Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/nation-world/national/article268771952.html

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.

 

[Kimster]

Over a month's delay. Well now that speedy trial has been waived, I'm sure we will see the usual constant delays.

I truly think a sold reason and proof should have to be given for court delays. Seriously.

This defendant is going to file motions until the cows come home. Get used to it.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

This defendant is going to file motions until the cows come home. Get used to it.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This defendant is going to file motions until the cows come home. Get used to it.

Oh no doubt. Don't they all? Or most.

I'm talking though of whoever and whatever delayed the scheduled sealed and open hearings and the delays with something already scheduled. Not the multitude of motions they will file. I know it is too much to expect they actually proceed on time though. Just about NEVER happens in almost any case.

 

[Kimster]

Oh no doubt. Don't they all? Or most.

I'm talking though of whoever and whatever delayed the scheduled sealed and open hearings and the delays with something already scheduled. Not the multitude of motions they will file. I know it is too much to expect they actually proceed on time though. Just about NEVER happens in almost any case.

I predict that in this case, we’re gonna see more motions than normal. I think he’s going to try every motion he can come up with just to see what works and what doesn’t.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Don't know if I will get a chance to watch but for anyone who, like me, has not seen the 48 hours special on this case, here it is. 40 some minutes long, sharing for those who didn't have access when on TV.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Kohberger hearing date set for defense to dismiss indictment

An October 26 hearing has been scheduled for University of Idaho killing suspect Bryan Kohberger, according to a new court document.

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Kohberger hearing date set for defense to dismiss indictment​

An October hearing has been scheduled for University of Idaho killings suspect Bryan Kohberger, according to a court document.

The hearing is for the Kohberger defense team’s motion to dismiss the indictment against him. Latah County District Judge John Judge reset the hearing to begin Oct. 26.

Kohberger’s trial was initially scheduled to begin Oct. 2, but he waived his right to a speedy trial in August. As a result, his trial date has been postponed.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Kohberger hearing date set for defense to dismiss indictment

An October 26 hearing has been scheduled for University of Idaho killing suspect Bryan Kohberger, according to a new court document.

www.newsnationnow.com

Kohberger hearing date set for defense to dismiss indictment​

An October hearing has been scheduled for University of Idaho killings suspect Bryan Kohberger, according to a court document.

The hearing is for the Kohberger defense team’s motion to dismiss the indictment against him. Latah County District Judge John Judge reset the hearing to begin Oct. 26.

Kohberger’s trial was initially scheduled to begin Oct. 2, but he waived his right to a speedy trial in August. As a result, his trial date has been postponed.

Dismissal? Fat chance imo. Better start the b.s. and lay the appeal grounds.

This atty isn't near making the splash the Delphi ones are with their colorful tale that they maddeningly named names and gruesome details in. For WHAT reason was that necessary?

Or the splash Murdaugh attys. have made.

Or the hype the LISK thing and his wife and the guns and etc. and her attorneys have made.

Hey Brian, your attorney ain't keeping up with the other defense attorneys these days..

My heart bleeds for the victims in all of these cases having to suffer this stuff on top of the devastation they've already had.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Judge denies Bryan Kohberger's request to delay case

MOSCOW, Idaho. - Idaho District Judge John Judge denied a motion to pause the case of Bryan Kohberger.

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Judge denies Bryan Kohberger's request to delay case​

Idaho District Judge John Judge denied a motion to pause the case of Bryan Kohberger.

Court documents show the request was denied because it was too premature. The court, Kohberger and his counsel agreed that pausing the case would allow his defense team enough time to review grand jury records. Then, his team will decide if they want to file another motion to put the trial on hold.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Judge denies Bryan Kohberger's request to delay case

MOSCOW, Idaho. - Idaho District Judge John Judge denied a motion to pause the case of Bryan Kohberger.

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Judge denies Bryan Kohberger's request to delay case​

Idaho District Judge John Judge denied a motion to pause the case of Bryan Kohberger.

Court documents show the request was denied because it was too premature. The court, Kohberger and his counsel agreed that pausing the case would allow his defense team enough time to review grand jury records. Then, his team will decide if they want to file another motion to put the trial on hold.

I read this post yesterday and reread it again today. Makes no sense at all. Not your post but what you clip and share from it.

Pausing the case or the trial? Big difference. Judge denies it but then agrees pausing would allow time for defense to review GJ records and then will decide if they want another motion to put trial on hold? HUH? They paused or didn't?? Are they saying they are pausing SOMETHING like the case itself and depending the trial itself can be delayed later if necessary? It is clear as mud.

