Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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Her hair nor his was found on all four I am pretty sure.
I just found the answer in that Independent article and posted it. 3 of the 4 victims had her hair on them, one had Rex's DNA.

It disgusts me she is getting paid a million dollars for a documentary and his lawyers are getting money too. It should not be allowed - what about the victims and their families ? Its disgraceful. How are they even allowed to profit from their crime? If he has no money, he should be given a public defender. But we know he owns property in Long Island and South Carolina at the very least. So WTF is going on here? It is sickening.
 
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Significant is that "timing is important" and he is working that out. is this about confessing? I DOUBT IT.

Also interesting is that he claims he has seen no discovery yet. Not that he should have necessarily in August. Arrested just in July.

Another thing to think about, this corresponding was going on months ago and around the time of the GoFundMe by Keith's daughter, etc.

I'm no expert and it won't be popular and I DO feel for them but Kerri for instance sends me one way in one video and another way in another. No expert but maybe their life and career shouldn't be to this day tied to what their dads did and still revolving around that/him. They both also are bringing attention to their dads which so we have always heard SKs love and look two of them are now corresponding. One known serial killer who is old news with CB who is new news.

I'm not minimizing what they have to live with, dealt with and question in their lives or in what they feel they missed, etc.

There was one show that Kerri and what she said really set me wrong. On STS. I feel the host and guests noticed it too and even "lightly" came back at some things she said. I'll leave it at that as these daughters did suffer a SK dad. I know little about Keith's daughter but I have watched an listened to Kerri many a time. and so my comments are not uninformed ones.

I get their homes were ransaicked and their lives turned upside down (again don't know as much about Keith's daughter or that case but I sure know Rader's). I can even see major empathy from them for Asa but they both came right out and said she did not do anything and they CANNOT have known that. Did they know her prior? How naive is that? Naive to their own dads and still imo a bit naive. All very odd and then Asa turns into a sue happy person immediately. Well she already was but still...

THAT woman is not who she'd have anyone believe. Not saying she murdered, don't know. She just isn't who she pretends to be.

All jmo.
 
I just found the answer in that Independent article and posted it. 3 of the 4 victims had her hair on them, one had Rex's DNA.

It disgusts me she is getting paid a million dollars for a documentary and his lawyers are getting money too. It should not be allowed - what about the victims and their families ? Its disgraceful. How are they even allowed to profit from their crime? If he has no money, he should be given a public defender. But we know he owns property in Long Island and South Carolina at the very least. So WTF is going on here? It is sickening.
You got that right. Peacock knows some or many will watch it regardless of how wrong they feel it is and it will well beyond make their money back. That is SICK as well. Not me. And I've watched plenty of Peacock, never had a thing against them until now. Not recently though, haven't watched much TV of any kind in quite some time, even streaming.

It is is not only her attorney, the kids' attorney is getting paid by Peacock too. And I believe the kids. That is less clear. But she is and yes her attorney is. All of it is sooo wrong.

I am going to predict it is going to be they are so devastated, don't know what to believe, are conflicted, etc. We aren't going to get some HUGE revelation about CB from her.

One thing I guess we can assume is any GFM should be dead in the water ever again. That $50k was chump change for what she is after. Even if NOT involved, why should she profit from this? It IS disgraceful. Who was I watching the other night that said they'd refuse and if they agreed at MINIMUM they'd waive the money or give it to the VICTIMS. Agree, agree, agree with what you say. It IS sickening as well!!

I can only guess but in her and the children's positions, Id go to one of the other out of state properties. She also has family and most family would step up in such a situation and take them in. Her kids aren't school aged, she didn't work, etc.

And she has not left him, a filed on paper divorce or not. And you're right why should he have a public defender with these assets?

Do you think she will hoard the money all for gaming, comic books and donuts and fast food and delivery or she will help CB get a private atty? And send him stamps and stationery to write to other serial killers? If one is to believe the one witness of Ray's, Rex swings both ways and we also know of CHILD porn and torture searches. Maybe his big dream is to get together with another SK as one of his fantasies.

