Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.

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Who is the Long Island Serial Killer?

The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.
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GrandmaBear said:
I think it most likely he killed them at home and I'm not convinced it was right away either. I guess with all the storage units and homes he has he could have a hut or shack somewhere, who the heck knows. He lived in this area and worked on the beach/es after high school right...?

But to explain the wife's hairs it has to be almost at home. Could be the vehicle but that would be pretty risky. The safest/most private place would be home... UNLESS he has somewhere else we don't know about. Or access to somewhere else even if not his.
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Yep. How do explain her hair. Very good point. Killed in his home, She assisted. Much less likely from the timelines and her being there. IDK how much hair they retrieved. But it sounds too much for simple transfer from him.
 
Mel70 said:
In that area. He's a huge guy. Very strong. They suspected he killed them in his house. So he could of simply used a wheelbarrow. Throw them in there wrapped like they were and throw in a shovel too.
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You mean take a wheelbarrow from home and no truck? Or have that in the truck and then go from there?
 
GrandmaBear said:
I'm going off the court tv thing I linked. Assuming someone drove down Ocean Parkway, he'd have to park along the side of the road with a vehicle and then how would he not be noticed with traffic, etc. doing whatever from there and going into the reeds/marsh.
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That's why killing them in his house makes alot of sense. IIRC She was in another state. Had plenty of time and privacy to commit murder.
 
Mel70 said:
Yep. How do explain her hair. Very good point. Killed in his home, She assisted. Much less likely from the timelines and her being there. IDK how much hair they retrieved. But it sounds too much for simple transfer from him.
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I think the hairs are going to be a sticking point. In a few ways. New testing. It was her, not him (defense). BUT the burner phones and records and a whole lot of other puts it on him, being seen at Amber's, etc.

Yeah she was gone supposedly. During a couple. It's too bad these weren't victims reported and looked for hard from day one to know a time of death, etc.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Yeah but I bet in hindsight, many family members can see things. Maybe not that would have said they were serial killers but I believe there was almost always thoughts of what is he doing, what is he hiding in that locked shed, why is he so private, where was he... Is he cheating? I know he's cheating...

Seemingly normal lives is the key phrase you say. At minimum none of those things are a normal healthy relationship. And that's just cheating, hiding things, lying and one can't account for where they are or they do and are caught in it on occasion.

In a bit of turn of subject on that, we don't know much yet, but I don't think this family was likely even seemingly normal.. That's just my initial impression and it may not be fair as we do NOT know much but the comic book thing, the gun thing, I think it was Dungeons and Dragons or some such with the daughter. Forget the daughter even, these are two OLDER people and they aren't as far as we know but COULD BE grandparents. A hobby is one thing and at a younger age for sure but an addiction or obsession with it or a lifestyle is another and that's the hints I get. Maybe I'm wrong, again not much is known. A cluttered uncared for home but a professional career wearing suits... Maybe I'm wrong, I mean I'd have never suspected their kitchen. And don't get me wrong, the home is n't falling down and I know myself that life circumstances can stop one from keeping one up the way they'd like, no money for repairs, improvements, etc. BUT other properties were purchased and money spent on offices and prostitutes, etc. so there was money... There WERE things wrong in this family.

Apparently as far as we know the daughter never left home. She was working for dad at the end here. She never drove until recently getting a license. I had a sister who didn't until years after high school so I get it and all these things can be normal BUT not put all together.

Can ANYONE think of a case at all of murder where the wife's hairs were found? Not the daughter's. Much less a serial killer. ANY case. And more of them than of the suspect's? In multiple murders/victims. I think they found one in Vallow said to be Lori's didn't they? On the tape or something? ONE. We've seen cases with animal hairs. But they also aren't found on a belt buckle.

I'm wandering so I'll stop. Little time and catching up and all sorts of thoughts.
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I can't think of case right now where a wife's hair was found off-hand. I'll look it up. It's had to have happened I would think.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I think the hairs are going to be a sticking point. In a few ways. New testing. It was her, not him (defense). BUT the burner phones and records and a whole lot of other puts it on him, being seen at Amber's, etc.

