Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.

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Who is the Long Island Serial Killer?

The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.
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He says he knows people involved in the search and the house was a hellhole before the search and the smell was so bad about all the LE searchers could take was about 15 to 20 minutes tops.

I am going to take this as likely truth. Nothing shows this home was maintained or that the family was nor that CB was any real hub and the family some even average one.

POC also shows what the attorney Macedonia said how many months ago versus HIM orchestrating and getting them a 7 million dollar deal etc. Where back when he was saying....

And now POC must have heard me lol because they are pointing out the 27 YEARS and her really having no clue and in a better neighborhood their house was taken care of like crap, etc, etc., etc. Take a listen...
 
I dont' see much reason to give Asa any attention and press with her out of the blue statements of nothingness that I am sure are self serving and I don't believe for a moment she does not think her hub did this (but perhaps she knew that before the rest of us and more)...

This show is good though, they both are so familiiar with the politics, the years, and the case and LI and more. And a ton s discussed that does not relate to Asa and even the recent body parts case that I gather has turned into a sh*tshow and a political one. They also say what a bit hit to this case Harrison leaving was.

There' a LOT more discussed.

@Tresir I won't point you to just anything but think you'd find this one interesting.

This area is a mess for justice since it is all politics and has been for a long time. There is also talk of who the feds and Suffolk and more fell out back when. They talk of the gang in LI and how long that has went on and just a lot of interesting stuff.

For anyone interested---

 
Hints they say of Jessica Taylor's case maybe heating up. Also rumors that Bitroff (sp?) may be charged with another. I get no feeling the two are related based on what was shared, but are two different things...

They are not impressed since Harrison left with how it is going...
 
Tresir said:
Exactly. She thinks he isn't capable so how did her hair show up on the victims?
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I can't think of any other time a wife's hair has been mentioned in a case, as part of the evidence. She was far away when the bodies were dumped, but that doesn't mean the victims couldn't have been held in captivity for awhile.

The Peacock documentary may be a good thing. She might slip up and give out some evidence.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
I can't think of any other time a wife's hair has been mentioned in a case, as part of the evidence. She was far away when the bodies were dumped, but that doesn't mean the victims couldn't have been held in captivity for awhile.

The Peacock documentary may be a good thing. She might slip up and give out some evidence.
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Yes, she might. And if he didn't do it, then it could be the "person" who helped dismember/wrap the bodies whose hairs were found on the remains. I don't think anyone knows when the bodies were dumped do they? Only when they disappeared. He could have kept them or their bodies in his secret room for days and nobody would know. It was years before the remains were found and then even more years before identification. Jessica wasn't found for 8 years and Karen for 19 years for example. Karen was only just identified last year, I believe.
 
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GrandmaBear said:
He says he knows people involved in the search and the house was a hellhole before the search and the smell was so bad about all the LE searchers could take was about 15 to 20 minutes tops.

I am going to take this as likely truth. Nothing shows this home was maintained or that the family was nor that CB was any real hub and the family some even average one.

POC also shows what the attorney Macedonia said how many months ago versus HIM orchestrating and getting them a 7 million dollar deal etc. Where back when he was saying....

And now POC must have heard me lol because they are pointing out the 27 YEARS and her really having no clue and in a better neighborhood their house was taken care of like crap, etc, etc., etc. Take a listen...
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7 million? I thought it was 1 million? So the lawyer will get at least 10 percent?
 
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Tresir said:
Yes, she might. And if he didn't do it, then it could be the person helped dismember/wrap the bodies whose hairs were found on the remains. I don't think anyone knows when the bodies were dumped do they? Only when they disappeared. He could have kept them or their bodies in his secret room for days and nobody would know. It was years before the remains were found and then even more years before identification. Jessica wasn't found for 8 years and Karen for 19 years for example. Karen was only just identified last year, I believe.
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According to the police presser, she was out of town during the murders. One time being in Iceland, IIRC. How they know that, I don't know. I agree with you. Pinning TOD on the bodies can't be that accurate. JMO.
 
Tresir said:
Yes, she might. And if he didn't do it, then it could be the person helped dismember/wrap the bodies whose hairs were found on the remains. I don't think anyone knows when the bodies were dumped do they? Only when they disappeared. He could have kept them or their bodies in his secret room for days and nobody would know. It was years before the remains were found and then even more years before identification. Jessica wasn't found for 8 years and Karen for 19 years for example. Karen was only just identified last year, I believe.
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But the hairs aren't of another person who helped him, they are hers or do you mean her?

