JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
www.eastidahonews.com

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
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Since we have such a decent easygoing amiable site, I am going to post this here even though it doesn't relate to the crimes but it is Nate Eaton who along with Justin Lum have provided awesome coverage on these cases and is how I think most of us got to be well aware of both of them.

It's just a fun one of Nate and his wife on vacation for his parents' 50th and an enjoyable watch. I know that this thread is the one most related to Nate so I am going to post it so anyone who wants to can watch it. Nice they got some down time, even though busy with fun, after his full coverage of the trial.

 
www.krem.com

Judge in Lori Vallow case rules on who may make victim's impact statements at sentencing

Vallow is scheduled to be sentenced for murder, conspiracy and grand theft on July 31. Friday marks three years since the remains of two of her children were found.
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Author: Jeremy Stiles
Published: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023
Updated: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023

FREMONT COUNTY, Idaho — When Lori Vallow, aka Lori Vallow Daybell, is sentenced for murder and conspiracy in the deaths of two of her children and her current husband's late wife, three people will be permitted to make victim impact statements.

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In an order filed Thursday, Judge Steven Boyce has determined that Kay Woodcock, Summer Shiflet and Colby Ryan are entitled under Idaho law to submit victim impact statements and address the court at sentencing as "immediate family members" or as a court-recognized representative of an immediate family member of one of the three murder victims.

Boyce cited the Idaho Supreme Court's 2013 ruling in State v. Shackleford, in which the court noted that its ruling in a 2008 case, State v. Payne, defined "immediate family members" as "parent, mother-in-law, father-in-law, husband, wife, sister, brother, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, or a son or daughter" for the purpose of determining who has victim's rights in homicide cases. In the Shackleford case, the court held that victim impact statements by those who are not immediate family members of the victim are in admissible.
 
Summer_Breeze said:
www.krem.com

Judge in Lori Vallow case rules on who may make victim's impact statements at sentencing

Vallow is scheduled to be sentenced for murder, conspiracy and grand theft on July 31. Friday marks three years since the remains of two of her children were found.
www.krem.com www.krem.com

Author: Jeremy Stiles
Published: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023
Updated: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023

FREMONT COUNTY, Idaho — When Lori Vallow, aka Lori Vallow Daybell, is sentenced for murder and conspiracy in the deaths of two of her children and her current husband's late wife, three people will be permitted to make victim impact statements.

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In an order filed Thursday, Judge Steven Boyce has determined that Kay Woodcock, Summer Shiflet and Colby Ryan are entitled under Idaho law to submit victim impact statements and address the court at sentencing as "immediate family members" or as a court-recognized representative of an immediate family member of one of the three murder victims.

Boyce cited the Idaho Supreme Court's 2013 ruling in State v. Shackleford, in which the court noted that its ruling in a 2008 case, State v. Payne, defined "immediate family members" as "parent, mother-in-law, father-in-law, husband, wife, sister, brother, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, or a son or daughter" for the purpose of determining who has victim's rights in homicide cases. In the Shackleford case, the court held that victim impact statements by those who are not immediate family members of the victim are in admissible.
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I am guessing if this is all that is allowed then Kay will have to carry it for the most part. If Summer or Colby even give one, I'm not sure how hard they will come down on Lori...? Both testified but I doubt they wanted to necessarily.

I wonder if it is State law because in our case, we had grandma, great grandma, great aunt and great uncle making or submitting statements and all were taken. As they should be imo. I think anyone affected should be able to talk as they ARE a victim. Seriously. What of a victim who has no family or no close family? Whey can't' a lifelong friend testify, etc.?

I like our rules in this case better than Idaho's stupid rules.
 
Summer_Breeze said:
www.krem.com

Judge in Lori Vallow case rules on who may make victim's impact statements at sentencing

Vallow is scheduled to be sentenced for murder, conspiracy and grand theft on July 31. Friday marks three years since the remains of two of her children were found.
www.krem.com www.krem.com

Author: Jeremy Stiles
Published: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023
Updated: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023

FREMONT COUNTY, Idaho — When Lori Vallow, aka Lori Vallow Daybell, is sentenced for murder and conspiracy in the deaths of two of her children and her current husband's late wife, three people will be permitted to make victim impact statements.

