Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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As I understand it, the burner phones were able to be tracked because he had his real phone with him at the same times. So they could put his phone with the calls made from the burner phones together.
Yeah I agree but at what point in all these years were they able to do that I think is the question. For me anyhow. Tech and tracking has changed so much as to towers and you name it through the years. And we are not talking of a lightly populated area. Even IF this was formerly really investigated fully, this case, which we all know didn't seem to be, could they have done this?
 
Yeah I agree but at what point in all these years were they able to do that I think is the question. For me anyhow. Tech and tracking has changed so much as to towers and you name it through the years. And we are not talking of a lightly populated area. Even IF this was formerly really investigated fully, this case, which we all know didn't seem to be, could they have done this?

I think most of the investigation started with the new DA two years ago. So I'd bank on it being recently.
 

Mother of missing Buffalo woman helped kick-start investigation of serial killer of Gilgo Beach​

Dan Herbeck , Lou Michel
Jul 23, 2023

In the summer of 2009, a 15-year-old Buffalo girl received disturbing phone calls from a man who taunted her about her missing older sister.
What made the calls especially scary was that the caller was using the cellphone owned by the missing woman, Melissa M. Barthelemy, 24.
At one point, according to police, the caller bragged that he had sexually assaulted Barthelemy and then killed her.
Today, those phone calls to Amanda Funderburg and other members of her Buffalo family are cited as important evidence in the murder case against accused serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, a Manhattan architect and Long Island resident.

Suffolk County police on July 13 charged the 59-year-old Heuermann with murdering Barthelemy and two other young women, all described in court papers as sex workers. Prosecutors also call Heuermann the “prime suspect” in the murder of a fourth female sex worker.

Heuermann denies the murder allegations.
The victims’ bodies were found buried in burlap cloth along Gilgo Beach on Long Island, not far from the suspect’s home. A massive investigation is continuing into the deaths of five other people found buried at Gilgo Beach, including those of a man, three women and a toddler.

Potentially, the serial killer case could go much further.

“Now that we have his DNA, we are checking with cities all over the country, to see if there could be any connection to other unsolved murders,” said State Police acting Superintendent Steven A. Nigrelli, whose investigators serve on a task force probing the murders and helped arrest Heuermann. “The task force is checking into unsolved killings in all the places where Heuermann traveled over the years.”
Barthelemy was a former Buffalo resident who was living in New York City when she disappeared in July 2009.

The taunting phone calls allegedly made by Heuermann to Barthelemy’s family in Buffalo in July and August of 2009 were mentioned several times in court papers filed by the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office in connection with the arrest.



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Rex Heuermann, a Long Island architect, has been charged with murder in the deaths of three of the 11 victims in a long-unsolved string of killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders including Western New York native Melissa Barthelemy, 24, who had been living in the Bronx.
Associated Press via Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office

The court document states that calls using Barthelemy’s cellphone were linked to cellphone towers in areas close to Heuermann’s Manhattan office and Long Island home.

The court papers allege that the suspected killer also used Barthelemy’s phone to check her voice messages on July 11 and July 12, 2009.
“On July 17, July 23, August 5, August 19, and August 26, 2009, the Barthelemy phone made taunting phone calls to Ms. Barthelemy’s family members, some of which resulted in a conversation between the caller, who was a male, and a relative of Melissa Barthelemy, in which the male caller admitted killing and sexually assaulting Ms. Barthelemy,” the court papers say.


Undersheriff remembers case

News reports on Heuermann’s arrest brought back memories for former Erie County Undersheriff Richard T. Donovan and his former administrative assistant, Marilynn Calhoun-Allen.
In interviews with The Buffalo News, they both recalled the anguished calls they received in 2009 from Lynn Barthelemy, the missing woman’s mother, after her daughter vanished.
Lynn Barthelemy was “extremely upset, very frustrated” and convinced that something terrible had happened to her daughter, but she said police agencies were skeptical because her daughter had worked as a prostitute, Donovan recalled.

“She told me she had called the New York City police and other police agencies and nobody would take her seriously. Nobody would even take a missing person’s report,” Calhoun-Allen said. “I told her, my boss was out to lunch, and that he’d call her when he got back. She said, ‘No, he won’t. Nobody calls me back.’ I told her, ‘He will.’ ”


Barthelemy’s mother was “crying and sobbing, and it really hurt me to hear that,” Calhoun-Allen said. “I’m a mom, too, and I could only try to imagine what she was going through.”
Attorney Steven M. Cohen, who represented the Barthelemy family, told The News in 2011 that New York City police had a policy at the time of not investigating missing persons for 10 days and that because Barthelemy worked as a “hooker,” detectives would not be assigned to the case.
That policy led a desperate Lynn Barthelemy to call the Erie County Sheriff’s Office, pleading for help.
Donovan remembers talking to Barthelemy’s mother and quickly realizing that her fears were genuine. “I was our liaison with NYPD and I had some friends in their Intelligence Unit,” the retired undersheriff said. “I called them, and to their credit, they took it very seriously, and immediately contacted the mother.”



