebrows, the sniffles and fake tears.

They also said something though about him that was REALLY interesting, especially coming from them if you're watched them ever. And it plays into he studied and he knew the body language to not do and what TO do. I am not going to share it all but there's more. WELL worth watching imo.

There were a LOT of things. And both used same wording with somethings that aren't typical words/phrasing and so on. Neither was concerned about child first... Both body language AND answers are dissected.

Anyhow, I don't know yet if I think she was killed in the home or in the car because of the muddled timeline and info and lack of more. If we knew more or even a bit more of what I am sure LE knows, I'd have a more set opinion on that. I GUESS she could have been killed and moved to the car before mom got home even and mom never really did see her in the morning...Or even taken to the car and killed and left... Or after leaving for school that day...

I think it was on Gray Hughes, not sure, another channel I just found recently may have had it, they did the Google thing of the ones and address's but could not "get in" to the gated community to see more detail either from front or back street. Initially I kept thinking of the place as apartments but they are more like town homes. I keep meaning to check but each could have its OWN attached garage and that changes everything if so and the ability to take her out of the residence and so on... Of course though one would think it would be mom's car in the garage and not his... If anyone knows more about this or you do, I'd be interested to know.

Quite a few out there think he must have left with her and THEN killed her based on this hard to follow timeline and stuff we have from LE... and then returned to complex with her...

There is so much we don't know. Cause of death for one would also maybe help in maybe he counted on anyone seeing her in is vehicle would believe her to be asleep...

I know this much, he is nasty, he is evil and he may well be the most obvious fakest individual and liar I have ever witnessed with no doubt from the FIRST listen and watch of him.

I'm not okay with mom either. I am not throwing her under the bus nor do I necessarily think she was involved in her death but she knows sometihing and may have been involved after or at least believed and touted his story...

With him I am at as highest of a percentage I can about go, with her, I don't have one yet but she is not at zero (no involvement or knowledge or even doubt)...
 
Go to 1:56, maybe a few seconds pats, in the Behavior Panel's video to hear the conclusions of each on both mom and bf.
 
I am 2/3 through and I've not seen any of this before. Classmates, then grandma so far...Unless it is an interpretation problem, sounds like Maddie only lived there with mom for a few days. And don't have this clear either but mom was really tired so asked bf to take her home or some such and something about the bday party or it being changed, no idea. Still in the midst of.

 
So Plunder says she worked night before and woke up very tired and asked bf to take her home. This is confusing but may be a language issue meaning she asked bf to take Maddie to school. This would imply he lived there or was there rather than picked her up....?

Also at the beginning of this video, even though Disney has denied it, there are pictures of him working at Epcot in recent times. I know many have speculated maybe he worked for a company contracted or some such so Disney could plausibly deny he worked for them.

Has classmates as well talking...
 
I'm sure it isn't much different than many who do the profiles and SM and FB thing.

I only hear those things from those that bring it all. And one thing I will say for Plunder (not my first go to) is she gets and pays for docs and does a TON of FOIA requests.
 


Haven't watched it all yet but right off the bat news to me is Florida passed a law last year that capital sexual assault is punishabel by death! Way to go FLORIDA! Are we allowed to talk of such? Or prohibited? Then the guest, Fil Waters Houston TX homicide detective says he hopes TX does the same thing and OK and other states that still have the DP. I DO TOO!

Wow not everything is going to the stupid side, why is it we never hear of this kind of thing? Heck they don't tell us anything with other sh*t either like defendants not having to appear in court cuz they rule after all.
 
Go to 1:56, maybe a few seconds pats, in the Behavior Panel's video to hear the conclusions of each on both mom and bf.
I think three out of those four need to be evaluated, lol!
Seriously, the one on the bottom right is the only one who appears to me is worth listening to. (I have come across one other such expert I think is worth listening to and that's Dr. G.)
 
This case is, even though I don't spend all time on it, I don't have any!, sticking with me and getting to me. I wake up thinking of it in the middle of the night and in the morning and find myself thinking of it at work.

