Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.

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Who is the Long Island Serial Killer?

The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.
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GrandmaBear said:
Well you can guess that my poor and suspicious opinion of her from the start with each b.s. thing only gets stronger. To think in early days I almost felt I had to explain it and I wondered why I disliked her so intensely and questioned my opinion and guilted myself over it. Not any longer.. It is good to know my instincts work pretty well at times. I'm never picking another mate in life again though (although if honest, stuck with it despite instincts telling me otherwise many a time and put them aside).

She FLAT OUT disgusts me.

Cameras don't seem to bother her much now. I guess she just thought photos of her or her home should be paid for.... These TWO come across as totally self indulgent selfish people although it is far MORE than that, far bigger than that.

I suspect the recent appearance at his hearing and visit to jail was "asked" for by Peacock? Really true to life then isn't it.... NOT. She shows up n a Mercredes. Just be the wife of a Serial Killer who you helped "entertain" sex workers with in your home and you TOO people, can be wealthy!

Only in America. :thud:

Although I could see this happening in a few other countries pretty easily as well...
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I love that Peacock is involved. The more she talks, the more she's gonna help the prosecution and possibly hang herself.
 
This isn't polished, he jumped on. Give it 15 minutes. Watch the rest if you want. I am 15 in and I plan to.

This may not sound like new news but it is. The night CB was arrested they took DNA from Asa. Unknown whether by warrant or voluntary. And it's a match! Now CB is sewn in by his own DNA AND HERS to these victims. Good luck to the defense. They yes had the samples they got from the garbage but this is now bona fide collected DNA.

The next thing is IF they did this by warrant. That would be interesting just in that there was enough cause to make Asa give up her DNA etc.

He also feels like something big is coming as we approach the end of the year. He doesn't know it, he is just looking at recent stuff and maneuvering and info dumps and Harrison leaving, Ray's affidavits and some other things. Food for thought.

This guy's channel is fairly new but he IS NY LE. He has had Ray on and Harrison on and more. He knows the people. I am subscribed.

 
They need PROBABLE CAUSE for a warrant. As he says. Are we hearing all about Asa... As he says do we know what all is going on in the background of this case... There almost to me seem to be srategic dumps.

Think about it, they come out with the shocking news of this arrest and at the same time basically exonerate the wife by saying she was away which does not entirely make sense since they can't place her away in ALL of the murders. That has always bothered me that all just assumed and they acted as if this was a certainty... It wasn't from what we were told. Just for some. And her hairs are found, more of them than of CB's.

Most assume or jump to that she was not involved in the way fair minded crime followers are supposed to. But were they seeing what would come...? And did they already have reason for a warrant on her DNA... But we weren't told of course.

So most public are thinking she is innocent and poor her while she goes about making some who believed in her see her in another way and now a documentary etc and millions paid.

Then here comes John Ray with people or at least one who have things to say about her... These are my thoughts now., the last few paragraphs. Based off what I have thought but also on what he is speculating now.

This is HUGE just in the CB way, he is sewn in by both his and his wife's DNA with an actual bona fide collection.

But are they trolling on the Asa thing. On CB they have the cell records and so very much more but she may be harder to tie... So from the start they almost clear her as an innocent and see what comes out and what she does... Again, these are my thoughts now.

From the START though, I could NOT see how they could exonerate her. I COULD see how it could be likely she was not involved as they had some records on a couple that she was out of town. But they came close to actually clearing her without any reason to do so that I could see on all of it. We do not even know the DATES these women died. They well could have been kept. We know the approximate disappearance dates and that is ALL we know or they know imo. They can't know when they died as they didn't find them until long after. ANY of them.

If Asa has a brain cell, and she apparently does as she is good at divorcing, saving assets, and the woe is me act and now millions for a show, she will leave the country with the money.

BUT even if nothing is true about Asa, maybe she gave DNA voluntarily, these solid matches on BOTH now nails CB to the wall pretty darned well. All WANT DNA as the golden evidence, and they HAVE IT. Times dos. Times two. Deux. Zwei.
 
Mel70 said:
I personally have never heard of them at all. And it states one of their duties is "Verifying cause of death".
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Some police forces have them for taking blood samples from DUI arrests. If the DUI refuses a urine sample and insists on a blood sample then in the UK it must be a doctor who takes the sample so they then have to call in a GP doctor. Sometimes that helps the DUI if they have to wait for the on call doc to turn up, as the alcohol level in the blood could fall while they wait. Could go up too, depending on when they had their last drink.

Maybe some large US police forces have a permanent doctor on the staff for that reason too? Eg a lot of DUI arrests daily.
 
This is getting interesting now. I always wondered about the alibi of her being away. How did they know the exact dates these girls disappeared anyway?

Perhaps the big news is he is going to plead guilty because he is missing his butter on his bread. LOL.
 