<snip>

In an order filed Thursday, Judge Steven Boyce has determined that Kay Woodcock, Summer Shiflet and Colby Ryan are entitled under Idaho law to submit victim impact statements and address the court at sentencing as "immediate family members" or as a court-recognized representative of an immediate family member of one of the three murder victims.

Boyce cited the Idaho Supreme Court's 2013 ruling in State v. Shackleford, in which the court noted that its ruling in a 2008 case, State v. Payne, defined "immediate family members" as "parent, mother-in-law, father-in-law, husband, wife, sister, brother, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, or a son or daughter" for the purpose of determining who has victim's rights in homicide cases. In the Shackleford case, the court held that victim impact statements by those who are not immediate family members of the victim are in admissible.
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Oh, that will burn when Colby and Summer speak up.
 
RoundPeg said:
Oh, that will burn when Colby and Summer speak up.
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I think it will too if they do so. I think they may but I'm not sure how hard they will come at Lori, I do think they will if they do so talk about the pain it has caused all and how senseless it is these kids are gone.

Summer had to testify imo but Lori's parents talk to Lori in jail and I'm not sure Summer doesn't as well. They can be entirely upset with her but still not want to speak up on sentencing her as harshly as possible. I have to wonder about Colby as well. They did what they had to for the kids but their impact statements, if one is given, may throw more shade to Chad, etc.... On the stand, they stayed to what was asked as witnesses are told to do, don't offer more or answer more than the question.

They're in a rough spot. I don't doubt they'd prefer their sister/mother gets "fixed" from this thing that overtook her (Chad). We will see I guess...

A very, very hard spot to be in, that's for sure. This was Colby's mother his entire life and Summer's sister during their entire lives...
 
Summer_Breeze said:
www.krem.com

Judge in Lori Vallow case rules on who may make victim's impact statements at sentencing

Vallow is scheduled to be sentenced for murder, conspiracy and grand theft on July 31. Friday marks three years since the remains of two of her children were found.
www.krem.com www.krem.com

Author: Jeremy Stiles
Published: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023
Updated: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023

FREMONT COUNTY, Idaho — When Lori Vallow, aka Lori Vallow Daybell, is sentenced for murder and conspiracy in the deaths of two of her children and her current husband's late wife, three people will be permitted to make victim impact statements.

<snip>

In an order filed Thursday, Judge Steven Boyce has determined that Kay Woodcock, Summer Shiflet and Colby Ryan are entitled under Idaho law to submit victim impact statements and address the court at sentencing as "immediate family members" or as a court-recognized representative of an immediate family member of one of the three murder victims.

Boyce cited the Idaho Supreme Court's 2013 ruling in State v. Shackleford, in which the court noted that its ruling in a 2008 case, State v. Payne, defined "immediate family members" as "parent, mother-in-law, father-in-law, husband, wife, sister, brother, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, or a son or daughter" for the purpose of determining who has victim's rights in homicide cases. In the Shackleford case, the court held that victim impact statements by those who are not immediate family members of the victim are in admissible.
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I just wanted to add in case anyone didn't read the link that 4 other people petitioned the court for impact statements and were denied. Seems fair based on the law.

Larry Woodcock, Vicki Hoben, Rex Conner and Brandon Boudreaux also filed victims' rights forms with the court.

Rex is Lori's uncle, Vicki is Tammy's aunt.
 
Summer_Breeze said:
www.krem.com

Judge in Lori Vallow case rules on who may make victim's impact statements at sentencing

Vallow is scheduled to be sentenced for murder, conspiracy and grand theft on July 31. Friday marks three years since the remains of two of her children were found.
www.krem.com www.krem.com

Author: Jeremy Stiles
Published: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023
Updated: 12:14 PM PDT June 9, 2023

FREMONT COUNTY, Idaho — When Lori Vallow, aka Lori Vallow Daybell, is sentenced for murder and conspiracy in the deaths of two of her children and her current husband's late wife, three people will be permitted to make victim impact statements.