I haven't went there yet and have tried not to other than thinking she knew something but my opinion of mom is forming. Having a day off and time to watch the Behavior Panel and their conclusions was one part and something else I watched which at the moment fails me as to what it was.

With all the confusion and varying stories on whether he was living there or not, Plunder's videos seem to clear that. Grandma said mom woke up tired and asked him to take her to school. Yet LE filing said he "picked' her up for school.

It "feels" not finished... There's more here and that more I think is what mom knew or did... Of course he isn't charged with her murder yet but that's not it as I think that's a foregone conclusion and will come.
 
I think three out of those four need to be evaluated, lol!
Seriously, the one on the bottom right is the only one who appears to me is worth listening to. (I have come across one other such expert I think is worth listening to and that's Dr. G.)
I listen to Dr. G. Did you just watch the conclusion or the whole thing?

I have to laugh about as the one on the bottom right is the one who had some things I thought were a little bit of failure to understand how things work here and in cases. He said for instance why did bf not watch the church video, that should have been a big deal to him, etc. and I couldn't help but think who said he had that opportunity or could watch it if he even insisted or requested? Don't get me wrong, I doubt he thought of it or cared (Stephan) but there's a very good chance he had no such opportunity and was a suspect from the start and the "parents" were at HOME probably under "suggestion" if not control of LE, not searching, or at the church, etc. nor would he have access nor necessarily a right to watch any such thing.

The one on bottom left is probably the one I find most worthwhile in his thoughts but they all have their different backgrounds, serious legit ones, but all different. I've watched them on various things and people so have opinions and they vary some in different shows but anyhow... I watch Dr. G too.

What I think I found more interesting is things they noted and I haven't had time to, maybe others have or SM forums have dissected but I havent, for one the common wording by bf and mom, and a few other things... That takes watching the full show.
 
Can't recall if I commented on it but I know I meant to or may have but that "accidentally" released photo of this child dead and THEN also an employee with a selfie with perp are two very bad looks already for this department. A quick arrest and finding Maddie deserves kudos but what is this other sh*t? They had better tighten up and get these lapses or intentional things under control, or their people...

Showing her dead body is a lawsuit waiting to happen imo. I'm sure her family and extended family has likely not even been shown such and yet it hits the public/internet.
 
I listen to Dr. G. Did you just watch the conclusion or the whole thing?

I have to laugh about as the one on the bottom right is the one who had some things I thought were a little bit of failure to understand how things work here and in cases. He said for instance why did bf not watch the church video, that should have been a big deal to him, etc. and I couldn't help but think who said he had that opportunity or could watch it if he even insisted or requested? Don't get me wrong, I doubt he thought of it or cared (Stephan) but there's a very good chance he had no such opportunity and was a suspect from the start and the "parents" were at HOME probably under "suggestion" if not control of LE, not searching, or at the church, etc. nor would he have access nor necessarily a right to watch any such thing.

The one on bottom left is probably the one I find most worthwhile in his thoughts but they all have their different backgrounds, serious legit ones, but all different. I've watched them on various things and people so have opinions and they vary some in different shows but anyhow... I watch Dr. G too.

What I think I found more interesting is things they noted and I haven't had time to, maybe others have or SM forums have dissected but I havent, for one the common wording by bf and mom, and a few other things... That takes watching the full show.
I watched just the conclusion.
I don't read much into the mother's body language. To me, she came across as confused as to what actually happened and concerned about her daughter's safety. I think she was obviously more anxious in the second interview.
 
I watched just the conclusion.
I don't read much into the mother's body language. To me, she came across as confused as to what actually happened and concerned about her daughter's safety. I think she was obviously more anxious in the second interview.
Yeah I haven't jumped on her as yet. Many out there have and beyond I gather. it was a long show but they did point out some interesting things. One of the most significant to me is the similar langauge of the two and we are not talking everyday common language but things like conclusion, conclusory or some such and others.

