Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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Hmmm. Although he thinks well or probably so of the new leaders in this case, there are a lot in the case that are/were the same people who were in it before. You know, before, when things weren't done right....
 
LE have NOT interviewed Crybaby's wife! WTH?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised BUT I would have thought maybe right before arrest, they took in the family, told them just ahead of time and at that time questioned them and gave them some basic advice. Not the case.

Sounds like she has almost $50K in a gofundme effort.

I'm not sure what my problem is with her in this case, but my instinct with her is not hitting my sympathy button. Now that I know they haven't even talked with her, it is even more odd imo that she immediately lawyered up and filed for divorce.

These bodies were basically in their "back yard". Can you imagine living that close to something like this and never wondering about your husband and every single neighbor?? Especially when you've got a DAUGHTER also living there?

I'm sure if no clue she was totally FLOORED by this but in short order wouldn't you offer to talk to LE to tell them all you know if innocent whether you believe your husband innocent or guilty?? Wouldn't you realize at some point you may be a victim but the dead women and their families are MORE the victims than you and say something about such?

Did anyone else imagine they had not interviewed her at least on arrest, just before or right after...??? And why not...
 
LE have NOT interviewed Crybaby's wife! WTH?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised BUT I would have thought maybe right before arrest, they took in the family, told them just ahead of time and at that time questioned them and gave them some basic advice. Not the case.

Sounds like she has almost $50K in a gofundme effort.

I'm not sure what my problem is with her in this case, but my instinct with her is not hitting my sympathy button. Now that I know they haven't even talked with her, it is even more odd imo that she immediately lawyered up and filed for divorce.

These bodies were basically in their "back yard". Can you imagine living that close to something like this and never wondering about your husband and every single neighbor?? Especially when you've got a DAUGHTER also living there?

I'm sure if no clue she was totally FLOORED by this but in short order wouldn't you offer to talk to LE to tell them all you know if innocent whether you believe your husband innocent or guilty?? Wouldn't you realize at some point you may be a victim but the dead women and their families are MORE the victims than you and say something about such?

Did anyone else imagine they had not interviewed her at least on arrest, just before or right after...??? And why not...

That is very odd!!
 
That is very odd!!
I think so. It came from Grizzly. A recent one. Maybe her newest. I should have likned it.

Cops generally plan things or don't let a perp think they are onto him hoping to get answers before they lawyer up and I'd think they'd certainly have tried to get interviews, etc. here hot off the surprise arrest with the family, etc...
 
Did they find out or sense this was coming? The arrest was rushed or so it sounded and even in the PCs they talked of the secrecy needed and trying to keep the grand jury and all hush but felt they had to move for SOME reason...
 
Just reinforces their case with chain of custody and cheek swab DNA etc. Shoot. I thought it meant more, like maybe could be used to determine others. Not so sure now. But I am not surprised he refused and had to be ordered...
The guilty do that. They won't give it. So a court order is gotten. Well you have to now! Stupid! The hold up doesn't make you less guilty. I don't understand them doing that. Think your DNA is going to change?. Good luck with that.
 
The guilty do that. They won't give it. So a court order is gotten. Well you have to now! Stupid! The hold up doesn't make you less guilty. I don't understand them doing that. Think your DNA is going to change?. Good luck with that.
Typical defense attorney move though. Gotta milk the hours and the attention while doing really nothing but time delays even if a public defender in cases. Do we really think most care about the client or it is just the standard move and response...

I'm so disgusted with this system any longer.
 
I think so. It came from Grizzly. A recent one. Maybe her newest. I should have likned it.

Cops generally plan things or don't let a perp think they are onto him hoping to get answers before they lawyer up and I'd think they'd certainly have tried to get interviews, etc. here hot off the surprise arrest with the family, etc...

You'd think that while they are arresting him someone would be at the house, telling her and other family members there that he was being arrested and what for. Then interview them there or ask them to come down to the PD for an interview. Especially with the number of her hairs found on the bodies.
 
You'd think that while they are arresting him someone would be at the house, telling her and other family members there that he was being arrested and what for. Then interview them there or ask them to come down to the PD for an interview. Especially with the number of her hairs found on the bodies.
That's EXACTLY what I assumed happened all along or that they would do simultaneously at their home as they arrested him in Manhattan and then I heard this, that no they haven't talked to her at ALL.

Why is that??? That's your CHANCE. With him as well, when first arrested and surprised.

All his searches and their arresting likely before they planned, was it because of another possible impending attack or was it because he and his wife were becoming aware they were onto him? I include her in this remark BECAUSE of the fact they didn't try to interview or interrogate her or the kids....

This came from Grizzly and I should have linked it and given the time in the video but never once have I known her to put something out that was false and if unknown she says so, this was a fact I believe. It came from something she likely named. I am so overloaded and tired but I wouldn't have shared it if not pretty certain it is the case.

