PAUL & MAGGIE MURDAUGH: South Carolina vs. Alex Murdaugh for Double Homicide of wife & son *GUILTY*

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This case is being kept pretty quiet, no major details released to speak of (other than it does say there were two different guns used), but no info regarding who found them, who called 911, very little else.

Of interest, the grandfather died just a few days after these murders and it sounds as if he was ill from various articles so probably not unexpected. I think of the typical motives, did grandpa have a big estate? How big in the overall family of grandpa's on down? They sound like a pretty well known family and a powerful one in their state, more on that in the article.


 
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It can be taken as a painkiller and then you can get addicted. It sounds like it has taking over from heroin and cocaine. The government article explains that illicit users grind the pills up and snort it like cocaine to get a bigger high. I wonder if it was being supplied to college students. We may never know the full story
 
It can be taken as a painkiller and then you can get addicted. It sounds like it has taking over from heroin and cocaine. The government article explains that illicit users grind the pills up and snort it like cocaine to get a bigger high. I wonder if it was being supplied to college students. We may never know the full story
Oh I'm well aware of the oxy problem and the bad doctors and even higher ups that have allowed this to happen. Many pill poppers consider themselves not drug addcits if it is "prescription" pills but of course there is also the street thing, its rampant. Painkillers in general. Of course they are drug addicts even if they abuse their prescription.

I was unaware of the injecting.
 
In SOME ways, he'd be smarter to want longer in federal prison.... If he has to serve life, if he dies in there it is where they prefer him to be of the choices he has. If he can never get out or win on appeal then he'd want to serve his time in federal. The MINUTE the federal sentence is done he would go back to state prison so he is in a bit of a fix where you'd think you'd want less time but he also actually has o want more time...

I suspect the guilty plea is to get him out of state prison and into federal as soon as humanly possible. It's sad this game can be played by a convict or that one is better than the other quite honestly.

He's pleading guilty because the case is a slam dunk. He admitted under oath that he did the crimes. So, what else will he do. By pleading guilty, he avoids staying in the local jail. Why not try to get something out of it? He'd be saving the government a lot of money to try him. If he wants to be transferred to Federal prison, let him. It's not that different.
 
He's pleading guilty because the case is a slam dunk. He admitted under oath that he did the crimes. So, what else will he do. By pleading guilty, he avoids staying in the local jail. Why not try to get something out of it? He'd be saving the government a lot of money to try him. If he wants to be transferred to Federal prison, let him. It's not that different.
I think I said as much, he wants into federal prison and I'm sure the sooner the better. As far as pleading guilty because it is a slam dunk, I don't think that's his reason and that wouldn't stop him from thinking otherwise. He tried to already turn around what he said in court about admitting guilt. Didn't work but he tried to. I don't know, I hear varying things about federal prisons versus state. Federal prisons from what I underrstand ARE better than the worst state ones. Maybe not better than the best but they are supposedly than quite a number of them.

I think the populations in them can vary quite a bit too versus the state ones.

If you recall, the defendants in Arbery tried to get federal. Didn't work.

It would seem for certain types of men it may be better. One case has a racist LE officer and the other has a privileged southern monied corrupt white attorney.
 


Very interesting. Alex is not behaving in prison and is getting info to the media, using other inmate's PIN numbers, has lost his tablet and phone privilegs, and commissary privilege, etc. Buster's recent interview and Alex with SOME of this seems to be for a documentary being made. I haven't watched all yet but am some minutes in.

@Tresir and others who may be interested, listen to just the first nine minutes of this and I think you'll want to continue... Interesting. He just doesn't get he is not privileged any longer to do as he likes and is not following rules and abusing them, etc. Oh and the attorney is mentioned too, Griffin, as part of this.
 
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Sounds like Jim Griffin should be sanctioned or up for discipline by the Bar Assn. Alex is basically getting things through Griffin allegedly through his attoney to the media for a documentary which is AGAINST rules. Using the atty/client privilege and fact atty. contact is to be private and not recorded to sneak things through is how I take it. AND MORE.
 


The talk in the YT lawyer video I posted is both of these things are that they are doing these things for the show being made. Buster isn't forbidden by law but Alex is and so he is trying to circumvent in by getting things through the channel of his lawyer which is a serious ethical issue if this is the case.
 
Why can't he or his lawyer talk to the media? Is it because he still has an outstanding case?
I don't know about media but he cannot profit from a TV show, do media interviews, etc. (Alex) from what I understand.

I watched this last night. She is a newer one to me i have watched a handful of times. She is good and I am going there more often. I gather the show is out and she covers that and I guess it is pretty good and covers BOTH sides, etc. The entire thing is worth watching. Highly recommend. It gets to a part for just a bit where it seems she is repeating some things we know from trial but that passes and then it is all about the new stuff. Doesn't sound like Alex's part and journal sharing was all that whatever but then there is Buster...

