I wonder if he had them all written down somewhere with names and souvenirs and I also wonder if he ever used regulars more than once. It is strange none have come forward except for those few found by Ray.
Well somewhere recently I read and I think it was in a link you provided in the last few days that as we know they have taken to interviewing sex workers in jail and so on, we've heard that before, but it also said such has yielded some useful tips or something like that. I can only imagine that means in relation to CB and their experiences with him or knowledge of him or others with him, etc.
We know it is not going to be a priority or even moral need of sex workers to feel they should go to the cops with info OR to trust them. However with the police going to them particularly if they are NOT under threat or will be in trouble themselves may yield something and I'm sure that's something none of them were ever doing over the last decades.
If there's certain "groups" or types that just don't want to be in the middle of something and particularly anything involving LE or appearing in court, etc. and one expects them to care and want to, I would say it would be very common to NOT want that re sex workers and to prefer to stay under the radar with their lives when it comes to that kind of ting.
On the other hand maybe CB was never with many that they didn't end up dead. Maybe he needed a once, twice or three times a year fix and killed them and would be good for a few months...
Maybe he NEVER had a complete sexual act and then just paid the woman and dropped her back off. Maybe he has bodies all over the U.S.
I don't know but I don't think it ath odd the ones that went to Ray and there's a real chance he's heard from a lot more but most didnt' have the corroborating details the ones he made the key ones did. We also have to remember no one knew who the killer was so any sex worker coming forward about any and all John's that scared them is just not going to happen. And again since he's been identified it seems even the ones they are talking to in the jails, prisons, etc. are yielding some info. So....?
I think there's a good chance he kept some info. We sure know he KNEW the names of some and bothered their families. Knew their real names. Perhaps only by cops naming victims in some cases, have we looked at that? Didn't he have one girls' phone in one case at least and that's how he had her contacts? Of course as we recently discussed the way older cases if he was responsible, the girls probably did not have cell phones. In some cases it seems he wanted them to leave them home. Wasn't that the case in Costello? Not sure but seems like it.
Did you ever know about the Long Island Lolita case? LI has certainly had its sex sh*t and men looking for it all and underaged to boot and so on. Well she had a pager so even way back there still were things like that to know when needed and where and so on or to then stop and call. No need to go into that case and she's long since married and never gotten into trouble again and so on. My point is about the pager, I'd have to look but pretty sure that was the 80s.
Kind of a sidetrack but I guess what I mean is he called friends and family to torment, he at least with the known ones had his ritual with burlap and with those he also had a bit of a dumping ground/area. Of course we don't know if he is responsible for all the others but I feel he well could be. I'm saying this because yes I believe he could keep souvenirs, not sure about names, perhaps but does he know all their names? Most don't advertise using their real name and some are unidentified (if he is the one responsible for say Peaches and Karen was only recently IDd. He may well have known who she was though if the cop knew who she was from knowing she was in jail. I have to wonder about that guy. Did CB actually have friends who knew... I mean he just put it all down to they were "playing a game" and then if it was Karen she ends up dead. He brought here there to CB, etc. Things to ponder there...
There is absolutely nothing that's a game with a woman running around outside naked in February in NY.
As far as regulars, that's a hard one to know too. I SUPPOSE he saw some that didn't end up in murder, I mean we know he swung with Asa at a club supposedly and he had sex with a cop at their home and that man left alive. But what WAS his regular thing? Even say the entire house and Vergata thing is false, which I don't believe it is but say it is, there is plenty showing CB wasn't only into women like those dead here. He searched Asians, he searched was it 9 or `10 year old blonde girls doing or having whatever and so on. I mean that's CHILD PEDO/PORN. And something that's never been said and I'm not saying it is the case but he had children in his own home and one was not his. And a daughter who apparently never launched, worked with dad and still lived at home in that small house. They all did through all the years these murders occurred from what we know, through all his years of escorts, and more. I mean that just blows the mind. At least it does for me. I mean how could even the kids not know some things or have been right there? I don't mean just the murders I mean dad's penchant for sex workers, and just a lot more. A what had to be odd relationship with mom and if swinging was true then there's all that.
WAndering but I do think there's a great chance of souvenirs and a record or just some other things, not sure what... Am I mixing up cases or was there anything about a storage unit in this one...? I dont' think so but then for some reason it rings a slight bell. I could be way wrong...
I suspect LE has things we don't know of too as far as others calling or stating once they saw CB, they recognized him from something. We know there are cases in is it SC where family or friends think for sure it was him with her mother, etc. I can only guess there's been some NY calls and just even not big info called in too of even someone who knew him and some conversation they had or who knows. My worry is IS LE and the prosecutor taking these things in and SERIOUSLY looking at them? I'd sure hope so. And ruling in or out?
I think it would be WISE to either give some corroboration to the Vergata swinging story or not. Is the cop denying it all and denying he ever dated this woman? Or has he confirmed at least that? Etc. They won't though. Maybe ever....
Apparently she and he haven't stayed in touch? As in she never called him first and said hey, I know it was a long time ago and we don't talk any more but do you remember that time we went to a couple's house and picked up that woman? Did she do that first? Nothing seems to indicate that. I guess though it was a long time ago and both went on with their lives but still I'd maybe try to reach out in a case like that.
Don't know what all she did in those days but she's a nurse now and he was a cop, narcotics right, at least was?
I wonder when ANYTHING MORE will come here as to info in the cases charged or investigation of all the others and these stories and so on? I worry with the NY mess of politics running even justice that this will ever go any further as to more cases or proving it can or can't be him and so on.
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