Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.

Who is the Long Island Serial Killer?

The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.

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MEMBER'S ONLY DISCUSSION/DOCUMENTS: https://www.crimewatchers.net/threa...other-sensitive-information.3498/#post-226869

 

[Tresir]

This video has just come out. It is putting everything together laying it all out. 57 minutes long. I have watched up to 17 minutes so far and it is just at the point of a connection between Burke and CB. Very interesting and only a third of the way thru so far.

Ok I have watched it all now, he covers Julie Bean too. The cop initials are RW. It also states that CB's father died in a boating accident. Also Burke had a boat too so CB mentioning a boat to Julie Bean's daughter in 2017 is significant.

At the end he has a good timeline so I did 6 screenshots. 75-97, 00-07, 09-10, 11-13, 15-20, 21-23

 

[Kimster]

BABYLON, N.Y. - Suffolk County detectives said they found what appear to be a woman's head, leg and arm on Thursday in the same Long Island park where male human remains were discovered.

More human remains found on Long Island: Woman's head, body parts discovered

Long Island police said they found a woman's head, leg and arm in the same Babylon park where male human remains were found.

www.fox5ny.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

BABYLON, N.Y. - Suffolk County detectives said they found what appear to be a woman's head, leg and arm on Thursday in the same Long Island park where male human remains were discovered.

More human remains found on Long Island: Woman's head, body parts discovered

Long Island police said they found a woman's head, leg and arm in the same Babylon park where male human remains were found.

www.fox5ny.com

I see I am behind in here as well. No surprise.

Say WHAT? I need to go read your link.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Okay. So these are recent remains or so it sounds. Of a male and a female...? SKs sure love this area. Sarcasm.

Or perhaps Asa is operataing without CB... Also a bit of sarcasm...

I think LE should just station a bunch of officers on LI hunkered down every night in black with no lights giving away their wherebouts... When is LI going to be labeled the killing grounds, fields, beach, island....

We have the killing fields isn't it in TX, the highway of tears from is it Alaska to a lot of Canada, we have a desert or two in the west known as dumping grounds, etc., and now there is Lake Mead isn't it....

I hate to say it but I think it is more than tme LI gets a name for the number of dead that have been found there and it just continues...

Intersting as heck though. A man AND a woman? Connected/connections? Sad as heck but interested to find ouit who they were and the possible reasons someone killed both...

 

[Cousin Dupree]

From a month ago:

 

[Tresir]

I guess this will need it's own thread but posting on here for now.

Arrests have apparently been made in the case of the recent body parts found in Babylon woods. The suspects are from Amityville. This is getting pretty gruesome. Their hands had no fingerprints. Seems like no bodies found yet.