 

BY JOHN MONK
SEPTEMBER 02, 2023 9:20 AM

If you thought the two-year torrent of sensational news about convicted killer Alex Murdaugh and his notorious accomplices was coming to an end, you may be wrong. Murdaugh defense attorney Jim Griffin this week told cable television news anchor Chris Cuomo that the jurors who found Murdaugh guilty of killing his wife, Maggie, and son Paul may have been tampered with. There are “serious questions as to whether this jury was subject to outside influences during the case,” Griffin told Cuomo on the anchor’s Thursday night News Nation broadcast. TOP VIDEOS

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Sources told The State that Murdaugh’s defense team plans a news conference on Tuesday afternoon at 2:30 pm on the State House grounds, apparently to discuss the juror matters. FitsNews first reported on the news conference.
 
I don't know about media but he cannot profit from a TV show, do media interviews, etc. (Alex) from what I understand.

I watched this last night. She is a newer one to me i have watched a handful of times. She is good and I am going there more often. I gather the show is out and she covers that and I guess it is pretty good and covers BOTH sides, etc. The entire thing is worth watching. Highly recommend. It gets to a part for just a bit where it seems she is repeating some things we know from trial but that passes and then it is all about the new stuff. Doesn't sound like Alex's part and journal sharing was all that whatever but then there is Buster...


How come Netfix were able to show their series when the trial was ongoing but he cannot appear on a TV show now? I don't really understand that. And I never thought that was right.
 
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BY JOHN MONK
SEPTEMBER 02, 2023 9:20 AM

If you thought the two-year torrent of sensational news about convicted killer Alex Murdaugh and his notorious accomplices was coming to an end, you may be wrong. Murdaugh defense attorney Jim Griffin this week told cable television news anchor Chris Cuomo that the jurors who found Murdaugh guilty of killing his wife, Maggie, and son Paul may have been tampered with. There are “serious questions as to whether this jury was subject to outside influences during the case,” Griffin told Cuomo on the anchor’s Thursday night News Nation broadcast. TOP VIDEOS

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Sources told The State that Murdaugh’s defense team plans a news conference on Tuesday afternoon at 2:30 pm on the State House grounds, apparently to discuss the juror matters. FitsNews first reported on the news conference.
Oh wow. What would those outside influences likely be? This article discusses the possibility.

 
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How come Netfix were able to show their series when the trial was ongoing but he cannot appear on a TV show now? I don't really understand that. And I never thought that was right.
Probably because he wasn't convicted until after that trial was over. The atty' video I linked above said the law is that convicted felons cannot do so. He wouldn't have been convicted then. I agree with such a law by the way. Her video is worth watching and does explain some of those things including why his atty. could be in hot water, etc. and what they were apparently doing.
 
Oh wow. What would those outside influences likely be? This article discusses the possibility.

Outside influences could simply be that they watched news, a video, etc. I guess however it could be that someone approached a juror but I'd doubt it. I think considering who is saying this it is all overblown and probably an attempt to pass baloney as important.

I could actually see Murdaugh getting a juror to do such and throw the thing. He is definitely the corrupt type to do such. And in my opinion his attorneys, I wouldn't put it past them, not saying that's a certainty with them but it sure the heck is something Alex would do and look at what they were just doing with passing info, etc. and that WAS the attorneys.

Apparently he is not going to just shut up, go away and behave. Again I recommend the video I posted.
 
Outside influences could simply be that they watched news, a video, etc. I guess however it could be that someone approached a juror but I'd doubt it. I think considering who is saying this it is all overblown and probably an attempt to pass baloney as important.

I could actually see Murdaugh getting a juror to do such and throw the thing. He is definitely the corrupt type to do such. And in my opinion his attorneys, I wouldn't put it past them, not saying that's a certainty with them but it sure the heck is something Alex would do and look at what they were just doing with passing info, etc. and that WAS the attorneys.

Apparently he is not going to just shut up, go away and behave. Again I recommend the video I posted.
I think they are gathering evidence for the appeal by the sounds of all this. But breaking rules while they are doing it.

I haven't watched any of the videos. I am usually put off by the length of them in a lot of cases. I prefer to read mainly.
 
I think they are gathering evidence for the appeal by the sounds of all this. But breaking rules while they are doing it.

I haven't watched any of the videos. I am usually put off by the length of them in a lot of cases. I prefer to read mainly.
Appeal plus basically trying to turn public opinion, plant seeds and perhaps profit/make money...?

I can identify. There was a time I never watched videos nor could imagine doing so, wasn't my thing but I've come to appreciate them, especially good ones that give me good coverage or an account of the important facts in a case weeding out the other stuff or finally with attorneys, like her, explaining things with respect to the law, etc. that I don't think one gets from reading in the same way.

I was just like you, I wanted all in print and to read it. And I certainly lack time to watch many videos or read all but now am so used to videos, that a good one again catching me up and explaining I appreciate.

One thing I do remain preferring "print" for is instructions. If I am fixing something, putting something together, etc., I want step by step in print, not in video lol. Although I've finally come to realize with that too, video can have its benefits depending on what it is.