Yeah she was gone supposedly. During a couple. It's too bad these weren't victims reported and looked for hard from day one to know a time of death, etc.
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Neglected cases, The longer the crime is unsolved. The less likelihood of it being solved. But luckily now with advancements in DNA more victims and killers are being identified. Even cases decades cold.
 
Mel70 said:
That's why killing them in his house makes alot of sense. IIRC She was in another state. Had plenty of time and privacy to commit murder.
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I lean hard towards the home too. But then you dispose of them NEAR your home. Kind of dumb but I guess his knowing the isolation of the marshy area, etc. and that he likely KNEW they wouldn't look hard for sex workers... But still, pretty risky...
 
Mel70 said:
From his home. There had to have been one around that hoarding nightmare.
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But I can't quite picture that. Seeing s man with a wheelbarrow at night along the road would be really odd. I guess if during the day he could put a body or part in it and thing son top as if he was doing a job. I guess he also could have even if at night watched for car lights and made sure the parkway had a traffic break when he did so...
 
Mel70 said:
I can't think of case right now where a wife's hair was found off-hand. I'll look it up. It's had to have happened I would think.
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Maybe we never heard of such just because they couldn't do a lot with hairs over many years other than say it was blonde, etc. Or dyed. But I think it is pretty unusual. I think it is going to be a thing one way or the other. When/if this ever goes to trial which will likely be, if we are honest, a decade unless a speeding trial thing is put in.
 
Mel70 said:
Neglected cases, The longer the crime is unsolved. The less likelihood of it being solved. But luckily now with advancements in DNA more victims and killers are being identified. Even cases decades cold.
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IF LE knew to keep everything they could and that advancements would come. And IF they cared to or to collect it. And IF not lost over the years.
 
Well there is a show on "ID" "Buried in the Backyard". There's been enough for a show. "Aundria Bowman". Killed by her stepfather and buried. Covered with a concrete patio. 1989. It went unsolved until a couple years ago. She was reported missing l. "Dorthea Puente". 1980's. Killed her tenants for their checks. Buried under rose bushes and a patio. It is risky. But people do it. I just looked ot up. There are 60 episodes of "Buried in the Backyard". 2018-Present.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Maybe we never heard of such just because they couldn't do a lot with hairs over many years other than say it was blonde, etc. Or dyed. But I think it is pretty unusual. I think it is going to be a thing one way or the other. When/if this ever goes to trial which will likely be, if we are honest, a decade unless a speeding trial thing is put in.
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Hair testing advanced awhile ago. If the root is attached. You can get DNA. I believe back to the late 90's. Hair comparison is where you can only say it shares similar characteristics. One case that was successfully prosecuted with Hair, But no DNA, Was the guy had a genetic flaw of his hair and hair shaft. It was very rare and distinctive.
 
Mel70 said:
Hair testing advanced awhile ago. If the root is attached. You can get DNA. I believe back to the late 90's. Hair comparison is where you can only say it shares similar characteristics. One case that was successfully prosecuted with Hair, But no DNA, Was the guy had a genetic flaw of his hair and hair shaft. It was very rare and distinctive.
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Yeah but in this case it is being said or surmised that now they can get DNA without the root hence the labs (two) in this case. That's the hair one I shared above. It advancede enough that there is a way but not sure how many are aware of it or doing it yet...
 
I am reeling but in trying to not worry about things here, I'm trying to take my mind of such to no avail but I came across a mention that there is going to be a PC on this caes again tomorrow... Not sure how my day will go but all should be aware and/or can someone link it if they find it or share the info if they watch it My day tomorrow is likely not going to go smoothy yet it needs to but I'm not counting on it. A lot to do that news today threw a major wrench into.
 
SPECULATION is it may be about Barnes, 4th victim. Total speculation as far as I know.

Listen to this woman at 11:15 seconds in until 11:40 if you listen to nothing else in this but there are other good points, a lot of them, even prior to this part about Gilbert and after.

 
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