PAUL & MAGGIE MURDAUGH: South Carolina vs. Alex Murdaugh for Double Homicide of wife & son *GUILTY*

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This case is being kept pretty quiet, no major details released to speak of (other than it does say there were two different guns used), but no info regarding who found them, who called 911, very little else.

Of interest, the grandfather died just a few days after these murders and it sounds as if he was ill from various articles so probably not unexpected. I think of the typical motives, did grandpa have a big estate? How big in the overall family of grandpa's on down? They sound like a pretty well known family and a powerful one in their state, more on that in the article.


 
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I thought he already admitted the financial crimes, so what cases are you talking about?
Lots. He hasn't been convicted of the financial crimes and they are now reopening the housekeeper case and I imagine they will reopen many of the cases he prosecuted to see if he manufactured evidence against them. There are also more deaths that they are looking at to see if he is involved. They even talked about how many counties have cases open during his sentencing this morning He's toast.

 
@Tresir on Day 14 of the trial Sara Zapata SLED DNA analyst found 1 allele under Maggie's fingernails which wasn't enough to determine a DNA profile; on Day 16 David Owen testified that the testimony he provided to the Grand Jury about high velocity blood spatter found on Alex's white t-shirt was inaccurate (misleading).
 
@Tresir on Day 14 of the trial Sara Zapata SLED DNA analyst found 1 allele under Maggie's fingernails which wasn't enough to determine a DNA profile; on Day 16 David Owen testified that the testimony he provided to the Grand Jury about high velocity blood spatter found on Alex's white t-shirt was inaccurate (misleading).
Thanks for that. Will he be charged with perjury for lying to the Grand Jury?
 
Lots. He hasn't been convicted of the financial crimes and they are now reopening the housekeeper case and I imagine they will reopen many of the cases he prosecuted to see if he manufactured evidence against them. There are also more deaths that they are looking at to see if he is involved. They even talked about how many counties have cases open during his sentencing this morning He's toast.

Well as he is already starting a life sentence I don't suppose it is going to make much difference to him. You cannot get blood out of a stone.
 
I don't believe he will be charged however it is a strong issue the appellate court will look at in determing an appeal.
This is what the DOJ says on it. This is archived from 2020 so may be out of date but I don't think it would have changed much.


1741. PERJURY AND FALSE DECLARATIONS BEFORE GRAND JURY OR COURT​

Because false declarations affect the integrity of the factfinding process, the Attorney General's Council on White Collar Crime recommends that offenders be vigorously prosecuted. "Perjured testimony is an obvious and flagrant affront to the basic concepts of judicial proceedings." United States v. Mandujano, 425 U.S. 564, 576 (1976). See also, United States v. Wong, 431 U.S. 174, 180 (1977)("lying is not a way to challenge the Government's right to ask questions").
[cited in JM 9-69.200]
‹ 1740. Protection Of Government Processes -- Other Research Aidsup1742. Perjury Cases -- Investigative Responsibility ›
Updated January 17, 2020
 
I did not know this about the lie detector evidence that wasn't allowed to be referred to in court. This is probably why he was not called as a witness at all.


From the link -

On Oct. 14, Murdaugh's attorneys filed a motion to compel seeking a court order forcing state prosecutors to turn over polygraph data from the May 5, 2022, interview of Curtis Edward Smith, who is charged with drug and financial crimes in connection with Murdaugh. The motion also sought information regarding Smith's DNA and any possible connections of his DNA to the murder crime scene.

Photo of Curtis Edward Smith taking a polygraph test in May of 2022.

Photo of Curtis Edward Smith taking a polygraph test in May of 2022.
COURTESY OF SC ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
The lengthy, detailed and revealing motion alleged that Smith lied during a polygraph test when he was questioned about being at the murder crime scene, and arguably attempted to paint the possibility that there may be other suspects in the murders other than Murdaugh.

On Dec. 28, the state filed two "motions in limine" seeking the exclusion of this polygraph evidence and the exclusion of any evidence related to possible "third-party guilt."

A motion in limine is a pretrial motion that allows litigators to seek to exclude certain evidence from being presented to a jury on the grounds that it may be irrelevant, unreliable, or prejudicial.

The first motion in limine seeks a court order preventing Murdaugh and his counsel from making any reference to polygraphy and any specific polygraph test, arguing that polygraph tests are inadmissible in court and adding that the law typically forbids mention of polygraph tests during court proceedings.

"... the general rule is that no mention of a polygraph test should be placed before the jury," states the filing.

"Despite the inadmissibility of polygraphy, counsels for defendants endeavored mightily to explore the subject - and inaccurately at that - in a highly publicized filing of October 14, 2022. As such, the State expects the Defendant to attempt to broach the subject at trial by any means necessary."

