Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.

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Who is the Long Island Serial Killer?

The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.
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So if he was responsible which seems likely on its face, he separated the body parts with this one...

Pretty bad with not years into a new marriage and wife pregnant, one would think Valentine's Day would be a special one, first child and all for him, etc., newer wife.

Was wife out of town on V Day that year? Doesn't hint at a great marriage then from the start. Usually in a decent one in the early years you'd make an effort on occasions like V day. I"ve not figured at any point yet though it was a decent one. Haven't had a single reason to.

They said in PC release there's be a question and answer period and they nixed that... Bunch of unhappy reporters I'd guess.

So did they say or did I not pick up on it how they identified her? Was it genealogy or what?
 
GrandmaBear said:
Yeah but in this case it is being said or surmised that now they can get DNA without the root hence the labs (two) in this case. That's the hair one I shared above. It advancede enough that there is a way but not sure how many are aware of it or doing it yet...
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Probably only private labs are doing it.
Yeah, I'd previously only known of mtDNA analysis performed on a hair without the root, which is certainly valuable info to an investigation since results either include or exclude a specific individual but I hadn't heard that there is now advanced testing on such a hair. Needless to say, that's fantastic!
 
Regina said:
Probably only private labs are doing it.
Yeah, I'd previously only known of mtDNA analysis performed on a hair without the root, which is certainly valuable info to an investigation since results either include or exclude a specific individual but I hadn't heard that there is now advanced testing on such a hair. Needless to say, that's fantastic!
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If I understand it, it narrowed it to some type of small group and all put together with the other evidence on him, etc. it's hers. Lot of mumbo jumbo to me but something about haplo or some such. Very small group versus the population. It IS fantastic.
 
Regina said:
Probably not but what do you bet that that house is full of her hair?
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Yeah probably but wouldn't his and the kids be as well? None of theirs, one of his and a "lot" of hers...

If it was so uncleanly that tons of hers were around, then tons of all of theirs would be around.

I guess there is the chance also that he planted them but I just can't quite see it. I'd have to see him with a pair of tweezers with one hair picked up in them, etc., etc. And then placing them on a victim, on the tape, on the belt buckle.

I get what you are saying but I find it odd... If it was with ONE victim maybe... One item. One time.
 
GrandmaBear said:
If I understand it, it narrowed it to some type of small group and all put together with the other evidence on him, etc. it's hers. Lot of mumbo jumbo to me but something about haplo or some such. Very small group versus the population. It IS fantastic.
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Yeah, it's mumbo jumbo to me, too, lol! But what does makes sense to me is that the prior testing didn't offer the results necessary for a genealogy database search.
 
GrandmaBear said:
So if he was responsible which seems likely on its face, he separated the body parts with this one...

Pretty bad with not years into a new marriage and wife pregnant, one would think Valentine's Day would be a special one, first child and all for him, etc., newer wife.

Was wife out of town on V Day that year? Doesn't hint at a great marriage then from the start. Usually in a decent one in the early years you'd make an effort on occasions like V day. I"ve not figured at any point yet though it was a decent one. Haven't had a single reason to.

They said in PC release there's be a question and answer period and they nixed that... Bunch of unhappy reporters I'd guess.

So did they say or did I not pick up on it how they identified her? Was it genealogy or what?
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He probably had to go to "work". You know, "important " meeting that came up.
 
Guess Who said:
He probably had to go to "work". You know, "important " meeting that came up.
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Yeah or had to do something after work, etc. BUT if she was home where did he go and where did he, I hate saying it, but separate or keep parts of the body... I'm telling ya (not you, just all in general), I'm having trouble with seeing how that could be. Was she gone again? If not, then I've got a lot of questions.

I searched and see that V Day 1996 was a Wednesday so she wasn't on any "weekend" trip and he should have been in the midst of a work week. Assuming he worked every day. Who the heck knows... BUT victim was from Manhattan (his work) and found on Long Island (his home territory). So likely picked her up on V Day with a call, a date, a stop at a bar, who knows... Then where? Home I'd think. Where was the wife on one of their first V days? Heck we don't know anything. Maybe she was out with a bf. I don't mean that of course but I'm just saying this marriage could have been nothing but a sham/cover. Get her pregnant, have one kid and they do their separate sh*t.

I can't know of course or even entirely why, but I'm just instinctually feeling this was not an even halfway normal marriage. Maybe one of convenience and maybe one of two warped minds.