I'm not sure some even see how sick this all is.

If there is some small justice in this world, she will lose any aid she is getting when reporting a 1 Mill windfall. She does have to pay taxes and creditors first right/ Yeah, I bet...
 
I went back and read this again and it is odd that Jesperson encourages CB to confess so LE doesn't get one over on him or something in that regard and gloat. And it never shows HIS letters. Odd. Almost sounds like he writes at the behest of LE or officials. Weird.

One always has to wonder who outs something too. Is this due to a FOIA request. Did Jesperson out it? A podcaster who talks with him? LE? CB? Who? And why?
 


Very weak evidence. The sketches don't look like Heurmann to me. I also don't think he ever mentions the height described by the witness'. If they described him as 6'4" or just HUGE, it would make a better case.

Also, where was Rex during all of these killings. Just because his mom lived there, doesn't mean Rex was in town for each one.
 
Very weak evidence. The sketches don't look like Heurmann to me. I also don't think he ever mentions the height described by the witness'. If they described him as 6'4" or just HUGE, it would make a better case.

Also, where was Rex during all of these killings. Just because his mom lived there, doesn't mean Rex was in town for each one.
Well if you look at the main sketch, the one they start out with beginning of show and show throughout many a time, much is dead on. From the top of the nose down. The nose the lips, the cheeks in the side by side are dead on. Eyes match but brows and eyes don't seem exact but sketches aren't and of course no evidence of curls in hair. But I find most of the matching facial parts eery and they are a match.

You would think someone would have mentioned his height, I agree on that one. Is the truck they keep showing supposedly that of the perp?

I think CB has absolutely killed more and likely out of state too.

The other doubtful part is some of these murders don't even seem to be necessarily tied to each other. One female couple camping, an older lady, a man who dressed to go to work when he was not scheduled, just very random various murders.


I could see some of them though and again I think it likely he killed elsewhere. He was abnormally tied to his mom so I'm sure he saw her a lot. And what better time to kill than when traveling and out of home area? I don't doubt he did in Vegas, in SC, in Virginia, etc. But other than where mom lives and the sketch which I again think nose lips and cheeks are uncanny in how exact a match, I don't see any real reason to think these were done by him. Of course he could change his MO and it would be smart to murder in different places and change MO but he burned one or some. No mention of sexual assault did I pick up on with any. Why a 75 year old in the mix? And a man? And his addiction was escorts and sex workers even when he didn't kill. Wouldn't it have been easier for him to connect and find a victim that way? These seem so much more random. BUT it is a small town area and what are the odds and also how easy is it to find workers and craig's list sex workers in a smaller town? It wouldn't be easy where I grew up, even now, but it would be easy to pick up some woman at a bar, etc. for the night.

I'd have to look at where this was and how close to a bigger city and such or if a suburb, etc. And there is highway. Highway 29.

Too much though seems off and most not his type of victim but I'd never say never. In summary I don't lean to these being him either but the sketch does bother me as some again is dead on. AND this man was on the go a lot and was an angry type but could play to be otherwise and that fits. But it would probably fit many a killer.
Most signifcant, as you also said, is size and height is never mentioned as noticeable.

But again he has killed before and elsewhere imo.

I'm more interested in what mom was doing in Virginia and why she moved. I still want to know family details and it is very lacking. How did dad die, did she ever remarry and a ton more. Why does she move around or at least did some? Is there other family here or did she move somewhere with no family nearby? Did she remarry and this was where the hub was from? Did Rex go see her a lot to help out or was there a man in her life? 30 years ago she'd be like our age or his age now or somewhere in that ballpark. Isn't she 90 or so?

He seems to have basically always lived in his childhood home and YET the man is very mobile, travels a lot and has other properties and homes and now traveled to see mom as well.

All in all, I'm not sold on this one. I think the Atlantic City murders are more his style but its arguable those aren't him either. I DO think over the years they will find others he did and find them elsewhere, however, that's if they ever get all these done and looked at and start looking harder at others he may be responsible for. I mean look at Rader, only now are they considering a few others elsewhere and looking at them after all of these years. Or maybe looking at again.

