Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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While not always a fan of L & C and these kinds of shows, this has CB's attorney talking and taking some stances which maybe have been seen before but I am positive I've not seen such.

About how all they have is a single hair in at least a couple of the cases, about not being tried together and venue, about he will have and still wants his day in court and MORE. Nuclear DNA on hairs versus other stuff. Not long ago all were saying what can he possibly do to defend this case. Imo he still can't do much but he's coming out now and stateing some things.

I am about halfway through and it is not bad and has new stuff, at least to me. Or here I believe. it's not like Vinnie's on Doerman last night which imo had nothing new and was a rewatch or regurgitation of all. I didn't finish.

This one I will likely finish and again I go both ways for good reason on L & C sometimes.

ME THINKS his attorney is forgetting all the cell evidence and more on many of the victims but he is speciifcally also talking too though about the latest charges, how the murders are not the same, only a single hair, etc. and he wants them severed.

That is SOME of it. When did he come out saying these things because I sure missed it or is it recent? Not sure. But SO far worth a watch even though it starts with statements and PCs of Tierney, then it largely goes to CB's defense attorney so far which is new to me so it holds my interest.

Still think he is ignoring some facts but I guess we don't know about cell phone stuff and more with the most recent two murders charged. Or do we? I don't think so though...He is centering on all it is in such is a single hair for instance of his, that they previously could not test because not nuclear. And of course some other things, how the murders are not similar, should not be tried together, and more. And I'm not done yet watching.

 
Since CB's arrest, they have received 7,000! tips and all have to be followed up on. We know this because God forbid they don't. Even if a crazy one. Wow though, I wonder how many have real stories about him or if they think they dealt with or encountered him...
 
While not always a fan, a lot in here was new to me, not all but a lot. And of course where shows like this never cover everything, they at least give it more than two minutes and I would say this one was worth a watch.

And I HOPE to heck THIS case(s) does not turn into one of THOSE going on lately, with a few. From all we know there is tons of evidence and the cell phone things just for starters in Massapequa and Manhatttan and a ton more and we don't even know the half of it or even 1/4.

Imo they doubly clad EVERYTHING in this, for sure in the initial murder charges and then the rest goes to follow in these whether they have the same or not, not sure if we know on the last couple but enough, AND they put all through a GJ and all else.

Burke so destroyed this back when I can't believe the man does not cover in shame but no is soliciting his own sex act in a park not long ago.

It is though HARD to get past the b.s. and even politics of the past. The cases seem beyond ironclad. And from all we've been told there is not a single reason to think they are not. But the crazy sh*t going on these days... His attorney has hardly had a thing to say or leg to stand on until now....I still wouldn't say it's much but here he is rearing his head instead of being sought out and having to come up with responses...

I think it is a lost cause at this moment BUT some crazy things have been going on...

I'm not going to say more other than how weird all the happenings were from the get go with serial killer daughters contacting this family, a serial killer dad of one writing CB. And a WHOLE LOT more.

From all we know this is a beyond ironclad number of cases. From all we have been to told.

And there iare some things that need to be taken care of imo. I'll give just one. Shannon Gilbert's death should be undetermined the case open and active. I'm not saying CB did it or was invovlved, I don't even necessarily lean that way BUT it plays into the public trust. And that of the families and more if you want the taint form the past gone, then DO IT.

There is a lot more I could say but I am going to withhold it for a few reasons. Anyhow, I found this worth the watch but felt a bit of it could have had more said.

Comments are coming to me but again going to withhold them. First and foremost is justice and at times I do feel saying more might hinder it if people do about some things Not always do I feel that way by a long shot, but this is one of those times.
 
I don't know what I saw in the last week or so maybe and meant to come mention it but it was a responsible show, maybe Joe, or may news like Court TV or Vinnie of which I do not "always" think responsible but there was mention that a seventh charge is coming or in the works, and I never heard that from the DA but again it came from a source i'd trust on it, I just can't recall.

Between Delphi hearings, work, more, I meant to come ask if anyone knew or post it that night but never got to it and then forgot with so much other stuff. Never crossed my mind again until right now.

We have six charge right? The first three, then they added Waterman is it an then the new two which showed he was active and responsible in a very different time period. So a seventh not yet charged would be additional but supposedly they are close on one...

