JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events

• April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
• December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
• February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
• February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
• June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
• July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
• August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
• September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
• September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
• September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
• September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
• October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
• October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
• October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
• October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
• Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
• November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
• November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
• December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
• December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
• December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
• January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
• January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

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[Kimster]

I wasn't even going to argue it as I figured you were right. This case, so hard to keep up with and keep straight! I did think in listening to the 911 call he said it was his mom's boyfriend, he also never knew Alex's last name. VERY ODD and hidden from her adult son.

In listening to it again, he says that Alex is passed out in his (the son's)house. So here we have a guy who is married to his mother and they all live in the same house and he didn't even know that his mother married the guy? Come on! That is bizarre.

 

[GrandmaBear]

In listening to it again, he says that he's passed out in his (the son's)house. So here we have a guy who is married to his mother and they all live in the same house and he didn't even know that his mother married the guy? Come on! That is bizarre.

All I can figure is it is a very good way of keeping cults and deaths for life insurance quiet, just don't tell anyone about the marriage??? You are right, this entire case is bizarre, who could believe this could all go on? I think it was in the first video I posted above or possibly the second where the podcaster says how easily Lori may have gotten away with all of this [or both of them as the case may be] if not for the kids being reported missing... And it's scary how likely true that is...

 

[GrandmaBear]

And I am not knocking LE. Different states and jurisdictions for marriages. Not telling anyone or most people. Tammy Daybell's murder dismissed as natural, Lori wouldn't have even been on the radar on that one. Etc., etc., etc.

 

[Kimster]

And I am not knocking LE. Different states and jurisdictions for marriages. Not telling anyone or most people. Tammy Daybell's murder dismissed as natural, Lori wouldn't have even been on the radar on that one. Etc., etc., etc.

I definitely think it's because of all the different jurisdictions and the fact that they probably didn't have very many friends anywhere they were. From the dateline episode, it didn't sound like her friend on Kauai knew a lot about what was going on in the mainland, that's for sure.

It's even hard for me to keep up! They moved all over the place.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I definitely think it's because of all the different jurisdictions and the fact that they probably didn't have very many friends anywhere they were. From the dateline episode, it didn't sound like her friend on Kauai knew a lot about what was going on in the mainland, that's for sure.

It's even hard for me to keep up! They moved all over the place.

The more I think about it, I hate to give them any credit for brains, but I think the different jurisdictions and keeping it quiet may well have been strategy which truly almost worked. When you move like that the new cops in your new area would likely know little about you, especially if NEVER charged with a death, etc. Just a thought.

I agree the friend in Kauai seemed to know little and when Lori came down with Tylee seemed to think it was a marital spat that would likely blow over, etc. I think members of their "cult" knew more and that niece of hers, I am sorry, but I do NOT believe her. Nor Ian. I suspect Dateline has a whole lot more to their interview that was not shared yet. All they did was a few clips here and there.

 

[Sunburst]

I was talking to a friend of mine about this case. Friend is semi-following the case. Friend's theory is this, based on the way Lori thinks:
Lori has stashed the kids away in another country, probably in Central America. Since Lori is the chosen one and the world is ending in July, Lori's kids are also chosen and need to be kept safe so they can help in restoring the world after July.

 

[Kimster]

I was talking to a friend of mine about this case. Friend is semi-following the case. Friend's theory is this, based on the way Lori thinks:
Lori has stashed the kids away in another country, probably in Central America. Since Lori is the chosen one and the world is ending in July, Lori's kids are also chosen and need to be kept safe so they can help in restoring the world after July.

well let's hope so but I don't know how she could have got them out of the country without passports? I do hope the children are still alive. We need a miracle here!

 

[GrandmaBear]

I was talking to a friend of mine about this case. Friend is semi-following the case. Friend's theory is this, based on the way Lori thinks:
Lori has stashed the kids away in another country, probably in Central America. Since Lori is the chosen one and the world is ending in July, Lori's kids are also chosen and need to be kept safe so they can help in restoring the world after July.

I have thought of scenarios like this and would love to believe it but even the niece said it was said by Lori and Chad that the kids were "zombies" or taken over by "zombies". Others they have called that have died and Tammy Daybell was allegedly one. However, I do believe there is a chance your friend is right and many hope or think that. I personally don't believe it but try to have some hope. The overall facts of the case sure don't fit it though, to me.

