Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Also, if you're on Reddit, there's a whole subreddit for this case. I haven't had time to dive in yet to see what's there but it seems pretty active.

From one of the Reddit posts, I learned about the Moscow police logs and this report:

22-M10204 Suspicious Person/Circumstance

Incident Address: E 2ND ST & S MAIN ST

MOSCOW ID 83843

Disposition: ACT

Time Reported: 14:10

Cad Comments:

A male is walking around taking down the posters with the tip line information.

Officer responded. No report.

I wonder what that's all about? Why would he be taking down the posters this early on?
 
Someone said that the second floor was Xana's room and that the other bedroom on that floor was empty. They suggest that the killer "laid in wait" in the empty spare bedroom.

YEARS ago I had a female stalker who hid in my house in my attic, of all places. She came out of my bedroom one time when I was in the living room and felt pleased that I didn't hear a thing! Creeped me out, as y'all can imagine, and I slowly distanced myself from her until she finally faded out of my life. So I know first hand that there are creepers out there!
 
From one of the Reddit posts, I learned about the Moscow police logs and this report:

22-M10204 Suspicious Person/Circumstance

Incident Address: E 2ND ST & S MAIN ST

MOSCOW ID 83843

Disposition: ACT

Time Reported: 14:10

Cad Comments:

A male is walking around taking down the posters with the tip line information.

Officer responded. No report.

I wonder what that's all about? Why would he be taking down the posters this early on?

He's the guy who did it?
 
Someone said that the second floor was Xana's room and that the other bedroom on that floor was empty. They suggest that the killer "laid in wait" in the empty spare bedroom.

YEARS ago I had a female stalker who hid in my house in my attic, of all places. She came out of my bedroom one time when I was in the living room and felt pleased that I didn't hear a thing! Creeped me out, as y'all can imagine, and I slowly distanced myself from her until she finally faded out of my life. So I know first hand that there are creepers out there!

Jim did that?
 
Another incident in Moscow. Supposedly. Sounds like police think it was unfounded or made up.

The Moscow, Idaho, community – already on edge over a week after four college students were found stabbed to death – is questioning the legitimacy of a new report about a man who chased two women before they called the police.

The Moscow Report, a local news blog, described a “reader report” from Monday evening. According to the blog, “two young women left a residence on Blaine street around 5:15 pm this evening, and went towards their car, where they spotted a man in the front seat, who proceeded to exit and chase them.”

The women then reportedly ran away and called 911, and the man left the area. According to the report, police were unable to find the man, whom the blog described as being “an overweight white male in a yellow shirt with dirty blonde to brown hair, and a scruffy beard.”

The Moscow Police Department said later that night that officers had investigated the incident “and determined there was no crime and the incident was unfounded.”

In a press release disseminated on Tuesday, police received a call about “suspicious activity” just before 5:15 p.m. They said neighbors went to check on the girls after hearing screaming.


Police canvassed the area and interviewed a man who matched the physical description, but “learned he and a friend had just returned from a restaurant.”

The man “approached the sisters to help,” police said. He then “withdrew and waited to talk with officers when accused of being involved.”

Police described an “unfounded” call as being the term “used to close an incident that cannot be initially substantiated. However, if additional information is obtained, the incident can be reopened.”

They asked residents to remain vigilant, but cautioned them against speculation that Monday’s scare could be linked to the murders.
 
Another incident in Moscow. Supposedly. Sounds like police think it was unfounded or made up.

The Moscow, Idaho, community – already on edge over a week after four college students were found stabbed to death – is questioning the legitimacy of a new report about a man who chased two women before they called the police.

The Moscow Report, a local news blog, described a “reader report” from Monday evening. According to the blog, “two young women left a residence on Blaine street around 5:15 pm this evening, and went towards their car, where they spotted a man in the front seat, who proceeded to exit and chase them.”

The women then reportedly ran away and called 911, and the man left the area. According to the report, police were unable to find the man, whom the blog described as being “an overweight white male in a yellow shirt with dirty blonde to brown hair, and a scruffy beard.”