I'm very dissatisfied at the lack of family info and such out there and how no one seems to be able to dig it up. Maybe more is out there but I sure haven't heard it.

What you say about was he even there at that time or can be proven elsewhere, etc. (in VA I mean) doesn't mean much. I think they would be hard put to prove it either way as to his whereabouts this many years later. Few had cell phones, records would be long gone, very little or much less video surveillance/security cams and long gone if there was, etc. They may have some things unknown to us in these VA cases themselves but they are not going to be able to find much this many years later. I mean maybe somehow it can be proved Rex was at work on a certain day like if he signed and dated some City building permit or some such. Things like that.

For me the sketch is the hardest to ignore. All of the rest of it doesn't really fit him BUT he could have had different MOs. But again his thing was sex workers. The one woman seems like his type, petite, but she was going to meet mom for a shopping trip and married, again not his usual way or type. BUT I'd never say never. He liked risk. He did travel. Mom DID live there.

But no one mentioned his size which is significant or if they did this podcaster never touched on it or ignored it as it maybe didn't fit. However, many of the living witnesses only saw him in a vehicle when they refused to pull over and took the next exit or some such. Pounding the steering wheel and shaking his fist when they didn't comply sounds very Rex like. But any killer bent on getting a victim to satisfy his urge probably would have anger if it doesn't pan o

And maybe one or two. I don't think all these cases even fit with each other that he talked of. I don't buy the 75 year old would be Rex and I'm doubtful on the man as well. BUT CB did have a killing need and urge and if out of town, I don't doubt he indulged it or filled it.

I need to stop. I'm talking out loud working it out and yuu can see me back and forth here.

I don't lean towards it. Not even 50/50 BUT mom lived there, he did visit, he is a killer of strangers, and he does look like the sketch so I can see reason to wonder All else though in most cases just doesn't seem like him, not that he couldn't have various MOs and different types of victims but I still don't see it overall. I wouldn't doubt though he may have killed one or two while down there or tried to or while en route but other than what I mention here, the argument is weak and without much basis other than he was there, mom lived there, etc. And the sketch. He failed even to tie these cases together even. And again you're right about height and size, it never seems to be noticed or mentioned.
 
Very weak evidence. The sketches don't look like Heurmann to me. I also don't think he ever mentions the height described by the witness'. If they described him as 6'4" or just HUGE, it would make a better case.

Also, where was Rex during all of these killings. Just because his mom lived there, doesn't mean Rex was in town for each one.
I think it is very likely and posted the same a couple of weeks ago. It cannot be ignored.
 
I think it is very likely and posted the same a couple of weeks ago. It cannot be ignored.
How many were even done on the highway? The guy talked of an older lady in her home, two women at a campsite (where they could not camp near access roads, etc.), a man who had breakfast out, said he was going to work but lied...I don't see many similarities even BETWEEN those cases much less to CB. Either he did not do a good job of talking of all the Hwy 29 ones, how many do authorities put down to the same killer or there aren't many. I personally don't think either he did a great job in tying Rex. The reasons I allow a chance is the sketch, fact mom lives there and fact he did go there. It isn't because these cases seem even to be tied to each other or that he made any great argument, it is those facts. That we k now of he ha never killed an old woman, never killed two at the same time nor a man unless he is responsible for Peaches and Baby and the Asian man. The MO isn't his but; I allow for it varying. Etc.
 
I agree with @GrandmaBear :thud:

I think it's highly unlikely. We need to know his whereabouts when these murders occurred. If he was in NY or somewhere else, well that answers that question.

Also, do they have the Route 29 killer's DNA?

I also believe that he has killed elsewhere. Perhaps a DNA match will show up eventually. I'm surprised one hasn't hit already.
 
I agree with @GrandmaBear :thud:

I think it's highly unlikely. We need to know his whereabouts when these murders occurred. If he was in NY or somewhere else, well that answers that question.