The NYPD investigators were especially interested because the taunting calls had come from the phone of the missing woman, Donovan said.

He and Calhoun-Allen said they are proud to have played a small part in the early stages of an investigation that led to the capture of an alleged serial killer. Both said they have been following developments in the case over the past 14 years.


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Authorities search the home of murder suspect Rex Heuermann on July 18 in Massapequa Park. Detectives investigating the long-unsolved slayings known as the Gilgo Beach killings have continued their searches, recently including a storage facility in the Long Island community of Amityville.
Associated Press
A break leads to arrest
According to Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison, a major break in the investigation occurred recently when a State Police investigator determined that Heuermann in 2010 owned a Chevrolet Avalanche truck like one that was spotted in a neighborhood where one of the sex workers had vanished.

That information about the truck put Heuermann onto the radar of the Gilgo Beach task force, and they began investigating the architect’s travels, computer searches and phone records, police said.

Heuermann is accused of burying victims along a remote beach on Long Island’s south shore. Prosecutors said Barthelemy’s body was the first one found, on Dec. 11, 2010, by a K-9 police officer conducting a training exercise with his dog.

Two days later, the remains of the three other women were unearthed. In the coming months, police would recover a total of nine bodies.
According to a court document filed by prosecutors, the four women, all of them petite in stature, were found in graves “similarly positioned, bound in a similar fashion by either belts or tape, with three of the victims found wrapped in a burlap-type material.”

The court document does not specify how the killer murdered the women, only referring to “homicidal violence.” Besides the phone calls, authorities say they have other evidence, including DNA, that connects Heuermann to the slayings.

Barthelemy’s family
Barthelemy’s parents spoke to The Buffalo News in 2011, shortly after their daughter’s remains were positively identified by police. At that time, they declined to go into detail about what was said on the phone to Barthelemy’s younger sister, except that it was “horrible.”


The family said Barthelemy had graduated in 2003 from South Park High School and, later, the Continental Beauty School. After working at a Buffalo haircut shop, she had moved to New York City with dreams of one day owning a beauty salon.
The family also said they were aware that in New York City, she worked as an exotic dancer. They speculated that it was to make money to pay rent and other living expenses.

After she disappeared, the family said, her younger sister informed them that Barthelemy had confided to her that she had become an escort.
Her family told The News in 2011 that their last contact with her was in a text sent to her teenage sister late on the night of July 9, 2009.

Barthelemy was last seen alive the next day, prosecutors said.
The family has said little publicly since the arrest, except for a few comments to media outlets in the New York City area after the arrest of the alleged serial killer.
Amanda Funderburg, the younger sister, said the mystery caller using her sister’s phone belittled and disparaged Barthelemy for her line of work and suggested that he might someday tell her where her sister was.

“He killed Melissa after having sex with her,” Amanda Funderburg told PIX11-TV in New York City after Heuermann’s arrest. “In the final call, he said he’d killed her.”


Barthelemy’s mother told NBC News reporters in New York City that she wants Heuermann to suffer in prison.
“I’d like him to suffer at the hands of other inmates. Let him receive what the girls received,” Lynn Barthelemy said.
“We knew all along that the phone calls were going to be key,” the mother added, referring to the taunting calls police have linked to Heuermann.
While declining to give interviews this week to The News, Barthelemy’s family issued a statement on Thursday through Cohen.


They expressed gratitude to law enforcement for continuing to pursue the investigation that resulted in the arrest. They said they hope police got the right man.

“The Barthelemy family has held strong for all these years and they are hopeful that the killer has truly been captured,” the family said.
Nigrelli, a Buffalo native, and Donovan, the retired undersheriff, said they hope the arrest brings some kind of closure to a family that has suffered for 14 years.
“Their information was important to the investigation,” Donovan said. “I was very thankful when I heard of the arrest. Anytime you take someone like that off the street, it’s a good feeling. Criminals who do things like that, they don’t stop.”
 
Yeah I agree but at what point in all these years were they able to do that I think is the question. For me anyhow. Tech and tracking has changed so much as to towers and you name it through the years. And we are not talking of a lightly populated area. Even IF this was formerly really investigated fully, this case, which we all know didn't seem to be, could they have done this?