The Moscow Police Department said later that night that officers had investigated the incident “and determined there was no crime and the incident was unfounded.”

In a press release disseminated on Tuesday, police received a call about “suspicious activity” just before 5:15 p.m. They said neighbors went to check on the girls after hearing screaming.


Police canvassed the area and interviewed a man who matched the physical description, but “learned he and a friend had just returned from a restaurant.”

The man “approached the sisters to help,” police said. He then “withdrew and waited to talk with officers when accused of being involved.”

Police described an “unfounded” call as being the term “used to close an incident that cannot be initially substantiated. However, if additional information is obtained, the incident can be reopened.”

They asked residents to remain vigilant, but cautioned them against speculation that Monday’s scare could be linked to the murders.

Why would the girls do that? I'm not so sure it's a false report.
 
At another site I post on, has nothing to do with crime, this subject came up and is drawing interest from people I've never seen interested in crime before. So, take this for what it's worth. One guy came across this post, he didn't say from where, but interesting if true:

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Ok. I found an instagram account following Kaylee and Maddie and Xana. Won’t identify who but I thought the account was VERY suspicious. It’s a guy following 6k+ young university and sorority girls. He only has 112 followers and almost zero likes on his photos. He said his old account was hacked on his insta bio and has 2 other accounts. Another one is him following 1,800+ university and sorority girl accounts. He also follows the Boise police dept for some reason… the University of Idaho, Idaho fraternity council, and Gamma Phi Beta on insta.

His stories and posts are alarming and point to him being emotionally unstable and a loner. He is following gun and weapons accounts and creepy horror and bloody/murder accounts. He made a post about girls being whores… scary.

I noticed he used his other two accounts to like his own posts… strange. He was liking comments on Kaylee’s posts and ones between her and Maddie. Specifically on Kaylee’s post from the night before the murders when apparently they had a house party? One Kaylee’s friend’s said “I would die for you” and Kaylee responds “ I would literally do the same for you”…. I checked the girls instagram accounts and they are NOT following him on any of his 3 accounts. I took screenshots of his likes and the comments and I went back later and realized he removed his likes.

He also posted a story of the girls death with multiple photos etc and said “who would do something so evil”… I also researched him further and found out he lives in Vancouver, WA and works at a waste management placement near a river near Marion County only an hour from where the stabbing murders happened last year. I mapped his home to Kaylee and Maddie’s address and it’s a 5 hour and 40 min drive. He could easily drive there for the weekend kill them and drive home and dispose of his weapon either at work or in the river near his work. I mean him working in waste management… he probably has the type of gear like gloves and maybe a zip up outfit or something to make a clean exit? Idk all just random stuff I’m thinking but like this is too weird.

This is also a strange coincidence and I know the hoodie guy from the food truck was apparently already questioned but I need to add this. I also found a photo of him and what I believe is his brother and they not only look like the two guys from the food truck video but are wearing similar clothes and he also took a picture of a pair of his “new Nikes” on one account (they aren’t similar to the video ones they are red but still…. He likes a similar style nike shoe so he could own the ones in the video maybe 路*♀️). This is all just something I’ve been looking into on my own but it’s way too weird.



I also saw a local of Moscow said on another Reddit post that the weekend of the murders there was an influx of people from out of town for some event going on where they were redirecting people from nearby Washington State Uni to Moscow. Can’t find the post now but maybe someone can help clarify.


OK UPDATE. I googled his name again and found 6 separate accounts and one where he is following 9 KNIFE accounts!

* I HAVE ALREADY REPORTED THIS TO THE TIP LINE*
I sent an extensive email with all of my research to the FBI in Salt Lake City.
Another update - This guy has been deleting all traces of this info because someone told me he’s become aware of the police presence outside his home in relation to this case BUT I have screenshots and screen recordings of it all as a backup.
Someone also told me he is monitoring this thread!
 
