Epstein, Maxwell et al: exposed in child sex trafficking

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Do we have a Jefferey Epstein thread?

 
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It makes me wonder if she/they want someone outed... Or the only thing else I can figure is they feel it shows a situation like maybe a dinner party or gathering that they feel shows important people but normal behavior...?
I think you could be right. Like the Guggenheim woman and the Interlochen Principal maybe and other high ups just at a regular reception perhaps.
 
Well then I don't know who they would be protecting. Who else could it be? Head of the FBI?
Politicians from here or another country, heads of agencies like you said and even if the pope, etc. have been mentioned, it's far different to see them on video and what they may be doing and who they may be around...? And even why? And if it was anyone who actually investigated the case that would be a big uproar... Maybe someone important attended with another woman...

I guess it proves their point, my speculating, if they seal this, all are going to think it shows something they don't want the public to know...
 
The video is apparently a FBI walkthrough. Also, Epstein's massage table has been brought into the courtroom and set up. I wonder if the dildos and massage vibrators will be brought in too. Maybe they will just be photos.

 
Some of the pictures up thread show Epstein's personal assistant. In this article it says she was given immunity - four people altogether were given immunity but I have not found out who the others were.

 
In the absence of a description of the three massages a day, we cannot determine what they each were. If he was cleaning dildos three times a day , he would have said that. All massages would use oils which would require clean up after anyway. Worst case scenario they were all sexual. Best case scenario foot massages. My opinion of course.
Virginia Giuffre's deposition in 2016 explained on Federal record (page 141) that a 'massage' was always erotic & her job was understood to mean that she had to please both Epstein & Maxwell sexually.

*(I'm not linking to her deposition, it's been made public & is no longer under seal by the US Federal Court.)
 
He testified that was in Maxwell's bedroom though, I think. Regarding the massages, he said he did not know what went on.
He also testified that some of the sex toys were placed in her closet after being cleaned

"He also said he returned some of those sex toys to a wicker basket in the closet in Maxwell's bedroom, recognizing that they belonged there because of when he cleaned up her room over the normal course of his duties"
 
I'm pretty sure it was stated they shared a bedroom but I assume she also had her own with her own closet, etc. Isn't that generally the way of the "rich" and they sure liked to play Lord and Master the way it sounds. I shake my head at this:

"It got so ridiculous at the end of my stay, okay?" Alessi said in that deposition. "That Mr. Epstein, instead of talking to me that he wants a cup of coffee, he will call the office; the office would type it; they would send it to me, 'Jeffrey wants a cup of coffee,' or 'Jeffrey wants an orange juice out by the pool.'"
 
Profiling even is live with a woman on who knows a lot about Maxwell, her father and more. I didn't catch the beginning to know who it is. Pretty interesting.
 
I gather her father was watched by Hoover's FBI etc. Hoover was convinced he was a communist/spy. The woman authored a book or so it sounds.
 
She feels this is a LOT bigger than just what we have seen so far i.e., the trafficking, etc. group... I tend to agree with all of the hints surrounding this case and Epstein and Maxwell, etc. This can always be watched after it is over as well.

 
He also testified that some of the sex toys were placed in her closet after being cleaned

"He also said he returned some of those sex toys to a wicker basket in the closet in Maxwell's bedroom, recognizing that they belonged there because of when he cleaned up her room over the normal course of his duties"
Yes I know. That is why I am asking if Jane gave evidence she was sexually abused in Maxwell's bedroom. I only heard the pool room and massage room so far.
Virginia Guiffre's deposition in 2016 explained on Federal record (page 141) that a 'massage' was always erotic & her job was understood to mean that she had to please both Epstein & Maxwell sexually.

*(I'm not linking to her deposition, it's been made public & is no longer under seal by the US Federal Court.)
Is she giving evidence in this trial?
 
I think Annie Farmer, as the only victim who is not testifying anonymously, may be the next to give evidence so am posting this as background.


Maria K. Farmer (born 1969) is an American visual artist known for providing the first criminal complaint to law enforcement, to the New York City Police Department and to the FBI, in 1996 about the conduct of financierand convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.[2][3]Farmer, a figurative painter, had described her and her sister Annie's experiences of sexual misconduct from Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to a journalist at Vanity Fair in 2002 but the publication refrained from including it in their accounts.