Mother of missing Buffalo woman helped kick-start investigation of serial killer of Gilgo Beach​

Dan Herbeck , Lou Michel
Jul 23, 2023

In the summer of 2009, a 15-year-old Buffalo girl received disturbing phone calls from a man who taunted her about her missing older sister.
What made the calls especially scary was that the caller was using the cellphone owned by the missing woman, Melissa M. Barthelemy, 24.
At one point, according to police, the caller bragged that he had sexually assaulted Barthelemy and then killed her.
Today, those phone calls to Amanda Funderburg and other members of her Buffalo family are cited as important evidence in the murder case against accused serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, a Manhattan architect and Long Island resident.

Suffolk County police on July 13 charged the 59-year-old Heuermann with murdering Barthelemy and two other young women, all described in court papers as sex workers. Prosecutors also call Heuermann the “prime suspect” in the murder of a fourth female sex worker.

Heuermann denies the murder allegations.
The victims’ bodies were found buried in burlap cloth along Gilgo Beach on Long Island, not far from the suspect’s home. A massive investigation is continuing into the deaths of five other people found buried at Gilgo Beach, including those of a man, three women and a toddler.

Potentially, the serial killer case could go much further.

“Now that we have his DNA, we are checking with cities all over the country, to see if there could be any connection to other unsolved murders,” said State Police acting Superintendent Steven A. Nigrelli, whose investigators serve on a task force probing the murders and helped arrest Heuermann. “The task force is checking into unsolved killings in all the places where Heuermann traveled over the years.”
Barthelemy was a former Buffalo resident who was living in New York City when she disappeared in July 2009.

The taunting phone calls allegedly made by Heuermann to Barthelemy’s family in Buffalo in July and August of 2009 were mentioned several times in court papers filed by the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office in connection with the arrest.



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Rex Heuermann, a Long Island architect, has been charged with murder in the deaths of three of the 11 victims in a long-unsolved string of killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders including Western New York native Melissa Barthelemy, 24, who had been living in the Bronx.
Associated Press via Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office

The court document states that calls using Barthelemy’s cellphone were linked to cellphone towers in areas close to Heuermann’s Manhattan office and Long Island home.

The court papers allege that the suspected killer also used Barthelemy’s phone to check her voice messages on July 11 and July 12, 2009.
“On July 17, July 23, August 5, August 19, and August 26, 2009, the Barthelemy phone made taunting phone calls to Ms. Barthelemy’s family members, some of which resulted in a conversation between the caller, who was a male, and a relative of Melissa Barthelemy, in which the male caller admitted killing and sexually assaulting Ms. Barthelemy,” the court papers say.


Undersheriff remembers case

News reports on Heuermann’s arrest brought back memories for former Erie County Undersheriff Richard T. Donovan and his former administrative assistant, Marilynn Calhoun-Allen.
In interviews with The Buffalo News, they both recalled the anguished calls they received in 2009 from Lynn Barthelemy, the missing woman’s mother, after her daughter vanished.
Lynn Barthelemy was “extremely upset, very frustrated” and convinced that something terrible had happened to her daughter, but she said police agencies were skeptical because her daughter had worked as a prostitute, Donovan recalled.

“She told me she had called the New York City police and other police agencies and nobody would take her seriously. Nobody would even take a missing person’s report,” Calhoun-Allen said. “I told her, my boss was out to lunch, and that he’d call her when he got back. She said, ‘No, he won’t. Nobody calls me back.’ I told her, ‘He will.’ ”


Barthelemy’s mother was “crying and sobbing, and it really hurt me to hear that,” Calhoun-Allen said. “I’m a mom, too, and I could only try to imagine what she was going through.”
Attorney Steven M. Cohen, who represented the Barthelemy family, told The News in 2011 that New York City police had a policy at the time of not investigating missing persons for 10 days and that because Barthelemy worked as a “hooker,” detectives would not be assigned to the case.
That policy led a desperate Lynn Barthelemy to call the Erie County Sheriff’s Office, pleading for help.
Donovan remembers talking to Barthelemy’s mother and quickly realizing that her fears were genuine. “I was our liaison with NYPD and I had some friends in their Intelligence Unit,” the retired undersheriff said. “I called them, and to their credit, they took it very seriously, and immediately contacted the mother.”



The NYPD investigators were especially interested because the taunting calls had come from the phone of the missing woman, Donovan said.

He and Calhoun-Allen said they are proud to have played a small part in the early stages of an investigation that led to the capture of an alleged serial killer. Both said they have been following developments in the case over the past 14 years.


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Authorities search the home of murder suspect Rex Heuermann on July 18 in Massapequa Park. Detectives investigating the long-unsolved slayings known as the Gilgo Beach killings have continued their searches, recently including a storage facility in the Long Island community of Amityville.
Associated Press
A break leads to arrest
According to Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison, a major break in the investigation occurred recently when a State Police investigator determined that Heuermann in 2010 owned a Chevrolet Avalanche truck like one that was spotted in a neighborhood where one of the sex workers had vanished.