I do FEEL she at minimum was worried he did something or suspected it. At minimum, that's where I am at now. And wanted to believe him maybe AND believe she was alive. They kind of varied on that as well, whether part of, knew something or suspected something and so on. Kind of where I'm at on my own (not because of them). Of course a suspicion could also come from how LE was talking to him or her catching him in some lie, who knows...

What IS really starting to bother me is how long this relationship was or this man was around Maddie and how mom could not know... There are different accounts of length of relationship but now I've heard six to eight years, the other day four seemed solid and yet at least one of his friends made it sound like they were hardly together six months of like a two year relationship! This stuff is all over the place... Of course the friend's thoughts came from Stephan's claims and men such as him aren't honest no doubt.

They did also have some good points about mom and her fear, not fear for the daughter but for self... I don't know. Such can't convict, such analysis is a tool at best.

Has Dr. G done one?

I don't think anyone has any doubt about how fake his act was, expert or one of us do we? One of the fakest I have ever seen and they said the same and they've seen many as have we.
 
If her seeing her a 8 a.m. is a lie, and she was dead earlier though, that will change my opinion a ton.

The selective stuff LE has put out makes the timeline and where and when she was killed very difficult to figure... And the varying stories of whether he lived there or stayed there or not...
 
I don't read much into the mother's body language. To me, she came across as confused as to what actually happened and concerned about her daughter's safety. I think she was obviously more anxious in the second interview.
So I listened just a bit to someone on break on this today and the guy said the cops told us that Maddie was killed earlier than mom said she saw her getting dressed. We were NEVER told that were we by LE?? I sure don't recall that. Unless they've said something since and I missed it but pretty sure not.

I'm not 100 percent anything on mom yet but there sure are some assumptions being made and I'm thinking this remark is trying to make something fact that was never told the public was a fact?

I watched the grandma at some point in the last couple of days too and she said mom woke up tired and asked him to take her to school. Of course she could only get that from one of them I'd imagine. If true, that's another thing that makes it sound like he was staying there and that mom was home. Some out there have said she worked overnights which doesn't sound like the case if she "woke" up tired. Maybe til 2 a.m. or some such... There's such a mish mash of supposed facts stemming from gossip and SM, it's hard to know. Of course it also begs the question of where he was home with her all night while mom worked.

There's absolutely no proof to my knowledge that her saying she saw her getting dressed is a lie as first news and then almost everyone is saying. It may well be but they were TWO different questions.

I guess my hang up is there just isn't anything proven and she could well be grieving mother. We saw her BEFORE it was known Maddie was dead (unless of course she knew but that isn't known either). I'm not going to come down on a grieving mother who lost a child without knowing some facts. Although I find it very difficult to believe she picked up on nothing considering the length of time this was going on...Years it seems.

Also there does seem to be some proof now he did work at Disney and even recently so Disney's statement must be he was or is employed through someone else there. Not that that really matters.

This was has gotten to me big time. I just can't get over one day she is a new 13 year old with her life ahead and then he DOES this as well as was doing what he had been to her. Another possibility is she told him that night or morning she wanted him to stop now, that she was 13 and wanted to see boys her own age. I can't help but feel the recent birthday plays in...

In the bit I listened to the guy also went on about the Gofundme which I agree with actually and covered that she was laid to rest a funeral home donated all services for her (so GFM wasn't needed for that)...

He said it is RUMORED mom has lawyered up.

Anyow did LE say she was killed earlier than mom would have ALLEGEDLY seen her getting dressed? I've heard no such thing.

A heck of a lot being put out as fact and it's all rumors almost. I don't mean speculation, I mean saying things like this without foundation or real basis.

Also read a fair number of comments and see that MANY think mom actually killed her...