Tresir said:
He is writing to the Happy Face Killer ..... who told him to confess!!!!!!

Copy of the letter in this link.

www.the-independent.com

‘Happy Face Killer’ says he’s pen pals with Gilgo Beach murders suspect

Keith Jesperson urged Rex Heuermann to confess to his crimes but the suspected killer’s instead complained about jail conditions
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Would you want a serial killer to be shown kindness and love.... If he ends up out and living next door to you. Smh. WHAT??? This coming from the podcaster, whatever his name was, just saw it but already forget. Butter on his bread is that a right?

I'm mean I guess. Just blackhearted. I don't want him to have butter. He allegedly killed, tortured and struck fear into many a victim in their last moments alive. Kindness. Love. Solves it all doesn't it. Not.

A few things don't make sense. Is Jesperson on something?

I think all of these people know exactly what they are doing. Rex. Asa. Ol' Happy Face.

Imo they are making a mockery of brutal murder and looking to collect.

Yeah Rex has to get some things in place first. Assets and $$$ for one.

Out of everyone who has written to him, he chooses to write to another serial killer. Again smh. Why?

Of course he knows his letters, etc. are being read.

He seems to be thanking for what has been done for his family meaning I suppose the Gofundme and contact and support Happy's daughter has provided Asa? Who knows, maybe she helped somehow with Peacock too. I will NOT be watching that show. I will likely read about it from others but I sure am not supporting this bunch.

There are murdered victims here!! Women who I am sure went through sheer terror in their last moments IF this monster didn't even keep them for some time and subject them to worse. I'd say Keith too is trying to be noticed and relevant again. I doubt he has seen the light and if released would kill again. In an INSTANT. I need to stop calling him Happy He's just a Keith.

He too knows this will get attention. And he is back in the news, likely loves it and feels relevant.

CB is not going to confess. I can only see it to have the glory of it as Dennis Rader did and being able to hold "court" alleging to confess for the victims while all he was doing was glorying in it, the attention and all the details.

Funny how both Rader, Jesperson and their daughters came right into this case of a formerly unknown serial killer. Let's not forget the same occurred with Rader in the Idaho 4.

I'd like to tell them all you know what? You were CAUGHT. You are behind bars. You aren't special or smart. And you sure aren't relevant, the victims are. You are pieces of warped excrement, an anomaly and abomination.

Here is something else that had better not happen. Now I'm sure Asa is out for herself as much as anything BUT do not be surprised if all of a sudden CB has a big funded private attorney. Does anyone see anything wrong with all of this? Maybe she IS innocent, you still should not profit over the fact you happened to be the wife of a serial killer. Disgusting. Peacocik is disgusting. The way much that goes on in this world and is allowed to is disgusting.

But then, it sounds like when he gets things in order CB will confess. Yeah right.

The man needs a friend. I'm glad Keith stepped up.

And a hug, some love and kindness will fix CB and change him forever I'm sure.

Of course I am not going on at you but at the bullsh*t.

And it won't be popular but I am very borderline with the daughters of Keith and Dennis. Who have by the way become very silent after trying to get money for Asa and rush right in and claim to know of her innocence. How is that when you don't know her? And perhaps she IS but no one knows that... Where are they in regard to helping the victims and their families.. In any of these men's murders?

I'm going to say it and it won't be popular but they are cashing in on the notoriety of their fathers. They aren't responsible for what daddy did, don't get me wrong but go make yourself a life away from the sh*t your daddy did. Quit coming out and raising money and claiming you know a woman to be innocent you should know no such thing about? We don't know. So how is it you do? And now one SK dad is writing back and forth with another SK dad. This begs the question, do Keith and Dennis correspond... If not, why not and why didn't Keith reach out to him...

I don't understand how the cops said it/say it either and make it "seem" like from the minute this was all announced that Asa was cleared. These women could have been kept and tortured for days, weeks, months. In the home. It isn't like they found them the day after they went missing. Or even the year of. Smh.

I like Kerri. (Rader). I have sympathy for her. I have watched her but if you do you can see things. Not as familiar with Keith's daughter. I'm going to be nice and not say what I see. Imo the best thing they could do is not live in it and make it their life imo. Clearly their dads affected them to no end. I'm certainly no expert in anything. But some things you can just see and most who have watched Rader's daughter I think can. I could explain but again I will be nice. And in all honesty I find it very sad that they make what they were not responsible for their life.

Yeah. rambling. Still with a headache from he77. I have to go. I feel so mean spirited that I am telling myself to make up for it i should send CB some butter...
 
Tresir said:
This is getting interesting now. I always wondered about the alibi of her being away. How did they know the exact dates these girls disappeared anyway?

Perhaps the big news is he is going to plead guilty because he is missing his butter on his bread. LOL.
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Yah if he gets to prison all is better and there is butter right? :thud:

I have thought from the START that they can't know. They only know when the women were last seen, approximate day they went missing. They sure don't know when they were killed, where or how long they were kept or alive. if they do, they sure haven't shared it and I don't see how they can on all for sure.

