Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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Wife files for divorce.

That’s very telling! Has the wife of the Delphi murder suspect filed for divorce? Not to go off topic, I was just trying to make a point that they don’t always file for divorce after an arrest.

I wonder if this wife is going to testify against RH?
 
That was a second truck they picked up in SC.

See below links, a black one and a green one. The green one is the one he owned at the time of the murders. I am assuming the black one is a newer vehicle and the older green one he kept for use in SC.


I thought so at first but then some news, etc. I think is confused by it and muddied it but the point is the one he was using at the time of these murders was in SC. Maybe for farm use sure but just as likely the reason is to "hide" it in a far away remote property hardly seen from the road and covered with no trespass signs, etc. Lol heard the SC property described like that. and very well could be true.

There is always and will be lots gotten wrong especially in the beginning here, when don't we see that? I will say though most YTers and average podcasters etc. get right far more often than the news but I've seen errors in both. And we make them too I guess.

He could have used the truck as a trade in or sold it but instead took it all the way to SC. I mean I guess that's explainable, a probably paid off truck taken or kept to use on your own property. Uh huh in this case? Selling it or trading it may have worried him of course. Far more likely I think. I'd be interested in the time frame. ahd when it was last in his possession in NY, not that records would necessarily show that. If he always had ownership he likely just retired it to SC with no indication as to when. Wife would likely know though and it does sound as if she's been cooperative.

I remember the statement in the PC about one of the good things about calling in their LE partners, the FEDS. They had the ability/authority to get the truck from SC but he didn't (was it the police commissioner, can't recall, one of the lead people).

In the video I posted which has some good info and a lot of interesting discussion, last night I finally finished it and they touched on the truck. The key one imo is the one at the time of the murders, the old one. Joel had it wrong which I don't find common in him and said the description came from Amber. They continued this though to towards the end of the video with the guests taking it as accepted fact. But by the end, I really was wondering about it...We aren't told everything and you know, she too may have seen the truck on his first visit the day of the ruse... But it makes no sense really as she'd have no reason and wouldn't have been alive nor have any reason to describe the truck to LE or even to anyone so they really missed on that one, it makes no sense the description came from her.. Unless she said to her pimp/bf or whatever he is something about his vehicle and they discussed it. VERY unlikely. So things are definitely gotten wrong by all at times and his entire panel seemed to go with it and it didn't strike them that the description couldn't have likely been from her. Still a good video though. The older woman also was not entirely up on every detail of the case at times and you could tell but still very good hearing her insight. Kerri (hate calling her BTK's daughter) also was interesting to hear her thoughts, especially on the dolls and her father with them and Rex with them... Etc.
 
"Macedonia didn't agree to make any comments when questioned if Ellerup knew of her husband's alleged crimes and if she had spoken to him since his arrest. As of now, Ellerup has not been charged with the crimes, as investigators stated that she had been traveling to Maryland, New Jersey, and Iceland during the suspected murders of the sex workers. However, previously it was revealed that her hair strands were found inside the burlap material used to wrap a victim's body, and his wife's hair allegedly helped investigators link Rex to the bodies."


Interesting. If you click on the first picture in this, I did to see it bigger, it takes you to Fox News but and while a similar article, way more pictures. In one the daughter has a different sweater on or jacket. Is this the son? Carrying A & W root beer it looks like. I could go into the pictures some but that's the surface side of people, me included, that want to discuss the nitty gritty sometimes. Wife has a cane. Victoria likes mixing colors, etc. I don't think it's even been confirmed that the son is a stepson has it? Daughter changing top sweater or adding one, etc. Dumb stuff like what is the box she is carrying, what did they buy? He didn't get the root beer at Best Buy did he? Anyhow, the piddly stuff that probably doesn't matter but that is gotten into just as most, myself included, have gotten into how Lori Vallow looks, whether she has access to makeup, how bad her jail lipstick is and how she curls her hair etc.

I say all that to come to the couple of bigger points here (but Fox does have more pics of them) and more of an article.

