Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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Listen to the tip the lawyer got from a wife who thinks it might be her ex-husband. Does it sound like crybaby? I think so!
Yeah that did resonate and I thought of his first ex wife but wondered how she would know when he was out of town when married to the now/current wife... It did perk some interest in me but it seemed like it was unlikely she'd know those things but who knows... Maybe. Unless he still had a thing for her and called her up to see her or some such when his wife was out of town...

I dismissed it as unlikely by the end, I forget why but those reasons for one I just said here and something else I can't recall, time frame maybe or something...

It could be though. I know a week ago or some such in a video someone made a point of saying it isn't even known if he had kids with the first wife and I've heard nothing much there one way or another. He well could have, would we know? There's tons of people in this world that abandon their kids after a marriage. Or he could have and see them and have relationships with them and would we know?

It's VERY odd the fact to this day it is not known how the father died and a lot else has not been found out by those that dig for details, etc.
 
It HAS been said or so I've heard that she divorced him over his many infidelities or some such wording. I wonder if maybe when current wife was going through a lot of his oddities, lies as to where he was and what he was doing, etc. if she didn't ever contact ex wife and start comparing notes... Let me tell you it is NOT uncommon. Just with a cheater. I sure thought of doing so many a time... MAYBE over time both wives had a clue. He is BEYOND a cheater and it had to all be odder than just cheating what they picked up on over time or slips from him... That COULD be how ex wife knows when he was out of town. Current wife maybe talked with her and said is this what you went through, Rex was up to something when I was gone again or he encouraged me to go out of town without him...

I am going to have to listen again. Or DID it say HE was missing/out of town/away from home at those times?
 
I wonder how deeply they are investigating former police chief James Burke. His involvement with escorts and seemingly keeping the police force from looking into the LISK case seems odd.
I understand that he hindered the FBI investigation into the assault case against himself but I'm not aware that he kept them or the police force from looking into the LISK case.
 
I understand that he hindered the FBI investigation into the assault case against himself but I'm not aware that he kept them or the police force from looking into the LISK case.
I'm sorry that my memory is foggy with so many cases and this back when but I'm pretty sure he did. He was constantly throwing it off as nothing, nothing connected, no big deal, nor searches, Shannon's family couldn't get any efforts, etc. And another guy got in trouble too, can't recall off the top of my head, someone in power or with him. They wouldn't release the 911 call EVEN when after year sit was ordered by the court or feds, still resisted. There's a LOT and not one bit of me thinks he did not stop or obstruct that investigation. And when you work under a chief what do you think was going on as to investigation by LE... NOTHING. That's their jobs.

He explained away everything the investigation they did do... Nothing odd, nothing about the guys she was with, her driver, the doctor, etc. All clear. She was just a messed up, on drugs that night prostitute.

I can't recall it all right now but not ONE PART of me has any doubt that he messed up any investigation. And likely others as well who helped. Or WHAT investigation?

I don't have time but take a look. AT what is in a lot of articles and videos through the years until now? It isn't just about HIS case which came far later. Personally I think such was stolen from his vehicle for this very reason. Retired NYPD COPS have things to say about him and the handling.
 
NY refused ORDERS to release the 911 call. Shannon's poor family was tried to be shut down in every way possible and through YEARS... And isn't it interesting the minute she was looked for for REAL they started finding all these other bodies...
 
Yeah. I don't think that's a good idea. I'm sure they said. Oh O.K. if there's a way to raise suspicion. That's a good way.
Imo he didn't want ANYONE looking into it. It's where all the talk comes from of how they didn't do anything or care as she was an escort/prostittute and NOTHING/BUT NOTHING could make him/them do so. He would just deflect it and refuse. Just like help from the feds. It was AWFUL and try to imagine trying to put pressure on as a family or get help when the internet was not what it is now but a long shot. They persevered though. Getting an independent look at the autopsy, over and over asking for the 911 call, etc. And EVEN when other bodies were found it CONTINUED.
 
I am so far not up on all posts so this may have been posted already and if so, sorry. But in this one too it says the remains of the toddler were found near Valerie Mack.In the first minutes.



I don't know what it means but I don't think it should be ignored by us. Same killer is the most likely reason. It could be happenstance but why not by the mother. To confuse... Are the hairs found to confuse.

I have to do a hair post but need to get my head there first... Crybaby's wife's hairs, as far as I can see it, could only be found where they were in only a few scenarios I can think of...
 
For starters, I haven't worn belts in years. I used to, cute ones, etc. But I wear one for work now. Every time I come home I simply hang it over a chair for the next day. I live in a one bedroom apartment, have two cats and I have long hair. I can't and don't vacuum every day, etc. Never, not once, has there been hair in the buckle of the belt. It is everywhere else it sure shows up. It's metal. It is just not a naturally adhering or attracting surface. That may sound dumb but I know dealing with hair in a residence. And that's just the buckle. And the one hair. I have more.

But on that hair the belt was around the legs or was it ankles. of the victim. How does the wife's hair get there? I guess if she was doing the belt around the legs and bending over to do so, I can see that. I'm assuming the rest of the victim was bound already and legs last... IF alive at that point which we don't know.

EVERY scenario I think of, this is the most likely.

Now Crybaby could have planted them all is another possible scenario. But think of that. Taking a single few hairs one for this murder, a couple for another and putting just one or two on this or that... I don't know. Seems a bit more unlikely but possible.

