FL MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13 *Found Deceased*

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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.
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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home​

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

Madeline ‘Maddie’ Soto was last seen on Monday, one day after she and her family celebrated her 13th birthday. Maddie’s mother, Jenn Soto, said surveillance video shows Maddie hanging out in a church parking lot on February 26 after being dropped off for school, but she never made it inside.

"I’m trying to hope for the best, but I’m scared for her," said Jenn Soto. "I want her to be okay; I want her to be safe… I don’t want her to come back harmed. I just want her back – whatever that means, I just want her back."

Jenn Soto said sheriff’s deputies are using K9s and a piece of Maddie’s clothing to try to track her scent near Town Loop Boulevard.

According to Jenn Soto, Maddie had never run away before. She said the teen had forgotten her cell phone at home that morning, but that was normal.

As of Wednesday morning, a variety of search teams are out searching for Maddie.


MEDIA - MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13
 
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Eight counts of sexual battery under 12. Five counts on 12 to 18 years old.

Seven lewed and lascivious molestation.
40 counts of images and possession of child porn I think he said. Couldn't keep up.
 
Smh. This is all from before her murder of course. It definitely would have to make mom an entirely clueless creature to think she never picked up on anything.

I hadn't went here but was this for him, was he selling such or even worse...
 
GrandmaBear said:
A good watch and sane.

What I like about this show is they are always experts and never just one guest and a variety BUT they aren't paid talking heads brought on to be cut off in a minute or less and give opposing views or sensationalize for some "news" program. Not a one of them is jumping to conclusions like many yet their opinions do differ and every single one has respect for the opinions of the others and doesn't interrupt. Dr. G is on who isn't seeing any reason to suspect her mom yet much at all. One woman does think she might be helping cover the bf but in no way feels there is enough info yet and certainly not enough to believe her involved. The other has a lot of interesting things to say in what she saw counseling CSA survivors and talking to families AND even the perps for many years. The one woman is a jury consultant and also a body language expert and live in Orlando where this happened. They do dissect the things said in the interviews and more.
It's worthwhile with really good points.

I see a lot of odd things so do they, so does Dr. G but I also see there isn't a single reason thus far to throw mom under the bus. I don't like a LOT and I do judge a LOT like how could you miss this for years and so on. I DO THINK she may have agreed to parrot his story even, I don't know.

In the show also is the talk of why a mother wouldn't attend her daughter's 13th birthday and even expressed understanding of how someone needs to work and put food on the table but how you can change a shift or change the time and so on... That one bothers me too.
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If I watch it, it's only because Dr. G's a guest.
I have just a couple of comments: 1) I'm not surprised such abuse can be missed by a mother, regardless of however long it's occurred.
And 2) I'm not bothered by the mother having worked rather than attend the party.
 
So I am only now getting time to listen to someone on the pages filed on new charges and more.

First off, the firsts charge is in June of 2019 when when she would have been EIGHT. Prettty accepted out there is info that he and her mother met in 2018 and if it was for instance in January, she could have been as young as SIX or SEVEN if he started this stuff in the first year!

I will say it is a lot harder to believe the mother could have missed this much and for so many years and from such an age.

What a horrible life this little girl was stuck in for what seems to have been years on end. This case was already bothering me more out of proportion to some and I still can't figure why, they are ALL horrible but now it bothers me even worse, I already coudln't get it off my mind.
 
Regina said:
If I watch it, it's only because Dr. G's a guest.
I have just a couple of comments: 1) I'm not surprised such abuse can be missed by a mother, regardless of however long it's occurred.
And 2) I'm not bothered by the mother having worked rather than attend the party.
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Well clearly I posted that and they were on the show before a short time later this morning I found out about these 60 new charges.

I agree with you that abuse CAN be missed by a mother and also agree with their could be an innocuous reason for mom not attending her party as well BUT both could also not be the case and be the opposite. Could be either.

It also could be even worse than we know on the part of him or both even beyond these new charges.

I will say it is a LOT harder to believe she had her hand stuck in the sand that hard for that many years and never noticed a thing than it was a day ago.

But I haven't changed my undecided stance on the mother--it isn't like they'e charged her with anything yet today either.. However my needle of forming an opinion is shaking and moving slightly. Not a lot as there are still no facts but the length of this bothers me.

It is also said she and this man were broken up many times through the years, did her daughter never tell her when they were on the outs... Maybe not, hard to say.

I haven't formed a set opinion, I'm curious is yours set or is it only where you are at for now since we have no proof against the mother? Are you willing to change it should that come I'd think? And it very well could come.... as easily as not...
 