First, in one of the articles or both, whatever, it says all were at home in Massapequa when officers came as Rex was taken down or just after ensuring he couldn't call or warn anyone, simulatneous almost, coordinated. Why? I mean I guess I am wondering if both adult children still lived at home and the wife too and this was not unusual? I never would have thought this likely that all would be there. I figured it more likely close to the time or day, they were all found, taken in to be told what was about to occur and telling and ensuring where all were and bringing them together as his arrest was executed about the same time. That would explain them all being home and we had no reason I know of to even think the son or daughter lived there.

Second, her hairs were found INSIDE the camo? That is the other takeaway I have. I believe both articles said this. But I think the article linked here was taking most of their article from Fox, etc. Clearly the linked one sensationalizes a bit and made the headline, etc. to hint at was she involved. Maybe more than a bit.

As to the divorce, yeah, she'd better be covering herself and saving anything she can and just due to the hairs, distancing herself from him with a clear divide. Do I believe they haven't talked? No. And didn't it say uncontested? And that could save assets to help with his defense, assets that should maybe go to victim settlements...

If all of them lived at home together and always have then I have a different set of questions and leaning than I would if not. All were at home when cops showed up... I do think again this could have been coordinated so that would be the case, but no one knows...
 
Vegas PD are reviewing their unsolved cases. His DNA has been uploaded to help solve other NY cases.

Yeah I read it was in NY. Why have we not heard it is being uploaded into a national database? Has some b.s. started there now where there needs to be some bunch of red tape? I've had so little time but know I read it is being compared in NY and I would have thought it would have instantly went into a national thing but I'm tired and just trying to catch up.... Thoughts?
 
That’s very telling! Has the wife of the Delphi murder suspect filed for divorce? Not to go off topic, I was just trying to make a point that they don’t always file for divorce after an arrest.

I wonder if this wife is going to testify against RH?
I don't think so in Delphi but she damned well should. Then there is the Doerman one, has SHE? He killed their sons. First off, even though reeling, they need to protect themselves and not have anything the alleged perp can tap and can go to the victims although DO NOT GET ME WRONG if they do it to protect assets but still defend their husband, etc. and protect the assets so he can have a private defense, then this is crooked imo. Even in the ones where the wife knows heartbroken or not to cut ties and fast and clean as possible, I am sure they are walking a minefield. Their homes are generally immediately taken over for searches and they need to live elsewhere and so on.

I think it remains to be seen what the reasons are. I am still thrown a bit that she was in court or attended. Unless in support of your husband. And if shell shocked you don't immediately pick up and are able to generally and aren't even aware of the legal process or that something happens that quickly, etc. I know this from our case and we had been waiting for an arrest and yet had hardly gathered ourselves to even know there would be a bond hearing and then a reduced bond before we even attended a thing. And from that point on we scrambled and never missed one over three years. And we knew or hoped it was coming.

To me this meant she was supporting him (being there) or sure was not as shocked and quickly came to grips with it, was done with him, filed divorce, etc.

Of course this one is a bit different than Delphi in that her hairs were found.

Who knows...

I think generally even if they want to support the spouse, the smart thing to do would be to divorce, get half the assets if they can, and then all is not taken. But it p*sses me off when they do that so that and then they have assets from the marriage should the perp need them for defense. To protect themselves and divorce and move on? YES. Only fair. To save them for him or to assure victims can't get them while they help him? NO.
 
That was a second truck they picked up in SC.

See below links, a black one and a green one. The green one is the one he owned at the time of the murders. I am assuming the black one is a newer vehicle and the older green one he kept for use in SC.



Thanks, there's also a link to this documentary that I haven't watched yet:

 
Go figure, a helluva lot of deadline sh*t going on here, finally a day off and no one can respond to anything, the elevator out for the foreseeable futrue with no idea when there will be one again or a fixed one, and more.

But before all that early this morning, I barely started watching a Grizzly vid.

Only got a few minutes in before real life butted in but Rex's mom is said to be still alive and 95. That means she had him later in life. He is 59.. You know my dad was older when I came along but my mom was younger, she wasn't in her late 30s. No idea the dad's age but he died when Rex was 11. Also no idea if Rex''s brother is older or younger but I am wondering if Rex was a tagalong. I don't know about anyone else but just in my own childhood I knew of many families that happened in and birth control was just becoming available other than sterilization in the few year after, etc. I had an aunt who had one. Had a neighbor, my best friend's family, who has one child well after the other many. Etc. I an name others. Actuallly I had two aunts that did. Not all pleased since their brood otherwise was getting into later childhood. The only way to avoid pregnancy was to have a no sex thing with your husband pretty much at that point.

