LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *GUILTY*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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Investigators say only one Ford Focus SE model was registered in Carroll County when Abby and Libby were killed


(This is from an IndyStar link. This seem to indicate it was checked in 2017. He admitted he was parked there so it had to be his vehicle.)

Investigator Steve Mullin testified that only one car was registered in Carroll County that appears to match the one seen on surveillance footage captured near the trails where Abby and Libby were killed: suspect Richard Allen’s vehicle.
Mullin said a search of Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicle records for Ford Focus cars registered in Carroll and surrounding counties in 2016-2017 returned 31 entries. He then said without duplicates, the search narrows to 18.
Mullin said the list of cars in the region narrowed even further, to eight, when searching for the number of Ford Focus ‘SE’ models, which is the type of car that police said Allen drove.
When asked how many Ford Focus SE cars were specifically registered in Carroll County during that time, Mullin replied “one.”
Jennifer Auger, one of Allen’s attorneys, argued the car captured on the Hoosier Harvestore surveillance footage does not show the registration or model. She further pointed out the trails are frequented by out-of-town visitors.


The state concluded the day by hearing from Brad Weber, a Carroll County resident who testified he was returning to his house, located near the trail, after clocking out of work at 2:01 p.m. on Feb. 13, 2017 – the day the girls were killed.
Weber estimated his commute takes 20-25 minutes to get home. He was shown a picture of a van, which he confirmed was his.
When the defense asked on cross-examination if he'd stopped anywhere, as he'd previously told police, Weber angrily shouted 'no'.

No other questions were asked before he was released from the witness stand.
Okay. Now this sounds like a general search of Focuses, of not only Carroll but surrounding counties and THEN they eliminated some and narrowed it to the SE model.

I'm not jumping on this boat until I see the facts because this is not at all like what I just responded to.

News SUCKS.

Regardless, the fitting of ALL is impossible to ignore. Yeah, yeah, people from other areas may travel through... Yeah it could be someone from outer space... There is a TON of all fitting here in this case. You'd never know it by some news..

This article is pretty good. They did NOT just search Carroll and it sounds like they did NOT just search the Focus SE but that they started wider and then narrowed.

Smh.
 
I just found this looking for something else.

I personally want to remove the car evidence because IMO the prosecution botched that.

And add in the detail about Brad arriving home in his van during the murders. That is HUGE. That was a new detail in the confessions and then was vetted and proven to be true.

I'm interested in how the defense is going to put on their rebuttal case.
How do you think P botched the car evidence?
 
I just found this looking for something else.

I personally want to remove the car evidence because IMO the prosecution botched that.

And add in the detail about Brad arriving home in his van during the murders. That is HUGE. That was a new detail in the confessions and then was vetted and proven to be true.

I'm interested in how the defense is going to put on their rebuttal case.
I'm just now on here today so behind and may change thoughts as I read on but I'm not yet on the car evidence with an opinion as I just read two very different things with the first two posts I read.

However, I agree that the van thing is HUGE. Think I said that yesterday. HUGE.

And lining up Wala and then Weber after, and I know I already said this, was HUGE and very smart.

I think we've seen the load already the D had to shoot. They will try of course, new stuff, hints, to obfuscate and blizzard...

It is good I am not a juror because I have no interest in what new thing they try.

There is SOOOOO much here Tom FINALLY said it did it for him. I've been there for a long time but he needed ENOUGH. And finally hit it.

It just all always fit, and now a lot of the missing pieces are falling right into place.

That'\s what I see anyhow. And jmo. I'm still waking up and it's going to be noon soon. Sigh...
 
I'm attaching a screenshot of what I read. He researched due to a juror question.

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Well that's not many, varying models,and to do it to answer a juror's question I think is pretty awesome. When one takes all of the remarks, RA'\s original time frame, evidence, etc. and the Harvest sore video. I also want to point out that they did a more general search which was not how I understood you in a post above. And then they narrowed the 8 to the only SE, 2016 model. 8 alone would be incriminating with all of the times and other evidence... But it went beyond to show and narrow it to ONE.

I'm just saying I misunderstood you or you have it wrong, that in the first post I read about this above, they searched for only an SE and this here with what you read is not what it says at all. And in Tresir's it was not just in Carroll County they searched but surrounding counties.

So the way I am looking at it NOW is he went to get the juror the answer, and gave the wider general search results, then it narrowed to show narrower ones, and then narrowed again tos how the only one... Which I think was spectacular and that news simply is NOT reporting it well although this thing you just showed here by Max Lewis pretty much DOES show that. It was not jus tsome SE search to start with, at all.

I know the ones attending are tired, I know I am and maybe we all are.

But do you see what I'm saying here? He did a wider search to begin with. That's not the way I took the first post I read of yours about this.

Or am I missing something? I certainly could be and correct me if wrong. Please.
 
I think we have heard about searches for Abby and Libby on the computer before. Probably KA will say it was her search.
If so, the defense will call her and keep it narrow so the P can't open doors into all the other sh*t she knows.
 
Ok thanks. This questioning by jurors is a pretty neat idea, i think.
Our county court has one judge (last I knew ) that does that. The other two don't. And staff there has varying opinions on such.

ME? The more the jury can question and get answers and the more truth that can be told, the better for ALL. it's going the other way though in a lot of places. I was surprised to find the rule in ours was they couldn't take or ask for a single piece of evidence, testimony etc. to review. I'd ask all here do you agree with that bs?

The more open, honest and clear the better imo. AND transparent.

I get so sickened by trials being like some fake acting Hollywood fictonal overacted drama. There are LIVES on both sides hat are being affected, and families. I consider such a joke much of the time any longer.