Finally, print just can't get across sometimes what a video can. And there are just some really good ones to follow out there these days. An article can't replay a press conference for instances and discuss each part while playing it just for an example.

Anyhow, I'm just saying she explains why Alex AND his attorneys are in the wrong and can't do as they've been doing, etc. legally. And you asked about that so apparently you haven't read the reasons in print. It would answer a lot of your questions is all I'm saying.

Alex is SOMETHING ELSE isn't he.... And not a good something else... And his attorney... Still seem to think they can do anything and are above and immune to consequences even though he has HAD consequences and sits in a cell and has a conviction...
 

BY ANNA COMMANDER ON 9/4/23 AT 12:16 PM EDT

Once prominent South Carolina attorney Alex Murdaugh may get another day in court as his legal team confirmed they plan to file for a new trial after what they call newly "discovered evidence," South Carolina news station WCSC reported Sunday.

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Attorney Dick Harpootlian, who previously represented Murdaugh during his murder trial, scheduled a news conference for Tuesday afternoon in Columbia, South Carolina, he told Newsweek on Monday. Harpootlian also confirmed to Newsweek his intent to file for a new trial, but declined to elaborate on what the newly discovered evidence is.

Criminal defense attorney and legal analyst, Sara Azari, took to X, previously known as Twitter, to comment on the news on Sunday and wrote, "Big time s***! #TheStormsAComin #AlexMurdaugh."

Retired FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer also reacted on X on Sunday evening and wrote, "Interesting. #Alexmurdaugh appeal may be based on jury bias and "newly discovered" evidence. His defense team will hold a press conference Tuesday at 2:30 EDT to discuss. I will definitely be in attendance."
 
So they have something but he is going to drum up interest by the news refusing to say what it is and holding a press conference. Is this being tried in the press? If they have something why don't they just file it and she it when asked? I find this distasteful. They make it a show.

So since they wouldn't say, how does Azari know it is big time sh**? Hmm? And how does Coffindaffer figure it "may" be based on jury bias AND newly discovered evidence? Hmm? If they know, then say so. If they don't then are they just doing the talking head thing and making it sound big and on BEHALF of Alex? I find that distasteful too in either case.

What is with all the timing of several things here? We have the Fox Nation thing come out, with talk of ethical violations by the other defense attorney and Alex getting in trouble and losing privileges to get info to them and footage, etc. and at the same time Buster's recent interview/statements and almost coincidentally now this just after that hit the TV. Interesting how that was all Griffin and this is Old Poot.

Maybe they have something big and legit, I'll believe it when I see it/hear it. And if it is a legitimate thing, I will likely figure or suspect they caused it or are behind it just due to the fact that Alex and almost everyone around him was so corrupt in the very system they are in now.

A new trial. Hmm. I supposed they'd need one to get rid of some of the things he said in the first one. Would that make it all null and void? Do we think he'd choose not to testify in a new one?

Such big hype that they intend to request a new trial. You'd think the request has been granted or something. Even if it is, with the prosecution putting on the same case, my opinion is he'd get convicted yet again. However, would it get rid of all he said on the stand, etc.? Not sure how that works, but I would guess so. Would they try to force a deal as the prosecution would have to recall every witness and do it all again...? If so, it would get rid of his admissions that he stole and defrauded clients, etc. And then would they argue the guilty plea and deal made with the feds because the trial he said such things in was now in essence "thrown out"?

A waste of my time at the moment. It could be a big nothing burger with all this hype being made. If there were new evidence, shouldn't they be turning it over and announcing it? And if there were any juror misconduct, etc., you'd think we'd have heard of that too, haven't heard many speak out or anything. I guess they could have found something in one's background or something.

But that's the point. I'm speculating which is a waste of time in this case. And it is unclear if the commenters are doing that as well or if they are "in the know". It is all unclear at the moment but gets buzz I guess.

It makes me think of LISK where every time a presser was announced, I'd think it was something big and it was always just Asa's attorney creating press and buzz and sympathy and to get money pouring in.

I hate the fact I miss trials on cases I've followed etc. due to work schedules but it won't bother me to miss this presser as I'll hear of it soon enough and it isn't like it is a PC to announce arrest of a murder suspect. I know who murdered Paul and Maggie. This is just legal maneuvering by the convicted perp and his team. If they really have something they should be filing it and proceeding in a serious legal fashion and not creating hype for attention and holding the info back. In my opinion anyhow.

New evidence you find all these years after. Hmm. What did Alex plant and hoped they'd find to push them towards another perp that they missed. Just one example of what I think of them.

And again all these things going on just recently, how coincidental and crafted maybe? Did they JUST discover this in the day or few after the Fox Nation documentary? Or did they hold it back until that was aired? Odd.

I sit here and try to think and type this and then get irritated that I am as it's hardly worth it or the time wondering about. I'm sure we will find out today at the presser. I can easily wait until I get home tonight to know in this one.

It's interesting to me though that they continue to represent him. Are they being paid? Seriously. Do they just love and have a sincere loyalty to Alex Murdaugh?

Non-coffeed thoughts. Time to get a cup.
 

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