Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.

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Who is the Long Island Serial Killer?

The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.
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Regina said:
I was stunned that he participated in a pc with that attorney.
Bottomline, I don't trust his judgement.
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I think it will spur anyone who won't come forward to LE though to trust to do so. Alternatively I felt Tierney came across as a stuffy, stern, uppity not the type of guy I'd trust to come forward to if I walked the edge of life or my life wasn't all above board. There is a HUGE disconnect between the system, LE etc. even with the general law abiding public and they NEED to bridge it. Badly. Not just this case, not just this department.

I will take the likes of Harrison and Tierney over the likes of Burke any day.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I think we have far from the facts on Shannon's death or that night. Everything fits better with other scenarios than what they "try" to make everyone believe. I don't know that CB was involved (RH) but that night and what went on and her death are not the story they've been telling. Just my opinion though.
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My opinion is that it's hard for a lot of people to believe that a person would willingly run into a place like that and then die but Shannon wasn't in a right state of mind and sudden death can occur under such circumstances.
 
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Regina said:
I think it was not only unprofessional but insensitive to publicize what they did.
I wonder how Karen's loved ones feel about it.

Edit: My comment is in reference to the attorney and the police commissioner.
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Her father died a few years ago. He had last heard from her on his birthday on Feb 14th 1996, the day she actually disappeared.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Well here is the well regarded Police Commissioner as a guest on a YT channel of a friend, former colleague I believe. It was interesting and worth watching, nothing earth shattering but there was a nugget or few and I read between the lines on a couple of things or have guesses...

One thing is he said they know who RW is, the swinger cop who picked up who his partner alleges was Vergata. Another bit is that; he expects Tierney to come out in the next few weeks with a status on Maureen Brainard Barnes.

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Wow, so I wonder if RW will give a statement too and confirm it was Karen.
 
Regina said:
My opinion is that it's hard for a lot of people to believe that a person would willingly run into a place like that and then die but Shannon wasn't in a right state of mind and sudden death can occur under such circumstances.
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Thing is with Shannon is that she was found naked and her clothes were some distance away from the body, as if they had been disposed of separately.
 
Tresir said:
Would LE normally contact relatives that have been adopted? I've never heard that before.
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I've read that they were adopted by her step-sister but anyway, I don't think the article was clear as to what precisely the sons weren't aware of.
It's rather hard to believe that family wouldn't have been informed of the positive ID result before it was announced publicly and so I wonder if it wasn't just that they weren't aware that there'd be a press conference announcing it publicly...
 
Regina said:
My opinion is that it's hard for a lot of people to believe that a person would willingly run into a place like that and then die but Shannon wasn't in a right state of mind and sudden death can occur under such circumstances.
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Yeah I guess anything is possible but how reasonably possible is another thing. People don't buy that as the MOST reasonable possibility out of many, at least many of us don't. And if you are talking of mental state OR drugs, there is no proof of EITHER other than fear. And IF such could be proven, it then can't be said who gave them to her, what happened, etc. OR that no one was looking for her, chasing her or found her. Even if what you say happened happened, what went on that night caused her fear and panic. I'd like to know how many times Gilbert ever called 911 before that night.

You can have your theory, I can have mine. Yours stems from the claims of the corrupt administration who FOUGHT to even not release the tape and then REFUSED a judge's order to do so if i recall correctly. And then Harrison, who you do not like, DID SO. AND put on a task force on the entire LISK thing and LI thing. Finally someone who is doing something.

I respectfully disagree. Whatever happened to Shannon, it is not answered adequately and should be an unknown and an open case at minimum.
 
Regina said:
I think it was not only unprofessional but insensitive to publicize what they did.
I wonder how Karen's loved ones feel about it.

Edit: My comment is in reference to the attorney and the police commissioner.
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Do you know how Karen' family felt about it? Are you sure they aren't behind them doing anything that may get others to trust to come forward and get answers in her and all the other cases? And which family member are you referring to?

Do you know or imagine how many people with not perfect lives or fear of LE and more in many cases do not come forward for real reasons or EVEN won't call a tip line? Because of the stiff, stale old ways of doing things and the divide that is to this day not bridged very well and THIS is a GOOD move imo. Refreshing in fact. Jmo.
 
Tresir said:
Would LE normally contact relatives that have been adopted? I've never heard that before.
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In Morphew, Iris made a big deal that the girls were not contacted. But BARRY head of family was FIRST. As tight and clingy as he and girls are and they are his daughters are cops expected to track down two young girls whose latest cell phone # they may not even have? In our case there was one contact person who then was to inform the rest of the family. If that doesn't get done that is on family, or on family problems.

So Karen adopted her children? Boy her life must have been so much different at one time. That's sad.
 
Tresir said:
Her father died a few years ago. He had last heard from her on his birthday on Feb 14th 1996, the day she actually disappeared.
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And interestingly the Ray witness puts their swinging trip at CB's house probably on or near Valentine's as it was winter, not Christmas although a tree was still up I believe, and he and her partner always "swung" on holidays. Can't imagine that like being your holiday celebration style but hey to each their own...

Of interest also in her statement was seashells she remembered on display. It will be interesting to see if cops have pictures of such since they allegedly went hard and deep into CB's home.
 
Tresir said:
Wow, so I wonder if RW will give a statement too and confirm it was Karen.
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I actually wonder if he isn't doing the opposite and trying to deny things... I have no reason for that other than just his own actions and that he is or was LE and somehow knew to pick up Karen and then left her there (if it was Karen of course) AND a cop being outed for swinging and possibly having sex with CB isn't something he is likely to want known...I think he is questionable in fact.... Claiming she was fine and that they were playing a game. He TOOK her there to her death. IF IT IS ALL TRUE OF COURSE.
 
Tresir said:
Thing is with Shannon is that she was found naked and her clothes were some distance away from the body, as if they had been disposed of separately.
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Yeah they have tried but they can't make this square peg fit into the round hole but we are to buy it. Uh-huh.

Some will make more excuses for that. See it in so many cases that is the excuse, oh this whatever syndrome from whatever drug has them ditching all their clothes, they wander off and die and some are never found, some are naked and that's the reason. Problem is here there has to be excuse after excuse made for ALL they decided happened as it doesn't WORK. Too many reasons have to be made up to make their conclusion work.
 
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