Cops make arrests days after body parts found in Long Island park

The body parts, a head, two legs and three tattooed arms, were found in different locations in Southards Pond Park in Babylon, not far from where the Gilgo Beach murders took place.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Police in Long Island have made arrests, days after body parts belonging to a man and woman were found in a park frequented by children, joggers and dogwalkers.
The body parts, a head, two legs and three tattooed arms, were found in different locations in Southards Pond Park in Babylon, not far from where the Gilgo Beach murders took place between 1996 and 2011.
The original gruesome discovery was found by a group of children on Thursday on their way to school.
Multiple arrests were made Tuesday after investigators served a warrant in a home in nearby Amityville, reports Newsday.
The head, legs and one arm belong to a woman, while the other two arms belong to man while officers have also located another piece of the woman's leg.
Det. Lt. Kevin Beyrer of the Suffolk police refused to comment on whether or not authorities believe that the feared MS-13 prison gang, known for dismembering their victims, could behind the discovery.
MS-13 members plagued Long Island for years but have gone quiet in the region since 2017. Beyrer did say that it's thought the body parts had not been exposed to the elements for very long before being found.
The man's arms had tattoos, the woman's did not. Officials are hoping to use the body art to determine his identity.
Suffolk County Executive Ed Romaine described the incident as 'isolated' during a press conference on Monday, reports News12 Long Island.
'We are going to keep you safe and this didn’t really happen at that park – I believe this was an isolated incident where people chose a park to put the bodies, not where it occurred – and I think anyone that is looking at that will tell you that, so it did not occur in the park,' Romaine said.
He added that he felt 'very good' about how the investigation was progressing. It's not clear if other agencies are involved in the search.
One resident, who returned to the park on Saturday morning, Tom Stroppel, told Newsday that he didn't suspect a local was to blame.
'It’s a beautiful place, beautiful neighborhood. Somebody must have came from another town and dumped over here.'
Stroppel explained that he was there on Thursday around the time that the discovery was made.
'It felt weird. When I walked in, there was nobody here, except the people I see every day. And then on the way out, I see cop cars. I said: "Holy cow!."
Beyrer told the media on Friday that one of the teens, a high school student, alerted her father just before 9am, who went to the park, confirmed it was an arm and then called the police.
A subsequent search of the area saw a police dog recover a human leg around a mile way in the same park at 1:30pm, close to an elementary school. A right arm was then found after night fall around 20 feet into a wooded area.
'There’s a mound of leaves. We don’t know what’s going to be under the mound. Once we clear the mound we may find the remainder of the body or we may not,' Beyrer said.
Officials at nearby schools held students inside as the investigation unfolded.
'It is a little disturbing because the school is right here so I was kind of worried,' local parent Salma Lakhaney told ABC New York.
Another local told the station that she no longer walks her dog in the park in question.
'There's definitely a bad vibe right here. Like the last two weeks for sure. I stopped walking here by myself because there's just weirdos,' she said.
'That it is terrible and very scary to hear something like that happen so close to home,' Babylon local Josephine Roche told Newsday.
'I think we are safe. There is a good police presence and I think that it wasn't necessarily related to this area. I told my kids, "Lock the doors, always, in any area.'
The area is also close to where accused killer Rex Heuermann prowled for victims over a 15 years period.

 

[Tresir]

Details of the arrests. They have been charged and released.????...

4 arrested in suspected love triangle body parts case on Long Island

The suspects, three of them from Amityville, all pleaded not guilty in court to concealment of a corpse, tampering with physical evidence and hindering prosecution.

www.nbcnews.com

Four people have been arrested in connection with the body parts found at three locations across Long Island, New York, according to the Suffolk County Police Department.

The four suspects, Steven Brown, Jeffrey Mackey, Amanda Wallace and Alexis Nieves, all pleaded not guilty in court Wednesday to concealment of a corpse, tampering with physical evidence and hindering prosecution.​

They were released with GPS monitors on orders to remain in Suffolk County and report to probation officers weekly.​

Prosecutors told NBC New York the "evidence is very strong" and includes cutting tools, meat cleavers and video surveillance.​

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continued at link​

 

[GrandmaBear]

I guess this will need it's own thread but posting bon here for now.

Arrests have apparently been made in the case of the recent body parts found in Babylon woods. The suspects are from Amityville. This is getting pretty gruesome. Their hands had no fingerprints. Seems like no bodies found yet.

