Yeah, I think he was only married twice. Once when he was really young and then the second time to Zulema. But it seems like I read that he would bring Colombian women back with him once in a while? Or maybe he just stayed with them down in Columbia. It was some weird thing he was involved in.
it was Colombia wasn't it? There was one he spent some time with while there, like going on some dating thing, he paid to go and she met him, etc. and she talked and shared the story. They were never married though. And yes he had the short marriage where the ex talked about how Lori and Alex were almost sexual with each other and how it didn't sit with her and she talked about the weird behavior in his family too. And then the marriage to Zulema. Those are the only two. Marriages. Neither of which imo were normal or stereotypical.
You know I've come over a bit to feeling for Summer and think she has had some eye opening things but there are a lot of reports and thinks about the Cox family that are hard to forget or let go. About the dad for one and the really weird open sexual talk at the dinner table and a lot more. Now I'd ignore that as people having tidbits and sensational sh*t but there's been a lot of it from cousins and various sources that aren't seeming to be interested in having some spotlight on them and their info.
Adam and Summer I try to see it and are not going to go down that lane and I do believe they've gotten some clarity and this is mom and dad and sister, etc. but there is a LOT out there about this family that comes from extended family even.
Sorry but I do think Summer stepped up and did what she had to do and there is no way she was not upset when those kids were found on Lori's man's property. I think there is a naivete or was maybe and Adam well, him too, he will make a point of he isn't all LDS all of the time or going to temple every day but he hasn't left it, nor has Rex. I'm not saying it is LDS that did this but there are real reasons this kind of sh*t happens in that faith. I am not trying to be non PC but its' obvious.
The whole thing was founded on someone believing visions of a teenager. And all claim that want to be important to have visions. And author. And lead. And now podcast. And prep. And the end times. And they dictate what jobs they can hold, track their members and are over involved in their lives. The whole thing is a cult, I'm sorry.
I am well old enough to recall sh*t from back when and the polygamy and anti government and it did not change, it just went underground and in some ways got smarter and adapted.
You know, it is mankind's interpretation of what a cult is but maybe every religion is. I don't think so necessarily and I believe in God and I know YOU do. But I was questioning things even in Sunday School at the age of five. And as I got older my thought was God gave me this brain and believe me I was blessed with a good one although I didn't use it in life the way I should have and it is duller now, but I always said as I grew, matured and learned that he gave me this brain that questions. And mankind is mankind. There were pastors I believed and pastors I did not as to their interpretation. We've all seen top leading people at any of our churches that are total hypocrites. And the bible itself has a ton of versions and each that any one person can interpret different ways and that has been down for centuries.
There was a church I wanted to join once that had the BEST real interpretation of all imo and services and a friend of mine I went to and was just blocks from my home I raised my kids in and I had been to for Christmas services and a Sunday service or two but immediately the pastor wanted a commitment of time and to only going there, my kids only going there, etc. and uhm NO. First of all I had NO time, not that I wouldn't have liked to but I was already holding two jobs and trying to raise two kids on my own with no help. I loved their services and the overall feeling but don't ask for that or insist on that. They also had their own form of girl scouts, etc. And this was LUTHERAN. I am sidetracking and really don't have a point but I just have come to my own beliefs through the years and none of us can entirely know and I do believe in God, I believe in an ever after and I believe there is something so much bigger than us. We are not to talk of religion so excuse me but the whole science thing I can debunk in minutes if someone wants to go there. And the God thing too I get is beyond logic or comprehension but there are things in this life that just show there has to be some reason or purpose. Damned if I understand it and boy do I question and even rail with like our murdered baby.
And if there is no life after then I guess when we die we are just dead and there never was any point to all this trial and tribulation and hard times and good times we all go through and that is incomprehensible to me. The beginning is what has stymied me from a young age and not a person in almost 60 years I have talked to gets what I mean. I drove my Sunday School teacher nuts with it in that simply put, where did God come from. Who created God. Well let's take that to the sonic boom or any other theory, where did those elements come from that created such a. Nothing can exist before it existed and if it did, that had to have an origin. Even nothingness could never have existed without someone creating nothingness. If ANYONE gets what I mean please tell me, I have never in my life had anyone totally get this. I have to let it go and have many a time because it is like the chicken and the egg but far worse.
And I am sidetracking and of course a single short day off in two weeks and getting nothing done. Totally sidetracking.
Anyhow back to this, first off as they all say and Lindsey said too as Rachel did they could have gone down no end of rabbit holes as to the religious stuff BUT they in talking it was a means to an end for Chad and Lori.
Sorry, thought I was talking of her interview as I finished it and she was a lot more unreserved than I expected and came here to share my take it then was catching up with your posts and doing some things in between and of course now I am totally off track.
I came in with all sorts of thoughts on that interview and came in to remark on that actually. Man it was good, yet again. Lindsey shared more than I thought she would but I should separate posts ut won't get time.
Alex was excommunicated more than once wasn't he... And they are taught such extreme things of what they can and can't do. And of course they are special, they are the 144. And then take I am not even sure if their parents were church going totally abiding people of it but it still was invasive in their lives. There are accounts of how Lori's dad considered them above others and so on. Many.
But this started, I am sorry with the Colombia thing, and then there is Alex traveling to other countries to have sex and even things about minors. Of course sex is restricted outside of marriage but seems like it didn't stop Chad and Lori, because he came up with they were married in a past life... The way Mel G and her went at each other about sex outside of marriage also I would say tells of David and Mel G as well...
I have no idea where I am going other than I came in to give pretty straightfoward commentary on Lindsey Blake's interview with Nate and here I have wandered.
She did say I guess is how this started me if they had taken the religion thing, the rabbit holes may have never ended and they needed to present this to a jury and I've went down just now a bit of such a rabbit hole.
I don't know my point but I think all said is relevant to it all even if I wandered all over.
To get back to her interview, she was going to be the one to cross Lori and Chad IF either took the sand in either trial. She also explained how small her county's DA office is and man, come from a small one but that's not much staff or DA's and how Rocky Wixom came in and just hit the ground running and Ingrid Batey while she had to be in Boise. Very small staff and many other cases. And see it through to the end because she contacted Nate to add something after the interview.
There is SOOOOOOOO much to this case we don't know and they had to pick and choose on what to use. And all of them and her now even more so have given the hint of how hard and daunting of a task this entire thing and these cases were.
AND I am getting nothing done and anyone reading this long shi*t will be happy to know that's it. I've distressed I guess talking other sh*t from another week from HE77 and this is my down kind of time/stuff after a work week.
Anyhow this case keeps on giving doesn't it...
And Alex was not getting pot and autism drugs in Mexico or Central America. Imo. And not imo in the opinion of any of the prosecutors or people on the case either...
Yeah,I've wandered all over the place here.
I had a point with the religious thing and one of them is GOD gave you a brain that you can question even the things said or touted by mankind in religion with... Or the hypocrites.
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