Early life and education​

Farmer was born in 1969 or 1970 in Paducah, Kentucky to Frank Farmer and Janice Swain.[4][5][6] She has two younger brothers and two younger sisters.[4][5] The family lived for a time in Phoenix, Arizona.[7] From an early age, she had a set intention to become an artist.[8]

Farmer attended Santa Clara University and graduated in 1992.[9] She relocated to New York City in 1993 to study at the New York Academy of Art.[4][10] She earned her master's degree from the Academy in 1995.[11][12] Farmer attended a post-graduate workshop at the Santa Fe Art Institute in 1995.[11]


Career​

Farmer is a visual artist who primarily makes paintings and pastel drawings of individual people or groups of people. In the mid 1990s, while Farmer was in graduate school, she reported selling her artwork for $20,000 directly from her studio.[2] At her graduate exhibition in 1995, the school's dean, Eileen Guggenheim, introduced Farmer to both Jeffrey Epstein, who served as a board member at the Academy from 1987 to 1994, and to his companion Ghislaine Maxwell.[11]Although Farmer had already sold her painting for $12,000 to a German buyer, Epstein reportedly wanted to buy it at the reception for half price and Guggenheim urged Farmer to cut him a deal.[11] Prior to the introduction, Farmer was aware that Epstein regularly attended the Academy's events and frequently observed art students working in their studios.[11] The pair were known at the school to be important art patrons.[2]

In the summer of 1995, Farmer was one of four artists chosen to attend an all-expenses-paid trip to Santa Fe.[13] Several of the artists confirmed that they attended a dinner party, hosted by Epstein and Maxwell with Guggenheim, that was designed to test the artists boundaries within a bizarre and competitive environment where the women were promised that one of them would be rewarded with a major commissioned artwork for Epstein's New Mexico property. However, no commission materialized.[13]

Back in New York, Farmer was recruited to work for Epstein, first as his art advisor, where she oversaw the acquisition of artwork by Chuck Bowdish and Damian Loeb for Epstein's collection.[11] She continued to work for Epstein at the front desk of his New York mansion, signing in "tradesmen, decorators, and friends".[14][4] She observed a large number of young girls coming and going from the house, and stated that Maxwell would leave on frequent missions to recruit girls for Epstein.[14] She described Epstein showing her the security room at his New York mansionthat was equipped with extensive video surveillance devices focused on the beds and toilets in the property.[15] Farmer reportedly saw lawyer Alan Dershowitz regularly visiting Epstein's New York home.[16]

Wexner artist residency​

In the summer of 1996, Farmer was commissioned to create two artworks for the film set of As Good as It Gets.[17] At the time, Farmer was living in a small walk-up apartment in Greenwich Village.[17] Epstein offered her more space to create the artwork as an artist-in-residence[18] at a (10,600 sq. ft.) guest home on Les Wexner's property in New Albany, Ohio. In May 1996, Farmer traveled to the Wexner property in Ohio in a rental truck with her art materials and supplies.[17] The property was spacious but Farmer was disturbed to learn after arrival that the home was guarded by Wexner's armed security personnel and she was required to phone Wexner's wife, Abigail Wexner, for permission to leave the home or property.[19][17]

Farmer stated, in an affidavit filed in support of a defamation lawsuit brought by Virginia Giuffre against Alan Dershowitz, that Epstein and Maxwell came to the property in Ohio and sexually assaulted her.[16] She managed to escape into another part of the house and barricaded herself inside by pushing furniture up against the door.[2] She contacted[how?]members of her family, her mentor artist Eric Fischl,[20] and reached out to authorities.[2]Security guards on the property told her that she could not leave and she was held against her will for 12 hours.[12][21] Farmer was eventually able to depart the scene when her father arrived, after driving from Kentucky to Ohio, to pick her up.[4]

Later that summer, Farmer learned that her younger sister Annie had also been assaulted by Epstein when Annie had visited him at his Zorro Ranch in New Mexico in April 1996.[22][17]In a lawsuit filed in 2019 against Epstein's estate, Annie Farmer stated that Epstein had groped, harassed, and crawled into bed with her in New Mexico,[22] whereas Maxwell had given her an inappropriate topless massage.[17]

Farmer called the New York City Police Department and the FBI on August 26, 1996 and reported the assault.[2] The authorities did not take action regarding the assault.[23]The NYPD did make a report about the property theft of Farmer's artwork by Maxwell and Epstein.[2]