 

[Oneofthem]

It will take me awhile to catch up again. In just 24 hours! Lol.
I didn’t see the podcast and can’t comment on all the news. So much comes out I feel like it’s another case.
see y’all later when I can catch up again.

 

[GrandmaBear]

It will take me awhile to catch up again. In just 24 hours! Lol.
I didn’t see the podcast and can’t comment on all the news. So much comes out I feel like it’s another case.
see y’all later when I can catch up again.

It's a convoluted Lori Vallow kind of mess... Watch that shorter podcast I posted, the last one. All interesting but the last part where they label different people dark souls or light is really concerning.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Boy here is another one 20 minutes long. She packs a lot of info into a short podcast and some of it is news to me. She has great thoughts and puts them together well. I watched her on occasion but on this case may stick to her first. She has a very rapid growing following.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Boy here is another one 20 minutes long. She packs a lot of info into a short podcast and some of it is news to me. She has great thoughts and puts them together well. I watched her on occasion but on this case may stick to her first. She has a very rapid growing following.

Man watch this one. If you want to go what in 20 minutes, she really packs a punch and puts dates together, etc. so well. This is soooooo interesting.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Man watch this one. If you want to go what in 20 minutes, she really packs a punch and puts dates together, etc. so well. This is soooooo interesting.

I know I am going on but this most recent one, watch it and I bet you come back and say wow. They are all worth watching that I posted. Some PD should hire this Linda, she puts facts together very well. She takes the time to do what most of us don't do.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Oh my goodness, I am only going to watch her on this case from now on. She has put these things together so well and dates, etc. 20 packed minuted always. I have watched her before and should have just stuck there. My mind is scrambled though and I have followed the case. She has separated it SOOO well but these people are nuts!

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

‘Cult mom’ Lori Vallow’s husband says he can see ‘light and dark’ spirits in people: Report

In a newly uncovered email, doomsday author Chad Daybell tells his soon-to-be new wife Lori Vallow where her family members stand on a “light and dark” scale, Fox 10 reports. “Here are the family history documents you requested,” Daybell writes in the October 18, 2018, email, along with a page...

www.crimeonline.com

In a newly uncovered email, doomsday author Chad Daybell tells his soon-to-be new wife Lori Vallow where her family members stand on a “light and dark” scale, Fox 10 reports.

“Here are the family history documents you requested,” Daybell writes in the October 18, 2018, email, along with a page explaining the scale and numbers of “light” and “dark” spirits — from 2 to 6 — and another putting Vallow’s family members on the scale.

Tylee Ryan and Joshua “JJ” Vallow, Lori Vallow’s missing children, are on the list: Tylee is a 4.1 dark spirit and JJ is 4.2 light spirit, according to Daybell.

According to Daybell’s explanation, the number “dark” spirits can never exceed the number of “light” spirits on earth, and lower levels — 2s and 3s — “are fluid and can change sides during earth life.”

Vallow herself, Daybell says, is a 4.3 light.

 

[Oneofthem]

I know I am going on but this most recent one, watch it and I bet you come back and say wow. They are all worth watching that I posted. Some PD should hire this Linda, she puts facts together very well. She takes the time to do what most of us don't do.

Hi. I have been watching It’s a Crime with Linda since Gannon was killed. She is very good. I haven’t watched Scott before but the video of the two of them were good.

I think I may have told you about It’s A Crime in an email a few weeks back. I’m watching the rest of them now.

 

[Sunburst]

‘Cult mom’ Lori Vallow’s husband says he can see ‘light and dark’ spirits in people: Report

In a newly uncovered email, doomsday author Chad Daybell tells his soon-to-be new wife Lori Vallow where her family members stand on a “light and dark” scale, Fox 10 reports. “Here are the family history documents you requested,” Daybell writes in the October 18, 2018, email, along with a page...

www.crimeonline.com

In a newly uncovered email, doomsday author Chad Daybell tells his soon-to-be new wife Lori Vallow where her family members stand on a “light and dark” scale, Fox 10 reports.

“Here are the family history documents you requested,” Daybell writes in the October 18, 2018, email, along with a page explaining the scale and numbers of “light” and “dark” spirits — from 2 to 6 — and another putting Vallow’s family members on the scale.