Cops make arrests days after body parts found in Long Island park

The body parts, a head, two legs and three tattooed arms, were found in different locations in Southards Pond Park in Babylon, not far from where the Gilgo Beach murders took place.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Police in Long Island have made arrests, days after body parts belonging to a man and woman were found in a park frequented by children, joggers and dogwalkers.
The body parts, a head, two legs and three tattooed arms, were found in different locations in Southards Pond Park in Babylon, not far from where the Gilgo Beach murders took place between 1996 and 2011.
The original gruesome discovery was found by a group of children on Thursday on their way to school.
Multiple arrests were made Tuesday after investigators served a warrant in a home in nearby Amityville, reports Newsday.
The head, legs and one arm belong to a woman, while the other two arms belong to man while officers have also located another piece of the woman's leg.
Det. Lt. Kevin Beyrer of the Suffolk police refused to comment on whether or not authorities believe that the feared MS-13 prison gang, known for dismembering their victims, could behind the discovery.
MS-13 members plagued Long Island for years but have gone quiet in the region since 2017. Beyrer did say that it's thought the body parts had not been exposed to the elements for very long before being found.
The man's arms had tattoos, the woman's did not. Officials are hoping to use the body art to determine his identity.
Suffolk County Executive Ed Romaine described the incident as 'isolated' during a press conference on Monday, reports News12 Long Island.
'We are going to keep you safe and this didn’t really happen at that park – I believe this was an isolated incident where people chose a park to put the bodies, not where it occurred – and I think anyone that is looking at that will tell you that, so it did not occur in the park,' Romaine said.
He added that he felt 'very good' about how the investigation was progressing. It's not clear if other agencies are involved in the search.
One resident, who returned to the park on Saturday morning, Tom Stroppel, told Newsday that he didn't suspect a local was to blame.
'It’s a beautiful place, beautiful neighborhood. Somebody must have came from another town and dumped over here.'
Stroppel explained that he was there on Thursday around the time that the discovery was made.
'It felt weird. When I walked in, there was nobody here, except the people I see every day. And then on the way out, I see cop cars. I said: "Holy cow!."
Beyrer told the media on Friday that one of the teens, a high school student, alerted her father just before 9am, who went to the park, confirmed it was an arm and then called the police.
A subsequent search of the area saw a police dog recover a human leg around a mile way in the same park at 1:30pm, close to an elementary school. A right arm was then found after night fall around 20 feet into a wooded area.
'There’s a mound of leaves. We don’t know what’s going to be under the mound. Once we clear the mound we may find the remainder of the body or we may not,' Beyrer said.
Officials at nearby schools held students inside as the investigation unfolded.
'It is a little disturbing because the school is right here so I was kind of worried,' local parent Salma Lakhaney told ABC New York.
Another local told the station that she no longer walks her dog in the park in question.
'There's definitely a bad vibe right here. Like the last two weeks for sure. I stopped walking here by myself because there's just weirdos,' she said.
'That it is terrible and very scary to hear something like that happen so close to home,' Babylon local Josephine Roche told Newsday.
'I think we are safe. There is a good police presence and I think that it wasn't necessarily related to this area. I told my kids, "Lock the doors, always, in any area.'
The area is also close to where accused killer Rex Heuermann prowled for victims over a 15 years period.

LE can say what they like and try to reassure the public that it did not happen there, they were just dumped there but you wouldn't get me going to that park ever again much less my children or dog. They also ignore the MS13 question or do not answer. Something this gruesome and them seeing "Amityville" in it I won't even talk of the irony in that.

The day and age is OVER that people can go to parks or jog on trails and so on. Oh you can and where I live you'd likely still be safe but I sure the heck wouldn't go without other adults and forget letting your kids even teens go do such.

Long Island has quite the rep any longer as do some of these departments...

I have to say I have always hated our winters and so on and always have longed to live somewhere in a climate more suited to me but I have learned to appreciate where I am from and both states I live in for SOME reasons. We are thankfully light years behind the sh*t going on in others although I am sure it will get there, thank goodness we are behind some of those. You couldn't pay me enough to go near NY, the west coast, DC and more. Not saying there aren't good people in them or some areas not entirely overcome but they are way more so than here.

Anyhow they can assure the public as much as they like but a fat lot of good it is going to do. Like the one said, bad vibe. Quit walking there alone because of weirdos, etc.

Maybe it is past time they let LE have some balls back and a bit of power instead of cutting them off at the knees or make them find some. I don't mean corrupt balls of course.

 

[Tresir]

LE can say what they like and try to reassure the public that it did not happen there, they were just dumped there but you wouldn't get me going to that park ever again much less my children or dog. They also ignore the MS13 question or do not answer. Something this gruesome and them seeing "Amityville" in it I won't even talk of the irony in that.

The day and age is OVER that people can go to parks or jog on trails and so on. Oh you can and where I live you'd likely still be safe but I sure the heck wouldn't go without other adults and forget letting your kids even teens go do such.

Long Island has quite the rep any longer as do some of these departments...