Even in our "small" case (not small but huge to us as you know but not nationally known of course), it was so hard to hold in the feelings but we were constantly advised he hadn't lawyered up and other reasons to share with no one that they knew he did it so that he would keep talking to them if they requested, for one reason.

I bring this up because as we all know it is their maybe one chance to do that with HIM AND family.

And she lawyered up pretty fast and filed for divorce. I honestly thought that was likely due to their advice.

I've been on about her on here and I am not sure what my issue is with her but I just don't like something about it all. It isn't like we know much but something just doesn't sit right. I feel the same with Allen's wife in Delphi but in that one we haven't heard from her at all. And maybe that's part of it with both of them. Whether they think their husbands innocent or guilty, THEY say nothing about the poor families or victims. This one though does and has talked about her woes and damages and has went on about what she has had to suffer. She's alive though. They aren't.

I was trying to be fair but it is hard to understand. I understand it was a whammy (if it was unknown to her) but along with that would come a whammy about what these families must then feel or have dealt with all these years. She could say I don't think he did this but regardless, I can't even imagine what they are going through and I sure hope the perp is caught and slayed, but it isn't my husband. Or is. What DOES she believe? Or was she part?
 
That's EXACTLY what I assumed happened all along or that they would do simultaneously at their home as they arrested him in Manhattan and then I heard this, that no they haven't talked to her at ALL.

Why is that??? That's your CHANCE. With him as well, when first arrested and surprised.

All his searches and their arresting likely before they planned, was it because of another possible impending attack or was it because he and his wife were becoming aware they were onto him? I include her in this remark BECAUSE of the fact they didn't try to interview or interrogate her or the kids....

This came from Grizzly and I should have linked it and given the time in the video but never once have I known her to put something out that was false and if unknown she says so, this was a fact I believe. It came from something she likely named. I am so overloaded and tired but I wouldn't have shared it if not pretty certain it is the case.

Even in our "small" case (not small but huge to us as you know but not nationally known of course), it was so hard to hold in the feelings but we were constantly advised he hadn't lawyered up and other reasons to share with no one that they knew he did it so that he would keep talking to them if they requested, for one reason.

I bring this up because as we all know it is their maybe one chance to do that with HIM AND family.

And she lawyered up pretty fast and filed for divorce. I honestly thought that was likely due to their advice.

I've been on about her on here and I am not sure what my issue is with her but I just don't like something about it all. It isn't like we know much but something just doesn't sit right. I feel the same with Allen's wife in Delphi but in that one we haven't heard from her at all. And maybe that's part of it with both of them. Whether they think their husbands innocent or guilty, THEY say nothing about the poor families or victims. This one though does and has talked about her woes and damages and has went on about what she has had to suffer. She's alive though. They aren't.

I was trying to be fair but it is hard to understand. I understand it was a whammy (if it was unknown to her) but along with that would come a whammy about what these families must then feel or have dealt with all these years. She could say I don't think he did this but regardless, I can't even imagine what they are going through and I sure hope the perp is caught and slayed, but it isn't my husband. Or is. What DOES she believe? Or was she part?

IIRC, they saw that he was looking up things on how they could catch the LISK. The cops began to worry that he might be on to the fact that they were getting close.
 
IIRC, they saw that he was looking up things on how they could catch the LISK. The cops began to worry that he might be on to the fact that they were getting close.
Yeah but why was he thinking that to begin with is what I wonder... We sure didn't know this was coming or going on.... I wonder still about connections and at minimum he certainly dealt with the city.... Did someone give him a head's up that they had a hint something was looming? Someone that shouldn't have and we will never hear about of course...
 
if you watch the one I posted above with Taylor and Gilbert's lawyer, what does it make you wonder...

I never got to get back to that but he did mention that the same people are still part of this investigation, many of them, that were there during the bad chief's leadership....

He was getting calls, scary ones i'd say for his family and whoever it was had the cell phone numbers of him and his wife, etc. To me, the first likelihood there is law enforcement. We KNOW they didn't want Gilbert investigated and it STILL seems to be that way. I didn't even go to the killer with the first likelihood, I went to he is keeping the interest in the Gilbert case and her family is as well (what is left of the family) and who else would have access to cell phone numbers, etc....

Now could it be the killer calling? Well sure. If he was some tech genius or had connections in LE to get these numbers, etc...

I think Crybaby is a killer and the arrest is probably right but I think there is still a whole lot of spin control going on as to other things...

It isn't quite comparable but think of Murdaugh... One can't rat on the other to save himself because the other has as bad on them....

Something is wrong here. I think this new admin is trying to take care of part but they won't touch the other part or real part of it all. I don't know.... Listen to that lawyer. Even when he talks of the new guy etc. he is like from what he knows, dealt with him back when, he thinks a good guy, etc. but there are things he doesn't say. What I think it is is that even a good one can only go so far because touching the other stuff is a no no.... He can't and isn't willing but an arrest was to put the other sh*t to bed... Etc.

Not sure I am saying this in a way that makes any sense but...

Soooo doing a 180 why wouldn't they have tried to interview Asa?
 