I wanted to share that as again never crossed my mind again until right now, and has anyone else heard that, or if anyone wants to go look for such, not asking anyone to, but if it is up their alley, we have a seventh in the works from what I heard. And close to being charged. Do I have my count right? Six so far? That means this is another new one coming.
 
Anyhow I can't keep up with the ones I do follow and see nothing here about it so wanted to mention it when it crossed my mind out of the blue just now.

It was not any "fly by night" channel. I don't watch such. It was either Joe or some more TV like source like Vinnie or someone. Nancy? Can't recall. Duty Ron? He does this case. Don't watch a lot of his those. Just saying it was not on some show they did not have it from the DA or something. And IF so, where is it here? If the DA actually said such or they got it from somewhere reliable? Was there a PC or something all missed?

But anyhow who will be that one...
 
Updated.
I make this a total of 19 victims.

**Sandra Costillo 1993
Karen Vergata missing Feb 14th 1996
Asa E pregnant Feb 1996
Alicia Reynolds, 2nd March 1996, VA
"Peaches" discovered in 1997
(Baby "Peaches" discovered April 2011)
***Valerie Mack Spring/Summer 2000
**Jessica Taylor missing July 21st 2003
Jodie Brewer, 19, Aug 2006, Las Vegas
Kim Raffo, 35, 21st Nov 2006
Tracy Ann Roberts, 23, Oct 2006
Barbara Breidor, 42, Nov 2006
Molly Dilts, 19, Nov 2006
(Above four victims from Atlantic City )
*Maureen Brainard-Barnes July 2007
*Melissa Barthelemy July 2009
Shannan Gilbert May 2010 disc Dec 2011
*Megan Waterman June 2010.
*Amber Costello 2nd Sept 2010
Suspect and vehicle described Sep 2010
Asian male discovered April 2011
Pick-up registered to brother in SC 2012
Aaliyah Bell, Rock Hill, SC Nov 2014

Notes
J. Burke Suffolk Police Chief 2012-2015
R. Harrison Suffolk Police Chief Jan 2022
*RexH arrest July 2023
**RexH additional charges June 2024
***RexH POI June 2024
Below are the ones that haven't been charged yet, so I think it could be Karen or Valerie that gets charged next. What do you think?

Karen Vergata missing Feb 14th 1996
Alicia Reynolds, 2nd March 1996, VA
"Peaches" discovered in 1997
(Baby "Peaches" discovered April 2011)
***Valerie Mack Spring/Summer 2000
Jodie Brewer, 19, Aug 2006, Las Vegas
Kim Raffo, 35, 21st Nov 2006
Tracy Ann Roberts, 23, Oct 2006
Barbara Breidor, 42, Nov 2006
Molly Dilts, 19, Nov 2006
(Above four victims from Atlantic City )
Shannan Gilbert May 2010 disc Dec 2011
Asian male discovered April 2011
Aaliyah Bell, Rock Hill, SC Nov 2014

*** RH declared a POI in June 2023.
 
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Below are the ones that haven't been charged yet, so I think it could be Karen or Valerie that gets charged next. What do you think?

Karen Vergata missing Feb 14th 1996
Alicia Reynolds, 2nd March 1996, VA
"Peaches" discovered in 1997
(Baby "Peaches" discovered April 2011)
***Valerie Mack Spring/Summer 2000
Jodie Brewer, 19, Aug 2006, Las Vegas
Kim Raffo, 35, 21st Nov 2006 ditto
Tracy Ann Roberts, 23, Oct 2006 ditto
Barbara Breidor, 42, Nov 2006 ditto
Molly Dilts, 19, Nov 2006 ditto
(Above four victims from Atlantic City )
Shannan Gilbert May 2010 disc Dec 2011
Asian male discovered April 2011
Aaliyah Bell, Rock Hill, SC Nov 2014

*** RH declared a POI in June 2023.
My GUESS would be Valerie Mack because even though I get all of the victims, dates and where found confused, isn't she the other one that was Manorville or wherever it was the last one had to do with that people were speculating on and thought might be forthcoming. Right now, sadly I am drawing a blank on the last new charge/the name, I KNOW too, but tired beyond tired. And that one showed he did at least one in the other time period.

I tend to think it won't be an out of state one and won't be Vergata either because I don't know what they are doing with that but we've had no hints that way at all on their most recent searches, etc. BUT they did seem to almost make a point to tie an different time frame victim in and so maybe they would next try to tie an out of state one in... Because that would definitely draw in the feds...