I think it may be a tactic or maybe I more so hope it is. There is no way they know when these women died from anything we know or can see. From the start, the claim that she was in the "clear" because she was out of town for two of them just didn't convince or show how that exonerates especially when more of her hair than CB's was found.

Of course we don't know she had ANY involvement but there is no way she is clear/cleared and I just don't see how they could know that yet they appeared to exonerate her...
 
Cousin Dupree said:
I'd assume they are theorizing that the women died the day they went missing or the next day. He didn't write Jesperson, Jesperson wrote him.
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Did you read the link and the letter? Why would Jesperson be asking Rex if there is butter in prison or saying he needs to get some things in order first??

I know that is what some shows and podcasters have guessed, that it is just one way letters from Jesperson but not so.

And how could the letter say he is the only person he has responded to?

From the link: Finally, Jesperson says Mr Heuermann responded.

And then the letter follows.

i don't get time to read all links but I did here and you are wrong on this one.
 
And theorizing is a lot different than knowing. They can't conclude the women died the same day any more than they can conclude Asa knew about none of them nor was present for any as far as I can see.
 
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From the link I posted here's the extract with the letter Heuermann wrote back.

"Jesperson wrote several letters to Mr Heuermann, including one dated on 31 August.

Finally, Jesperson says Mr Heuermann responded.

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( The Lighter Side Of Serial Killers Podcast)
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( The Lighter Side Of Serial Killers Podcast)
The suspected killer thanked Jesperson for his advice that he should “confess to avoid giving prosecutors the chance to ‘gloat’ about finding evidence,” according to the letter shared with The Independent."

This bit is from later in the article. She is receiving a million dollars from Peacock.!!!!

" The letter comes just days after NewsNation reported that Mr Heuermann’s family is set to make more than $1m from a documentary in the works.
Mr Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, and their two adult children, Victoria and Christopher, have reportedly sold their life rights for the documentary on NBCUniversal-owned Peacock streaming network, reported the outlet.
His lawyers are also reportedly receiving payments for taking part in the documentary.
The four victims, together known as the “Gilgo Four”, all worked as sex workers and disappeared after going to meet a client.
Their bodies were found in December 2010 within one-quarter mile of each other, bound by belts or tape and some wrapped in burlap – all dumped along Gilgo Beach.
In total, the remains of 11 victims were found along the shores of Long Island in 2010 and 2011, sparking fears of one or more serial killers."

"His DNA was also found on one of the victims, while his wife’s hair was found on three of the four women he is connected to, according to prosecutors."
 
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Tresir said:
Do we know which victims have her hairs on them? Is it one or all 3 or 4 even?
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I have in my head it is two of three but maybe two hairs were on one but also I THOUGHT this was what they were waiting on with the fourth victim but unsure if they were analyzing hair from Rex or from her or something else. Just seems like it was part of the wait, the forensics.

Pretty sure it is not ALL of them and it is not ALL of them she was out of town for either (know that for a fact) that they can prove which is why I say how can they act as though they exonerated Asa. Actually if one listens from the start, they don't really say that but they heavily imply no reason to suspect her and all are stuck on them being transfer hairs etc. I'd say more of what I think the reason for that is but I don't want to help Asa out.
 
Tresir said:
From the link I posted here's the extract with the letter Heuermann wrote back.

Jesperson wrote several letters to Mr Heuermann, including one dated on 31 August.

Finally, Jesperson says Mr Heuermann responded.

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( The Lighter Side Of Serial Killers Podcast)
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( The Lighter Side Of Serial Killers Podcast)
The suspected killer thanked Jesperson for his advice that he should “confess to avoid giving prosecutors the chance to ‘gloat’ about finding evidence,” according to the letter shared with The Independent.
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Emu didn't look at the link before commenting clearly. Most podcasters were speculating it was one way writing from Jesperson but even when we hadn't seen the letter, reports were sayiing otherwise. I mean I guess Jesperson could have forged this but I serously doubt it.

I don't like these "people". I think that's clear. This serial killer stuff of getting together and their kids too is a bit not right for me. I can feel sympathy for the kids but then we have that and THEN dads are corresponding!

I don't think we will see anything that can be used that CB will write. Unless lies in an attempt to help himself/his case.

I find this all really odd... Serial killers writing other serial killers and their daughters connecting and then running to help the wife of the newest one.

It is just odd. If their dads then did not become involved, and write each other, it wouldn't be near as odd but this is odd.

Where is Mel? Don't serial killers compete almost or the new one wants to be smarter and get away with more than all the ones that came before him and are well known?

Am I bad for not caring if CB has butter? I mean I can barely afford it and use it sparingly. Poor him. LOL.
 
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