Regina said:
I'm sure there's some lame-assed excuse as to why he left early but it seems to me that he wouldn't have left early if not to cover-up from the mother whatever it was he did to Madeline.
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Maybe. However, it could have been for any reason. Maybe he was out of Adderall or vape juice and wanted to get going. Maybe he needed to shut her up and ensure she never got anywhere near school when time for school. Perhaps she threatened to tell a teacher or a friend now that she was 13. Perhaps he had her convinced they were running away together and needed to ditch her stuff and leave before mom realized and act as if leaving for school. Could be anything and not saying those things are it, just that could be anything. Didn't I hear he claimed he stopped for vape juice after dropping her off but the place wasn't open yet... Doesn't mean it's true of course. We know too little all the way around still.

However, we know plenty about what he did to this girl. Little doubt about that.

I'd still like to know more about the home and who lived there if anyone else... It's a four bedroom condo allegedly and it doesn't seem they'd have the kind of money to pay for such in a gated community or own such for sure... Condos are owned generally, unless a condo owner subletted but even then, I don't see them having the ability to rent such. I guess we don't know if she received low or sizable child support from Maddie's dad, heck we don't even know if they had her all of the time. Rumors are rife as to various things which is a problem and only adds more confusion. One out of the ten on each issue is likely true but which ones...

Just kind of talking now more than responding. He was doing this to her for YEARS without ever killing her and now it seems even MORE likely he killed her because of SOMETHING that changed or he couldn't have happen...

Think on this scenario, they left early so he could be alone with her and we know his reasons for alone time with her. She refused and put her foot down, said she was 13 and it had to stop. Said it prior to that morning. Said she was going to tell. This was the first he could do something like quiet her for good since the party and all and get her out of the home and away from people...

I don't know. I know we need to wait for more info.

Makes me sick what this girl was living though with at minimum a clueless mother with her head in the sand trusting a man that she'd been in a seriously up and down relationship with since it sounds like almost day one.
 
I never went here and didn't want to and never jump to such but in listening to something right now, I have to say it seems a very logical question as to what was he doing with these images and videos? If they were for self, he wouldn't need ten of each one and videos and hundreds and more...

I also almost mentioned this earlier before the charges but decided to leave it and not mention it but on a video of Gray's I watched I think last night? Not his biggest fan but I don't think he is a major liar or would get himself in trouble and he said Stephan's number was in something or somewhere and he had a friend who is a good digger take it and see what he could find and on the night or wee hours I believe before Maddie went missing, that number was associated with someone being on a site that he didn't give a lot of detail on but I'd say was some pedo site or some such. I'd have to watch it again. JUST that night or morn... Again this was BEFORE these charges came out today. Putting both things together... It sounded almost like the Dropbox thing, etc. in Delphi where sickos share things, photos and so on...

One of his friends always wondered where he got his money as he was never working. I figured parents but...

Again I don't jump ever to these kinds of things but was he selling this sh*t. They've hardly hit the tip of the iceberg here imo.

I won't even comment on what some think with the whole Orlando and Disney think out there BUT they both worked at or claimed to at Disney...

Well I've been caught up quickly on the site after work today, not a lot to catch up with or discussion, just came back to share that as I'm watching something that it would SEEM he didn't need this amount of voluminous stuff only for his own pleasure when alone... He also was known to put a camera on a friend's girlfriend when they lived together with him, the friend shared that story...

Verdict in Bigsby was such awesome news, that alone made it a big day in justice and crime for discussion. And this news on this one, SAD. Some I'd call usual kinds of things in Delphi.
 
Also forgot to mention they've confirmed for anyone who hasn't seen it, as suspected, that rooms and such in the home matched those depicted in these old photos and videos. Rooms that were photoed and such when Madeline disappeared. In the intiial first charges and now more of same. Not sure all, but enough.

I'm still waiting for evidence to opine on her part, but mom has some big interviewing with LE continually and 'splaining to do. I mean even if she just "checked out" and let him take care of HER child...? Tons of dates and these are just what is on THIS phone, etc. Years. Ages. Photos. Videos. In your own home. With not only just your child but the ONLY child in the home of of yours that we know of.

Just because I have not decided yet only means there aren't any facts re her yet but that doesnt' mean this new stuff doesn't make it a lot harder to buy she either was a checked out mom, knew something or she explained a lot of things away to herself or let him do so but deep down she knows, knew or suspected... I don't care what kind of secrets your guy keeps if he has a big one, you have things that pop up that you question or that you find on his phone or you catch him in a lie you know to be a lie but he didn't know you knew.. Anyone who has ever dealt with a partner that is a liar or hides things knows this. She needs some help one way or another if she ignored all and convinced herself otherwise or let him because he's the FAKEST assed liar I may have ever seen or watched.

