I am not sure at all on this one. I'm pretty sure it started out as voluntary, at least. After that??? Not enough info for me to have a clue.
I'm not either. They have to clear up the ping and the time line for me to have any certainty.
It is not proven but I do accept that is likely him on camera. I mean I don't know if it would stand up as clear proof but it fits and makes sense and looks like him but it is a quick blur.
The ping and timeline is the sticking point. Verbal disagreement at that time/that night is another.
There is NO evidence he every left their yard or area. That BOTHERS me.
We know little about these men and I'm not saying we should, there is no crime we know of and we can't expect to and I don't do SM to have that kind of impression, info or idea. The only time I see social media is if someone shares it like on a YT video and no one is covering this that i watch so I don't know a bit more than what is here in this thread.
I don't like the lack of further sightings, the shut off phone with last ping at home, the lack of use of any credit card, etc. No proof he ever went far from home. He didn't even take a vehicle. I see no reason at all to think a murder or crime was committed but I also see no reason to think he did no re enter the home after cops left. And at that point there were many hours until reported missing the next day.
I am not accusing, like you say, I am just not sure in this one, not enough info but the info there is does bring questions...
I disregard accident or suicide although of course neither can be 100 percent impossible. I think them the most unlikely.
I also have to wonder about the home searches. Apparently there was more than one before he refused and lawyered up. Maybe for valid reasons, do not take that to mean he shouldn't have or anyone wise shouldn't have if they were going after him, etc. or to protect the kids. I don't judge on that but of course wonder.
I can only wonder with more than one search though and it sounded like wanting another, the reason why. For one, I'd GUESS they can't place him timewise anywhere but home last. I'd also just GUESS that one search gave them doubts or reasons to want another... Or they were limited in searching in some way. Total GUESSES on my part and I am only just thinking of this now as we have talked some out here today of other things, etc.
I also am realizing the same LE would only have heard HIS side of the "verbal" disagreement story the night before...Not Tyler's. Maybe the kids, at that point, hard to say, when officers responded. And it is still POSSIBLE a kid called this IN. As possible as anyone. Isn't this a home? What are the odds neighbors heard it inside from next door, that just comes to me now for the first time too? Not the same as an apartment...
Just tryiing to work some things out here I haven't thought of before as I "talk" it out.
One kid or another could have a cell phone easily and called from their room.
So now let me think.
So the next day when reported missing by same guy they had talked to the night before they already had whatever he'd said and kids if any and what a 911 caller said whoever it was. So the same LE looks at it and also has the night before, the call and their opinion of believability... And of course we don't know their history, crimnial, DV or if any, etc. LE does.
Even with just thinking all this and talking it out I am not of an opinion, just thinking, speculating. There is NO reason at all to think there was a crime here or accuse anyone so I'm not and I'm not with any solid opinion on it and have no reason to think such. Just looking at the possibiliites.
I will say that every day that passes makes it far more unlikely he is missing voluntarily especially with no sightings, card usage, nothing with him for clothing, MISSING work, etc. There ARE some red flags here.
If HE IS missing voluntarily then he is a selfish arsehole knowing hei is being looked for, that cops are looking at his hub possibly and what hub and kids are going through.
It COULD be suicide but I don't buy it. Take your wallet and phone, think about this, but NEVER use either... What did you need/want them for to begin with. It would have to be a sudden last minute decision to suicide then. Accident would be sooooo unlikely and coincidental imo.
Didn't take his vehicle but could have...
I watched the vid a couple of times but for me it was a blur other than it looked like him. For those that know more how to slow, enhance, etc. any view of wallet or cell? Did the shorts have pockets? Etc.?
Wallet and cell said by hub I believe hat he saw him take OR determined they were missing. LE couldn't know that on their own...
So far not a single camera or sighting away from home at least as far as last ping time. No one has found the wallet or cell phone or any evidence of him or his stuff. No cards, etc. have been used. No gas station videos of him using cash and getting food, etc. Of course not all would be found that easily or all people know he is missing but just saying in two weeks none of that...
Lol I didn't start this post out with any such direction but as I thought of one thing, then another, I continued.
I'm still not sold on anything but there definitely are a lot of questions and things that don't make sense. So far anyhow. If he is alive and somewhere else then where? That he'd take losing his job, never need to use a car or credit cards, etc.
Suicide is not out the window but it sure would be a hasty one when up to then he seemed to have a normal day of work, stop at Costco, etc. And doesn't sound like he fled with any gun, rope, knife...