That information about the truck put Heuermann onto the radar of the Gilgo Beach task force, and they began investigating the architect’s travels, computer searches and phone records, police said.

Heuermann is accused of burying victims along a remote beach on Long Island’s south shore. Prosecutors said Barthelemy’s body was the first one found, on Dec. 11, 2010, by a K-9 police officer conducting a training exercise with his dog.

Two days later, the remains of the three other women were unearthed. In the coming months, police would recover a total of nine bodies.
According to a court document filed by prosecutors, the four women, all of them petite in stature, were found in graves “similarly positioned, bound in a similar fashion by either belts or tape, with three of the victims found wrapped in a burlap-type material.”

The court document does not specify how the killer murdered the women, only referring to “homicidal violence.” Besides the phone calls, authorities say they have other evidence, including DNA, that connects Heuermann to the slayings.

Barthelemy’s family
Barthelemy’s parents spoke to The Buffalo News in 2011, shortly after their daughter’s remains were positively identified by police. At that time, they declined to go into detail about what was said on the phone to Barthelemy’s younger sister, except that it was “horrible.”


The family said Barthelemy had graduated in 2003 from South Park High School and, later, the Continental Beauty School. After working at a Buffalo haircut shop, she had moved to New York City with dreams of one day owning a beauty salon.
The family also said they were aware that in New York City, she worked as an exotic dancer. They speculated that it was to make money to pay rent and other living expenses.

After she disappeared, the family said, her younger sister informed them that Barthelemy had confided to her that she had become an escort.
Her family told The News in 2011 that their last contact with her was in a text sent to her teenage sister late on the night of July 9, 2009.

Barthelemy was last seen alive the next day, prosecutors said.
The family has said little publicly since the arrest, except for a few comments to media outlets in the New York City area after the arrest of the alleged serial killer.
Amanda Funderburg, the younger sister, said the mystery caller using her sister’s phone belittled and disparaged Barthelemy for her line of work and suggested that he might someday tell her where her sister was.

“He killed Melissa after having sex with her,” Amanda Funderburg told PIX11-TV in New York City after Heuermann’s arrest. “In the final call, he said he’d killed her.”


Barthelemy’s mother told NBC News reporters in New York City that she wants Heuermann to suffer in prison.
“I’d like him to suffer at the hands of other inmates. Let him receive what the girls received,” Lynn Barthelemy said.
“We knew all along that the phone calls were going to be key,” the mother added, referring to the taunting calls police have linked to Heuermann.
While declining to give interviews this week to The News, Barthelemy’s family issued a statement on Thursday through Cohen.


They expressed gratitude to law enforcement for continuing to pursue the investigation that resulted in the arrest. They said they hope police got the right man.

“The Barthelemy family has held strong for all these years and they are hopeful that the killer has truly been captured,” the family said.
Nigrelli, a Buffalo native, and Donovan, the retired undersheriff, said they hope the arrest brings some kind of closure to a family that has suffered for 14 years.
“Their information was important to the investigation,” Donovan said. “I was very thankful when I heard of the arrest. Anytime you take someone like that off the street, it’s a good feeling. Criminals who do things like that, they don’t stop.”

That article answers a lot of people's questions about the investigation. Including some of my own.
 

Mother of missing Buffalo woman helped kick-start investigation of serial killer of Gilgo Beach​

Dan Herbeck , Lou Michel
Jul 23, 2023

In the summer of 2009, a 15-year-old Buffalo girl received disturbing phone calls from a man who taunted her about her missing older sister.
What made the calls especially scary was that the caller was using the cellphone owned by the missing woman, Melissa M. Barthelemy, 24.
At one point, according to police, the caller bragged that he had sexually assaulted Barthelemy and then killed her.
Today, those phone calls to Amanda Funderburg and other members of her Buffalo family are cited as important evidence in the murder case against accused serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, a Manhattan architect and Long Island resident.

Suffolk County police on July 13 charged the 59-year-old Heuermann with murdering Barthelemy and two other young women, all described in court papers as sex workers. Prosecutors also call Heuermann the “prime suspect” in the murder of a fourth female sex worker.

Heuermann denies the murder allegations.
The victims’ bodies were found buried in burlap cloth along Gilgo Beach on Long Island, not far from the suspect’s home. A massive investigation is continuing into the deaths of five other people found buried at Gilgo Beach, including those of a man, three women and a toddler.

Potentially, the serial killer case could go much further.

“Now that we have his DNA, we are checking with cities all over the country, to see if there could be any connection to other unsolved murders,” said State Police acting Superintendent Steven A. Nigrelli, whose investigators serve on a task force probing the murders and helped arrest Heuermann. “The task force is checking into unsolved killings in all the places where Heuermann traveled over the years.”
Barthelemy was a former Buffalo resident who was living in New York City when she disappeared in July 2009.