Also, do they have the Route 29 killer's DNA?

I also believe that he has killed elsewhere. Perhaps a DNA match will show up eventually. I'm surprised one hasn't hit already.
Agreeing with ya I'm not a big fan of either.

I do think think this areal or all murders should be ignored there, as to possibly CB but I just didn't feel this podcast made a good case for it with the cases they talked of, etc. Maybe there is more that could help. DNA, anyone who saw the man describe him as talker or more hulking than most, etc.?

I do disagree with you on the sketch. The hair an eyes aren't "perfect", eyes COULD be his but the entire rest of the face is a dead ringer almost in match. Nose, cheeks, lips, all of half of it for sure and even eyes and brows could be.

And where's the details here? I mean maybe they don't have any? Is that his truck and the pics of someone with it, is that supposed to be the killer?

It is significant his mom lived there and that he traveled there and i wouldn't find it hard to believe he took advantage of being harder to catch when out of town, not a local and did kill.

But this failed to make much impact and all now I'd rather say YEAH a perp did this than go in favor of him but not convinced.

He was about hookers and swinging and Craigs List, etc. Did any of them lose their phones and then their families got strange calls from the alleged killer?

I guess he COULD have been like doing Craigslist or something and found some naive 75 year old woman (who did Craigslist really) and wanted to buy her buffet or car or something... And something similar with the man who pretended to be going to work but maybe was really selling something he didn't want wife to know about either so he could get $$$ hiding $$$ from her or to surprise her with a gift he bought with the $$$ or he was meeting a man for sex. I guess the two girls camping COULD have been advertising a good time on CL.

But all he talks of are so different than LI killings, ALL of them. I do believe he could have used different modus operandi in different places, any of SKs could but enough reason here isn't even given to get me on board.

Did you listen to it all? I almost don't think so as you'd be talking of the fact in two cases there were arrests and in one a conviction of more than one guy of which had to be released or were if not falsey convicted then at least not proven as the DNA didn't match. I can't recall offhand, I DID watch it all but the 75 year old I think three young men were arrested, two convicted and one was found not guilty. That's your cup of tea, false convictions HOWEVER, one of them DID confess. I can't recall which case had the other but someone was arrested and then let go before trial or anything. Most of these are so different that like I said they don't even seem to tie together in their own area. At least the ones outlined. How many are there with just Highway 29 and an attempt to get them to pull over? Because the ones he went into detail about weren't those for the most part. And even then not much detail nor reason to believe they were connected.

I do agree it should not be ignored. I do think there is some DNA in a couple podcaster's other ones, not sure on the actual highway and pullover attempts or death on Hwy 29 if there is any. And not sure of what kind of DNA. I think DNA cleared the guys in the one case.

You know if this was not in the very years he was murdering in LI and if it was long before, I'd wonder more as he may have been trying to experiment in finding victims and how to do so. BUT I do believe he is smart enough to change his way in different areas. But again it just doesn't gel for me and again IF the podcaster had stuck to deaths and attempts to get women to pull over and help them and ride with him, I'd perk up more but he didn't. He spent most of the show talking of these others that just don't fit that and in which it isn't even known a pero sounds the same, they are only the same general area.

BUT for me, MOST of the sketch matches. I can't ignore that. And mom did live there. And CB did visit and have freedom in another area, on the way and on the way back.

I expected the video to be all about Highway 29 and it wasn't. That's what is wrong. He tries to put in all these one offs that were probably something else all together and spends most of his show on those. And they are so different as to I can see one not fitting but not all so varied. 75 year old. Not a ONE in LI that relates to LISK even if ALL the others do end up relating. The man who dressed for work, went to breakfast, etc. doesn't fit. And the two women camping don't either. They don't even scream Highway 29 and someone getting someone to pull over, they all don't match the others in their own neck of the woods.