I agree and think its totally logical to think it likely as not that these women were in his home for a time and even killed there. LE seems to ignore that topic and almost act as if the date of disappearance is their date of death and in no way do they know that. I suppose they do it and ignore Asa for the time being until and if evidence shows otherwise including things in the home tested and results are obtained and more.
 
Tresir said:
7 million? I thought it was 1 million? So the lawyer will get at least 10 percent?
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That's been almost a week ago already, that post. If I said that and I seem to recall it, I was quoting Bill. I am trying to recall, It was several million wasn't it when the lawyers were added and the children and her? Did the kids' lawyers get a cut too, can't recall. I know hers did.

I'm not watching any Peacock thing and I don't think she will slip with anything. Oh all can wish and maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm sure hard questions weren't even asked or allowed, I'd almost bet on it. It will be some general history of their "romance" and marriage, maybe their individual pasts a little bit, his being an architect, the kids and blah, blah, blah, oh and about his innocence and her belief in him and all that's been done to them by LE, etc. She has a lawyer for a reason and its so she can't be asked the tough questions. Kind of confusing though since he'sher divorce attorney no...? Does she have a separate criminal defense atty or is he an ALL purpose paid wh__e of an atty? I just hope LE got an interview and question period in with her AND the daughter when surprised by his arrest. I wouldn't count on it but maybe IF they were in reaction mode.

I'm seeing a ton of people out there who said they sympathized or gave her the benefit of the doubt at first but have entirely changed their tunes since seeing her actions and behavior. Glad to see it, she seems to have become almost universally disliked BASED on her OWN actions (money hunting where any $$$ for any sow should be to victim families) or lack of them (sympathy for victims). and a ton of other examples.

She set me wrong right from the start and I recall trying to explain it and to this day I can't entirely explain it. It was just this deep dislike that I coudln't entirely put my finger on, some instinct, I don't know. I don't think I've ever experienced anything quite like it. I could not shake it and it was not minor. I even questioned and doubted myself and felt bad as I couldn't figure out all of the reasons for it. There were some things of course, minor at the start, but not enough right off to do such. In a weird way, I almost feel she was prepared for this day and had her act down pat... I don't know. I still can't explain it all nor understand it all myself. And back then we did not know Ray's stories and a whole lot more., she hadn't said she supported him, she hadn't done a lot of things yet... Part of it I know was her self pity and woe is me sh*t. It was more than that though. I'lll quit as I will likely never know why the gut just kicked in on her and kicked in hard.

Her recent little statement for no obvious reason through her attorney definitely has some purpose and it sure isn't because she sympathizes with the victims or thinks her hub didn't do this and that's why she is supporting him. It's the story that is needed for I' m sure further money or to finish the deal. It probably isn't Peacock's preference but it was the only story they could get from her she's not going to incriminate him or her. So she had to sell them on the poor misguided supportive wife who doesn't judge her husband sot hey have something to sell and follow with her visits and court appearances.

If one thinks about it, this to me almost points to a possibility of her guilt... She only has one story to sell because she doesn't DARE incriminate self or NOT support him as he could turn on her if she is involved and leaves him high and dry. No one would judge a woman who supported LE and the criminal process and turned on a husband she found out was a SK and escort seeking hub etc. for years. So she COULD go that route and do the right thing and help LE and that action would be widely supported by the public totally but she CAN'T.

And yeah, I think we've all said in one way or another that she isn't STUPID to the point she doesn't know for BOTH their haris to be on these women means if it wasn't her then yes it was REX or from their home, etc. ON weekends with some where she was conveniently out of town. Is anyone THAT DUMB? And she's not dumb. She has played every thing that I never fell for but vultures that want money like her attorney and Peacock she has played perfectly and it has worked for her. Well money has but being well liked hasn't but then she doesn't seem the type who probably cared if she had friends anyhow. I could add something pretty mean to that about what she did care about and what she obviously did not care about, but I'll stop there. They arent' that out there or mean but no point really.

Yeah in thinking this out as I responded a bit, she doesn' DARE turn on CB. Actually they could well be CB1 and 2 her poor is me, woe is me has only stopped once the money rolled in. And who knows that it has stopped, she is putting on what she must for her deal of course.