The taunting phone calls allegedly made by Heuermann to Barthelemy’s family in Buffalo in July and August of 2009 were mentioned several times in court papers filed by the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office in connection with the arrest.



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Rex Heuermann, a Long Island architect, has been charged with murder in the deaths of three of the 11 victims in a long-unsolved string of killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders including Western New York native Melissa Barthelemy, 24, who had been living in the Bronx.
Associated Press via Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office

The court document states that calls using Barthelemy’s cellphone were linked to cellphone towers in areas close to Heuermann’s Manhattan office and Long Island home.

The court papers allege that the suspected killer also used Barthelemy’s phone to check her voice messages on July 11 and July 12, 2009.
“On July 17, July 23, August 5, August 19, and August 26, 2009, the Barthelemy phone made taunting phone calls to Ms. Barthelemy’s family members, some of which resulted in a conversation between the caller, who was a male, and a relative of Melissa Barthelemy, in which the male caller admitted killing and sexually assaulting Ms. Barthelemy,” the court papers say.


Undersheriff remembers case

News reports on Heuermann’s arrest brought back memories for former Erie County Undersheriff Richard T. Donovan and his former administrative assistant, Marilynn Calhoun-Allen.
In interviews with The Buffalo News, they both recalled the anguished calls they received in 2009 from Lynn Barthelemy, the missing woman’s mother, after her daughter vanished.
Lynn Barthelemy was “extremely upset, very frustrated” and convinced that something terrible had happened to her daughter, but she said police agencies were skeptical because her daughter had worked as a prostitute, Donovan recalled.

“She told me she had called the New York City police and other police agencies and nobody would take her seriously. Nobody would even take a missing person’s report,” Calhoun-Allen said. “I told her, my boss was out to lunch, and that he’d call her when he got back. She said, ‘No, he won’t. Nobody calls me back.’ I told her, ‘He will.’ ”


Barthelemy’s mother was “crying and sobbing, and it really hurt me to hear that,” Calhoun-Allen said. “I’m a mom, too, and I could only try to imagine what she was going through.”
Attorney Steven M. Cohen, who represented the Barthelemy family, told The News in 2011 that New York City police had a policy at the time of not investigating missing persons for 10 days and that because Barthelemy worked as a “hooker,” detectives would not be assigned to the case.
That policy led a desperate Lynn Barthelemy to call the Erie County Sheriff’s Office, pleading for help.
Donovan remembers talking to Barthelemy’s mother and quickly realizing that her fears were genuine. “I was our liaison with NYPD and I had some friends in their Intelligence Unit,” the retired undersheriff said. “I called them, and to their credit, they took it very seriously, and immediately contacted the mother.”



The NYPD investigators were especially interested because the taunting calls had come from the phone of the missing woman, Donovan said.

He and Calhoun-Allen said they are proud to have played a small part in the early stages of an investigation that led to the capture of an alleged serial killer. Both said they have been following developments in the case over the past 14 years.


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Authorities search the home of murder suspect Rex Heuermann on July 18 in Massapequa Park. Detectives investigating the long-unsolved slayings known as the Gilgo Beach killings have continued their searches, recently including a storage facility in the Long Island community of Amityville.
Associated Press
A break leads to arrest
According to Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison, a major break in the investigation occurred recently when a State Police investigator determined that Heuermann in 2010 owned a Chevrolet Avalanche truck like one that was spotted in a neighborhood where one of the sex workers had vanished.

That information about the truck put Heuermann onto the radar of the Gilgo Beach task force, and they began investigating the architect’s travels, computer searches and phone records, police said.

Heuermann is accused of burying victims along a remote beach on Long Island’s south shore. Prosecutors said Barthelemy’s body was the first one found, on Dec. 11, 2010, by a K-9 police officer conducting a training exercise with his dog.

Two days later, the remains of the three other women were unearthed. In the coming months, police would recover a total of nine bodies.
According to a court document filed by prosecutors, the four women, all of them petite in stature, were found in graves “similarly positioned, bound in a similar fashion by either belts or tape, with three of the victims found wrapped in a burlap-type material.”

The court document does not specify how the killer murdered the women, only referring to “homicidal violence.” Besides the phone calls, authorities say they have other evidence, including DNA, that connects Heuermann to the slayings.

Barthelemy’s family
Barthelemy’s parents spoke to The Buffalo News in 2011, shortly after their daughter’s remains were positively identified by police. At that time, they declined to go into detail about what was said on the phone to Barthelemy’s younger sister, except that it was “horrible.”


The family said Barthelemy had graduated in 2003 from South Park High School and, later, the Continental Beauty School. After working at a Buffalo haircut shop, she had moved to New York City with dreams of one day owning a beauty salon.
The family also said they were aware that in New York City, she worked as an exotic dancer. They speculated that it was to make money to pay rent and other living expenses.