<snip>

In an order filed Thursday, Judge Steven Boyce has determined that Kay Woodcock, Summer Shiflet and Colby Ryan are entitled under Idaho law to submit victim impact statements and address the court at sentencing as "immediate family members" or as a court-recognized representative of an immediate family member of one of the three murder victims.

Boyce cited the Idaho Supreme Court's 2013 ruling in State v. Shackleford, in which the court noted that its ruling in a 2008 case, State v. Payne, defined "immediate family members" as "parent, mother-in-law, father-in-law, husband, wife, sister, brother, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, or a son or daughter" for the purpose of determining who has victim's rights in homicide cases. In the Shackleford case, the court held that victim impact statements by those who are not immediate family members of the victim are in admissible.
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Bums me out that Tammy's kids aren't included. I imagine they didn't ask. I don't understand how none of them appear to believe their mom was murdered.
 
I guess it could be looked at that way but heck they could make an impact statement saying they know Lori did it and not their dad... Unless ID limits what a victim can say, generally it is UP TO THE VICTIM.

It could also be looked at as if they choose not to speak at Lori's that they don't think she killed their mom and that leaves their DAD and Alex as the conspirators....

And finally it could be looked at as if they do believe Lori and their dad did it but are ashamed, don't want to be seen and don't want to be involved in either case in either way...

But back to the first part, they could stand there and say that Lori is evil and killed their mother and manipulated their dad with sex and lies, etc... And ask for the harshest penalty for her.

All I know is they aren't standing up for their mother in any way, shape or form, just like the Morphew girls. I don't picture those two girls ever giving a hoot but I do wonder if one day Chad's kids may not later regret not doing so...

On the other hand, they are probably so raised and controlled with Chad's games and "teachings" it is almost likely ingrained and they may never come out of it...
 
idahonews.com

Report: Lori Vallow Daybell's request for new trial denied

East Idaho News reports that Lori Vallow Daybell was back in court on Thursday. Her attorneys filed a motion calling for a new trial based on three arguments.
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by CBS2 News Staff
Thu, June 15th 2023, 1:09 PM EDT

BOISE, Idaho — East Idaho News reports that Lori Vallow Daybell was back in court on Thursday. Her attorneys filed a motion calling for a new trial based on three arguments.

The first argument made by the defense is that the jury was "impermissibly mislead" in the jury instructions prior to their deliberations, citing an interview between Nate Eaton at East Idaho News and Juror #8 shortly after the trial ended. The juror made reference to finding the instructions potentially confusing, however the state points out that later in the interview he clarified that he was not confused by the instructions and understood what he was there to do.

The next argument reported by East Idaho News is that the defense claims an alteration to the indictment, changing "and" to "and/or" was improper and confusing to both the juror and to Daybell herself. The defense argues that this was not an appropriate alteration to the indictment and it came just before the state rested their case, meaning for nearly 7 weeks the jury and the defendant were told one thing, then at the end told another.

The final prong of the defense's arguments rested on changing the definition of conspiracy in the indictment from 5 coconspirators to at least 2. Daybell was charged with conspiracy to commit murder, and the original indictment said that Lori, Chad, Alex, and at least 2 others conspired to commit these crimes. Prior to the state resting its case, the indictment was changed to say at least 2 others, meaning Chad and Alex, leaving room for others.

Judge Boyce made a ruling on the motion after a twenty minute break. East Idaho News reports that Boyce denied the motion for a new trial altogether. Boyce reportedly said that the interview was never entered as evidence and he cannot consider any of the information therein because it is not evidence. Boyce stated that each day the jury signed an affirmation that they had not received outside information on the trial, been prejudiced in anyway, and that they were clear in their understanding of the rules.
 
WOW. Did he know he may be killed... I'm telling ya...

Also life insurance rules and laws need to change. He shouldn't have had any problem doing this as HE WAS the policy holder. It shouldn't have taken days or mail or anything like that. If he could prove who he was then that is ALL they should have needed, yet Lori had to prove no such thing to go in and mess with it... Just again, WOW.
 
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