Again I'm not ignoring it but I'm not sold. Maybe the place this guy gets a lot of his stuff from has better coverage on it and reasons. I would wonder about the one I recall truly murdered and looked petite, almost the first one in the show mentioned. It got my intrigue in the begiining but then it lost me on all of the rest or failed to make them seem connected. There WERE women who did not pull over, etc. who described vehicle and man. None though talked of size OR the podcaster doesn't have that info or failed to share it BUT to be fair tellling height or size when behind a wheel and not getting out standing, etc. wouldn't be so easy. You wouldn't be likely a great eyewitness if iyou ended up safe, never pulled over and just played it safe with being unsure if there was any bad intent.

I'm not dismissing it but I am not sold on it all by a long shot. i do think again if he'd stuck to highway and had some better info then it might be a different story for me. More detail about the vehicle for instance OR even his size.

Like I also said first time in this one, were their cell phones missing and someone then called contacts in the phone? Probably not just for the reason that far back most did not have cell phones. But there were phonebooks,and more, Caller ID, etc. Did they get strange or scary calls?

There's just too much unknown.

Like I said I did watch it and I am generally as all know, probably anti suspect in MOST cases but unless reason but if I feel enough exists I am and I admit it but this fails to get me there.

IT SHOULD BE though looked into as should ANY area his relatives lived, he traveled to, he owned property in, etc. THAT I do AGREE with and not dismissed without proof positive it to the other side.

I don't have a BIT of a problem he committed murders or attempted to everywhere he went, traveled to or had opportunity and time and had residences. I think there may be some in every such area or in some areas. And I dont' even doubt he may have with wife and kids along. We don't know it is fact but from what Asa looks like and her hairs and more and Ray's affidavits, etc. I can even see Asa saying sure Rex, I and kids will stay with grandma and you just take a drive and go DO you. I've got this.

If they keep at it and get beyond at some point the first 3/4 and his history and so forth, AND do not just assume that's it, this case/perp is going to have things coming out for years. I don't mean he will share it, I mean cases, other victims, other places, etc.

\He may well be the traffic driving guy in mom's area, who knows, but again the failure was all these other odd cases. I'd lean to the 75 year old was someone who knew her age and where she lived.

NONE of the cases he talked of seem sexual. Other than the attempts on the highway and the one woman he killed. Or of getting off on them/torture, etc.

The guy too, I guess he could have been gay and meeting someone but wife says no and not a single indication to hint that way PLUS why does it have to be CB?

I will say this @Tresir he may well have done something in this area or at least to one or two or was attempting to get them to pull over if THAT was even him but he should has stuck to that kind of Highway 29 stuff and what he could find rather than add these others that really don't fit imo. TWO of which had arrests and one convictions.

The highway stuff piques my interest, with the women. i expected it to be mostly about that but it wasn't.
 
Victims' relatives are saying what I said about the money his ex is getting from the documentary.



Taylor's cousin, Jasmine Robinson, slammed the alleged news surrounding Heuermann’s wife’s pay from Peacock, according to the Long Island Press.
Robinson posted on X, formerly Twitter, and said: “I haven’t stopped shaking all morning.
“I’m so f**king disgusted to see that RH’s family will become rich off of the suffering of victims and their families.”
Jessica Taylor’s body was discovered by a dog walker on July 26, 2003, on a secluded road in Manorville, New York.The family of Shannan Gilbert has also taken to X to share their anger at the documentary and the supposed $1million check.
Gilbert’s sister Sherre (@ThatGirlRee_24) blasted Peacock and Ellerup in response to a tweet about a petition titled “Justice for Serial Murder Victims of Gilgo.”

The petition is asking the local government to prioritize the investigation into the killings.
Sherre said: “Begging for signatures meanwhile a SK family gets a 1 mil deal to tell their side of the story is exactly what’s wrong with our society!
“Shame on ya’ll and everyone who supports Asa!”
She said: “Disappointed, disgusted, flabbergasted, frustrated are a few words that come to mind right now.
“The way that the media will buy stories to further re-victimize, re-traumatize, and exploit the families & victims of serial killers is evil.”
The U.S. Sun has reached out to Ellerup's lawyer and Peacock for comment.
 