After she disappeared, the family said, her younger sister informed them that Barthelemy had confided to her that she had become an escort.
Her family told The News in 2011 that their last contact with her was in a text sent to her teenage sister late on the night of July 9, 2009.

Barthelemy was last seen alive the next day, prosecutors said.
The family has said little publicly since the arrest, except for a few comments to media outlets in the New York City area after the arrest of the alleged serial killer.
Amanda Funderburg, the younger sister, said the mystery caller using her sister’s phone belittled and disparaged Barthelemy for her line of work and suggested that he might someday tell her where her sister was.

“He killed Melissa after having sex with her,” Amanda Funderburg told PIX11-TV in New York City after Heuermann’s arrest. “In the final call, he said he’d killed her.”


Barthelemy’s mother told NBC News reporters in New York City that she wants Heuermann to suffer in prison.
“I’d like him to suffer at the hands of other inmates. Let him receive what the girls received,” Lynn Barthelemy said.
“We knew all along that the phone calls were going to be key,” the mother added, referring to the taunting calls police have linked to Heuermann.
While declining to give interviews this week to The News, Barthelemy’s family issued a statement on Thursday through Cohen.


They expressed gratitude to law enforcement for continuing to pursue the investigation that resulted in the arrest. They said they hope police got the right man.

“The Barthelemy family has held strong for all these years and they are hopeful that the killer has truly been captured,” the family said.
Nigrelli, a Buffalo native, and Donovan, the retired undersheriff, said they hope the arrest brings some kind of closure to a family that has suffered for 14 years.
“Their information was important to the investigation,” Donovan said. “I was very thankful when I heard of the arrest. Anytime you take someone like that off the street, it’s a good feeling. Criminals who do things like that, they don’t stop.”
lt is a very good article and I hope that her family can take some much needed comfort in that they did this as much as anyone and that the phone calls and their relentless search for justice were instrumental. It shouldn't have had to be that way and they shouldn't have been ignored or their daughter passed off as she was a sex worker.

I have little doubt even in their distress and grief that they kept better track of the details and phone record and calls than LE did at that time or ever for that matter and that all was fresh in their minds.

Can you even imagine this sister? You have a killer who killed your sister but has access to you? You can't hide from or ignore his calls as you need to know what happened to your sister. And you are a young teen. I'm curious how if at all the system protected her or found help for her to deal with a process her sister's killer having such a sick and twisted interest in her at this age? It didn't, we can be pretty sure.

And it brings me back to the fact they found child porn with his searches. And here he is contacting the younger sister here. Etc., etc.

Her life was changed forever and I have no doubt at her young age she was devastatingly affected and worried about her own safety.

These aren't his only victims. I'd BET ON IT.
 
I don't know, honestly, but I know they remarked on it in the PC I believe. If it did exist it perhaps wasn't as reliable and has come to a point where it is far superior to that. Plus who would they have compared it to?
Well that's a good question. As I recall, they had the one hair attributed to him but now that I think about it, I'm not sure those results (he couldn't be excluded) would be sufficient.

To your third answer, yes, but how would they correlate the vehicle to the ping? Isn't that what you first said? I'm not arguing, I'm just not getting you. So they could relate it to that vehicle at that time in Massapequa rather than any other vehicle there? How so? I'm just not getting what you mean is all.
I just mean that once the bodies were discovered and it was obvious that those four cases were connected, they could have correlated the ping from Melissa's cell phone, which pinged a tower in Massapequa (and Manhattan, btw) with the vehicle owner address.

To the fourth, the whole burner phone thing I'm not even going to claim to understand it all. Burner phones are untrackable right? Somewhat. I can't wrap my head around it all but I'm guessing they found numbers right in some of the victim's records that called them? And in something like a tower dump or numbers from a certain area they found repeated numbers?
You know at least as much as I do about all that, lol! So, yeah, it seems that the buyer can't be traced and that the receiver records would show the caller number which might also show location...I really don't know how they traced those calls but I do know info that they traced calls (at the time) to areas of the bus terminal and Penn Station.

Finally, the last commissioner or sheriff or whoever the heck he was refused fed help, etc.
It seems they did have help from the FBI, though...
I think it was a couple of years after the discovery of the bodies that there was a new police chief who showed to be corrupt and he's the one who refused FBI, reason apparently being that he didn't want them around to discover whatever it was he'd been up to.
 
Well that's a good question. As I recall, they had the one hair attributed to him but now that I think about it, I'm not sure those results (he couldn't be excluded) would be sufficient.


I just mean that once the bodies were discovered and it was obvious that those four cases were connected, they could have correlated the ping from Melissa's cell phone, which pinged a tower in Massapequa (and Manhattan, btw) with the vehicle owner address.