That's EXACTLY what I assumed happened all along or that they would do simultaneously at their home as they arrested him in Manhattan and then I heard this, that no they haven't talked to her at ALL.

Why is that??? That's your CHANCE. With him as well, when first arrested and surprised.

All his searches and their arresting likely before they planned, was it because of another possible impending attack or was it because he and his wife were becoming aware they were onto him? I include her in this remark BECAUSE of the fact they didn't try to interview or interrogate her or the kids....

This came from Grizzly and I should have linked it and given the time in the video but never once have I known her to put something out that was false and if unknown she says so, this was a fact I believe. It came from something she likely named. I am so overloaded and tired but I wouldn't have shared it if not pretty certain it is the case.

Even in our "small" case (not small but huge to us as you know but not nationally known of course), it was so hard to hold in the feelings but we were constantly advised he hadn't lawyered up and other reasons to share with no one that they knew he did it so that he would keep talking to them if they requested, for one reason.

I bring this up because as we all know it is their maybe one chance to do that with HIM AND family.

And she lawyered up pretty fast and filed for divorce. I honestly thought that was likely due to their advice.

I've been on about her on here and I am not sure what my issue is with her but I just don't like something about it all. It isn't like we know much but something just doesn't sit right. I feel the same with Allen's wife in Delphi but in that one we haven't heard from her at all. And maybe that's part of it with both of them. Whether they think their husbands innocent or guilty, THEY say nothing about the poor families or victims. This one though does and has talked about her woes and damages and has went on about what she has had to suffer. She's alive though. They aren't.

I was trying to be fair but it is hard to understand. I understand it was a whammy (if it was unknown to her) but along with that would come a whammy about what these families must then feel or have dealt with all these years. She could say I don't think he did this but regardless, I can't even imagine what they are going through and I sure hope the perp is caught and slayed, but it isn't my husband. Or is. What DOES she believe? Or was she part?
How did they determine the hair on/inside the burlap was hers, I wonder? How could they have identified that without her knowledge? Is it likely she and the daughter knew the arrest was going to happen and had cooperated with LE before the arrest?
 
How did they determine the hair on/inside the burlap was hers, I wonder? How could they have identified that without her knowledge? Is it likely she and the daughter knew the arrest was going to happen and had cooperated with LE before the arrest?
That's what I would have guessed until now with hearing they haven't even talked to her/interviewed her/interrogated her. That of course they sat her down just before arrest or something but it doesn't sound like it. Or maybe they did but she refused to say anything. Doesn't sound like they did any such thing though.

I'd have to guess a family member did one of those genealogy things, no? And/or they pulled a garbage item of hers like they did of his? I don't know.

I need to go back and pinpoint and share where Grizzly said this. I am taking it as fact and since I've now said a lot in response to it, it had better be fact. I have little time but I will try. Today is a day to accomplish not nearly enough but spend a lot of hours to take care of one little thing and no time for what I need to (more things) yet again and then right back to work tomorrow for another long stretch.
 
Here it is. Seven minutes in. Just prior is the mention of the gofund me. She has her own attorney and the adult kids have their own attorney... She has not been interviewed.

Also rumored another press conference is coming and thinks it is about ID of Peaches, the baby and the Asian male. Heard that before elsewhere. Of course this comes from the same ones that thought he last PC would be about that and were surprised to find out it was about Vergata. (Law and Crime and their guests are the source)

Much of this is coming from Law and Crime and the recent guests on the show. Seems to be fact but then they have had egg on their faces before.. It was their guests who said as much though.

 
To be more clear, Asa's attorney was on Law and Crime, not to be confused with the other one I was talking of and the guests re the Asian male, Peaches, etc. He said she has not been interviewed. In my last post I was talking of two different things but the source on both was Law and Crime. Different guests. Different times.
 
So I won't get time but if someone has the time, apparently this came from Asa's attorney who was on Law and Crime per Grizzly. If someone can find that or has seen it, and can link it, that would be great.
 
So they knew he had bought another burner phone and they managed to crack it and get into it and see his current searches, etc. before his arrest...

I don't think this man was going dormant at 59 despite what experts say or at least he wasn't about to be a well behaved moral individual.... Also in the same episode of Grizzly and I believe comes from the probable cause affidavit. There is still so much to unpack here and go back to even. And that's just with what is known to us, not even close to what investigators likely know.
 
I think on an entirely different note it also bears mentioning that the talk was rampant and still is that that the police chief who went to prison and who had things stolen from his car had snuff video or so it is said. I KNEW I thought of snuff from somewhere but couldn't remember the details but just recall thinking it involved a group and LE, etc. is what stuck in my head. I also related Gilbert to it just because it all revolved around and came out around that case and lack of investigation.

I'm not saying it relates to Crybaby necessarily but there's a whole lot of dirty sh*t here and people that I doubt has been entirely cleaned up by a long shot.

And they still REFUSE to give satisfactory answers on Gilbert or do a reopening.
 

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