Funny since defense until recently wanted a speedy trial and now want delays, pauses and anything but speed.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

More details on the latest ruling.

Judge Denies Bryan Kohberger’s Motion to Pause Murder Case

The judge presiding over Bryan Kohberger’s murder trial has denied a motion to pause the case over defense concerns about the grand jury process. Judge John Judge also withdrew an earlier order adding 37 days to the speedy trial clock, although that decision is moot since Kohberger waived his...

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The judge presiding over Bryan Kohberger’s murder trial has denied a motion to pause the case over defense concerns about the grand jury process.

Judge John Judge also withdrew an earlier order adding 37 days to the speedy trial clock, although that decision is moot since Kohberger waived his right to a speedy trial on August 23.

“As articulated on the record, the issues raised in Kohberger’s Second Motion to Stay Proceedings do not constitute a substantial failure to comply with the procedures for selecting a grand jury,” Judge wrote in his order. “The issues raised either fall outside the purview of Idaho Code Title 2, Chapter 2, jury selection and service, or are typical problems seen routinely in selecting juries (i.e., individuals called for jury duty failing to appear thereby reducing the number of potential jurors in the jury pool).”

When Kohberger waived his right to a speedy trial, the planned October 2 start date for the trial was vacated. A new trial date has not been set, although Judge has ordered a hearing on October 26 for a defense motion to dismiss the grand jury indictment.

The defense filed a 109-page motion claiming the grand jury was biased, given inadmissable evidence, and not given sufficient evidence and that the prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence. The hearing on that motion will be closed to the public.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Info from the first article is reportedly "made up". Steve Goncalves denies speaking to this reporter.
Not sure who to believe about that, since he apparently talks to everyone else. But also not sure I believe the info / reporter. So basically a whole lot of nothing.

Bryan Kohberger trial: Survivors of Idaho murders were awake, texting during rampage, report says

Two surviving housemates in an off-campus University of Idaho rental home in Moscow, Idaho, were awake and texting each other during a massacre that left four of their friends dead last November, according to a new report.

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Bryan Kohberger trial: Survivors of Idaho murders were awake, texting during rampage, report says​

Two surviving housemates in an off-campus University of Idaho rental home in Moscow, Idaho, were awake and texting each other during a massacre that left four of their friends dead last November, according to a new report.

"Steve had been told that the two survivors allegedly had not only been awake while the killings had taken place but that they had heard everything," the report states. "More astonishingly, his grand-jury sources alleged that the two girls had been texting one another as the murderer methodically went from one room to the next."

The revelation, from a lengthy Air Mail story is attributed to grand jurors on the case, who allegedly leaked the information to Goncalves' father, although the reporter concedes that neither Goncalves nor his attorney agreed to comment.

The court has issued a restrictive gag order on the case. And neither Steve Goncalves nor his attorney immediately responded to questions from Fox News Digital about the report's claims – however the family in a statement called the claims a "very poor attempt at getting attention" and "obviously fictional."

Investigative reporter accused of spreading falsehoods in University of Idaho murder series

MOSCOW, Idaho - The father of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students murdered last November, accused an investigative journalist of spreading falsehoods in a series of

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Investigative reporter accused of spreading falsehoods in University of Idaho murder series​

The father of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students murdered last November, accused an investigative journalist of spreading falsehoods in a series of TV appearances.

In a digital publication series, "The Eyes of a Killer," Howard Blum reports on the Moscow Murders. He claims that Steve Goncalves was conducting his own investigation into the murders in conjunction with the official investigation conducted by law enforcement, Shannon Gray, the attorney for the Goncalves family, said. He went on to say that Blum accuses Goncalves of taking liberties with the case, potentially jeopardizing Byran Kohberger's case.

In a statement from the Goncalves family lawyer, Steve Goncalves denounced much of what Blum states in his publications, saying Blum is profiting from his dead daughter and his family's grief.

"I just want to make it very clear to the public that we have not spoken to Mr. Blum about the death of our daughter. . . This is nothing more than grandstanding and a very, very poor attempt at getting attention. This piece is obviously fictional but written in poor taste. The Goncalves Family would ask that everyone please respect the victims of this tragedy and continue to support trustworthy journalism," Goncalves said in a statement to NonStop Local.

Blum has contacted the Goncalves family for an interview, which they say they have declined multiple times.

 

[Kimster]

There's been a TON of unsubstantiated rumors in this case. I take reports with a grain of salt more in this case than in any other.