In 2002, Farmer, her sister, and her mother also shared their stories with journalist Vicky Ward, then at Vanity Fair, who was writing a profile on Epstein.[24] Despite the Farmer sisters and their mother giving voice to the misconduct, their mention was excluded from the final story by then-editor Graydon Carter.[16][25] NPR and the New York Timesreported that Carter had been pressured by Epstein at the time of publication to omit mention of the Farmer sisters;[4] Carter's residence and the Vanity Fair office had each received ominous signals (a bullet and a cat's head) at times corresponding to when they might have further investigated Epstein.[24]

The art collector Stuart Pivar confirmed that he learned of Farmer's experience shortly after it occurred.[26] Artist Eric Fischl also corroborated Farmer's account and confirmed being contacted by her.[4] Maxwell threatened Farmer's life repeatedly after the event in an effort to enforce her silence.[18]Following the Vanity Fair profile on Epstein in which editors decided not to publish Farmer's account, she has stated that the threats intensified, leading her to leave the New York art world.[4]

Farmer has stated that she received multiple direct threats from Maxwell and Epstein, who also called her clients and contacts in the art world in an effort to destroy her credibility.[27]She stated: “I was terrified of Maxwell and Epstein and I moved a number of times to try to hide from them.”[27] After enduring persistent threats, Farmer changed her name and moved first to North Carolina.[28] For 24 years, she quietly sold antiques and restored houses in the American Southeast, in an effort to stay under the radar.[8]

The FBI reappeared in 2006 at Farmer's door to question her just before Epstein's arrest for his first criminal prosecution, but little came of the matter.[18] Farmer was contacted once more in 2016, this time by lawyers who were working with Virginia Giuffre.[3] Still in hiding, Farmer recounted her experiences with Epstein and Maxwell to Stanley Pottinger and Bradley Edwards to assist in a better understanding of the defendants' patterns over time.[3]

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Note: Les Wexner, US billionaire, owner of L Brands including Victoria Secrets.

 
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So it looks like the NYPD and the FBI had Epstein on their radar in '96 and did nothing. Now we are back in NY twenty five years later.

So who was President in '96 and what was going on at the time? Well that was President Clinton and the Monica Lewinsky internship of 95/96. Top down sexual abuse (my opinion only of course.)

Here is a reminder of President Clinton's view on sexual abuse from Wiki.

Clinton stated, "I did have a relationship with Miss Lewinsky that was not appropriate",[23] but he denied committing perjury because, according to Clinton, the legal definition of oral sex was not encompassed by "sex" per se.[25] In addition, he relied on the definition of "sexual relations" as proposed by the prosecution and agreed by the defense and by Judge Susan Webber Wright, who was hearing the Paula Jones case. Clinton claimed that certain acts were performed on him, not by him, and therefore he did not engage in sexual relations. Lewinsky's testimony to the Starr Commission, however, contradicted Clinton's claim of being totally passive in their encounters.
 
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This link explains who the executives of the Epstein estate are and how they are (were) selling assets to enable compensation to be paid. The article states that the NY property sold in March for $50 million and was purchased in '96 (from the Victoria Secrets owner) for $20 million. The Palm Beach property is also up for sale.


Palm Beach property has been sold also.
 
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I gather her father was watched by Hoover's FBI etc. Hoover was convinced he was a communist/spy. The woman authored a book or so it sounds.
He was a Labour MP who purchased Pergamon Press and the Daily Mirror. He was in direct competition with Murdoch to try and become the biggest media mogul at the time. Ultimately he failed, robbed the Mirror pension fund and died when he fell off his yacht in the middle of the night leaving his sons to carry the can. They both got off. He was originally from Czechoslavakia and came to Britain when he was 16. He lied about his age to join up and he took part in the DDay invasion apparently.

Everyone in Britain knew who he was. Here is a link.

 
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Yes I know. That is why I am asking if Jane gave evidence she was sexually abused in Maxwell's bedroom. I only heard the pool room and massage room so far.

Is she giving evidence in this trial?

On her first day of testimony on Tuesday, “Jane” claimed that Maxwell fondled her breast. She also said that Epstein masturbated on her, subjected her to “painful” abuse with sex toys, and forced her to perform various sex acts. She also testified that an “orgy” took place on multiple occasions with Maxwell, Epstein and others in the massage room.

Virginia Giuffre is not a defendant in the criminal case against Maxwell.
 

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