In one case I knew of in my life, the mom was very unhappy about it and the having to start over raising a child. And it was known through his childhood I'd say and blamed her husband, etc. The child had to know. Yet as he got older and grew up, and he had acting out issues throughout, she became almost a helicopter mom, the more issues he had. But in his younger years things were probably more so not that way. I LOVED her so much i did but this is what we saw. His older siblings never a blip, maybe the regular stuff anyone deals with but no, they got to adulthood, married, etc. He to this day still has never quite come into adulthood I guess you'd say. He's no serial killer but I am just saying...

I am wondering about the late age his mother had him at in this case. You know in those years, the 60s that was even questioned as to if the child would have issues and the mother was considered too old to have a child safely, etc. without issues to the child or mother.

Anyhow just some random thoughts.

Crybaby Shrek only had one child too and not early on in adulthood. One child that we KNOW of anyhow.

I don't know my pointbut imo there are never excuses basically but I think the serial killer psychologists will delve into these kinds of things and more.
 
From three days ago:


Don't take offense and don't take me wrong but this is three days old which is ancient in this case and I don't eve have time to keep up, there isn't one thing new about it and the only thing about it is CNN got him on, go figure they'd go on MSM and yet with that they are safe because it gets safe questions and the dumbest one I've heard so far. She asks him when do you think this will go to trial, what is the time frame? DUH. What's he going to say on this case or ANY, like they know. Oh next month dear. Oh I'm sure it will be tried in January, no doubt. DUMB QUESTION.

There is nothing on here that is worth the time to listen to and even if one watched three days ago wouldn't have been of interest. You really need to watch something other than MSM and especially the ones American based. I'm surprised they are still in business since even YTers do a better job and they don't have access to the likes of the DA is he? Or Police Chief? These are all just dog and pony shows and and even them having him on, they have less info than others because they aren't on it and dumb questions.

They still exist as they are bought and paid for and their agenda isn't crime or research nor are they given money to travel or be real reporters. There's a reason Nate Eaton for instance has been the big one back in Hawaii in the Daybell case. A reason for Justin Lum too. A reason for Lauren Scharf in Morphew. Some yes are affiliates but also some have left since and are branching more into the YT and such like Nate. The little news org on Murdaugh. And more.

I have no time and there was not a thing in here worth my wasting my time on. Other than i guess they can show they have the notable LE guy on and CNN snagged him lol is that a surprise, but offer not a bit of anything but a nothing not already known burger, or for certain nothing new eeven then, and they use their time to ask really dumb questions we already had the answers to even three days ago.
 
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The older woman in the YT discussion of this case I posted above was in the discussion of supposedly crying when arrested and saying he didn't do it and they were discussing whether he was really crying and all said they'd have to see it, and see the arrest, etc. and I agree.

But I bring that up to give context, in discussing this at a point she said you know as far as serial killers getting nicknames, she joked that maybe his should be Crybaby. I agree. I like it because they want and he wants a big bad name, it's what serial killers want.

I like ogre and I get your Shrek too but I think I may like BIG Crybaby best. I added BIG lol.
BigBaby or CryBaby would both be good.
 
That’s very telling! Has the wife of the Delphi murder suspect filed for divorce? Not to go off topic, I was just trying to make a point that they don’t always file for divorce after an arrest.

I wonder if this wife is going to testify against RH?
Re Delphi, not as far as I know but he confessed to her and his mother over the phone so she may be a witness for the prosecution because of that.
 
Go figure, a helluva lot of deadline sh*t going on here, finally a day off and no one can respond to anything, the elevator out for the foreseeable futrue with no idea when there will be one again or a fixed one, and more.

But before all that early this morning, I barely started watching a Grizzly vid.

Only got a few minutes in before real life butted in but Rex's mom is said to be still alive and 95. That means she had him later in life. He is 59.. You know my dad was older when I came along but my mom was younger, she wasn't in her late 30s. No idea the dad's age but he died when Rex was 11. Also no idea if Rex''s brother is older or younger but I am wondering if Rex was a tagalong. I don't know about anyone else but just in my own childhood I knew of many families that happened in and birth control was just becoming available other than sterilization in the few year after, etc. I had an aunt who had one. Had a neighbor, my best friend's family, who has one child well after the other many. Etc. I an name others. Actuallly I had two aunts that did. Not all pleased since their brood otherwise was getting into later childhood. The only way to avoid pregnancy was to have a no sex thing with your husband pretty much at that point.