 

[Guess Who]

Info from the first article is reportedly "made up". Steve Goncalves denies speaking to this reporter.
Not sure who to believe about that, since he apparently talks to everyone else. But also not sure I believe the info / reporter. So basically a whole lot of nothing.

Bryan Kohberger trial: Survivors of Idaho murders were awake, texting during rampage, report says

Two surviving housemates in an off-campus University of Idaho rental home in Moscow, Idaho, were awake and texting each other during a massacre that left four of their friends dead last November, according to a new report.

www.fox5dc.com

Bryan Kohberger trial: Survivors of Idaho murders were awake, texting during rampage, report says​

Two surviving housemates in an off-campus University of Idaho rental home in Moscow, Idaho, were awake and texting each other during a massacre that left four of their friends dead last November, according to a new report.

"Steve had been told that the two survivors allegedly had not only been awake while the killings had taken place but that they had heard everything," the report states. "More astonishingly, his grand-jury sources alleged that the two girls had been texting one another as the murderer methodically went from one room to the next."

The revelation, from a lengthy Air Mail story is attributed to grand jurors on the case, who allegedly leaked the information to Goncalves' father, although the reporter concedes that neither Goncalves nor his attorney agreed to comment.

The court has issued a restrictive gag order on the case. And neither Steve Goncalves nor his attorney immediately responded to questions from Fox News Digital about the report's claims – however the family in a statement called the claims a "very poor attempt at getting attention" and "obviously fictional."

Investigative reporter accused of spreading falsehoods in University of Idaho murder series

MOSCOW, Idaho - The father of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students murdered last November, accused an investigative journalist of spreading falsehoods in a series of

www.khq.com

Investigative reporter accused of spreading falsehoods in University of Idaho murder series​

The father of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students murdered last November, accused an investigative journalist of spreading falsehoods in a series of TV appearances.

In a digital publication series, "The Eyes of a Killer," Howard Blum reports on the Moscow Murders. He claims that Steve Goncalves was conducting his own investigation into the murders in conjunction with the official investigation conducted by law enforcement, Shannon Gray, the attorney for the Goncalves family, said. He went on to say that Blum accuses Goncalves of taking liberties with the case, potentially jeopardizing Byran Kohberger's case.

In a statement from the Goncalves family lawyer, Steve Goncalves denounced much of what Blum states in his publications, saying Blum is profiting from his dead daughter and his family's grief.

"I just want to make it very clear to the public that we have not spoken to Mr. Blum about the death of our daughter. . . This is nothing more than grandstanding and a very, very poor attempt at getting attention. This piece is obviously fictional but written in poor taste. The Goncalves Family would ask that everyone please respect the victims of this tragedy and continue to support trustworthy journalism," Goncalves said in a statement to NonStop Local.

Blum has contacted the Goncalves family for an interview, which they say they have declined multiple times.

I guess both things can be true though. The reporter might be spreading falsehood and the accusation of the dad jeopardizing the case can also be true. They can also both be false,but I'm leaning to a piece of the truth in both.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

I guess both things can be true though. The reporter might be spreading falsehood and the accusation of the dad jeopardizing the case can also be true. They can also both be false,but I'm leaning to a piece of the truth in both.

He’s also been told SO. MANY. TIMES. to stop talking to reporters and jeopardizing the case. So he’s probably going to deny talking to everyone at this point.

 

[Guess Who]

He’s also been told SO. MANY. TIMES. to stop talking to reporters and jeopardizing the case. So he’s probably going to deny talking to everyone at this point.

and he's why I am leaning to both possibly being true. That and I have personally been involved with the media making up stories.

 

[RoundPeg]

Info from the first article is reportedly "made up". Steve Goncalves denies speaking to this reporter.
Not sure who to believe about that, since he apparently talks to everyone else. But also not sure I believe the info / reporter. So basically a whole lot of nothing.

Bryan Kohberger trial: Survivors of Idaho murders were awake, texting during rampage, report says

Two surviving housemates in an off-campus University of Idaho rental home in Moscow, Idaho, were awake and texting each other during a massacre that left four of their friends dead last November, according to a new report.

www.fox5dc.com

Bryan Kohberger trial: Survivors of Idaho murders were awake, texting during rampage, report says​

Two surviving housemates in an off-campus University of Idaho rental home in Moscow, Idaho, were awake and texting each other during a massacre that left four of their friends dead last November, according to a new report.

