PAUL & MAGGIE MURDAUGH: South Carolina vs. Alex Murdaugh for Double Homicide of wife & son *GUILTY*

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This case is being kept pretty quiet, no major details released to speak of (other than it does say there were two different guns used), but no info regarding who found them, who called 911, very little else.

Of interest, the grandfather died just a few days after these murders and it sounds as if he was ill from various articles so probably not unexpected. I think of the typical motives, did grandpa have a big estate? How big in the overall family of grandpa's on down? They sound like a pretty well known family and a powerful one in their state, more on that in the article.


www.postandcourier.com

Questions abound in SC Murdaugh killing. Among them: Should prosecutor step aside?

Several days after two members of a prominent Hampton County family were fatally shot, questions about what happened still vastly outnumber answers.
www.postandcourier.com www.postandcourier.com
 
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Tresir said:
So this is something I don't quite understand. Did LE not take all the brain and skull fragments for the autopsy? Also, Dr. Riemer regrets not checking the deceased's brain for pellets. It seems like she may not have had all his of his brain and skull. According to JMM testimony (in the Independent article below), LE released the crime scene but left brain matter and skull fragments at the scene. LE also stated incorrectly that AM's shirt was covered in blood spatter.

Avery G. Wilks
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Harpootlian establishes that Dr. Riemer didn’t take X-rays of Paul's brain, which could feasibly still have pellets in it. Riemer: “I determined that wasn’t necessary.” H: “To support your conclusion.” R: “I guess hindsight is 20/20.” She says she wishes she had.

www.independent.co.uk

Alex Murdaugh’s brother testifies that he ‘cleaned up’ what was left of nephew Paul

John Marvin has joined his family members in putting on a united front at Mr Murdaugh’s double murder trial
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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Law enforcement did collect biological matter from the crime scene. Paul's brain was transported to Dr. Riemer's office in a separate container because it was expelled from his skull. The bone fragments that were left at the crime scene weren't necessary for examination however his brain was.

Crime scenes are left to the owner to clean up once law enforcement determines all of the evidence has been retrieved.

I hope that helps. Let me know if not so I can help explain in more specific detail.
 
kdg411 said:
Law enforcement did collect biological matter from the crime scene. Paul's brain was transported to Dr. Riemer's office in a separate container because it was expelled from his skull. The bone fragments that were left at the crime scene weren't necessary for examination however his brain was.

Crime scenes are left to the owner to clean up once law enforcement determines all of the evidence has been retrieved.

I hope that helps. Let me know if not so I can help explain in more specific detail.
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I do understand and already know that owners either clean up themselves or get professionals in to do it but the brain matter and skull fragments they left could have contained evidence, especially as he was shot in the head by a deflective shot. Dr Riemer herself is regretting not xraying the skull and brain, by the sound of it.

It seems to me they returned the crime scene rather too quickly to the family.
 
Tresir said:
I do understand and already know that owners either clean up themselves or get professionals in to do it but the brain matter and skull fragments they left could have contained evidence, especially as he was shot in the head by a deflective shot. Dr Riemer herself is regretting not xraying the skull and brain, by the sound of it.

It seems to me they returned the crime scene rather too quickly to the family.
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They treated him with kid gloves because of his status that he demanded and flaunted. He flashed his badge that he shouldn't have had, etc. They did collect brain matter. What was left could not be collected and had to be cleaned up, which would be the owners responsibility like any other case. This is all defense theatrics.
 
Tresir said:
Except for the one who was discharged? I am surprised, but I agree the jury just wanted to go home.

Anyone think there may be grounds for appeal? The dismissed juror possibly could be grounds. Plus the fact he was not allowed to take the fifth on selected questions. Maybe also too much emphasis on his alleged financial crimes which had not been tried yet.

I don't think we have heard the last of him anyway.

Murdaugh Murders Verdict: Alex Murdaugh found guilty in murder trial

The jury deliberated for less than three hours before finding Murdaugh guilty of two counts of murder Thursday.
www.fox5atlanta.com www.fox5atlanta.com

"Alex Murdaugh, 54, had told police repeatedly after the killings that he was not at the kennels and was instead napping before he went to visit his ailing mother that night. Murdaugh called 911 and said he discovered the bodies when he returned home.

But in his testimony, Murdaugh admitted joining Maggie and Paul at the kennels, where he said he took a chicken away from a rowdy yellow Labrador named Bubba — whose name Murdaugh can be heard saying on the video — before heading back to the house shortly ahead of the fatal shootings.

Murdaugh lied about being at the kennels for 20 months before taking the stand on the 23rd day of his trial. He blamed his decadeslong addiction to opioids for making him paranoid, creating a distrust of police. He said that once he went down that path, he felt trapped in the lie.