Tylee Ryan and Joshua “JJ” Vallow, Lori Vallow’s missing children, are on the list: Tylee is a 4.1 dark spirit and JJ is 4.2 light spirit, according to Daybell.

According to Daybell’s explanation, the number “dark” spirits can never exceed the number of “light” spirits on earth, and lower levels — 2s and 3s — “are fluid and can change sides during earth life.”

Vallow herself, Daybell says, is a 4.3 light.
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Tylee was probably listed as " dark" because she is/was old enough and smart enough to see through Chad and Lori's bullsht.

 

[Oneofthem]

It's a convoluted Lori Vallow kind of mess... Watch that shorter podcast I posted, the last one. All interesting but the last part where they label different people dark souls or light is really concerning.

I knew about the rating system email that Chad sent to Lori. He had the gall to rate her family members. As far as I am concerned she is a 4d. Lol.
I don’t think either will get away with anything.

Scott Reisch seems to think Chad Daybell will walk. He is a criminal defense attorney but he doesn’t know what LE knows. It has taken a long while for each jurisdiction to come together and that is precisely what Chad and Lori figured on. Hence their move in the middle of the night. Not realizing the FBI would be brought in.

There are too many players for someone not to talk. They are controlled by fear. But just give this case time. Maybe the preliminary hearing for Lori should be continued until the day after their world is supposed to end hmm? This is all about money and those major players like Alex and Ian and M and Mezaluna will all be dead, just as Alex is, or broke and talking to investigators.
I do not believe this is all on Chad, he had a great scam going to get people’s money. And murder wasn’t beneath him. But Lori has been using looks and sex to get her way a long time before meeting him. Two sociopaths coming together.
Killing your children places her in a whole other category. My opinion is Chad kept his hands clean of the murders. He told Lori she must sacrifice her children for God. That’s not new. Eastern religions do that. But he likes getting others to do his dirty work. His job is to use mind control. I would love to see him convicted of murder or an accomplice to murder.

Melanie made me sick in the dateline interview, acting so naive. And she hasn’t pulled anything past the detectives eyes. Maybe they were onto Ian from the beginning also, asking him to wear a wire and knowing he would tell her.

i still haven’t caught up but I am looking at different places online. Ian writing books about video games and using ideas straight from Chads playbook in this cult about the dark versus light spirits made me realize he isn’t innocent. And that was before he married M. And then he talked about worrying about his ex wife and wearing the wire to make sure he could see his kids because he is also in a custody battle. BS! I hope his ex is under protection.

 

[Oneofthem]

‘Cult mom’ Lori Vallow’s husband says he can see ‘light and dark’ spirits in people: Report

In a newly uncovered email, doomsday author Chad Daybell tells his soon-to-be new wife Lori Vallow where her family members stand on a “light and dark” scale, Fox 10 reports. “Here are the family history documents you requested,” Daybell writes in the October 18, 2018, email, along with a page...

www.crimeonline.com

In a newly uncovered email, doomsday author Chad Daybell tells his soon-to-be new wife Lori Vallow where her family members stand on a “light and dark” scale, Fox 10 reports.

“Here are the family history documents you requested,” Daybell writes in the October 18, 2018, email, along with a page explaining the scale and numbers of “light” and “dark” spirits — from 2 to 6 — and another putting Vallow’s family members on the scale.

Tylee Ryan and Joshua “JJ” Vallow, Lori Vallow’s missing children, are on the list: Tylee is a 4.1 dark spirit and JJ is 4.2 light spirit, according to Daybell.

According to Daybell’s explanation, the number “dark” spirits can never exceed the number of “light” spirits on earth, and lower levels — 2s and 3s — “are fluid and can change sides during earth life.”

Vallow herself, Daybell says, is a 4.3 light.

He also said the dark spirits should be killed because they take over a human on earth. Such as Charles Vallow. He told Lori her husband was a dark spirit and was controlled by a precious person named Nick Schneider and so Charles had to die.

He told her Tylee had to die. And I am sure JJ became darker too.
I do not understand how people fall for this stuff. I just don’t.
That makes him guilty at least of conspiracy to commit murder.

 

[Oneofthem]

I know I am going on but this most recent one, watch it and I bet you come back and say wow. They are all worth watching that I posted. Some PD should hire this Linda, she puts facts together very well. She takes the time to do what most of us don't do.

Yes she is good in the Gannon case too.