Kind of talking out loud to self now so forgive me but one thing that still bothers me is her not attending her own family''s birthday party for her. She was home that night to talk to Maddie about her gifts though so that was likely before average bed time on a school night for a newly 13 year old... Most claim she worked the night but not sure where they even get that. Maybe she worked a noon to 9? Not sure why youd' be OVERLY draggging then next morning to ask him to take her to school. Was it a 3 to 12, if so, then why couldn't the party be at 12 or 1 and her attend for awhile and her family work around it some. You know we know nothing she could have went out after work for all we know. BUT she talked to Maddie that night allegedly AT HOME. And SAW her at like 8 the next morning allegedly.

The reporters should have asked her if it was typical for him to take her to school and why she didn't. Normal enough not scary question.. This is BEFORE anyone was arrrested or she had been found... And what shift she worked and some time frame... Oh well, they dind't so that's that.

IF she is lawyered up as rumored, LE isn't going to be getting any more out of her about the history here of how often her daughter was alone with him for how many years and more UNLESS a deal gets worked on and who knows, bit early to assume that...

NEWS and the rush of accusations and news claiming this was a LIE (seeing her at 8) and all the people out there going bonkers and thinking she killed her and more assured almost most certainly her lawyering up with NO further chances for LE to talk to her one on one.

Also somewhere I heard something which made it sound like Maddie at least had only lived in this home for a few days, no idea if mom too... Meant to follow up on it and listen again but don't recall where I heard it. It seems to me it wasn't strangers but maybe grandma or something... I don't know, and I speculate, but what I see out there is people purporting things to be fact that are not We have FEW facts, no cause of death, no timeline or place of murder, no work schedule of mom and a whole lot of other things that are missing. They knew somehow she was dead in that car and not just sleeping and I'd like to know how. I believe this was a full burial and not just a service and so her body was returned to family fairly quickly IF that's the case... Not that I don't know unfortunately they can largely take all they need for further findings and do that in many a case... Still seems quick considering what happened here but they probably have what they need and it also makes me think cause of death was obvious...?

I'm just going here and there now so I'll stop.

One last thing I will say is mom better darned well have a timeline, work hours and whereabouts until we know a time of death here and location because COPS may know he killed her but all we know is he SAed her in life, was driving her allegedly dead body around that day, dumped her school things and disposed of her. All of that COULD be helping mom or covering for mom.

But then maybe mom from the start helped LE, we don't know, and told them what she knew and they may well have told her to stick with his story until he was arrested... Very hard to know.

Long work day just home and so a sit down long post to get thoughts somewhat straight...

Anyhow if you or anyone knows they SAID (LE) she died earlier than 8, let me know. If not, that is one channel I won't watch again. Wasn't one I knew of anyhow or watched more than maybe once.
 
There is a part 2 now with the one friend of Stephan's on Gray Hughes. I don't watch him much but these interviews are worthwhile. And not three hours or more long like most of his stuff. Nor with an prelude doing the money thing which he donates a bit part of, don't get me wrong, not knocking it, I just don't do that time and stuff.

Anywhoooo, he refers to the sex life of Jen and Stephan, not graphically, but let's just say this is interesting (and worse) when one considers this case... I haven't finished it by a long shot, just started, but also he says when he was at their place, to was not THEIR condo, her family lived there and all they had was a room in it, etc. and the common area belonged to the family and so on... HER family.

Some of the friends Gray has had on were high school friends who knew him for some years after high school and so on and either broke off over something or still knew him and talked via FB or whatever, and some ARE more recent nowadays friends. This is at least firsthand about him and not hearsay from one person to another or another or like a lot of what is going on out there or assumption put out as fact. All are interesting to listen to.

Him and the mom per Stephan had quite the sex life let's put it that way, again no details are given, but he figured that's why they were together as they both were a bit whatever that way... He also speculates about what Maddie would see, or even be around for... I have only started watching but this isn't some crazy person. He also says Stephan is totally on pot in that interview, seen him that way and his eyes hundreds of time and so on.

Anyhow, haven't watched all of it but all these friends are worth listening to, there's been a few over a a couple of weeks.
 

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