JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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They didn't realize she had to be present to stipulate. What?

He generally requires someone be present to rule on competency.

The D asks if can't to keep the one hearing gin place for the judge to rule on her representing self...

Confusing but not in some ways. So these attys. imo are trying to do Lori's bidding and what she wants but we have Lori at her full on games imo so far. Can't be ruled she is competent to represent self, she is not there, etc.
 
State says thought would be present and could be told or admonished report that quickst way to get out of Rule 11 Is to cooperate. Also says not sure if appropriate for defense counselor o tell her not to cooperate.

SMH.

PERSONALLY I've had it with this sh*t of defendants not attending anyhow. Just another bunch of b.s. we are seeing this last year or so. They should be REQUIRED to ATTEND.
 
Having Lori not speak, yada yada yada is they wanted to withdraw the Rule 11 motion and so on.

State won;'t stipulate without Lori been seen by the one doctor.

Makes it clear THEY are not delaying things.
 
The D asks that doctor just give a report/opinion based on a records review. This judge says the doctor indicated no, not ethical, she does not have enough infor to render an opinion without seeing Lori, etc.

Not through my second far closer watch yet and yet it's only minutes but doing a few other things in between.

BUt so far I'd say Lori has an attorney or two now doing her back and call and bidding...

I'm really glad Chad and her after years of that one are already a convicted because this one too is going to take some time at this rate.

The games people play...
 
That doctor is not okay with rendering an option without meeting with Lori. Good ethics imo.

Unfortunately judge says Lori's refusal to meet with mental health experts is causing delay.

That doctor hopes to meet with her next week so she can render a report.

Uhm, how much does anyone want to bet it doesn't happen...

When did our system lose any teeth or let an accused defendant run the show, appear if they like, not if they like, etc.?

HER former attys asked for this.

What a bunch of b.s.

I keep taking a few minutes for other things as its irritating me. Not the hearing but the situation. It's very short actually. Just sick to death of Miz Lori and Chad the Storrm.
 
okay. well a bit more. extended date for this doctor's report which I am unclear but I believe means the D's client Lori had better be meeting with her. A date with the other judge left in place but another one added after this doct's report deadline.
 
Ok i haven't been in this thread for some time but found this article with some dates in it.

Nov 20th Next status conference
Dec 2nd Dr's report
Dec 5th Rule 11 hearing.



"Both parties ultimately agreed to wait for Dr. Hernandez’s report, now due by Dec. 2, and scheduled the next status conference for Nov. 20. The next Rule 11 hearing was set for Dec. 5."
 
Ok i haven't been in this thread for some time but found this article with some dates in it.

Nov 20th Next status conference
Dec 2nd Dr's report
Dec 5th Rule 11 hearing.



"Both parties ultimately agreed to wait for Dr. Hernandez’s report, now due by Dec. 2, and scheduled the next status conference for Nov. 20. The next Rule 11 hearing was set for Dec. 5."
Okay you do have them all, I just double checked.

The report due on the 2nd, they will have 3 days to redact things in it and enter it so the 5th, when there is also a hearing as our have here. That's IF Lori meets with the doctor this next week which has been what is causing the problems.
 
Okay you do have them all, I just double checked.

The report due on the 2nd, they will have 3 days to redact things in it and enter it so the 5th, when there is also a hearing as our have here. That's IF Lori meets with the doctor this next week which has been what is causing the problems.
Ok so this Wednesday is the status conference.
 
I hope they’ll be able to release them the evening of each day. That’s usually when I watch them anyway because I’m at work during the trial.
I don't think anything has been decided on whether her trial will be publicized and that's a long way into the future imo. This is about the Rule 11 hearing and competency exam.

As for the trial though I hope it's live like Chad's was when the time comes.

Maybe coverage has been decided for that but I don't think so.
 
I think it's attention too but I also think she's able to be back in some control, something I think she's always had a need for. She has judges, dancing, her own attorneys dancing and doctors dancing, dates are being put off because she refuses to cooperate, etc. Lori feels she is running the show, at least for the moment...

Also in the first trial, she got first got Means to dance to her tune, and then Archibald imo. Here it started out with her first attys going against her want of a speedy trial and filing for a mental thing and such was approved, for them, not for what she wanted. Now she has new attorneys doing as her ones in the other case did and trying to dance to her tune and see to it IF that's what she wants that she is allowed to represent herself and trying to get the mental exam and such halted, BUT the P argued they wanted it (was the first ones) and now it needs to proceed and judge agreed. So she's probably also not a happy camper may be the other side to it.

Her first two did opposite of what she wanted so of course she's going to insist they be gone.

For me, it's attn and control...
 

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