I have to say I have always hated our winters and so on and always have longed to live somewhere in a climate more suited to me but I have learned to appreciate where I am from and both states I live in for SOME reasons. We are thankfully light years behind the sh*t going on in others although I am sure it will get there, thank goodness we are behind some of those. You couldn't pay me enough to go near NY, the west coast, DC and more. Not saying there aren't good people in them or some areas not entirely overcome but they are way more so than here.

Anyhow they can assure the public as much as they like but a fat lot of good it is going to do. Like the one said, bad vibe. Quit walking there alone because of weirdos, etc.

Maybe it is past time they let LE have some balls back and a bit of power instead of cutting them off at the knees or make them find some. I don't mean corrupt balls of course.

What do you make of them bailing these suspects? Do you think they are not the perps?

 

[Tresir]

This article gives their ages. No spring chickens these and one is described as "homeless". The sets of remains were found in different parks approx 3 and 8 miles apart. Some articles are calling the suspects a love triangle with the fourth person described as homeless.

Amanda Wallace, Steven Brown, Jeffrey Mackey, Alexis Nieves charged

Four suspects were charged Wednesday in connection with the discovery of human body parts strewed around parks on Long Island.Amanda Wallace,

stviet.com

From the link -

Investigators arrested multiple people Tuesday in Amityville in connection with human body parts found in a Babylon Village park last week, law enforcement officials said. Suffolk police also said Tuesday that additional remains were discovered at Bethpage State Park and in a wooded area in West Babylon.

The remains discovered at Bethpage State Park and in West Babylon are believed to belong to the same man and woman whose body parts were found last week at Southards Pond Park in Babylon, Suffolk police said.

The female victim has been identified as a 59-year-old whose name is being withheld pending notification of her next of kin. The male has been tentatively identified as a 53-year-old whose name is also being withheld. Their last known address was in Yonkers, police said, but it is not clear when they last resided there.

“Based on the investigation, this appears to be an isolated incident with no threat to the public,” Suffolk police said in a statement Tuesday afternoon. “The investigation is continuing.”

Human remains were discovered Tuesday in the woods across from a home on Lakeway Drive in West Babylon, about three miles from where the woman’s remains were found in Southards Pond Park. The scene was processed by the Suffolk County Police Homicide Squad and the Suffolk County Medical Examiner, officials said.

Additional remains were found in Bethpage State Park, police said, approximately eight miles away. That scene was processed by New York State Police and the Suffolk medical examiner.

Law enforcement sources said multiple people were arrested early Tuesday after a search warrant was executed at a two-story home on Railroad Avenue in Amityville. The sources said criminal charges were pending and that arraignments had not been scheduled as of Tuesday afternoon.

 

[GrandmaBear]

What do you make of them bailing these suspects? Do you think they are not the perps?

I had not read that post, just the previous one and then got sidetracked. WTH?? They are OUT on monitors?!! Decapitated bodies and talk of meat cleavers and video and more??!!! What did I just say about the system getting some balls back?!!

Okay so they tell people you are safe in this park, they weren't killed here, just placed there by these people who WENT there who are NOW OUT AND FREE? I can't get over how far this world and people in it have lost it, went downhill or just go along with the ridiculous way of things. Sounds to me like there is a judge who needs to go bye bye and step down. UNREAL.

 

[Tresir]

Wife standing by him. Says he couldn't be capable of the crimes.

Estranged wife of Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann says he's not capable of murders: Lawyer

The estranged wife of alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann maintains that he is "not capable of the crimes he is accused of," her attorney said Wednesday.

abcnews.go.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

Wife standing by him. Says he couldn't be capable of the crimes.

Estranged wife of Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann says he's not capable of murders: Lawyer

The estranged wife of alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann maintains that he is "not capable of the crimes he is accused of," her attorney said Wednesday.

abcnews.go.com

Gag. Vomit.

My first thoughts were that I will never believe a word of that woman's mouth and of course she is standing by him, he could include her in it or turn on her and blame her even... Followed by a host of other thought such as I don't believe she thinks him incapable of this at al; that she LIKES the notoriety; that she loves the money this has brought which SHOULD NOT BE HERS NOR HER KIDS, that this is perfect for further following and TV isin't it, the loyal visiting wife. I also though why are you divorcing him at all if you think him innocent but you rushed to do so because you two worked together re the assets to SAVE them and a ton more.