That's as far as I need to go think about this one tonight as i'm starting to because I had no plan to do so and things are starting to come, and to turn with thoughts and I didn't plan on such lol.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
According to the police presser, she was out of town during the murders. One time being in Iceland, IIRC. How they know that, I don't know. I agree with you. Pinning TOD on the bodies can't be that accurate. JMO.
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Phone records. They got hers. And she was not known to be out of town for ALL these murders, they could only go back so far. I recall that much.

I agree in that I don't think they can pin any time of death on these bodies and maybe even year OTHER than knowing the date they likely were last seen/went missing. That's all they are going by. They have no way as far as any of us can see of knowing date of death. Heck they could have been kept for six months or four days, alive or dead. I'm not blaming LE at this point, they are going with what they CAN prove thus far. And the case against CB is very strong. Extremely so.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I dont' see much reason to give Asa any attention and press with her out of the blue statements of nothingness that I am sure are self serving and I don't believe for a moment she does not think her hub did this (but perhaps she knew that before the rest of us and more)...

This show is good though, they both are so familiiar with the politics, the years, and the case and LI and more. And a ton s discussed that does not relate to Asa and even the recent body parts case that I gather has turned into a sh*tshow and a political one. They also say what a bit hit to this case Harrison leaving was.

There' a LOT more discussed.

@Tresir I won't point you to just anything but think you'd find this one interesting.

This area is a mess for justice since it is all politics and has been for a long time. There is also talk of who the feds and Suffolk and more fell out back when. They talk of the gang in LI and how long that has went on and just a lot of interesting stuff.

For anyone interested---

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It is very interesting and sounds a bit like it was gang/mob ruled and still is partly. I saw about up to the point where they started talking about the recent case and then fell asleep.
 
GrandmaBear said:
But the hairs aren't of another person who helped him, they are hers or do you mean her?

I agree and think its totally logical to think it likely as not that these women were in his home for a time and even killed there. LE seems to ignore that topic and almost act as if the date of disappearance is their date of death and in no way do they know that. I suppose they do it and ignore Asa for the time being until and if evidence shows otherwise including things in the home tested and results are obtained and more.
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Yes I meant her hairs are on the bodies and she is saying he didnt do it so that leaves only her.

Also, how does she know exactly when they were abducted and killed and disposed off to be able to give herself an alibi, or even remember that far back.
 
Tresir said:
It is very interesting and sounds a bit like it was gang/mob ruled and still is partly. I saw about up to the point where they started talking about the recent case and then fell asleep.
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yeah they know the decades, the problems, the poltics, the issues, the players, the gang thing, the reason they don't work with the feds and more inside and out.
 
Tresir said:
Yes I meant her hairs are on the bodies and she is saying he didnt do it so that leaves only her.

Also, how does she know exactly when they were abducted and killed and disposed off to be able to give herself an alibi, or even remember that far back.
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I entirely agree, and they are good points.

She may want to be careful not so much that she will say anything in the Peacock thing but yes, if he didn't do it, and she says o, the other hairs are HERS. Think about this too, the ONLY thing that remained after all that time, no other DNA, remains that much could be found from, etc., JUST HAIRS survived it all and I'd say that says a lot...

No one knows at least when they were killed, abduction perhaps between his phone stuff and the date some are known to have last been heard of it probably more solid.

It never dawned on me until last night like I said that she probably doesn't DARE leave him high and dry as she is the alternate perp or a complicit perp. However as you point out, to call him innocent, leave her as the other hair source! Lol.

If you finish Gialcone's show, I am worried though about the case/s as with Harrison gone and new people in place, things seem to have returned to the decades long of problems. They do give Tierney some credit BUT have a lot more to say about it all.
 
I'd doubt it. And the hope doesn't make up for them paying the wife and family of a serial killer, wife's hairs who were found on some, millions of dollars. You agree on the hairs but endorse the Peacock thing.

She is going to be Ms. abiding and loyal wife who was blindsided.

And the fact that that money is helping him even if it is getting him real butter somehow (as he said to Happy Face) is DISGUSTING.

No pics these days. I'm surprised they aren't showing hi wasting away and so skinny like RA. I kind of doubt he is... Pizza leave, the crust, Twinkies yes wife, you don't want me implicating you...

Not at you believe it or not but there's little one can do but I can refuse to watch Peacock. And any smart politician (if there is one) can go to close that such could happen. EVER.
 
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