I don't know but do think most likely Valerie Mack. But it truly could be any. I think Gilbert is the least likely because they still won't classify her the same or even talk of looking at it and I dont' believe they are quite honestly. Sadly.

Karen IS a possibility since they did another search on the home. And we know the story has her last seen in the home...

But his manifesto or whatever it is called gives major hints that he took plenty home most likely to torture... I'd call it a planning document which fits the architect in him...

However that search could have resulted in ample evidence of more than one victim by far too. Those results though are probably both being processed, documented if they have any and looked over carefully and assessed. I think it relates to things before the second home search and actually they didn't charge one more, they charged two more than the Gilgo "four" now as they call the first ones right. Man I am just tired and it is a hard one to keep all straight. And again, drawing a blank on the names. Thinking I know one but don't want to say it and be wrong and they all matter, so I hate I can't keep the places, manners of death, years, names, etc. all straight yet.

What do you think?

Man so little time. Just realized my phone needs charging before I could even think of going to bed which I should be doing in the next not so long of time if I was smart. So just now plugged it in. Either going to have almost no sleep or no time to do the things I need to. The getting done at 4 will be nice at the end of it but then it takes a whole day off to get over the last two or more I swear, or both of them. Sigh.

This/these cases will be going on forever imo and beyond our lifetime even. As to the rest of his life, other areas and so much more. I really think that. What I mean is they still look at possible others for Dennis Rader and how many years later is this? Seriously....

and for many serial killers long after imprisoned.

It is going to keep on giving though. Maybe not every day or even every month but every so often, they've barely begun imo... And they have a ton of evidence imo, to go through and put together and more...

Someone like him intending to take this to trial is absolutely maddening to me with what they have against him. Why doesn't he just plead guilty so he can be rushed off to somewhere that may have real butter? Just saying....

Of course with an ex wife wanting to get dollars, time and shows out of it....
 
I really shouldn't be surprised and guess I'm not. But they haven't really said as much and that's a first...

I think it makes sense when a serial killer is found or nailed and nowadays with DNA and cell phone technology and all to submit any unsolved murder that could even possibly fit and even out of state since this one traveled.

I've said a few times this one will likely be going on and finding more victims beyond our time on earth here and his quite possibly.

BUT until now no LE or news has actually said this...

Personally I think he is going to turn out to be one of the most prolific but again don't know if we will be alive to see that.

It will be going on and other cases looked at for years on end imo... Decades possibly. Heck they were just looking at more possible with Dennis Rader and how long ago was that now? I'd have to look it up. 30 or more years maybe??
 
It's just not my day. I see no sign of Tom scheduling a show and I am certain he said PROBABLY around 6 tonight. Not sure what time zone he is in but usually he puts them up at least a day ahead or hours ahead and I have found nothing...

I could really use some distraction from things that aren't helping me to think on.

There are a ton of interviews out in the Soto case but I don't think I can take them right now. Tom I could take, in this case.

Anyone heard ANYTHING on this hearing yet?

Perhaps it is still ongoing...
 
Latest on CB. This article is graphic. It says that the victims Jessica Taylor and Sandra Costello were found quite quickly after death so they have a lot of evidence from their bodies that they did not have from the other bodies. They also say he is the prime suspect in the murder of Valerie Mack so we will end up with seven victims here at least. I won't copy pasta due to the descriptions.

 
It's just not my day. I see no sign of Tom scheduling a show and I am certain he said PROBABLY around 6 tonight. Not sure what time zone he is in but usually he puts them up at least a day ahead or hours ahead and I have found nothing...

I could really use some distraction from things that aren't helping me to think on.

There are a ton of interviews out in the Soto case but I don't think I can take them right now. Tom I could take, in this case.

Anyone heard ANYTHING on this hearing yet?

Perhaps it is still ongoing...
Apparently I was in the wrong thread with this one. I'd move it but it would be out of order at this point. Since most in there and here are the same people, just going to leave it. Could delete too I guess.
 
Latest on CB. This article is graphic. It says that the victims Jessica Taylor and Sandra Costello were found quite quickly after death so they have a lot of evidence from their bodies that they did not have from the other bodies. They also say he is the prime suspect in the murder of Valerie Mack so we will end up with seven victims here at least. I won't copy pasta due to the descriptions.


I think there's more than 7. I wouldn't be surprised if it triple digits from all around the U.S.
 