Her NOW HOW LATE mention of feeling for the victims after everyone has said how awful she is for never doing so means NOTHING. She could have always said these things through her lawyer at any point, with no risk to her of any kind. Is she not liking the LACK of attention and needed some... Her lawyer when asked why now said some lame excuse and said thought a good time to reiterate her belief in him but I don't recall that ever quite being said so I'm not sure how it is a reiteration.

The timing is suspect, there's no interest nor need in it except to stir up interest and talk OR to show HIM her loyalty perhaps so he keeps his to her...?

THe woman disgusts me and there are more hairs of hers than his I think.

Even if she is innocent, he has been tied to ANOTHER murder, no one can convince me she doesn't believe him capable or the guy who did it. She knew about his records and hookers and more and if it is to be believed they both were swingers. She knows they were gone for some of these murders just as the cops say. I don't believe her that dumb or gullible for one moment. He is tied by DNA and a ton of cell data and more.

If she were a co defendant, she wouldn't be allowed to visit, too bad because I doubt anything about these visits or just to cheer him up... Yeah, there's a reason for this unnecessary little announcement that I could care less about and most could I imagine other than some self serving purpose of some kind. Another paid documentary or movie about her standing by him and her visits, a good chance she needs HIS loyalty because she did know and have a part in something, etc. I think even as I said, just the fact interest has been lost and she's not the talk of the moment.

My bet is she knew at minimum. I think it for many reasons I won't elaborate and sidetrack into, I just got home after a hard five long days. I am sure I have went into some of them previously anyhow in the thread.

Her hair, his, the daughter's... But she thinks these women weren't in her home or their vehicle.... Uh-huh. They lived right where the scenes were all these years yeah, never crossed her mind with a husband up to the things he was and a ton more. I think if she didn't partake, she condoned and knew and I think they also had a conversation about what each should do if this happened hence her IMMEDIATE filing for divorce, going straight to a certain type of attorney and protecting assets and getting right on PR sh*t. They have a pact imo and I wonder if one will ever break it... Neither needs to at the moment, there's no pressure on her and he so far can count on her... I'll bet she's got his canteen account nice and full.

All jmo THat woman does not sit right with me and never had. In the very beginning for probably weeks even I kept even apologizing for it and not knowing WHY she set me wrong from the start but my instinct wouldn't quit. Then of course there came a point, I no longer felt bad or apologized as every move she made just showed the hints of it from never feeling for the victims, to the PR sh*t her atty did, to visiting him, to signing deals and making money off her HUSBAND'S heinous murders of real VICTIMS, a husband she SUPPORTS and now stated that she does.

I see the pair of them as evil, amoral, thieves (per ins. claims, tax paying and some other things), and cunning. I don't mean cunning in any intention to flatter them for intelligence whatsoever. I think the more cunning of the two may well be the wife.

This long post may even seem as if I am upset over it, I'm not, I just got into the thoughts on seeing it on getting home where I hadnt' thought of it in awhile. It's really a big nothing burger BUT her intent in putting this out right now for no apparent reason, is not for nothing, guaranteed.

The news though has no real effect on me despite my long response, that's just the same old.

Talking of it brings my mind back to the case and things we know or have seen and it worked because then questions will pop into my head after sifting and doing this.

Here's one. So she faithfully visits weekly in person it sounds like, not by Zoom or video or whatever from home... Do they EVER have calls? You know, the recorded kindi? I bet not much and if at all, it is banal stuff.

I wonder if Rex can control himself around her. She's his wife and he hasn't been able to indulge his urges both sexual or murderous for months. I mean I guess they both or at least he per the one story swing both ways but this is county jail and he probably doesn't get to see much action or get some where he's in control of the poor prey.

Not nice I know. However this is a serial killer LONG LOOKED FOR for terrible deeds and this is his wife (or was have they finalized?) with him for many years and who stays true to him and whose hairs also were found with the victims. And who now has made a fortune OFF his crimes and probably funds him with some of it or keeps him in shorts and canteen money. I think just considering the facts, anything I've said here is not too uncalled for nor over the top.