The first motion in limine seeks to exclude any mention of polygraphs during any phase of the trail.

The second motion in limine seeks to prohibit Murdaugh's counsel from making any reference to or presenting evidence of "third-party guilt evidence" during any phase of the trial, at least until after the court reviews the evidence to determine if it meets the standards of SC law.
 
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This is what the DOJ says on it. This is archived from 2020 so may be out of date but I don't think it would have changed much.


1741. PERJURY AND FALSE DECLARATIONS BEFORE GRAND JURY OR COURT​

Because false declarations affect the integrity of the factfinding process, the Attorney General's Council on White Collar Crime recommends that offenders be vigorously prosecuted. "Perjured testimony is an obvious and flagrant affront to the basic concepts of judicial proceedings." United States v. Mandujano, 425 U.S. 564, 576 (1976). See also, United States v. Wong, 431 U.S. 174, 180 (1977)("lying is not a way to challenge the Government's right to ask questions").
[cited in JM 9-69.200]
‹ 1740. Protection Of Government Processes -- Other Research Aidsup1742. Perjury Cases -- Investigative Responsibility ›
Updated January 17, 2020
These rules are for Federal Court not South Carolina circuit court although this is a great start. I'll look into appellate rules for appeal in this state if they are published, hopefully they are.
 
I did not know this about the lie detector evidence that wasn't allowed to be referred to in court.

Lie detector tests are inadmissible in all courts.

The FBI analyzed Curtis Smith's cell phones records on the night of June 7th. The results were not presented in court however the agent did testify that he was excluded as a suspect.

Since it was the FBI that testified to this versus SLED, I'm inclined to believe that testimony.
 
Lie detector tests are inadmissible in all courts.

The FBI analyzed Curtis Smith's cell phones records on the night of June 7th. The results were not presented in court however the agent did testify that he was excluded as a suspect.

Since it was the FBI that testified to this versus SLED, I'm inclined to believe that testimony.
It is still interesting that he failed the lie detector on that question though. Also, a cell phone location does not necessarily mean the owner is located with it.
 
May I ask and I hope y'all don't mind ...

Due to time constraints I can't follow case murdaugh like a proper crimewatcher ... but here, at very end ... I'm catching verdict result and trial highlights in "news" referencing a "smoking gun" snap chat video ... so ... and I beg your pardon and indulgence here ... News suggesting defense didn't know of this specific snap chat evidence b/4 trial?

When did prosecution get "smoking gun" snap chat (son's phone) video evidence admitted?
Was it after discovery and during trial - last minute?
Did defense miss this in discovery?
Was there argument over the submission of the snap chat evidence?

thanks muchly!
 
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May I ask and I hope y'all don't mind ...

Due to time constraints I can't follow case murdaugh like a proper crimewatcher ... but here, at very end ... I'm catching verdict result and trial highlights in "news" referencing a "smoking gun" snap chat video ... so ... and I beg your pardon and indulgence here ... News suggesting defense didn't know of this specific snap chat evidence b/4 trial?

When did prosecution get smoking gun video evidence admitted?
Was it after discovery and during trial - last minute?
Did defense miss this in discovery?
Was there argument over the submission of the snap chat evidence?

thanks muchly!
I wasn't able to follow closely, but the only evidence I heard about that wasn't before trial was Alex's truck gps type info. That came in during trial. It's where it shows where is truck was and what time it was everywhere and how fast or slow it was going that night. It tells quite a story all by itself.
 
May I ask and I hope y'all don't mind ...

Due to time constraints I can't follow case murdaugh like a proper crimewatcher ... but here, at very end ... I'm catching verdict result and trial highlights in "news" referencing a "smoking gun" snap chat video ... so ... and I beg your pardon and indulgence here ... News suggesting defense didn't know of this specific snap chat evidence b/4 trial?

When did prosecution get "smoking gun" snap chat (son's phone) video evidence admitted?
Was it after discovery and during trial - last minute?
Did defense miss this in discovery?
Was there argument over the submission of the snap chat evidence?

thanks muchly!
I think it took a year or so for LE to crack the phone and actually find the video. I read something about this a few days ago but will have to check and see if I can find it again.

Just found this. It looks like the SC video was produced to the court on 20th Jan 2023 and they obtained a certification from a SC employee to confirm it's authenticity.

 
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I think it took a year or so for LE to crack the phone and actually find the video. I read something about this a few days ago but will have to check and see if I can find it again.

Just found this. It looks like the SC video was produced to the court on 20th Jan 2023 and they obtained a certification from a SC employee to confirm it's authenticity.

Wow, thanks Tresir. State won their case on evidence not submitted until 20th Jan 2023. Trial began 5 days later.
Talk about sandbagging. Well played. And just wow.
 

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