All cops should be using body cams. All court proceedings should be recorded in full. Let EVERY witness explain and say what they want to say. Do NOT let D attorneys (or any) insert testimony into their questions and false facts). Etc., etc. etc. Some think how unfair cops can lie to someone they are questioning. Fine. But fix this other sh*t too.

GW doesn'\t agree with what is legitely allowed and cops being able to lie in an interview. Well here's a controversial one. I don't agree with a defendant shouldn't be able to be called to the stand. And that is an invioable right is it not?

Let them stand up for themselves and tell it as they know it.

RA is sitting there in this courtroom testifying with shakes of head, nods of head, whispering back to wife and so is she. Well take the stand then.

It's all such a game and it's sad as heck since it is life, death, and rest of life for all involved. Sickens me.

Rant over.

Back to point YES jurors should be able to ask questions always! Two of our judges though and some staff disliked one just did such, now why would you ever be against that?? It is the only time I'd ever seen it or heard of it in our county. Not there way ya know. I guess...
 
O/T. OMG there is white sh*t on the ground. Few windows in this apartment and went near patio door for first time and it's NOON. So not warm enough to have melted apparently and sun is out!

I am so not ready for this season.

Trying to get laundry together. Listening to Tom. Will be back. Not a threat.
 
O/T. OMG there is white sh*t on the ground. Few windows in this apartment and went near patio door for first time and it's NOON. So not warm enough to have melted apparently and sun is out!

I am so not ready for this season.

Trying to get laundry together. Listening to Tom. Will be back. Not a threat.
Well it is winter now right? Snow day tomorrow?
 
I'm going to share this, although there's a lot more from what I at least have seen, news has not even come close to having covered. Out of MANY things.

But in all the calls between RA and anyone his daughter and he never once talked. And any time Tom shares something like this, he says he's just sharing it not opining or reading into it, just sharing that fact for all to decide or decipher if it means anything.

Contrast this with Emma Daybell...

He isn't opining but I will. NOthing, nothing could ever keep me from my dad. Even if (which would never be the case) I thought he did something, I'd still talk to and see him same with a child. I would not condone the act and make that clear, but I would still see them and in fact would ensure or tell them to come clean. That would never happen with my dad (who is passed) but saying IF...

I am OPINING unlike Tom. This says a lot to me. Now the P never put her up and can only guess as to why but that's besides the point, maybe not necessary and cutting her a break.

She's never attended and she has never had a single phone call with her dad in all this time is the point or visit either as far as I know. Definitely not at the prison and after that long, probably not at Cass either.

Now I'm not going to go way down this road but it's been rumored she and her husband are not on the same page as mom and had some things to say. I'm not SURE why they didn't go there but out of respect maybe, or agreement, who knows...

And I'm not going to go way down THIS road but now RA in a confession says he molested his sister, he was molested, more... And people have talked of the similarities in Libby and his daughter... he said he was a sex addict and child molestor.

People have talked of the similarities in his daughter and Libby.

And I am going to leave it at that. It's nothing proven but people can connect the dots or think as they will BUT just saying they never once in like was it 700 calls had contact. And I'd never be able to bail on my dad like that. EVER.

Throughout this too, I am picking up on there is a lot that's been not allowed to be said or excluded and the public and jury rarely know these things... SOMETIMES the public does as to some if news looks for such... Not in this case though I don't think...

So Im' talking fact and rumor here anyhow and take it as one wishes. FAct is she never talked to him, not once.

DOn't know if news has given this detail but it's why I watch Tom.
 
Well it is winter now right? Snow day tomorrow?
I WISH. Long story about work lately and the b.s. But no, and it's just a bare cover. To say a bit but not all, someone the other day told me sick pay can be used if roads are bad and I said where did you get that idea? She said when she couldn't make it in last year because of roads and called in, did she want to use sick pay? lol. again long story for some other time but it's at their discretion when they want you to use it up, are slow due to weather and they'd like you to say you'd use vacation pay too otherwise... But when you really need it, and are sick or it's a busier time of year, then you get attitude. I told the co worker not to count on it. It's at their discretion, it's not a "policy".

MN passed a sick pay law or we wouldn't have ANY. Story for somewhere else another time.

My laundry is in, listening to Tom. Have to go get it out and stay on it, dry some, not other things, get some water jugs out of car on same trip down.

RA'\s daughter from all I can surmise never ONCE has talked to her dad since his arrest........
 
Tom:

He couldn't catch all but the parts he got were very incriminating for Rick.

He's never ever said this before. This is one I WILL finish today as he finally reached his verdict and reasons for it.
 
tom is also over the top on the voice matching. i'm not surprised there. I heard it long ago and now they have far more that we haven't heard. that voice of BG IS RA.
 
Did dad tell you I called (stepdad) he says to wife. Wife will NOT let him confess. Always have said as much.

Tom just has got so much more, always.

I'm getting a pretty good picture of this family is all I have to say...

He is what I've always thought but lived with types that also explain a lot imo... Raised even in a way that... IMHO.

It FINALLY SOLD TOM to being able to convict.
 
How IS it that may of us said and suspected NO ONE WILL LET this man confess?? He expressed to his wife that no one will listen, wants to be heard and confess, etc. and she is like this wall of having I guess to keep all perfect and no, no, just no, dear, and wrong. Is THIS what he lived with? NOT excusing him but is this some wall of Catholic perfection or some such? Mom too?

That is NOT a knock at any Catholic. He even asks about if he can trust his attorneys (B & R), tries to confess and tell wife a million ways and she's like some oblivious need to stay in the perfect lane person.

JMO. JMO. JMO.

news doesn't cover any of this stuff that I've seen...
 

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