There's simply no possible way / time frame for Tyler's husband to have harmed him.
IMO - Their relationship was on the rocks (this is confirmed below). The conversation was recorded because it was getting heated in some way. Maybe his husband wanted to use it in future divorce or custody hearings, maybe he just wanted to replay the conversation for himself or Tyler later. But something was said to push Tyler over the edge (the "not supposed to be forever" thing specifically) and he threatened self-harm / leaving and not coming back.
At 7:41 pm on 11/3/2023, Tyler Goodrich left his home near Lincoln, NE - he has not been seen since. Tyler was reported as a missing person by his spouse the next morning at 9:35 am. In the month since he disappeared, we've received numerous tips, theories, and speculation but still, no Tyler...
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- Argument was recorded on cell phone. Recording stopped when call was made to 911. Times line up with what was said to have happened.
- 7:40 pm - Tyler left residence through garage door. Observed on camera. LE is as certain as they can be that the person seen on video is Tyer.
- 7:41 pm - Tyler's phone shuts off
The 35-year-old veteran and father of two who worked at the Nebraska Department of Corrections went missing from his home in Lincoln, Nebraska, on the evening of November 3, 2023.
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“Marshall Vogel told Dateline that he and Tyler were discussing their relationship that night. “Things were tough. We -- we both knew that we loved each other very much. It was just maybe our --
maybe our marriage wasn’t supposed to be forever,” he said. “We talked about what a perfect night would be. And so Tyler said, ‘A movie night with our kids and pizza and just hanging out.’ “
Marshall said he and Tyler wound up getting into an argument. “I ended up calling 911,” he said. “
When I was on the phone with 911, Tyler left out of the garage.”
He hasn’t been seen since.
Investigator Schwarz told Dateline that they have a recording that Marshall had taken of the argument that night. “
It’s an audio recording of an argument, or I would more describe it as a conversation between Tyler and Marshall,” Schwarz said. That audio has not been publicly released.
I don't know, I think he may have returned to the home once LE left. He has never used a credit card or anything else. And why has he not been caught on video anywhere else that night? Surely he'd have run past other cameras in the neighborhood?
And I can't help but wonder about his refusal at a point to cooperate with LE. I know and have heard the possible reasons for it but it still makes me wonder. The kids are teens,l let them clear up any questions.
I don't see anything that proves one theory over another. I mean suicde is possible. So is holing up somewhere with someone. So is foul play.
They say they are at a dead end (LE) and so for me that likely means the found no further neighborhood video or anything else to lead anywhere most likely. They also are only as certain that they can be that that video is him and that too leads me to believe there were no other sightings and as no other video.
And calling 911 to begin with if not a serious fight is odd. The detective said the argument was recorded but then said it was more of a conversation so again why are you calling 911? All I can think of is he was trying to get him in trouble and I don't imagine a corrections officer would want that so he left so LE could not find him. Interesting to find out there is a barn to the back of the property. I just read the article before this remark, I haven't watched the podcast.
Cops also say they checked neighbor's and area cameras and nothing
His friend says and family seem to feel the same that someone needs to confess.
So only one child was home at the time.
He wasn't reported missing until the next day. Family and friends seem to have no consideration of suicide and from all they say he doesn't seem the type.
As for the remark about the marriage maybe not being forever, in the article it does not say which one said that
Tyler had a job, I wonder what the husband did. Was he a stay at home dad? I wonder if there was money incoming due to the adoption. There is such these days in many instances.
The father Lonnie talks of him and the kids and how good that way he was, etc.
Family and friends say nothing about his husband. In fact I'd say they avoid it. No references to a good marriage, about them both being good dads, nothing.
I wasn't sure of anything but this article actually leans me more that way. He might have been a runner but it doesn't appear he ran down the street, not another sighting of him by cam or people. He may well have run to the barn. He didn't go take his vehicle. His turning his phone off immediately when he was a constant phone and tech user per his dad to me was so cops couldn't find him when they arrived that night.
Yeah I'd say the hub may have been documenting for divorce purposes. I'd say there was no way Tyler wouldn't have fought for custody and the hub's only income may well have been Tyler and/or if he ended up with the kids either through the payments if they get them OR child support.
I even wonder if he picked an argument to document because again calling 911 over a "conversation" per LE, makes NO SENSE.
I'd finish with he has the kids now. Free and clear or so it appears.
There's a bit too much for me to ignore now.
I don't think he ran off feeling suicidal, it was because he knew cops were on the way. Imo. Good chance he did not know the hub was recording either.
His job could well have clauses that you can't have been convicted of a domestic or felony or other conditions. I don't know what was going on here but it seems a bit planned to me as the 911 call makes no sense.
I don't know and if wrong, I feel bad but just as he knows and says of course the spouse is the first suspect, etc. I haven't seen a thing that shows it wasn't him but of course, it could be something else. If so, hard to figure though with no other area camera footage and I doubt some stranger was waiting for him out back and decided to kill him.
I wonder if he had a habit of going say to the barn when they weren't getting along. It's quite a common thing in marriages, for one to go to the garage, basement, outside if nice, even to a bedroom or sit in the car, a shed or a barn...
But who knows. I do wonder if the hub worked, the kids were teenagers and likely in school and I wonder if he worked before they adopted. It sounds like Tyler loved his job, had a lot of friends there, had a lot of military friends and a lot of friends in general, loved his family even going to birthdays and Halloween events and could be counted on to do so at his dad's etc. Practicing for a race and would never let the team down. He doesn't sound much like someone who would in a short hour or two from Costco to this "conversation" suddenly be unstable and suicidal. He took nothing with him or so it seems he could even commit suicide with. He was in the military and very athletic so I'd guess he swims. If he threw himself in front of a car, there would have been an accident and a body. So that seems unlikely to me and so does encountering some murderous stranger and not being seen on any video.
I'm sure it is no surprise I lean this way and now lean harder still but I'm giving most of the reasons for it/trying to detail them.
I will acknowledge there is no known evidence against the hub but we also don't know what he may not have allowed and so on. There's no known evidence pointing hard in any other direction though, that's for sure.
His father and most seem sure he is dead as they are so CERTAIN that's the only explanation and that someone else did this to him and he woudln't have and would be in touch if alive.
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