Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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I do believe that Shannon went running because she was having a mental episode. And then I've wondered if the serial killer saw her and took advantage of an opportunity? I've often wondered why LE quickly dismissed her case from being related to the other murders.
 
He got 46 months originally IIRC but maybe he got out early. If he has offended again he should be back inside.
He was out and was just arrested a few weeks back, covered in this thread, for propositioning or some such thing and more on a crack down at a park I believe where neighboring residents were complaining about things going on there.
 
I do believe that Shannon went running because she was having a mental episode. And then I've wondered if the serial killer saw her and took advantage of an opportunity? I've often wondered why LE quickly dismissed her case from being related to the other murders.
Have you listened to Grizzly or any others as to the female banker/night taxi driver and her accounts of what sounds like Shannon? I woudnl't call those a mental episode and it sure the heck sounds like CBaby and on top of that she went on about them always trying to get her to Long Island. She had enough smarts to lock herself in the hotel room bathroom and call for a cab. Grizzly has a LOT on all this recent stuff. I haven't even seen it all but watched he last bit of the live. This banker was NOT a sex worker and has NO skin in the game. And others. And more.
 
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Came across this detailed article from August about Burke, including input from lawyer Ray.



This is not surprising to me in the slightest. The real snuff film part is a tiny bit surprising, but I've thought that Burke was definitely involved in this in some way.
 
LE seem to be properly investigating it now anyway. Any news from Asa's attorney?
Asa's atty has been silent since his big put on PC to my knowledge. One of the retired nypd cop YT channels is putting Ray and all his down as a bunch of b.s. Police Off the Cuff, one of the only ones of retired LE I still LIKED... Putting Ray down, always following the company line on Gilbert, etc.
 
Came across this detailed article from August about Burke, including input from lawyer Ray.


And there you have it. And I have mentioned the snuff film thing in even the last month or so... AS to Burke and the sh*t in his car, never been proven OR disproven as to what was on it etc. but we all KNOW there were some sex toys also and the man was just arrested again...

THIS is NYC! Anyone paid attention to the sh*t the last many years and the politics??
 
This is not surprising to me in the slightest. The real snuff film part is a tiny bit surprising, but I've thought that Burke was definitely involved in this in some way.
I mentioned the group thing, snuff thing, etc. on here long before now and and said id I had this from back when and talk etc.

I heard many many years ago about parties on LI including LE, doctors, others of note, and more with sex workers hired for a night. I heard of snuff and more and it all was talked of in relation to Gilbert and if memory serves long before any bodies were found.

Burke single handedly did so much damage and caused so much hurt to her family and this investigation it isn't even funny, not that others did not comply and do so as well.

But you know all of that as we have discussed it before here.

I mentioned the snuff thing before and think it was Mel who kind of shut it down. I know it isn't real life common but again had heard it rumored in relation to all of this.
 
I am posting this second article about the PC the other day in case this has more details.

Note - Heuermann paying Gilbert with cut up paper in an envelope, instead of the $1000 she was promised.