At another site I post on, has nothing to do with crime, this subject came up and is drawing interest from people I've never seen interested in crime before. So, take this for what it's worth. One guy came across this post, he didn't say from where, but interesting if true:

__________________________________________________________________

Ok. I found an instagram account following Kaylee and Maddie and Xana. Won’t identify who but I thought the account was VERY suspicious. It’s a guy following 6k+ young university and sorority girls. He only has 112 followers and almost zero likes on his photos. He said his old account was hacked on his insta bio and has 2 other accounts. Another one is him following 1,800+ university and sorority girl accounts. He also follows the Boise police dept for some reason… the University of Idaho, Idaho fraternity council, and Gamma Phi Beta on insta.

His stories and posts are alarming and point to him being emotionally unstable and a loner. He is following gun and weapons accounts and creepy horror and bloody/murder accounts. He made a post about girls being whores… scary.

I noticed he used his other two accounts to like his own posts… strange. He was liking comments on Kaylee’s posts and ones between her and Maddie. Specifically on Kaylee’s post from the night before the murders when apparently they had a house party? One Kaylee’s friend’s said “I would die for you” and Kaylee responds “ I would literally do the same for you”…. I checked the girls instagram accounts and they are NOT following him on any of his 3 accounts. I took screenshots of his likes and the comments and I went back later and realized he removed his likes.

He also posted a story of the girls death with multiple photos etc and said “who would do something so evil”… I also researched him further and found out he lives in Vancouver, WA and works at a waste management placement near a river near Marion County only an hour from where the stabbing murders happened last year. I mapped his home to Kaylee and Maddie’s address and it’s a 5 hour and 40 min drive. He could easily drive there for the weekend kill them and drive home and dispose of his weapon either at work or in the river near his work. I mean him working in waste management… he probably has the type of gear like gloves and maybe a zip up outfit or something to make a clean exit? Idk all just random stuff I’m thinking but like this is too weird.

This is also a strange coincidence and I know the hoodie guy from the food truck was apparently already questioned but I need to add this. I also found a photo of him and what I believe is his brother and they not only look like the two guys from the food truck video but are wearing similar clothes and he also took a picture of a pair of his “new Nikes” on one account (they aren’t similar to the video ones they are red but still…. He likes a similar style nike shoe so he could own the ones in the video maybe 路*♀️). This is all just something I’ve been looking into on my own but it’s way too weird.



I also saw a local of Moscow said on another Reddit post that the weekend of the murders there was an influx of people from out of town for some event going on where they were redirecting people from nearby Washington State Uni to Moscow. Can’t find the post now but maybe someone can help clarify.


OK UPDATE. I googled his name again and found 6 separate accounts and one where he is following 9 KNIFE accounts!

* I HAVE ALREADY REPORTED THIS TO THE TIP LINE*
I sent an extensive email with all of my research to the FBI in Salt Lake City.
Another update - This guy has been deleting all traces of this info because someone told me he’s become aware of the police presence outside his home in relation to this case BUT I have screenshots and screen recordings of it all as a backup.
Someone also told me he is monitoring this thread!
You know, sad truth. Lots of men follow like this.
 
That's interesting and should definitely not be ignored. Not sure why they sent to Salt Lake FBI even if that is the head, I think they should have forwarded directly to Moscow also.

It could as easily be someone like that as someone close to home.

However, I still think it is close to home/he is known to them or one of them. I think they know who and I think they are building their case. I hope anyhow.

However, if another week goes by without an arrest, I am going to have to rethink that. Leaving someone like this on the street who committed mass murder, personal and targeted or not, is difficult to understand.
 
I also saw a local of Moscow said on another Reddit post that the weekend of the murders there was an influx of people from out of town for some event going on where they were redirecting people from nearby Washington State Uni to Moscow. Can’t find the post now but maybe someone can help clarify.
There was a U of I football game that night. There was also a WSU (Washington State) football game that night. WSU also had "family weekend" that weekend (Saturday) where MANY students, families, and alumni go to campus. I would doubt anyone was "directing" people to Moscow, but if Pullman was extra busy, as it was, I'm sure many DID make the short jaunt to find less busy bars and restaurants.

Though across state lines, you can drive from one campus to the other in 5-10 minutes.