In one case I knew of in my life, the mom was very unhappy about it and the having to start over raising a child. And it was known through his childhood I'd say and blamed her husband, etc. The child had to know. Yet as he got older and grew up, and he had acting out issues throughout, she became almost a helicopter mom, the more issues he had. But in his younger years things were probably more so not that way. I LOVED her so much i did but this is what we saw. His older siblings never a blip, maybe the regular stuff anyone deals with but no, they got to adulthood, married, etc. He to this day still has never quite come into adulthood I guess you'd say. He's no serial killer but I am just saying...

I am wondering about the late age his mother had him at in this case. You know in those years, the 60s that was even questioned as to if the child would have issues and the mother was considered too old to have a child safely, etc. without issues to the child or mother.

Anyhow just some random thoughts.

Crybaby Shrek only had one child too and not early on in adulthood. One child that we KNOW of anyhow.

I don't know my pointbut imo there are never excuses basically but I think the serial killer psychologists will delve into these kinds of things and more.
Age 36 is not later in life to have a baby IMO. (If she is 95 and he is 59 that is only 36 years different.)

I think the risk of a Down's syndrome child is greater with older mums.
 
Don't take offense and don't take me wrong but this is three days old which is ancient in this case and I don't eve have time to keep up, there isn't one thing new about it and the only thing about it is CNN got him on, go figure they'd go on MSM and yet with that they are safe because it gets safe questions and the dumbest one I've heard so far. She asks him when do you think this will go to trial, what is the time frame? DUH. What's he going to say on this case or ANY, like they know. Oh next month dear. Oh I'm sure it will be tried in January, no doubt. DUMB QUESTION.

There is nothing on here that is worth the time to listen to and even if one watched three days ago wouldn't have been of interest. You really need to watch something other than MSM and especially the ones American based. I'm surprised they are still in business since even YTers do a better job and they don't have access to the likes of the DA is he? Or Police Chief? These are all just dog and pony shows and and even them having him on, they have less info than others because they aren't on it and dumb questions.

They still exist as they are bought and paid for and their agenda isn't crime or research nor are they given money to travel or be real reporters. There's a reason Nate Eaton for instance has been the big one back in Hawaii in the Daybell case. A reason for Justin Lum too. A reason for Lauren Scharf in Morphew. Some yes are affiliates but also some have left since and are branching more into the YT and such like Nate. The little news org on Murdaugh. And more.

I have no time and there was not a thing in here worth my wasting my time on. Other than i guess they can show they have the notable LE guy on and CNN snagged him lol is that a surprise, but offer not a bit of anything but a nothing not already known burger, or for certain nothing new eeven then, and they use their time to ask really dumb questions we already had the answers to even three days ago.

Is 21 hours too long a time?

 
Yeah I read it was in NY. Why have we not heard it is being uploaded into a national database? Has some b.s. started there now where there needs to be some bunch of red tape? I've had so little time but know I read it is being compared in NY and I would have thought it would have instantly went into a national thing but I'm tired and just trying to catch up.... Thoughts?
Maybe there is no national database, only state ones?

They are looking at Crybaby for the four Atlantic City prostitute murders from 2006. It's only 168 miles from his home.

 

Holy 💩 ⚽'s. I was really hoping they wouldn't find anything. But thinking that most likely they would. I fear we haven't seen the worst yet. There were enough victims already. One was too many. And his age tells me he has been doing this, From the textbook example of age of starting to kill. About early twenties to mid thirties. This guy could have started at age 22 for example. 37 years ago. 1986.
 
Maybe there is no national database, only state ones?

They are looking at Crybaby for the four Atlantic City prostitute murders from 2006. It's only 168 miles from his home.

Cry baby. 😆
 
Maybe there is no national database, only state ones?

They are looking at Crybaby for the four Atlantic City prostitute murders from 2006. It's only 168 miles from his home.


There is a national database. It took a long time to come online, but it exists.
 

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