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave. Once I told a lie — I told my family — I had to keep lying," he testified."

"Murdaugh’s lawyers will almost certainly appeal the conviction based on the judge allowing evidence of the financial crimes, which they contend were unrelated to the killings and were used by prosecutors to smear Murdaugh’s reputation."
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Maybe the dismissed juror shouldn't have been discussing the trial as instructed. Evidently they were recorded talking about it. Why shouldn't they have been dismissed? They were told that multiple times à day so it's not like they could claim they didn't know.
 
kdg411 said:
Especially since they were sequestered.

OT .. OJ gave his thoughts on this case.



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Tresir said:
Except for the one who was discharged? I am surprised, but I agree the jury just wanted to go home.

Anyone think there may be grounds for appeal? The dismissed juror possibly could be grounds. Plus the fact he was not allowed to take the fifth on selected questions. Maybe also too much emphasis on his alleged financial crimes which had not been tried yet.

I don't think we have heard the last of him anyway.

Murdaugh Murders Verdict: Alex Murdaugh found guilty in murder trial

The jury deliberated for less than three hours before finding Murdaugh guilty of two counts of murder Thursday.
www.fox5atlanta.com www.fox5atlanta.com

"Alex Murdaugh, 54, had told police repeatedly after the killings that he was not at the kennels and was instead napping before he went to visit his ailing mother that night. Murdaugh called 911 and said he discovered the bodies when he returned home.

But in his testimony, Murdaugh admitted joining Maggie and Paul at the kennels, where he said he took a chicken away from a rowdy yellow Labrador named Bubba — whose name Murdaugh can be heard saying on the video — before heading back to the house shortly ahead of the fatal shootings.

Murdaugh lied about being at the kennels for 20 months before taking the stand on the 23rd day of his trial. He blamed his decadeslong addiction to opioids for making him paranoid, creating a distrust of police. He said that once he went down that path, he felt trapped in the lie.

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave. Once I told a lie — I told my family — I had to keep lying," he testified."

"Murdaugh’s lawyers will almost certainly appeal the conviction based on the judge allowing evidence of the financial crimes, which they contend were unrelated to the killings and were used by prosecutors to smear Murdaugh’s reputation."
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This jury was not sequestered so that isn't the issue in this case. They went home every night.
 
Tresir said:
I do understand and already know that owners either clean up themselves or get professionals in to do it but the brain matter and skull fragments they left could have contained evidence, especially as he was shot in the head by a deflective shot. Dr Riemer herself is regretting not xraying the skull and brain, by the sound of it.

It seems to me they returned the crime scene rather too quickly to the family.
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This is a legitimate as well as logical statement. I agree that it does appear that the crime scene was released too soon. Not knowing the standard operating procedures used by local law enforcement and/or SLED makes it difficult to determine why it was released and when. This made me question the integrity and quality of any evidence that was obtained. SLED's role in this case has been questionable, imo.
 
Guess Who said:
Maybe the dismissed juror shouldn't have been discussing the trial as instructed. Evidently they were recorded talking about it. Why shouldn't they have been dismissed? They were told that multiple times à day so it's not like they could claim they didn't know.
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Where did I say they shouldn't have been dismissed? I was answering a post that said all the jurors thought he was guilty, so I said 'except the one who was dismissed'.
 
Tresir said:
Where did I say they shouldn't have been dismissed? I was answering a post that said all the jurors thought he was guilty, so I said 'except the one who was dismissed'.
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When you said that it was a possible grounds for appeal...which they are already filing for...which is what they would have done no matter any specific reasons because that is their right. I can't think of ANY convicted murder charge that an appeal wasn't filed in. No attorney would not do it for more billable hours by itself and no defendant would not want an appeal filed whether guilty or innocent simply because it is their right and what do they have to lose?
 
Guess Who said:
When you said that it was a possible grounds for appeal...which they are already filing for...which is what they would have done no matter any specific reasons because that is their right. I can't think of ANY convicted murder charge that an appeal wasn't filed in. No attorney would not do it for more billable hours by itself and no defendant would not want an appeal filed whether guilty or innocent simply because it is their right and what do they have to lose?
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I didn't say the juror shouldnt have been dismissed This was me giving an opinion and asking a question on possible grounds for appeal because the dismissed juror was selected by the defence and allegedly thought AM was innocent.

"Anyone think there may be grounds for appeal? The dismissed juror possibly could be grounds. Plus the fact he was not allowed to take the fifth on selected questions. Maybe also too much emphasis on his alleged financial crimes which had not been tried yet."
 
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