"Steve had been told that the two survivors allegedly had not only been awake while the killings had taken place but that they had heard everything," the report states. "More astonishingly, his grand-jury sources alleged that the two girls had been texting one another as the murderer methodically went from one room to the next."

The revelation, from a lengthy Air Mail story is attributed to grand jurors on the case, who allegedly leaked the information to Goncalves' father, although the reporter concedes that neither Goncalves nor his attorney agreed to comment.

The court has issued a restrictive gag order on the case. And neither Steve Goncalves nor his attorney immediately responded to questions from Fox News Digital about the report's claims – however the family in a statement called the claims a "very poor attempt at getting attention" and "obviously fictional."

Investigative reporter accused of spreading falsehoods in University of Idaho murder series

MOSCOW, Idaho - The father of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students murdered last November, accused an investigative journalist of spreading falsehoods in a series of

www.khq.com

Investigative reporter accused of spreading falsehoods in University of Idaho murder series​

The father of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the four University of Idaho students murdered last November, accused an investigative journalist of spreading falsehoods in a series of TV appearances.

In a digital publication series, "The Eyes of a Killer," Howard Blum reports on the Moscow Murders. He claims that Steve Goncalves was conducting his own investigation into the murders in conjunction with the official investigation conducted by law enforcement, Shannon Gray, the attorney for the Goncalves family, said. He went on to say that Blum accuses Goncalves of taking liberties with the case, potentially jeopardizing Byran Kohberger's case.

In a statement from the Goncalves family lawyer, Steve Goncalves denounced much of what Blum states in his publications, saying Blum is profiting from his dead daughter and his family's grief.

"I just want to make it very clear to the public that we have not spoken to Mr. Blum about the death of our daughter. . . This is nothing more than grandstanding and a very, very poor attempt at getting attention. This piece is obviously fictional but written in poor taste. The Goncalves Family would ask that everyone please respect the victims of this tragedy and continue to support trustworthy journalism," Goncalves said in a statement to NonStop Local.

Blum has contacted the Goncalves family for an interview, which they say they have declined multiple times.

Steve Goncalves WAS conducting his own investigation. That's no secret.

Also, it sounds like this guy took some known facts and creatively enhanced them. Dylan DID hear noises and did text Bethany.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I get so little time and can't keep up on cases and can't claim I even barely keep up but I try but get no time to share etc.

The last thing in this one where the dad was come down on and I did as well whatever the show was Netflix, 48 hours or something I almost came back as I saw the actual footage or show to say we judged him too harshly after I watched him and mom, but never got a chance but now THIS.

I don't know what to believe here but he needs to stop. He is at minimum giving reason bad actors can say something and people will believe it OR he really did say it.

I didn't get time to share or truly catch up but I watched one last night of Harvard Lawyer Lee that was really good and informative. Personally I think the name of her show isn't one to call for likes or it sounds like someone who has an ego but she isn't anything like that, I really like her shows but only get time to check them or anything out rarely. She si worth subscribing to is what I am saying. Not a paid subscrip just a channel watching free one. It was a really good show on this with really good points but I didn't get around to linking/sharing it.

I do not know what the truth is here but it isn't hard to believe there is some truth to it since Steve has been out there from day one. It also isn't hard to believe what is being said about the two surviving roommates, it fits with all questions and things head from the start. HOWEVER, a reporter or any of us could easily play that Steve said such as STeve has went out there from day one and there have been questions and doubts about the roommates from the start.

Whatever the truth is the man needs to stop. IT may not be the same but I can identify believe me. But for most victims' families you go against or make yourself stop from going all out because you will affect the chance of justice in your case and look at what this is doing here!! I get it. I get it with Dylan Rounds mom. It isn't fair and it is a system that has nothing to do with understanding the sheer raw emotion and stifling victim families are to do. It needs work believe me. Neither side is wrong and I am talking just LE and pros side to victim family side, not defense or anything. Pros has a job to do and it isn't to babysit victims families but in the same sense they need to, they are DEVASTATED and reeling.

So I get Steve I really do to a point but not fully. I get Dylan Rounds mom AND it does need to be changed big time BUT you don't bite the hand of those handling your case. Yes it is archaic and yes it bites and not something any family typically goes through or would understand, it is a new world and not a nice one. But this man has been out there from the start. A sister and I from holding things in leaked on occasion, it was sooooooo hard and all we did was worry we'd affect justice for our loved one. I see no such concern in Steve. Oh he does backpedal but... And I can't and won't even judge what he is going through but still if he wants justice, like the system or not, he has to play the rules..