The Apple Cup is this weekend in Pullman, WA at WSU. It shouldn't be ignored that though across state lines, many WSU (Washington State) students are also very nervous. And now thousands and thousands of people are coming into town once again for the biggest game of the year.

A reporter asked a question about what was happening with WSU / Pullman. I can't find it now, but to my recollection, it seemed pretty dismissive. Something like, I'm not aware of what Washington is doing. Seems like they should be working together.
 
There was a U of I football game that night. There was also a WSU (Washington State) football game that night. WSU also had "family weekend" that weekend (Saturday) where MANY students, families, and alumni go to campus. I would doubt anyone was "directing" people to Moscow, but if Pullman was extra busy, as it was, I'm sure many DID make the short jaunt to find less busy bars and restaurants.

Though across state lines, you can drive from one campus to the other in 5-10 minutes.

The Apple Cup is this weekend in Pullman, WA at WSU. It shouldn't be ignored that though across state lines, many WSU (Washington State) students are also very nervous. And now thousands and thousands of people are coming into town once again for the biggest game of the year.

A reporter asked a question about what was happening with WSU / Pullman. I can't find it now, but to my recollection, it seemed pretty dismissive. Something like, I'm not aware of what Washington is doing. Seems like they should be working together.
I had no idea it was so close to the border! I have a friend who used to be the baseball coach at WSU years back. Small world.
 
I just watched this video and it's only about 16 minutes long, but it gave me a better understanding of the layout of the house.

One thing that was interesting is that he honed in on the red substance on the outside of the house. It's actually coming from Xena's bedroom. And the substance has been suspected by internet sleuths as being coming from a pipe, but in one area it's definitely on top of the pipe. I think this YouTube creator has a background in law enforcement and he didn't rule out blood, but he said only an investigator working on this scene can verify what the substance might be.

 
I just thought of something. A lot of us have been wondering why in the world they wouldn’t have noticed that the unconscious roommates had been stabbed. I was just watching Linda‘s newest video that just came out a little while ago, and she mentioned that the roommates who were alive were calling about Xana. That is the one where they are suspecting there has been a lot of blood. How would they think she was only unconscious? But what if the door was locked? I have a lock on my bedroom door. Maybe they had a lock on their bedroom door, and they just wouldn’t answer?

 
I just thought of something. A lot of us have been wondering why in the world they wouldn’t have noticed that the unconscious roommates had been stabbed. I was just watching Linda‘s newest video that just came out a little while ago, and she mentioned that the roommates who were alive were calling about Xana. That is the one where they are suspecting there has been a lot of blood. How would they think she was only unconscious? But what if the door was locked? I have a lock on my bedroom door. Maybe they had a lock on their bedroom door, and they just wouldn’t answer?


I haven't had time to catch up or a moment since this a.m. but my first thought is just because someone wouldn't answer their door wouldn't mean to me someone was unconscioius. How could they be sure she was even in there or hadn't went out for breakfast or for a walk, etc. and locked her bedroom door behind her. Assuming it locked that way of course.

I haven't seen Linda's video but did see her live on Delphi the other night where everyone was clamoring for her to look into this case, glad she has.

Maybe I am way off base but a thought I have is maybe Xana was conscioius and something she did or screamed alerted or
awoke the roommates who ran to see and then she went unconscious? She was the one said to have fought back, etc.

I don't know but the more I think about the 911 call about an unconscious person AND them calling friends first to come more and more does not sit well with me. I'm not saying they were responsible but I am saying even if you think your friend unconscious you first call for help as time may be of the essence. You don't call others who later call LE...
 
This is interesting. Some heard before but not all. A lot about hoodie guy and the girls that night at the bar and food truck, etc. But of interest is the dark sedan showed up, the Uber that was not an Uber, or was it? What is with that anyhow? The driver gets out and yells to the girls to hurry up. Before that a bunch of fraternity guys had shown up. The food truck guy gives the girls free food and rushes their meals since driver yelled at them to hurry up etc....

This witness who has spoken before I think is the big guy int he video at the food truck and he calls the girls drunk at the bar even prior to the food truck....
 

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