You know at least as much as I do about all that, lol! So, yeah, it seems that the buyer can't be traced and that the receiver records would show the caller number which might also show location...I really don't know how they traced those calls but I do know info that they traced calls (at the time) to areas of the bus terminal and Penn Station.


It seems they did have help from the FBI, though...
I think it was a couple of years after the discovery of the bodies that there was a new police chief who showed to be corrupt and he's the one who refused FBI, reason apparently being that he didn't want them around to discover whatever it was he'd been up to.
First--I think the results are more than that, in the extremely high unheard of numbers that it was his hair by far over anyone else's. Maybe that's how it has changed, it is that accurate now.

Second--yeah, I don't know. I still don't really get how you mean they could do that. I mean could they correlate that he lived and worked in both areas? Sure. But nto sure how you think they can correlate it to the vehicle owner address. They can correlate it to Manhattan and Massapequa and have done so. I may be having a slow brain cell day but not following. Are you thinking of GPS or something on the vehicle?

Third--Well the buyer was tracked once they knew of him it seems with cash purchases in cell phone store(s). I do figure prior to that thought that the sister and friend had numbers that showed or records that could show the number. He could have even blocked the call but if they talked to their phone company, about a certain caller, they could have had it traced/flagged, etc. if he called again. Or the cops could have since the calls were reported to LE... Once they had the number, they likely could have done a lot with the number(s). While they may not have had anything to name Rex, they could probably get a warrant, etc. on the number since it was clear the caller was claiming to be the killer and calling the sister, etc. I honestly don't know but that seems likely to me. And once the had the number they could have looked for its activity in various ways maybe, no idea. The caller though was using the victim's phone wasn't he? Those calls are more easily traceable I'm sure. The burner phone(s) they probably got off of contact with Amber or others? I'm a bit overloaded with info so unsure where we started with this but I don't think getting the victims' phone records would have much for obstacles and as to the burner phones, they just needed someone he called or in some kind of area tower dump, etc. found the right number at the right time? I know little about it. Obviously lol.

Fourth, yes, the corrupt chief. I don't think this case was EVER given serious investigation through many years, from the start though. Not like in recent years and the way the internet, etc. has helped bring it to attention again and keep it there enough to know how people felt and weren't going to let it go? This chief now campaigned on a promise to solve this didn't he? Yeah that corrupt one, I don't know what ALL is there but there is SOMETHING there... He couldn't have other LE agencies too close to him... And digging into things like sex workers and this case...
 
First--I think the results are more than that, in the extremely high unheard of numbers that it was his hair by far over anyone else's. Maybe that's how it has changed, it is that accurate now.
this case...
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, that those results include too many people.
As for the wife's hairs, you know, those could be linked to him only after they already knew who he was...

I still don't really get how you mean they could do that. I mean could they correlate that he lived and worked in both areas? Sure. But nto sure how you think they can correlate it to the vehicle owner address. They can correlate it to Manhattan and Massapequa and have done so.
Well I've presumed that the trace on his vehicle revealed his home address...so that if they'd had that info at the time, they'd have had a ping and a vehicle in Massapequa.

The caller though was using the victim's phone wasn't he? Those calls are more easily traceable I'm sure. The burner phone(s) they probably got off of contact with Amber or others? I'm a bit overloaded with info so unsure where we started with this but I don't think getting the victims' phone records would have much for obstacles and as to the burner phones, they just needed someone he called or in some kind of area tower dump, etc. found the right number at the right time? I know little about it. Obviously lol.
Yeah, he used two of the four victim's cell phones; Maureen's, used to call a friend of hers, and Melissa's, used to call her (Melissa's) sister.
Btw, there's info that Maureen's phone also pinged on Fire Island quite some time after her disappearance- at least 6 mos. If true, then I think it's very odd and also very interesting.
 
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, that those results include too many people.
As for the wife's hairs, you know, those could be linked to him only after they already knew who he was...


Well I've presumed that the trace on his vehicle revealed his home address...so that if they'd had that info at the time, they'd have had a ping and a vehicle in Massapequa.


Yeah, he used two of the four victim's cell phones; Maureen's, used to call a friend of hers, and Melissa's, used to call her (Melissa's) sister.
Btw, there's info that Maureen's phone also pinged on Fire Island quite some time after her disappearance- at least 6 mos. If true, then I think it's very odd and also very interesting.
Still a bit lost on that. The results include him and exclude a kazillion. No?

Agree on the wife's hairs. Like anything, even his own DNA, they have to have something or someone to compare it to. Hence, his pizza crust.