On the other hand this reporter is said to be and using this to get attention but regardless none of us have much doubt that Steve really said this or talked or had a connection to a grand jury member because of what he has done from the start...

He is fricking going to end up helping the defense!! And maybe he said nothing and talked to no one on the grand jury and this reporter is full of it and it is all lies but BECAUSE of his former going out there and his family lawyering up etc., and talking to media, it isn't a leap to believe he did say such, talk to a grand jury member or in between person etc.

Now on the note of the claim...

These roommates and for sure one have raised questions from the start. It makes the claims also here not hard to believe....That is an issue for another post which I may never get time for but it is also understandable that Steve is frustrated people don't KNOW.

Even so, he needs to stop. I get it but he needs to stop. If he didn't contribute here in a roundabout way people are still going to believe he did, I do and I think most do because he has from day one almost. He is giving the defense ammo and reporters as well...

STOP STEVE. I believe you are reeling and there is the knowledge that nothing can bring her back but don't wreck the chance for justice.

On the other hand, what kind of reporter would wreck justice and out a grand jury without naming a source? Seems like a whole lot of bs going on here...

 

[Guess Who]

I get so little time and can't keep up on cases and can't claim I even barely keep up but I try but get no time to share etc.

The last thing in this one where the dad was come down on and I did as well whatever the show was Netflix, 48 hours or something I almost came back as I saw the actual footage or show to say we judged him too harshly after I watched him and mom, but never got a chance but now THIS.

I don't know what to believe here but he needs to stop. He is at minimum giving reason bad actors can say something and people will believe it OR he really did say it.

I didn't get time to share or truly catch up but I watched one last night of Harvard Lawyer Lee that was really good and informative. Personally I think the name of her show isn't one to call for likes or it sounds like someone who has an ego but she isn't anything like that, I really like her shows but only get time to check them or anything out rarely. She si worth subscribing to is what I am saying. Not a paid subscrip just a channel watching free one. It was a really good show on this with really good points but I didn't get around to linking/sharing it.

I do not know what the truth is here but it isn't hard to believe there is some truth to it since Steve has been out there from day one. It also isn't hard to believe what is being said about the two surviving roommates, it fits with all questions and things head from the start. HOWEVER, a reporter or any of us could easily play that Steve said such as STeve has went out there from day one and there have been questions and doubts about the roommates from the start.

Whatever the truth is the man needs to stop. IT may not be the same but I can identify believe me. But for most victims' families you go against or make yourself stop from going all out because you will affect the chance of justice in your case and look at what this is doing here!! I get it. I get it with Dylan Rounds mom. It isn't fair and it is a system that has nothing to do with understanding the sheer raw emotion and stifling victim families are to do. It needs work believe me. Neither side is wrong and I am talking just LE and pros side to victim family side, not defense or anything. Pros has a job to do and it isn't to babysit victims families but in the same sense they need to, they are DEVASTATED and reeling.

So I get Steve I really do to a point but not fully. I get Dylan Rounds mom AND it does need to be changed big time BUT you don't bite the hand of those handling your case. Yes it is archaic and yes it bites and not something any family typically goes through or would understand, it is a new world and not a nice one. But this man has been out there from the start. A sister and I from holding things in leaked on occasion, it was sooooooo hard and all we did was worry we'd affect justice for our loved one. I see no such concern in Steve. Oh he does backpedal but... And I can't and won't even judge what he is going through but still if he wants justice, like the system or not, he has to play the rules..

On the other hand this reporter is said to be and using this to get attention but regardless none of us have much doubt that Steve really said this or talked or had a connection to a grand jury member because of what he has done from the start...

He is fricking going to end up helping the defense!! And maybe he said nothing and talked to no one on the grand jury and this reporter is full of it and it is all lies but BECAUSE of his former going out there and his family lawyering up etc., and talking to media, it isn't a leap to believe he did say such, talk to a grand jury member or in between person etc.

Now on the note of the claim...

These roommates and for sure one have raised questions from the start. It makes the claims also here not hard to believe....That is an issue for another post which I may never get time for but it is also understandable that Steve is frustrated people don't KNOW.

Even so, he needs to stop. I get it but he needs to stop. If he didn't contribute here in a roundabout way people are still going to believe he did, I do and I think most do because he has from day one almost. He is giving the defense ammo and reporters as well...

STOP STEVE. I believe you are reeling and there is the knowledge that nothing can bring her back but don't wreck the chance for justice.

On the other hand, what kind of reporter would wreck justice and out a grand jury without naming a source? Seems like a whole lot of bs going on here...