MILLER PLACE, N.Y. (PIX11) — In a jaw-dropping claim that took the Suffolk County district attorney by surprise, lawyer John Ray appeared with Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison at a Wednesday press conference and said he had four witnesses that tied Rex Heuermann to two other victims in the Gilgo Beach investigation.
“He was a serial user of sex workers,” John Ray said of Heuermann. “They would sometimes come to his house, sometimes two at a time.”
Ray said the first witness made a claim that Heuermann belonged to a “swingers club,” Le Trapeze, which was based in Midtown Manhattan, not far from where Heuermann worked as an architect. The witness said Heuermann had posted on a wall at Le Trapeze 27 years ago, asking for a sexual encounter at his Massapequa Park home.
The woman said her boyfriend in 1996 was an NYPD detective, referred to in a sworn affidavit as R.W.
Gilgo Beach murders: Inside the investigation that led to Rex Heuermann’s arrest
“In February 1996, R.W. picked up a woman I believe to be Karen Vergata in New York City, on the way to the Heuermann house,” the alleged witness said. “She was hungry and homeless.”
Vergata was identified this year as Jane Doe #7, whose legs had washed up on Fire Island in April 1996. Her skull was discovered in 2011 in Tobay Beach, during the Gilgo investigation.
The witness said she, her date and the woman called “Karen” entered the Heuermann home and she met Heuermann’s wife.
“Karen went downstairs,” the witness wrote. “I stayed upstairs. My partner, who I believe was bisexual, kept disappearing. I believed he was elsewhere in the house, having sex with Rex. I believe I had sex with Rex as well. I never went downstairs.”
The witness said when she and the off-duty detective left Heuermann’s house, “The woman I believe to be Karen suddenly ran outside, naked, and ran about by the garage. RW had gone to the back of the house to look for his belt, but he was then back in the car. RW told me not to worry about her, that she was okay, they were only playing a game. We left without her. I felt uneasy that we left without the woman.”
Possible Gilgo Beach tie to woman found dead on Long Island parkway being investigated, family says
When PIX11 News asked Commissioner Harrison if this allegation made Heuermann a prime suspect in the dismemberment murder of Vergata, he responded, “We have the information. We’re working on it.”
The police commissioner said he actually sat down and listened to the affidavit of a second Ray witness, a female taxi driver who believes she encountered Heuermann twice — and Oak Beach victim Shannan Gilbert once — in the fall of 2009.
In one instance, the cab driver said she was dispatched to pick up a woman at the Sayville Motor Lodge on Sunrise Highway, a notorious location for prostitution which was recently shut down by the federal government.
“I saw a dark, apparently greenish-grey SUV on a side street close to the motel,” the second witness said in a sworn affidavit.
The witness said “a very large man came out. He tried to block his face with his arms. Then a girl ran out. She was petite. She was crying and shaking.”
Cops investigating possible link between Gilgo Beach suspect and 4 dead Atlantic City sex workers
The taxi driver said the scared woman got into her car and said she was glad to get away, claiming the man filled up her envelope with cut-up paper instead of the $1,000 she was promised.
“I saw her on TV when she was identified as Shannan Gilbert,” the second witness said. “I am certain that the girl was Shannan Gilbert.”
The taxi driver said she later encountered Heuermann a second time near Exit 59 on the Long Island Expressway when she responded to a call.
“When I arrived at the bar, I observed an extraordinarily large man wearing an army-like fatigue jacket,” the second witness said.
The driver said the passenger wanted to go for “a long drive into the woods” with a woman.
The driver said the man got agitated when she refused and said “he wanted to kill me if I would just give him a reason to do so.”
The cabbie said she then heard the click of a gun, before her dispatcher called the cops.
Ray said a third witness currently living in Oklahoma City contacted him and said she performed sexual services for Heuermann at a Queens park and he had threatened to kill her at one point. This woman did not sign a sworn statement.
A fourth witness said she, too, had been hired for sex by Heuermann, but he was always nice to her.
Commissioner Harrison said he was willing to listen to tips received by Ray because “people don’t always want to use our Crime Stoppers hotline.”
Harrison said the cab driver who spoke of two alleged encounters with Heuermann “had no stake in this,” referring to the criminal case.
But Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney, who is personally prosecuting Heuermann for three murders of women discovered on Ocean Parkway, was taken aback by the press conference and issued the following statement.
“Without providing any advance notice to the prosecutors pursuing this case in court or the Gilgo Beach Homicide Task Force members investigating these murders day in and day out, we watched today’s press conference not knowing what was going to be reported. We will continue to investigate this case through the Grand Jury process and not through press conferences. No private attorneys are or have ever been members or agents of the Task Force.
Any citizen who believes that they have relevant evidence regarding the Gilgo Beach investigation should report it to the investigative agencies that comprise the Task Force. Those agencies are the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office, the Suffolk County Police Department’s Homicide Bureau, Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office, New York State Police, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Any attorneys representing victims or their families, by definition have a conflict of interest and should not be a part of the investigation. Accordingly, private attorneys are not part of the Task Force and potential witnesses should not be reaching out to a private attorney with an interest in the outcome of the case.”
Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney
Categories: Gilgo Beach Killings, Local News, Long Island, News

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So this was 1996, 27 years ago. Heuermann would have been 32 years old then. His wife is the same age. Her daughter is 26 so would not have been born then but her special needs son would have been, as he was only 6 years old in '96.
 
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Two friends visit to check out the food and to review Le Trapeze in 2011.

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This is hilarious but it is rude.


 
Two friends visit to check out the food and to review Le Trapeze in 2011.

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This is hilarious but it is rude.



Uhh... thanks, I'm sick to my stomach now.

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Two friends visit to check out the food and to review Le Trapeze in 2011.

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This is hilarious but it is rude.


:rofl: PLEASE COVER LOWER TORSO AT FOOD BAR. :rofl:
 

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