That is interesting about Maureen's phone, if I heard that, I certainly didn't recall. Clearly he kept the phones and of course used them to call and find family or friend's numbers. I believe in the last presser a reporter asked if they did not find a bunch of burned cell phones... Can't entirely recall but I think said a drone or something picked up something that looked to be such...? I so don't have time to go back and watch and the LE guy didn't confirm it and it was just a question but interesting...On the other hand why would he burn them recently OR were they buried and burned awhile ago? If he burned them recently was he getting worried and maybe something tipped him off he was being watched or they were getting onto him or he got a hint of the investigation or grand jury...? IF it wasn't just a question formed with no real reason to believe they found any such thing but to probe LE...
 
Still a bit lost on that. The results include him and exclude a kazillion. No?
Sorry, I see that I'd misread your post.
No, I think the results would include too many people, that they aren't as discriminate as they'd need to be to say it's positively it's his.

Agree on the wife's hairs. Like anything, even his own DNA, they have to have something or someone to compare it to. Hence, his pizza crust.
Yeah, once they traced the vehicle, they had that.
I think what could be confusing to us both is that I've been looking at what they had at the time and you're looking at what they have now.
It's what I tend to do when there's an arrest in a cold case; I go back and try to see how or why the case went cold.
That is interesting about Maureen's phone, if I heard that, I certainly didn't recall.
Yeah, I'd forgot about it but I only recall one reference to that- the book, Lost Girls, which I read years ago. I'd borrowed it from my public library- I might have even requested that they buy it, I don't remember, but they still have it and I recently put a hold on it, mainly because I'm curious as to what I thought of it, lol! Seriously, I don't remember but it seems I was disappointed with it for some reason.
 
Sorry, I see that I'd misread your post.
No, I think the results would include too many people, that they aren't as discriminate as they'd need to be to say it's positively it's his.


Yeah, once they traced the vehicle, they had that.
I think what could be confusing to us both is that I've been looking at what they had at the time and you're looking at what they have now.
It's what I tend to do when there's an arrest in a cold case; I go back and try to see how or why the case went cold.

Yeah, I'd forgot about it but I only recall one reference to that- the book, Lost Girls, which I read years ago. I'd borrowed it from my public library- I might have even requested that they buy it, I don't remember, but they still have it and I recently put a hold on it, mainly because I'm curious as to what I thought of it, lol! Seriously, I don't remember but it seems I was disappointed with it for some reason.
Definitely would make a difference if you are talking back when vs now. I was under the impression the hair was a huge finding in chances it was his and not anyone else's.. I may be thinking of the DNA and pizza but I don't believe so, both are significant. I t is more or less said the hairs belong to him and to his wife and I think the findings and results aren't "iffy" but pretty conclusive. I don't think I have that wrong but will take correction if I do.

I never read the book so perhaps I never saw the thing about Maureen. But I watch a lot of stuff and chats so maybe someone commented on it, having read the book as it does sound familiar.

I'm like you in that I can remember my conclusions or opinion but not always what led me to it. I just know that I use real reasons and logic to form my opinion on cases so if I feel someone is guilty, I remember that but don't always recall what led me to that conclusion. Sounds kind of like you with the book. You know you were disappointed for some reason but can't recall exactly why lol.

I get worried its my memory lol but then I/we pack so many cases in with so many facts, new ones come along, we don't revisit old ones for awhile and not all comes back immediately is m excuse. Lol.
 
Two sisters, one brother. Contrary to what's been reported his mother is dead in 2016. He was bullied in school and did not fit in. He did not have it good at home. Did not get along well with his dad. First divorce was due to his infidelities and liking for prostitutes. Lots more. Grizzly is live. Can't pay total attention, doing other things but lot of info.

To date, no one still seems to know how his dad died.
 
New info has come out on Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack in that they were bound in a way a hunter would bind them...

The toddler was found near Valerie Mack's body but toddler's mother found in Lakeview NY, a different area? Speak up EMU how far away is this?

Knees brought to chest and leg area bound like into a ball.
 
Someone on her show said they were in the Air Force and at that time they put Aerospace in front of all job titles...

I gather this is a comment towards whether his dad was an aerospace engineer or not... Who built satellites. When were the first satellites? If I get a moment of time I may have to look that up...
 
New info has come out on Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack in that they were bound in a way a hunter would bind them...

The toddler was found near Valerie Mack's body but toddler's mother found in Lakeview NY, a different area? Speak up EMU how far away is this?

Knees brought to chest and leg area bound like into a ball.

Seeing as how I'm about 600 miles from NYC, I don't know.
 
Someone on her show said they were in the Air Force and at that time they put Aerospace in front of all job titles...

I gather this is a comment towards whether his dad was an aerospace engineer or not... Who built satellites. When were the first satellites? If I get a moment of time I may have to look that up...

The first satellite was Sputnik in the 1950s.

 

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