Has anyone heard of the Route 29 stalker? Take a look at the side by side in this article? This was in '96


This was only 49 miles from Palmyra where his mother has lived since '94.

Wiki link


Of the cases that are unsolved 3 are from 1996, 1 case is from 2010 and 1 from 2012. 1 of the '96 cases was a double murder.

These are the details of the unsolved ones-

Alicia Showalter Reynolds

Alicia Showalter Reynolds disappeared on her drive to Charlottesville, Virginia to shop with her mother in 1996. Sources say Reynolds never made it to her destination. Alicia is thought to be the first of many disappearances along U.S. Route 29.[5]
Police claim Alicia's killer must have known the area in which her body was found. Alicia's remains were found in what was said to be the middle of an isolated field that sources claim only a local could have known about in Culpeper County. Neighbors of the area say they only found the remains once they noticed vultures circling the area,[4] however, the police stated she was most likely murdered the day she was abducted.[5] Originally, officials believe Alicia was a victim of Richard Marc Evonitz, a serial killer active during her disappearance.[4] This was never confirmed, and Reynolds' case still remains cold today.

Julianne Williams and Laura "Lollie" Winans

Julianne Williams,[6] 24, and Laura "Lollie" Winans,[7] 26, were found dead at their campsite in Shenandoah National Park in May 1996.[8]

Anne Carolyn McDaniel

20-year-old Anne Carolyn McDaniel was last seen leaving a group home in the town of Orange on September 18, 1996. Her burned remains were found four days later within just 10 miles (16 km) of the location where Alicia Showalter Reynolds's body was found.[8]

Samantha Ann Clarke

There is a possible POI in this case but Samantha has not been found.

See thread

Thread 'SAMANTHA CLARKE: Missing from Orange, VA - 13 Sept 2010 - Age 19' VA - SAMANTHA CLARKE: Missing from Orange, VA - 13 Sept 2010 - Age 19

19-year-old Samantha Clarke was last seen in Orange shortly after midnight on September 13, 2010.[11] On Friday, January 15, 2021, the Town of Orange Police Department reclassified her disappearance as a murder. “Due to new information and advances in investigative and forensic technology, Samantha’s missing person investigation has been reclassified as an active abduction and murder investigation,” according to OPD Chief.[12]

Sage Smith

Sage Smith, also known as Dashad and Unique, was a 19-year-old transgender woman last seen in Charlottesville on November 20, 2012, waiting for a date very close to the location where Alexis Murphy's abandoned car was found in August 2013.[13] Sage Smith's case went cold and remains unsolved. Erik McFadden remains a missing person of interest in the case.[14]
Just bumping my Route 29 post as we are discussing it again.
 
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Victims' relatives are saying what I said about the money his ex is getting from the documentary.



Taylor's cousin, Jasmine Robinson, slammed the alleged news surrounding Heuermann’s wife’s pay from Peacock, according to the Long Island Press.
Robinson posted on X, formerly Twitter, and said: “I haven’t stopped shaking all morning.
“I’m so f**king disgusted to see that RH’s family will become rich off of the suffering of victims and their families.”
Jessica Taylor’s body was discovered by a dog walker on July 26, 2003, on a secluded road in Manorville, New York.The family of Shannan Gilbert has also taken to X to share their anger at the documentary and the supposed $1million check.
Gilbert’s sister Sherre (@ThatGirlRee_24) blasted Peacock and Ellerup in response to a tweet about a petition titled “Justice for Serial Murder Victims of Gilgo.”