She also IF TRULY UNKNOWING better get out in front with it imo, no matter what LE is saying and any lawyer worth hs salt would as well because the way it stands right now, he could put all that is on him on her and more because no one knows any different one way or the other... LE might... Hard to say... Maybe she's working with them but then if they had enough to charge her with something serious enough, they could do that and use it as leverage too and they haevn't.

Just using blank quiet space to think out loud now.

We all can say what we would or wouldn't do but I know this much--IF this were me and this blindsided me and I KNEW NOTHING, NO ONE could stop me from getting out there and screaming at what he did and she is now finding out and making it clear I have now turned on him, I didn't know and I will help to no end with this prosecution. NOTHING would stop it, even supposed sage advice from one's own lawyer. NOt with something like this.
 
Watching a show that has a child psychiatrist on who said how hard it is to warn kids or teach kids about these dangers these days without other issues and so on, paraphrasing. Most of us don't have kids at home who are on here but some have grandchildren. Also not that many seem to be on this thread but he had a piece of advice on what he does that all thought was great advice and I agree.

He teaches his kids that on one is allowed to have a secret with you, particularly an adult, older child, etc. NO ONE but your mother and I (assuming parents are the parents and married) and EVEN mom and dad can't have one separately with you so to speak. This does a lot in that it tells the child if someone says this is our little secret, or says don't tell, etc., etc., there is nothing you don't tell mom and dad, no secrets. Without alarming a child it says a LOT without saying it. I am not putting it as well as he did but it was great advice and I'm sharing it in the event one person passes it on or uses it.

It is in line with telling a kid they can talk to you about anything and should and it is safe too, etc. but it is more definitive. NOT even okay to have a secret with just one parent. No secrets.

I don't know what that does to if you bought a surprise gift from/with your child for the other spouse and the child tells lol but it's a small price to pay to have NO SECRETS.

It is just something that kids understand better, a very specific rule but not a scary one either... Just tells them because they've been taught it and taught it, when someone says such, it isn't okay...

Again he put it better.
 
Someting just popped into my head out of the blue. Why would he get rid of her her backpack and laptop but not her phone... I figured it is possible he ensured the phone was left at home but why wouldn't you get rid of it as well... This is where the text was to a friend that she wanted to go live in the woods when 13... Did he/they want it found... Was this her only phone... I think there's a lot here we don't know that LE does...

Why again get rid of the two things she'd typically take to school but not the third...
 
So I had seen one interview with grandma and saw mom's inside but had not seen these other ones where mom is outside in the street and then the one of grandma's (I don't think anyhow) where she says he did NOT live there but returned there and was there that weekend, she doesn't know why...
 
I think it is the one with grandma I'd heard about but not seen where it is a translator talking and she was talking I believe to Telemundo or a Mexican channel.
 
Just watching. So then also grandma says he did NOT spend the night but came over the next morning, she doesn't know why... Maybe some here knew this or have seen the translated earlier interviews or who go to things like FB stuff, but I didn't. And I only heard of these other interviews and translations coming out in the past couple of days but hadn't seen anything on them... I knew grandma had another, I did not know mom did.

Of course this info could have came to grandma from Jen or Stephan. IF true however, he didn't killer the night before... Or during the night. IF TRUE. That's a BIG IF. It would have been only Jen home with her one would think until he came the next morning...

Good God.

I've only just started it.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Someting just popped into my head out of the blue. Why would he get rid of her her backpack and laptop but not her phone... I figured it is possible he ensured the phone was left at home but why wouldn't you get rid of it as well... This is where the text was to a friend that she wanted to go live in the woods when 13... Did he/they want it found...

Why again get rid of the two things she'd typically take to school but not the third...
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But the mother countered the notion! She said her daughter was happy- especially so the eve prior with having had the party and gifts she liked- but additionally, she said her daughter wouldn't just leave and/or just not go to school. Indeed, she said she felt her daughter had been taken and so I think if anyone planted the notion that she'd gone off to live in the woods, it wasn't the mother.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Someting just popped into my head out of the blue. Why would he get rid of her her backpack and laptop but not her phone... I figured it is possible he ensured the phone was left at home but why wouldn't you get rid of it as well... This is where the text was to a friend that she wanted to go live in the woods when 13... Did he/they want it found... Was this her only phone... I think there's a lot here we don't know that LE does...

Why again get rid of the two things she'd typically take to school but not the third...
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I'm not convinced she's actually the one that wrote that post. If she wasn't the one that actually posted it, it would make perfect sense that the person that did post it wanted the phone to be found.
 
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