Latest on CB. This article is graphic. It says that the victims Jessica Taylor and Sandra Costello were found quite quickly after death so they have a lot of evidence from their bodies that they did not have from the other bodies. They also say he is the prime suspect in the murder of Valerie Mack so we will end up with seven victims here at least. I won't copy pasta due to the descriptions.

Have to read yet but would seem to confirm or strongly suggest Mack IS the next one coming. Just from what you say here. CB should just plead guilty and expect no plea negotiations but maybe he could ask for one pound of butter out of it. Not sure he'd get it, but really it would be a small price to pay and I wouldn't even argue giving him ONE in exchange for guilty pleas.

But just one!

Going to read.
 
I guess I'm not. Paywall. Only 25c but I know how that goes once signed up.

I may be able to access on my phone on break versus the laptop here. But then won't have time or a decent screen to read it on.
 
I guess I'm not. Paywall. Only 25c but I know how that goes once signed up.

I may be able to access on my phone on break versus the laptop here. But then won't have time or a decent screen to read it on.
It let me read it the first time but when i just went in again it asked for the 25c. I'll see if i can bypass it and post the details on the graphic thread.

No it won't let me in a second time. It was basically saying that because the bodies were found soon after the murders, they have more evidence. If anyone else gets in, perhaps they can copy the article.
 
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It let me read it the first time but when i just went in again it asked for the 25c. I'll see if i can bypass it and post the details on the graphic thread.
I think my browser may plan in too and or/settings. Miss the days I had no YT ads, etc. and think a lot has to do with that.

Yeah, I'd like to read it. Don't need the graphic but then we've had plenty of such already in these cases. I can take. I think.
 
I think my browser may plan in too and or/settings. Miss the days I had no YT ads, etc. and think a lot has to do with that.

Yeah, I'd like to read it. Don't need the graphic but then we've had plenty of such already in these cases. I can take. I think.
They actually have a male hair on one of these recent ones that is a 99.9% match to Heuermann and it was stuck to the plastic sheeting the remains were wrapped in . Cannot remember which one it was though.
 
They actually have a male hair on one of these recent ones that is a 99.9% match to Heuermann and it was stuck to the plastic sheeting the remains were wrapped in . Cannot remember which one it was though.
Well it is all slow but sure and going to keep coming I'm sure. More and more charges, etc. Over likely years on end.

I think he is going to end up one of the most prolific of all time or at least up there plenty high as to numbers and years. And areas most likely. Jmo.

You know the dumb subscription things drive me nuts. I mean I'll pay a quarter/25c but we all know then you are on a temporary thing and need to take the time to remember to cancel before you end up with a real subscription and are automatically paying more. I hate that game and don't have the time to remember to cancel and so on.

I have an $11 subscription right now coming out of my checking monthly that was like packaged in with another service I use that I never asked for and have never used and have been paying for for over a year. So much going on that is not at the top of my list of finding a number and way to cancel!!

It's such bullsheet this stuff goes on. I mean if you want to be a paid news source, FINE. Or paid anything. Quit with the if you don't cancel, automatically subscribed. HOW about if I don't then subscribe for a year, you let the 25 cents time or limited articles expire and then I'm automatically not subscribed if I did not join up further after that?

Always geared to them and never to the consumer...

Rant over lol.
 
Well it is all slow but sure and going to keep coming I'm sure. More and more charges, etc. Over likely years on end.

I think he is going to end up one of the most prolific of all time or at least up there plenty high as to numbers and years. And areas most likely. Jmo.

You know the dumb subscription things drive me nuts. I mean I'll pay a quarter/25c but we all know then you are on a temporary thing and need to take the time to remember to cancel before you end up with a real subscription and are automatically paying more. I hate that game and don't have the time to remember to cancel and so on.

I have an $11 subscription right now coming out of my checking monthly that was like packaged in with another service I use that I never asked for and have never used and have been paying for for over a year. So much going on that is not at the top of my list of finding a number and way to cancel!!

It's such bullsheet this stuff goes on. I mean if you want to be a paid news source, FINE. Or paid anything. Quit with the if you don't cancel, automatically subscribed. HOW about if I don't then subscribe for a year, you let the 25 cents time or limited articles expire and then I'm automatically not subscribed if I did not join up further after that?

Always geared to them and never to the consumer...

Rant over lol.
Cancel it by writing to or emailing your bank.

I don't pay s*** to read news. They get revenue from ads so it is all bull anyway.
 

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