I felt the Chief or sheriff (which is it?) or maybe it was prosecutor was pretty cold to a question about her and what happened to her house/damage and basically said in response she could take any avenue or recourse she had if any, and said dismissively she can pursue what avenues if any are available to her (I am paraphrasing), like who cares. It was a few days back. Very cool about it, her public complaints and dismissive.

Of course this is all assuming he is responsible for this other murder.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Someone who used to work with Rex who went to their home, interior designer, to renovate their kitchen in 2005... They renovated anything, at any time, really? But anyhow, she said there was a locked room in the basement and he refused to let her in. Why would she know about the basement if there to renovate kitchen? When she asked about it he was sooo weird about it and said full of guns or some such. I guess maybe he gave her a home tour since he knew her. Seems odd, was the home cluttered then and she was to renovate? What was the rest of the home like? Where's the other info? Did they renovate the ktichen? Did she have room to work?

I can't help but wonder if it was all so he could have a walk in cooler added. Sarcasm/joke...

I guess it just doesn't fit with me. I'd have to know more but I don't picture this family as anything normal inside the walls of the home.
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My contractor walked around my house and into my garage two nights ago as we were talking about future projects, so maybe that's what they were doing. They just didn't follow through with any plans.
 
Kimster said:
My contractor walked around my house and into my garage two nights ago as we were talking about future projects, so maybe that's what they were doing. They just didn't follow through with any plans.
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Yeah or simply because they knew each other and first time to his home was being shown around or asked to be. Or even maybe some part of the ktichen plans were dependent on where wiring or something else came up from the basement, etc. Moving laundry or plumbing even.
 
So Fire Island Jane Doe, now known was Karen, was first found in 1996 or her legs and feet were on the bay side shore of Fire Island . Fast forward 15 years later and her skull was found on Tobay Beach in 2011. The skull and other remains were linked by DNA in July of 2011. Believed to be working as an escort but no missing reports at the time. August of last year a DNA profile was obtained and in September a match using genealogy they identified her as Karen Vergata. In October they got a buccal swab from a relative of hers confirming they were the remains of Karen Vergata.

And more.

 
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Prosecutors also put in a request to the court for a DNA swab of Crybaby. Wife's attorney said she has not been asked for one but we know they already have hair samples of hers.

I'll honestly admit I did not know they couldn't get and put DNA into a database until conviction. At least in NY. Not sure about elsewhere but even then with CODIS, I think federal law rules it or some such. Talked about it awhile back in this.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
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I have a hard time believing everything was just normal and a-okay. As I've said before with a cheater and then one who sees prostitutes, there are definitely things you pick up on constantly even if you can't quite catch them, put your finger on what exactly they are doing each time and so forth. You even wonder with a cheater and one who goes missing on occasion or can't quite explain where they were, why there is a receipt from an entirely different town than where they were said to be, etc., etc., you wonder if they are cheating? Have a mistress? Are a serial killer? BECAUSE they are hiding so many things and not being honest. There is NO way in 20+ years she didn't pick up on at least lies and cheating. I don't mean she could prove it but she definitely suspected at least that much and felt it and sensed it.

She'd have to be the most gullible, uninterested, not paying attention at all wife to have not picked up on anything. I don't even mean about the murders. I mean about him having a secret life at all, as in cheating.

Did she know about both storage units? I wonder. She had to know about the room in the basement. Did he build this or was it present as part of the home I wonder.

Was she involved in their finances at all or bills at all?

As we know now the one murder was likely on Valentine's early in their marriage when she was pregnant with their one and only child. I guess he could have taken her out for a big dinner and then home tired and went out but I doubt it since Karen was from Manhattan and then again where did he take Karen. Or was she pregnant and out of town on Valentine's... ASSUMING of course Karen's murderer is Crybaby.

I'm just not convinced of anything I guess. I certainly don't think she should be accused without any evidence but I do think there is a lot here to be unsure of yet.

She's walking a dog here so there was likely one animal at least in these recent years. Was there back when? Were there animal hairs found in addition to hers and his ...
 
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So this showed his train ride to work and the platform he goes to to get on. An hour commute even by train...

I had been wondering if he drove in or not...

Soooo with Amber we know he had his vehicle....

We know they took the vehicle in.

When he was going to murder, did he then drive? Or did he get escorts to come out to the house... I don't think he likely rode home on the train with them...

Twice in this video they mention living around him are teachers and law enforcement. LAW ENFORCEMENT. No time to go there right now but that fits in with other talk through the decades... And even if not that, he disposed of bodies near where LE lived AND took the victims home most likely.... A lot of food for thought there. Especially once bodies were found right in their neck of the woods and even more so when things were dialed down to Massapequa and Manhattan.
 
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