The petition is asking the local government to prioritize the investigation into the killings.
Sherre said: “Begging for signatures meanwhile a SK family gets a 1 mil deal to tell their side of the story is exactly what’s wrong with our society!
“Shame on ya’ll and everyone who supports Asa!”
She said: “Disappointed, disgusted, flabbergasted, frustrated are a few words that come to mind right now.
“The way that the media will buy stories to further re-victimize, re-traumatize, and exploit the families & victims of serial killers is evil.”
The U.S. Sun has reached out to Ellerup's lawyer and Peacock for comment.
This is wrong or should be wrong. I will NOT watch it. Does anyone think she really offered some great new info in return for that huge payment? I doubt she even talks of his escort obsession and their swinging (if true of course on the last part). I bet she doesn't provide answers on how Rex's dad died or anything else. She got paid big for likely nothing more than woe is her, following her to court, her struggle with supporting her husband versus wondering about the allegations at best. Maybe some background but picked and carefully chosen but maybe none. She may even be a small part of it all while they fill in all the rest with case info, charges, years of investigation (or NONE hardly), etc. The show may not even mainly feature her. And I bet she maintains edit control as to anything shown re her, etc. And gets this money.

It seems pretty CLEAR they didn't ask the victims' families to come on and offer them a cool mill or more.

He may not be convicted (he will be) and she may not be involved nor have known but you still don't and should not profit from being the wife of a suspected serial killer. And when these two owe the sh8t they do and more, no. Watch, it may well fund his defense next. It sure will hers.

I think emu said let her talk, go Peacock, she may share something that damns CB or herself. I doubt it. It's probably just some clips over what happened to her and the kids, their home, following her to court which it seems she went to as they wanted the footage, etc... That's almost like fake then if she had not planned to prior. It was done for the show.

It's all DISGUSTING. Where by the way is the GFM for the victim's families and do they ask for such? Do they sell out to news channels? Have they even went on YT? Their PRIORITY is justice. Doesn't mean old Happy Face's daughter couldn't have done one for them no? I mean her dad is urging CB to confess and I am SURE that's for the sake of all serial killer victims including his won right? So why not ALSO HELP those victims?

It's all bananas and b.s.
 
I wanted to mention that I looked up his ex wife and part of the reason for the marriage failure was his liking of online escorts. Have found it again and here is a link -

Yeah I'd heard that before I think. I guess it doesn't mean Asa was aware of it either from CB or former wife of course, at the start of the marriage and wow his first and only kid on the way shortly. She may have only found out like any subsequent wife does or even the first of his ways, cheating, likes, etc. over time.

BUT it is possible she knew from the very start and they "swung" together and more. Maybe killed together. Maybe they just had a DEAL from early on in their marriage. She has Mr. Long Island architect with a Long Island home and I could go from there.

Maybe the swiinging was even a way to curb the escorts for himself and an agreement that as long as I am involved or you bring them home here so I know what you are doing and that are not hiding anything from me or let me even be part of your fantasies (murder?) then it's fine honey...

The above are two different scenarios. I can go on with either or another even. Who knows? Too little is KNOWN but in watching her. And him. And in things coming out IF true, well I could take this a few ways.

I think they are both cons. I think they are both cheats as to the systems. I think they are sympatico and understand each other and that this very likely was no surprise to her. Or to him. And it was discussed what to do if it happened... His arrest and charges I mean.

Who knows...

More of his hair than hers after all. It still maddens me and they are lucky they got ANYTHING for how long it took to search adequately for Shannon which resulted in them finding these others. What was there prior on less decomposed bodies?

Yep, I could wander down a lot of trails here. And we really don't know any real history of either of these two or their lives. Yeah sure, some surface stuff. But not a lot of that even.

So Asa had one child when she met Rex. He had none but had been married previously. They had one together almost immediately and early on and that was it. Rex is a known user of sex workers in first marriage and second and even the ones he didn't allegedly kill must protect themselves well against pregnancy I guess or he isn't even looking them up for that act or completing it. Both were allegedly swingers so Asa could have been easily impregnated again too if the participation was in all acts or there must be swinger's rules on condoms and the pill and such too or what? And CB never impregnated anyone in the swinging thing either? Maybe he was all about the men? Maybe the other were the women he just hoped to kill and some got away and he hated women or sex workers? I know this is what kind of subject but think about it, anyone... Maybe she just wanted to land Mr. Manhattan and ensure child support, who KNOWS. We know nothing of her son's dad and does he help or has never been involved?