I did see outrage at one point and I'd like to hear from the victims' families and that was when she said she felt for them way TOO LATE. Well how much Asa? Enough to donate every single cent to them? Guaranteed not. And while her kids may NOT be part of anything, they also PROFITED OFF OF DAD'S murders of these women. It is SICK and where are the lawmakers on changing this sh*t?

Before even hearing a word from any family of the victims, I think we can guess what their reaction to her now too late nice words will be. And justifiably so.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Wife standing by him. Says he couldn't be capable of the crimes.

Estranged wife of Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann says he's not capable of murders: Lawyer

The estranged wife of alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann maintains that he is "not capable of the crimes he is accused of," her attorney said Wednesday.

abcnews.go.com

There is a small chance she may have been involved too. It seems like some of her hair was found on the bodies too.

 

[GrandmaBear]

There is a small chance she may have been involved too. It seems like some of her hair was found on the bodies too.

There is a chance she was involved and an even bigger chance she knew or knew at some point.

I want to hear of the swinger, cop, Karen Vergata thing at their house. No one can tell me that if responsible LE they have not investigated this and talked to the cop NAMED by the former "gf" of him, the swingers. Crickets. You are into such and sometimes I do believe in them--cover up??

IF he was chasing this terrified woman around outside naked and she was in fear when the woman and cop left, and Asa was home, no way, no how did Asa not know his sh*t or suspect it at minimum when bodies were found in their area that allegedly probably happened on weekends her and the kids were gone.

There's just a bit too much along with the hairs and the number of years to believe this woman who swung along with him, was clueless. And her very behavior since the day of his arrest...

 

[GrandmaBear]

it doesn't even matter if it was truly Vergata, that being done to anyone down and out, hungry, desperate IF IT WAS AT THEIR HOUSE.

 

[GrandmaBear]

It doesn't indicate murder but it indicates a sick twisted chasing of a desperate woman being taken advantage of... And Asa was home for it and home for however that concluded after the witness and her cop bf left...

 

[GrandmaBear]

One of the sickest things is that Ahhhsa Ellerup (Not Heurmann?) got seven figures of money just for being the WIFE of an alleged SERIAL KILLER and who stands by his side. As did her kids. Who knows who the father of the son is or if ever involved. She was paid and her kids and her atty SEVEN FIGURES for what story? She believes him and stands; by him so I'd have to guess it is a boring story that was paid for. I wouldn't know as I NEVER intend to watch the show that HELPS pay for it which is what they expect to happen, to make that and more.Toi each their own but in this one, I won't have any great opinion of anyone who watches such and helps them pay for it.

What is far sicker though is how many people don't give a sh*t. How many don't care about the soft sentences on molestors released and even now serial killers. Or say a word. When good men do nothing... And women--I was quoting hence men... Or say nothing for that matter.

And don't tell me this man's been wrongly accused.

He's a monster and she is a conniving evil POS. In OF COURSE my opinion.

This woman WANTS attention and $$$ and I in no way have dismissed the thought she knew or was involved.

That's all my opinion formed on my own.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Lol people in chat are also saying she wants to be in the public eye and wants more attention and $$.

Imo both her and her disgusting atty want such, they've not been talked of recently and don't want to become old news.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Let's remember they were married for 27 YEARS. There is only one reason she immediately filed for divorce and yet supports him and sees him. How believable is it she had no clue or worse any part? 27 YEARS of his sh*t. And she has played poor me but then rallied greatly to profit from what at least he did, and perhaps she did or know of as well... And protect their assets and screw the victims' families.

That's my opinion.

Shows like Police Off the Cuff don't generally go there but in this show they do a bit more...

There is as much or more linking Asa to the victims for DNA than CB.

P off the Cuff used to kind of make fun of Johin Ray, that's changed some and I'm glad to see that.

A rare thing imo for POC to say they didn't see why they cleared Asa so fast, no reason to, etc. That's the first I've heard that from them...

It's a good watch. Supposedly too (her suing and whining) the house was a sh*thole and stunk before LE ever tossed it with a search warrant and smelled when they came in.