One easy explanation I have for the roommates not being aware of what is going on is in observing my own child that is close in age and her friends. Nearly all of them lie in bed with their headphones/earbuds on, totally absorbed in watching videos and streaming and texting with friends so they don't bother others in the household that might be sleeping or watching their own devices.

 

[GrandmaBear]

One easy explanation I have for the roommates not being aware of what is going on is in observing my own child that is close in age and her friends. Nearly all of them lie in bed with their headphones/earbuds on, totally absorbed in watching videos and streaming and texting with friends so they don't bother others in the household that might be sleeping or watching their own devices.

You have one that young yet? Didn't realize that. I know what you mean though.

However, we know Dylan came out of her room and DID hear things. The thing is these claims seem to fit with all many have wondered about... And both she and Bethany may yes have had earbuds on or been asleep even at first, hard to say at this hour of the wee morning with college kids.

There has been I feel some hidden thing in this all along. I don't know what but something. One of the girls in that house knew BK or something. Or knows more or something. Or is hiding something. Again I don't know what but they didn't call for help for HOURS...They've basically hidden and the defense tried to subpoena the one and it seemed to me they switched from preliminary hearing to grand jury (the prosecution) to avoid witnesses being questioned by defense or for some reason like that, to keep more away from their eyes and that of the public, etc... For longer anyhow from the defense...

I don't know what Steve G. is doing but he is going to destroy this case. Maybe the reporter is lying, maybe he is BUT he has created the atmosphere where the public and all can believe he DID say such things because he has said things in the past many a time. I feel for he and his family, I really do, heartfelt feel, and believe he is being Mr. Dad where he couldn't protect her he is now going to do so as well as his wife and other daughter, etc. and no one is going to shut him up or stop him BUT he ISN'T helping. Just the opposite.

I am being fair, maybe I am all wrong and he wants publicity and attention.

But to what was allegedly said or not said, I can believe it somehow with the two roommates and that's a problem. A far BIGGER problem is this has a grand juror sharing things they shouldn't be and IF that's the case, the defense is going to go after that and we can COUNT ON IT. The defense has been on about the grand jury and problems with it from the start, STEADILY.

I can't help but believe Steve did likely say this but not necessarily to the reporter. That'\s the problem, most will feel that way. The man needs to learn to keep his mouth shut, I"m sorry, if he wants justice for his daughter. Maybe that is unfair and he never said a word but again, he has said things before and been warned and he has made it where it is difficult to believe he didn't say this as well.

 

[Guess Who]

You have one that young yet? Didn't realize that. I know what you mean though.

However, we know Dylan came out of her room and DID hear things. The thing is these claims seem to fit with all many have wondered about... And both she and Bethany may yes have had earbuds on or been asleep even at first, hard to say at this hour of the wee morning with college kids.

There has been I feel some hidden thing in this all along. I don't know what but something. One of the girls in that house knew BK or something. Or knows more or something. Or is hiding something. Again I don't know what but they didn't call for help for HOURS...They've basically hidden and the defense tried to subpoena the one and it seemed to me they switched from preliminary hearing to grand jury (the prosecution) to avoid witnesses being questioned by defense or for some reason like that, to keep more away from their eyes and that of the public, etc... For longer anyhow from the defense...

I don't know what Steve G. is doing but he is going to destroy this case. Maybe the reporter is lying, maybe he is BUT he has created the atmosphere where the public and all can believe he DID say such things because he has said things in the past many a time. I feel for he and his family, I really do, heartfelt feel, and believe he is being Mr. Dad where he couldn't protect her he is now going to do so as well as his wife and other daughter, etc. and no one is going to shut him up or stop him BUT he ISN'T helping. Just the opposite.

I am being fair, maybe I am all wrong and he wants publicity and attention.

But to what was allegedly said or not said, I can believe it somehow with the two roommates and that's a problem. A far BIGGER problem is this has a grand juror sharing things they shouldn't be and IF that's the case, the defense is going to go after that and we can COUNT ON IT. The defense has been on about the grand jury and problems with it from the start, STEADILY.

I can't help but believe Steve did likely say this but not necessarily to the reporter. That'\s the problem, most will feel that way. The man needs to learn to keep his mouth shut, I"m sorry, if he wants justice for his daughter. Maybe that is unfair and he never said a word but again, he has said things before and been warned and he has made it where it is difficult to believe he didn't say this as well.

Just older, but the same mindset on nearly always with their ear buds.