And I don't like wondering a bit of this or asking it BUT look where they are at and what each is doing. No need to know any of these things from someone just in daily life. BUT both of these two had hairs on the bodies of victims and that DNA is now confirmed from BOTH in the actual taking of it (not a cup or pizza crust, etc.). AND the other behavior actually more so from her from the start. That changes it. Totally. And her hair on more than one and he also has all the cell info and far more on him. So YES one I think needs to look at their years, their times and more. Her also doing these things opens it up to all of it.

I'll even bet a few things about her. Let's start with the food stamps should end that some articles claimed she was on/had to be on during the marriage? Uhm what? So should any medical coverage with a mill in her pocket. It will work that way right? I mean the stupid rules/laws wouldn't allow it to be otherwise would they? It would be really nice and right if she gave the $50K back to the naive GFM givers.

There are a few even bigger things I'd bet but I'm not going to voice them as we can never know and likely never will now but I sure hope this helps her now get the care and help she needs. I will leave that at that.
 
This is focusing on the half dozen or so victims. Some have possible suspects other than CB. It is a summary I did basically to understand the case.
So similar or the same one that includes the couple of women camping, the 75 year old woman in her home, etc.? I really don't even see much reason to tie those together to one killer in that area.

If there is one that is attempts to get women on the highway only to stop and pull over and those victims without adding these other anomalies and I forgot the man too who went to breakfast and acting as if he was going to work. That is THREE out of you are talking about a half dozen that don't even really fit a Highway 29 thing although I think the elderly lady may have lived along it. So where does this Highway 29 thing even come from? If you take out those three from a half dozen, there isn't much/many. Am I missing something?

I come from a small area. I don't doubt there are ten murders over 15 years at times and sometimes four in a two year period. NONE of them are connected. Is that what they are trying to do here say there can only be one murderer in some smallish town area? Of a woman meeting her mom to shop, of a 75 year old at home, of a man lying about where he was going, of two women from out of state camping away from any access roads per rules.

I guess to put it more clearly. How many victims of attempted traffic pullovers indicating car trouble, etc. were there? I know one or two claim to have had the attempt and did not pull over. How many deaths were there due to this MO?

Because THAT part I could entertain more to be him and start there at least. Even then, I really don't see enough reason yet, of course can't exclude him or any other killer with a connection to the area but just generally.

is there a show you watched that only centered on the traffic attempted things and women? That's what I'm asking. And how many died/how many there were.
 
So similar or the same one that includes the couple of women camping, the 75 year old woman in her home, etc.? I really don't even see much reason to tie those together to one killer in that area.

If there is one that is attempts to get women on the highway only to stop and pull over and those victims without adding these other anomalies and I forgot the man too who went to breakfast and acting as if he was going to work. That is THREE out of you are talking about a half dozen that don't even really fit a Highway 29 thing although I think the elderly lady may have lived along it. So where does this Highway 29 thing even come from? If you take out those three from a half dozen, there isn't much/many. Am I missing something?

I come from a small area. I don't doubt there are ten murders over 15 years at times and sometimes four in a two year period. NONE of them are connected. Is that what they are trying to do here say there can only be one murderer in some smallish town area? Of a woman meeting her mom to shop, of a 75 year old at home, of a man lying about where he was going, of two women from out of state camping away from any access roads per rules.

I guess to put it more clearly. How many victims of attempted traffic pullovers indicating car trouble, etc. were there? I know one or two claim to have had the attempt and did not pull over. How many deaths were there due to this MO?

Because THAT part I could entertain more to be him and start there at least. Even then, I really don't see enough reason yet, of course can't exclude him or any other killer with a connection to the area but just generally.

is there a show you watched that only centered on the traffic attempted things and women? That's what I'm asking. And how many died/how many there were.
No I read the article and then looked at wiki and put them both in my original post. I don't think it included a 75 yo woman. But it includes a transgender man, a bit like the LISK case with the transgender victim.
 
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