I GUESS the hair could have been picked up when he was binding them and using the camo burlap... Let's just say they were laying on the couch or the marital bed when he wrapped them, belted them. I GUESS the hair could have been picked up in the buckle, inside the fold of burlap, etc. Oh and on the tape and with the same victim one near her head as the tape was too. I am finding that a bit difficult to believe and then on transport they stay and on tossing them.... I'm lost on that, not sure. And even then JUST these few.

From what we can tell cops don't seem to think she was involved which may be due to the fact she was supposedly out of town. BUT does that mean she was out of town when they died or were disposed of? NO. Those are times they were last seen or heard from or known to be alive. Imperfect at best. They TOOK a freezer. He had a ROOM in the basement. The family LIVED with him.

I'm not accusing and don't have any certainty but I AM saying I have not went all sympathy here for the wife or family. We simply don't know enough by a long shot. We don't know how his dad died. We know little about THIS family, the dynamics, the daily life, anything.

But back to the hairs. Explain that all to me. I for days on end and still figured most likely they were transfer hairs but now I just don't know with hearing more detail and time to think on it... There aren't a ton and they are in some very odd places.
 
I am so far not up on all posts so this may have been posted already and if so, sorry. But in this one too it says the remains of the toddler were found near Valerie Mack.In the first minutes.



I don't know what it means but I don't think it should be ignored by us. Same killer is the most likely reason. It could be happenstance but why not by the mother. To confuse... Are the hairs found to confuse.

I have to do a hair post but need to get my head there first... Crybaby's wife's hairs, as far as I can see it, could only be found where they were in only a few scenarios I can think of...

Further into this one now and it is interesting. They have a map of his house to the storage unit and to the sites of bodies, etc. And discussing how would you do this and not be noticed, need a flashlight, etc. OR the boat theory... Showing and talking of the weeds and marsh, etc.

He asked that "date" he had how she thought the killer go the bodies there and seemed really intent on that...

And that's making me think outside the box now a bit... HOW do we know they were dumped at night? Why is that assumed? Why do we think a vehicle was used? Why any assumption? Times are NOT KNOWN in this case. Just last seen dates or times and/or his contacts with some of them.
 
Imo he didn't want ANYONE looking into it. It's where all the talk comes from of how they didn't do anything or care as she was an escort/prostittute and NOTHING/BUT NOTHING could make him/them do so. He would just deflect it and refuse. Just like help from the feds. It was AWFUL and try to imagine trying to put pressure on as a family or get help when the internet was not what it is now but a long shot. They persevered though. Getting an independent look at the autopsy, over and over asking for the 911 call, etc. And EVEN when other bodies were found it CONTINUED.
I completely agree that the murders of called "Hookers" "Prostitutes". The worst "Whores". Sorry. Not my vernacular. Has had a very long history of being ignored. I have stated in a documentary I saw about "Richard Cottingham" "The Torso Kiler", The Times Square Killer". He killed sex workers in the 70's. When "Times Square" Was nothing but porn theaters, Porn shops, Peeping shows, Shutter peep shows allowing sex acts, All nude stripping, Even Live sex. I really had no idea all of that went on. That it was legal or allowed. So the best place for sex workers to get customers was "Times Square". The crime rate, Including murder was astronomical. His first two documented victims, At that time, 2 victims. One is still unidentified. Ge killed in motel rooms. But that is when he changed. Very rare. He lived in New Jersey. It is now strongly believed he had victims in New Jersey in the 60's. And they were teens. Not sex workers. Sorry. A Little background. Anyway. LOL. Sex workers, When they were found dead, Usually murdered. The Police referred to them "NHI". "No human involved". So that shows they weren't even treated as a human being. They have been victims of serial killers for different reasons. It is considered a profession. And based on a study of dangerous jobs. It is number one. Gary Ridgeway. Started killing because he got an STD from a sex worker. Arthur Shawcross. Let out early from killing 2 children. Moved and started killing sex workers. Had an excuse for every one. Those are the big ones I can think of right now. They are the ones who sought out sex workers! But it's NEVER their fault. And I've heard "They were hookers. No one would care. They were easy". "She tried to steal my wallet", "After sex she told me she had AIDS". OH COME ON!!! That wasn't any of these 3. But the STD excuse I've heard more than once. Ridgeway was charged with 49. He said "70 sounds about right". After they already took the death penalty off the table because he was going to lead them to undiscovered victims. He enrages me just looking at him. Shawcross, Dead 2008. Cottingham alive. Grey hair, long Grey, Thick Santa beard. I am very glad that society isn't taking LE not doing anything about sex workers being murdered. Shannon, I really hope they aren't doing much because their thinking is they don't have anyone to be accountable to since Mari was murdered. IDC If they couldn't find ANY FAMILY OR FRIENDS! THEY ARE ALL SOMEONE!!!!!
 
I was looking for something to listen to while I cruised the net. I entered the word "documentary" into YouTube I couldn't listen to the whole thing, because I decided to go to bed. I did go to the end though to see what year it was made. That's when I heard the startling part at 1:24:00.
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Further into this one now and it is interesting. They have a map of his house to the storage unit and to the sites of bodies, etc. And discussing how would you do this and not be noticed, need a flashlight, etc. OR the boat theory... Showing and talking of the weeds and marsh, etc.

He asked that "date" he had how she thought the killer go the bodies there and seemed really intent on that...

And that's making me think outside the box now a bit... HOW do we know they were dumped at night? Why is that assumed? Why do we think a vehicle was used? Why any assumption? Times are NOT KNOWN in this case. Just last seen dates or times and/or his contacts with some of them.
I read a flat bottom boat would have to have been used based on the swampy conditions. I can't see a fan boat. THEY'RE A LITTLE LOUD!!! WINDY!!!
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